Poll
Question:
Will Zelda U ever actually come to Wii U?
Option 1: Yes, exclusively
votes: 1
Option 2: Yes, but it will be a watered-down port of the superior NX version
votes: 5
Option 3: No, it will be an NX exclusive
votes: 4
Option 4: It will never see the light of day on any platform
votes: 0
in a desperate attempt to distract from the painfully conspicuous absence of the highly anticipated zelda u, new rumours suggest that japanese gaming midget nintendo is scrambling to placate its ever-increasingly restless (and ever-increasingly regretful) fans with yet another tired, low-effort zelda """remake""", this time of 2006 gamecube/wii title twilight princess:
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/zelda-twilight-princess-hd-rumored-remaster-wii-u-hinted-eshop-listing-481792
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/654088615165755393?s=09
experts have taken this move as a tacit admission of a complete failure to deliver on nintendo's part, a woefully inadequate apology for the criminally deceitful tactics the company continues to use as an excuse to silently shift the development of zelda u from the ailing wii u over to its recently announced nx platform
stay tuned for more details
The Wii U is best forgotten about, Nintendo would be wise to admit this. That's not to say that Zelda NX will be all that good anyway with Nintendon't's lacklustre titles as of late
It seems odd to me that this wouldn't have already been announced months ago, like how Wind Waker HD was present at an E3 almost half a year before it released. I kinda get the impression this will be rushed out in reaction to Star Fox Zero's delay and the realization that Wii U has literally no games (Amiibo festival and the ultra-niche Xenoblade notwithstanding) releasing this holiday season. After all, TPHD is much easier/faster/cheaper to push out than a fully new game, but the main Zelda series is so popular that it's bound to sell better than most of Nintendo's fully new games.
But I hope this doesn't seem rushed. I'd actually enjoy getting a legitimate remake of Twilight Princess with new features, retouched details, remastered music, improved models+textures, a non-mirrored world, no game-breaking/save-killing bugs, and decent lighting/effects (please no more bloom).
I guess there's not quite any confirmation this is coming out by the end of 2015, but given the nature of the leak and the state of the Wii U, I'd be surprised if it isn't.
Nintendo's putting off their next Nintendo Direct for way too long. They really need to have one this month, announcing TPHD alongside stuff like mobile games, amiibo details, AC:AmiiboFestival details, the new ClubNintendo successor rewards program, Xenoblade localization videos, Star Fox, and more.
I'll accept TP hd port but not a no new Zelda
skyward sword plz 5thgrade;
I assume why it's TP is because that one already has a layout for a regular controller ifeelbetter;
Quote from: David on October 14, 2015, 11:58:08 AM
I assume why it's TP is because that one already has a layout for a regular controller ifeelbetter;
besides, skyward sword is already playable on wii u
but an actual wii copy isn't affordable gonk;
Quote from: Jojo on October 14, 2015, 12:11:47 PM
Quote from: David on October 14, 2015, 11:58:08 AM
I assume why it's TP is because that one already has a layout for a regular controller ifeelbetter;
besides, skyward sword is already playable on wii u
wouldn't that hold true for tp then too befuddlement
Also tec the real word you should have chosen is Remaster
Because it's not a remake.
Quote from: David on October 14, 2015, 03:38:32 PM
Quote from: Jojo on October 14, 2015, 12:11:47 PM
Quote from: David on October 14, 2015, 11:58:08 AM
I assume why it's TP is because that one already has a layout for a regular controller ifeelbetter;
besides, skyward sword is already playable on wii u
wouldn't that hold true for tp then too befuddlement
yes. which is kinda my point
Quote from: Thyme on October 14, 2015, 03:03:24 PM
but an actual wii copy isn't affordable gonk;
really? I know it's still probably $50 right? It's not UNafforable...
just still full price.
OR, did it rise in price for some reason?
Quote from: Jojo on October 14, 2015, 04:15:06 PM
Quote from: David on October 14, 2015, 03:38:32 PM
Quote from: Jojo on October 14, 2015, 12:11:47 PM
Quote from: David on October 14, 2015, 11:58:08 AM
I assume why it's TP is because that one already has a layout for a regular controller ifeelbetter;
besides, skyward sword is already playable on wii u
wouldn't that hold true for tp then too befuddlement
yes. which is kinda my pointQuote from: Thyme on October 14, 2015, 03:03:24 PM
but an actual wii copy isn't affordable gonk;
really? I know it's still probably $50 right? It's not UNafforable...
just still full price.
OR, did it rise in price for some reason?
in canada $50 us is roughly $250
on amazon.ca it was $65 last i saw
which is low compared to how much it was a few months ago ($80 wtf)
and which is high compared to what it should be tbh
Quote from: bluaki on October 13, 2015, 09:08:22 PM
It seems odd to me that this wouldn't have already been announced months ago, like how Wind Waker HD was present at an E3 almost half a year before it released. I kinda get the impression this will be rushed out in reaction to Star Fox Zero's delay and the realization that Wii U has literally no games (Amiibo festival and the ultra-niche Xenoblade notwithstanding) releasing this holiday season. After all, TPHD is much easier/faster/cheaper to push out than a fully new game, but the main Zelda series is so popular that it's bound to sell better than most of Nintendo's fully new games.
But I hope this doesn't seem rushed. I'd actually enjoy getting a legitimate remake of Twilight Princess with new features, retouched details, remastered music, improved models+textures, a non-mirrored world, no game-breaking/save-killing bugs, and decent lighting/effects (please no more bloom).
I guess there's not quite any confirmation this is coming out by the end of 2015, but given the nature of the leak and the state of the Wii U, I'd be surprised if it isn't.
Nintendo's putting off their next Nintendo Direct for way too long. They really need to have one this month, announcing TPHD alongside stuff like mobile games, amiibo details, AC:AmiiboFestival details, the new ClubNintendo successor rewards program, Xenoblade localization videos, Star Fox, and more.
wasnt their last direct after summer 2014 was in nov 2014? or
Quote from: the MIB the on October 14, 2015, 05:04:48 PM
wasnt their last direct after summer 2014 was in nov 2014? or
August 2014: Hyrule Warriors
September 2014: Bayonetta
October 2014: SSBU
November 2014: General Nintendo Direct
January 2015: General Nintendo Direct
April 2015 (early): General Nintendo Direct
April 2015 (late): Xenoblade
May 2015: Splatoon
June 2015: E3
an HD port of the GameCube version without all the fucking bloom might be nice if it's cheap enough
Quote from: bluaki on October 13, 2015, 09:08:22 PM
But I hope this doesn't seem rushed. I'd actually enjoy getting a legitimate remake of Twilight Princess with new features, retouched details, remastered music, improved models+textures, a non-mirrored world, no game-breaking/save-killing bugs, and decent lighting/effects (please no more bloom).
i think this would be wonderful
i would so love to see a truly remastered tp, perfected with refined gameplay, greatly improved (deuglified) graphics and audio, meaningful new content and quality-of-life enhancements and a link that's actually left-handed as was intended
but unfortunately with nintendo it's absolutely necessary to keep one's expectations as low as humanly possible, especially with recent """remakes""" which tend to have the bare minimum amount of effort and a few basic, obvious gameplay bandaids put into them
Quote from: bluaki on October 13, 2015, 09:08:22 PM
I guess there's not quite any confirmation this is coming out by the end of 2015, but given the nature of the leak and the state of the Wii U, I'd be surprised if it isn't.
and especially if it actually is due to come out by the end of this year, i most certainly would not expect anything other than an upscaled tp with a few minor tweaks but which remains 99.9% identical to the original
even if it's scheduled for 2016 i'd be very (pleasantly) surprised if it were more than that
i mean they claim the 3ds port of mm took them years and yet what exactly does that version of the game have to show for it awdood;
the whole purpose of these hd ports is to be quick, cheap, easy means of keeping fan attention and getting a nice cash injection, nintendo of all companies wouldn't be willing to expend the sort of time/money/effort on a tp rerelease that would be necessary to properly modernize and 'remake' it
http://www.zeldainformer.com/exclusives/twilight-princess-hd-is-the-most-confirmed-game-that-is-unconfirmed-weve-se
potentially did update the graphics too, if those renders end up being for on TP HD
any twilight princess """remaster""" visually inferior to this would be a complete waste of time
[spoiler][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTkCIJGTe_U[/youtube][/spoiler]
what's sad is that there are some zelda """fans""" who legitimately expect it to look like this awdood;
confirmed
complete with tacked-on, extortionistic amiibo™ """features""" and not a single graphical update (or any other attempt to modernize it) aside from the resolution bump !! 5thgrade;
TPHD got a trailer in today's Nintendo Direct
Releasing March 4, 2016
Unsurprisingly, there are no new models; we're still getting the old Gamecube ones.
It's getting an amiibo: Wolf Link
in other Zelda news, "Linkle" is confirmed as a playable character in Hyrule Warriors 3D, as basically a female Link. And Nintendo still insists the next Zelda game is releasing in 2016 for Wii U.
zelda """fans""" are the most unimaginative sacks of toxic waste on the face of the earth
i don't mind the introduction of a female counterpart of link, but "linkle"??? really??? i couldn't come up with a more lazy, uninspired name if i tried
and nintendo of course gives them positive feedback by canonizing such idiocy, just like that inexcusably stupid """timeline""" which yes i'm still extremely bitter about
Quote from: Tectron on November 12, 2015, 03:10:52 PM
zelda """fans""" are the most unimaginative sacks of toxic waste on the face of the earth
i don't mind the introduction of a female counterpart of link, but "linkle"??? really??? i couldn't come up with a more lazy, uninspired name if i tried
and nintendo of course gives them positive feedback by canonizing such idiocy, just like that inexcusably stupid """timeline""" which yes i'm still extremely bitter about
agreed.
it's unfortunate that any new zelda either has to be either:
oot, just straight up oot because it's the best game ever :)-nsider circa 2004
alttp
begrudgingly ww because 'it's okay.... i gues..........' [when in reality it's the best zelda made hands down]
when will the series actually be allowed to evolve? also if they want a female protagonist... why not just make a a game in which zelda is the principal player character?
[spoiler]in before the vomit inducing LOL SHE ACTUALLY BECOMES A MAN WHEN SHE'S SHEIK nonsense pops up[/spoiler]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERICRGbQXH0[/youtube]
looks literally identical to the gamecube version
lmao
Quote from: … on October 13, 2015, 10:45:45 PM
I'll accept TP hd post but not a no new Zelda
i'm going to cackle wildly when tp hd inevitably gets delayed into the holidays, then reintroduced as a dual release for both wii u and nx, mirroring the circumstances of original release exactly lol
Quote from: David on November 12, 2015, 03:21:00 PM
Quote from: Tectron on November 12, 2015, 03:10:52 PM
zelda """fans""" are the most unimaginative sacks of toxic waste on the face of the earth
i don't mind the introduction of a female counterpart of link, but "linkle"??? really??? i couldn't come up with a more lazy, uninspired name if i tried
and nintendo of course gives them positive feedback by canonizing such idiocy, just like that inexcusably stupid """timeline""" which yes i'm still extremely bitter about
agreed.
it's unfortunate that any new zelda either has to be either:
oot, just straight up oot because it's the best game ever :)-nsider circa 2004
alttp
begrudgingly ww because 'it's okay.... i gues..........' [when in reality it's the best zelda made hands down]
when will the series actually be allowed to evolve? also if they want a female protagonist... why not just make a a game in which zelda is the principal player character?
[spoiler]in before the vomit inducing LOL SHE ACTUALLY BECOMES A MAN WHEN SHE'S SHEIK nonsense pops up[/spoiler]
zelda in a starring role? *Cough* zeldas adventure and wand of gamelon... *cough*
Quote from: Jojo on November 12, 2015, 04:13:43 PM
Quote from: David on November 12, 2015, 03:21:00 PM
Quote from: Tectron on November 12, 2015, 03:10:52 PM
zelda """fans""" are the most unimaginative sacks of toxic waste on the face of the earth
i don't mind the introduction of a female counterpart of link, but "linkle"??? really??? i couldn't come up with a more lazy, uninspired name if i tried
and nintendo of course gives them positive feedback by canonizing such idiocy, just like that inexcusably stupid """timeline""" which yes i'm still extremely bitter about
agreed.
it's unfortunate that any new zelda either has to be either:
oot, just straight up oot because it's the best game ever :)-nsider circa 2004
alttp
begrudgingly ww because 'it's okay.... i gues..........' [when in reality it's the best zelda made hands down]
when will the series actually be allowed to evolve? also if they want a female protagonist... why not just make a a game in which zelda is the principal player character?
[spoiler]in before the vomit inducing LOL SHE ACTUALLY BECOMES A MAN WHEN SHE'S SHEIK nonsense pops up[/spoiler]
zelda in a starring role? *Cough* zeldas adventure and wand of gamelon... *cough*
(http://i.imgur.com/jB4UDB9.jpg)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaW_0Z_Y95A[/youtube]
*rips a giant fucking fart on my wii u*
Quote from: Tectron on November 12, 2015, 02:58:09 PM
confirmed
complete with tacked-on, extortionistic amiiboâ,,¢ """features""" and not a single graphical update (or any other attempt to modernize it) aside from the resolution bump !! 5thgrade;
boo
[Spoiler][move](http://i.imgur.com/WVXE7sn.gif)[/move][/Spoiler]
Quote from: Tectron on November 12, 2015, 03:42:25 PM
Quote from: … on October 13, 2015, 10:45:45 PM
I'll accept TP hd port but not a no new Zelda
i'm going to cackle wildly when tp hd inevitably gets delayed into the holidays, then reintroduced as a dual release for both wii u and nx, mirroring the circumstances of original release exactly lol
the sad part being that that's completely plausible
[spoiler=full-res screens](https://i.imgur.com/zIKmB45.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/1GAIyB4.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/KFHZMny.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZlQvysz.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/bRVIowE.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/FSA5dQH.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/oulF1L8.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/ULw8vzK.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/SIobMIl.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/Q3IpT6w.png)[/spoiler]
how disappointing
well, at least we now have irrefutable evidence that the gamecube version is the canon version
As it should be
Quote from: Tectron on November 12, 2015, 06:12:20 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaW_0Z_Y95A[/youtube]
Did they...
reduce the bloom? O_0
Quote from: bluaki on November 12, 2015, 10:51:27 PM
Quote from: Tectron on November 12, 2015, 06:12:20 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaW_0Z_Y95A[/youtube]
Did they... reduce the bloom? O_0
they better have
at first i thought this HD remake looked like ass, but comparing it to the old version it looks delightfully better
i think remake is wayyyy to fucking strong of a word for what this is though. Windwaker was an actual remake while this seems to be updating textures, removing shitty fx they put on to hide how shitty the old textures were, and adding miibo support because its fucking nintendo of course they would
Quote from: C.Mongler on November 13, 2015, 08:36:56 AM
at first i thought this HD remake looked like ass, but comparing it to the old version it looks delightfully better
i think remake is wayyyy to fucking strong of a word for what this is though. Windwaker was an actual remake while this seems to be updating textures, removing shitty fx they put on to hide how shitty the old textures were, and adding miibo support because its fucking nintendo of course they would
personally, I still think remake is too strong a word for the WW HD.
though I do hope that they put in at least that much work for TP HD.
Quote from: Jojo on November 13, 2015, 09:40:01 AM
Quote from: C.Mongler on November 13, 2015, 08:36:56 AM
at first i thought this HD remake looked like ass, but comparing it to the old version it looks delightfully better
i think remake is wayyyy to fucking strong of a word for what this is though. Windwaker was an actual remake while this seems to be updating textures, removing shitty fx they put on to hide how shitty the old textures were, and adding miibo support because its fucking nintendo of course they would
personally, I still think remake is too strong a word for the WW HD.
though I do hope that they put in at least that much work for TP HD.
i mean i guess you're right on that, remake probably is too strong for WW too; i think your latter point was what i was getting at in that i doubt they're gonna revamp the little annoying shit like they did in WW for this release BUT WE'LL SEEEEEEEEE
Quote from: C.Mongler on November 13, 2015, 09:52:44 AM
Quote from: Jojo on November 13, 2015, 09:40:01 AM
Quote from: C.Mongler on November 13, 2015, 08:36:56 AM
at first i thought this HD remake looked like ass, but comparing it to the old version it looks delightfully better
i think remake is wayyyy to fucking strong of a word for what this is though. Windwaker was an actual remake while this seems to be updating textures, removing shitty fx they put on to hide how shitty the old textures were, and adding miibo support because its fucking nintendo of course they would
personally, I still think remake is too strong a word for the WW HD.
though I do hope that they put in at least that much work for TP HD.
i mean i guess you're right on that, remake probably is too strong for WW too; i think your latter point was what i was getting at in that i doubt they're gonna revamp the little annoying shit like they did in WW for this release BUT WE'LL SEEEEEEEEE
I hope they do to, or else this will be NOTHING but a lazy port job for no reason.
yeah it'd be nice but i think nintendo is mostly doing it because they're bleeding money and it's easier than making a new game lol giggle;
Quote from: C.Mongler on November 13, 2015, 10:01:34 AM
yeah it'd be nice but i think nintendo is mostly doing it because they're bleeding money and it's easier than making a new game lol giggle;
true lol
Quote from: C.Mongler on November 13, 2015, 10:01:34 AM
yeah it'd be nice but i think nintendo is mostly doing it because they're bleeding money and it's easier than making a new game lol giggle;
it's also a cheap, easy way to make it look as if they're still supporting the wii u, when in reality they shifted focus to the nx months ago lol
also explains shit like amiibo festival and that lazy underdeveloped mario tennis game
Quote from: bluaki on November 12, 2015, 10:51:27 PM
Quote from: Tectron on November 12, 2015, 06:12:20 PM
[spoiler][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaW_0Z_Y95A[/youtube][/spoiler]
Did they... reduce the bloom? O_0
it does look like they toned it down at least a tad
really this game should have received a complete graphical overhaul but that would be way too much work considering what nintendo's intentions with this release are
for comparison:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSDVY6Q9pfk&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
look at how much more visually striking this free fan mod is than nintendo's own $50 """hd""" port
this, at the very least, is what any modern rerelease of twilight princess should look like, except i guess if you're a company just looking for a low-effort cash grab
(https://i.imgur.com/5gW3BEZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/aZgTloY.jpg)
as much as i like that box art, i hate that it spoils absolutely everything
at the very least, zant should be in ganon's place
i guess it's not enough to steal zant's role in-game but now his place in the artwork too lol awdood;
[spoiler=inevitable piss-gold american version](http://i.imgur.com/ZSjG2EI.jpg)[/spoiler]
also, japanese box for comparison
(http://i.imgur.com/6OQ8aPx.jpg)
box art is bad and yeah it spoils everything lmao
still might be worth playing if only because the original was unplayable due to the smudgies
i love this transition
http://i.imgur.com/r7IWPBd.gifv
it's like they want us to be patently aware of how disappointingly primitive tp """hd""" looks
Why the fuck is Ilia on the cover?
Quote from: Jojo on November 14, 2015, 04:12:11 PM
Why the fuck is Ilia on the cover?
i don't understand either
she's a literally who and is completely out of place among link/zelda/ganon/midna
i feel like they wanted her to be the malon of the game and they pushed her heavily in that first 5 hour chunk of the game that has absolutely no relevance to the story, and then I think she's in maybe one other part of the game later on?
lol what a shame if that was indeed their intention
she's completely irrelevant outside of that extremely boring forgettable three-hour tutorial phase, the player forgets all about her and the other lifeless townsfolk the instant they enter hyrule field
according to nintendo's swedish branch, the wii remote and nunchuck will be compatible with tp """hd"""
http://www.nintendo.se/wiiu/spel/twilighthd
which means presumably that mirror mode will be returning, but this time only as one of two options
Quote from: Tectron on November 25, 2015, 07:46:58 AM
according to nintendo's swedish branch, the wii remote and nunchuck will be compatible with tp """hd"""
http://www.nintendo.se/wiiu/spel/twilighthd
which means presumably that mirror mode will be returning, but this time only as one of two options
[spoiler]with that disgusting ad wrapper, nintendo's sweden site looks like a cheap fan site [/spoiler]
agreed
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-01-14-zelda-twilight-princess-hd-has-a-new-dungeon
Quote- but you'll need the game's Wolf Link Amiibo to access it.
(http://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/999999999.png)
Quote from: Tectron on January 14, 2016, 05:04:24 AM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-01-14-zelda-twilight-princess-hd-has-a-new-dungeon
Quote- but you'll need the game's Wolf Link Amiibo to access it.
(http://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/999999999.png)
unless the amiibo edition becomes the $60 mass produced standard for this game, this can fuck right the hell off lol
$60 is far too much for this game, amiibo included or not
[spoiler]
if anything, the inclusion of that worthless piece of plastic pollution that serves as nothing but a physical key to an artificial digital lock reduces the game's value in my eyes[/spoiler]
Quote from: Tectron on January 14, 2016, 06:46:07 AM
$60 is far too much for this game, amiibo included or not
[spoiler]
if anything, the inclusion of that worthless piece of plastic pollution that serves as nothing but a physical key to an artificial digital lock reduces the game's value in my eyes[/spoiler]
i mean ala yoshi's wolly bullshit with the nomiib version being 50 and the miib version being 60. it's cute that you think it's not worth that price, but we're talking about nintendo here bub lol not exactly the providers of great gaming value
yoshit's woolly world was a brand new game though
this is a nearly 1:1 port of tp with virtually no enhancements beyond the resolution boost, and the only significant new content is locked behind a mcdonald's toy
when the three uncharted games were upscaled and ported to ps4, all three could be had for the same price as this single game awdood;
it's no wonder nintendo's fanbase is now smaller than it's ever been
i mean i dont disagree with your warm-n-fuzzy view of the world but once again, nintendo lol
just dont buy it then like a normal person cmongler;
i know you don't, i'm not arguing so much as i'm lamenting nintendo's ever-increasing anti-consumerism
FUCK CAPITALISM cnotedood;
That moment I realize that they never gave up on their e reader cards scenario
Quote from: … on January 14, 2016, 12:05:19 PM
That moment I realize that they never have up on their e reader cards scenario
(http://i.giphy.com/EldfH1VJdbrwY.gif)
Sorry Tec, I just preordered my amiibo bundle of twilight princess
:( smithicide;
Quote from: Loto on January 15, 2016, 10:39:04 AM
Sorry Tec, I just preordered my amiibo bundle of twilight princess
:( smithicide;
I did the day it was announced. sillydood;
You're Killing Me
and, in the long term, your beloved nintendo akudood;
pretty sure amiibos are what's keeping nintendo afloat at this point lol
Quote from: Tectron on January 15, 2016, 03:44:23 PM
You're Killing Me
and, in the long term, your beloved nintendo akudood;
cmongler;
What's the price on the bundles? Is it over $60?
Quote from: … on January 15, 2016, 04:41:43 PM
What's the price on the bundles? Is it over $60?
it IS $60.
The amiibo bundle is what the first prints of the game are.
Or at least, it's the only version gamestop has available for preorder
Quote from: C.Mongler on January 15, 2016, 04:12:51 PM
pretty sure amiibos are what's keeping nintendo afloat at this point lol
yeah which seems great for them in the short term but lol
http://wiiudaily.com/2015/12/kimishima-on-amiibo-collectors/
amiibo were designed to complement nintendo games
instead, amiibo sales in lieu of actual game sales only further cement nintendo's status as a legacy brand
after the nx proves itself to be a spectacular flop, nintendo will find itself with no choice but to revert to its original status as a mere toy company boyahbby
I think it's about time for a VB2.
Quote from: Tectron on January 15, 2016, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: C.Mongler on January 15, 2016, 04:12:51 PM
pretty sure amiibos are what's keeping nintendo afloat at this point lol
yeah which seems great for them in the short term but lol
http://wiiudaily.com/2015/12/kimishima-on-amiibo-collectors/
amiibo were designed to complement nintendo games
instead, amiibo sales in lieu of actual game sales only further cement nintendo's status as a legacy brand
after the nx proves itself to be a spectacular flop, nintendo will find itself with no choice but to revert to its original status as a mere toy company boyahbby
as long as i can get mario on steam i dont really give a shit happydood;
Quote from: Tectron on January 15, 2016, 03:44:23 PM
You're Killing Me
and, in the long term, your beloved nintendo akudood;
Twilight Princess is one of me least favorite Zelda games too. sillydood;
Wow, a bunch of heretics in this thread
Quote from: … on January 17, 2016, 03:18:24 PM
Wow, a bunch of heretics in this thread
sorry i forgot my roots papa
http://gematsu.com/2016/01/legend-zelda-twilight-princess-hd-trailer-details-amiibo-features
There's a new Twilight Princess HD Amiibo trailer.
The "dungeon" that Wolf Link unlocks really isn't a proper dungeon, but rather a room where you fight waves of enemies as a challenge while in Wolf form.
Other Zelda characters' amiibo have minor effects: refilling your arrows for free (Link), refilling hearts (Zelda/Sheik), or taking double damage (Ganondorf)
Ultimately, I'd say it looks like this remake has less effort and meaningful tweaks put in it than any other Zelda remake so far. OoT3D, MM3D, WWHD, LttP-GBA, and FourSwords-DSi all make more substantial changes.
[spoiler]I'll still buy it[/spoiler]
Quote from: bluaki on January 20, 2016, 07:26:30 PM
http://gematsu.com/2016/01/legend-zelda-twilight-princess-hd-trailer-details-amiibo-features
There's a new Twilight Princess HD Amiibo trailer.
The "dungeon" that Wolf Link unlocks really isn't a proper dungeon, but rather a room where you fight waves of enemies as a challenge while in Wolf form.
Other Zelda characters' amiibo have minor effects: refilling your arrows for free (Link), refilling hearts (Zelda/Sheik), or taking double damage (Ganondorf)
Ultimately, I'd say it looks like this remake has less effort and meaningful tweaks put in it than any other Zelda remake so far. OoT3D, MM3D, WWHD, LttP-GBA, and FourSwords-DSi all make more substantial changes.
[spoiler]I'll still buy it[/spoiler]
I kinda figured that the "dungeon" wouldn't actually be a dungeon.
I even said to myself, "I bet it's just a Cave of Ordeals-style thing."
"When the going gets tough, the tough tap Amiibo."
Really? (http://i.imgur.com/9cyhG1c.gif)
Quote from: bluaki on January 20, 2016, 07:26:30 PM
Other Zelda characters' amiibo have minor effects: refilling your arrows for free (Link), refilling hearts (Zelda/Sheik), or taking double damage (Ganondorf)
glorified microtransactions
just what i've always wanted in a core nintendo experience
Quote from: bluaki on January 20, 2016, 07:26:30 PM
Ultimately, I'd say it looks like this remake has less effort and meaningful tweaks put in it than any other Zelda remake so far. OoT3D, MM3D, WWHD, LttP-GBA, and FourSwords-DSi all make more substantial changes.
this is nintendo's future: lazy filler software terminally infected with amiibo gimmicks
i thought amiibo were designed to complement games, but actually it seems as if it's the other way around
it's like only children own amiibos and they're the one's who would ever find the going getting tough lol
now that this dungeon shit has been unveiled i dont really give a shit anymore but i still probably wont get it cuz TP isnt a very good game lol
i think tp's a fine game but as such it definitely deserves a better rerelease than this
a lazy upscale and some exploitative amiibo gimmicks simply don't do tp justice
save it for the nx or nx2 and make it look like that wii u tech demo :'(
literally every video game publisher has been doing lazy upscales for years tho lol this isn't just nintendo
look at the ps3
look at half the ps4's library
unlike many of the other games being lazily upscaled, tp was hideous from the minute it was launched
this could have been their chance to fix that awdood;
and the games being upscaled for replaystation4/xbollox one were built from the ground up using hd assets to begin with, the graphical discrepancy between them and actual 8th gen games isn't as great and so they simply don't need as much work lol
tp didn't have that luxury, and i guess it never will
also the fact that bad industry practices are widespread doesn't absolve nintendo of guilt for following such trends, but i suppose that doesn't really matter when things like this sell oodles anyway
Quote from: Tectron on January 21, 2016, 07:11:14 AM
unlike many of the other games being lazily upscaled, tp was hideous from the minute it was launched
this could have been their chance to fix that awdood;
and the games being upscaled for replaystation4/xbollox one were built from the ground up using hd assets to begin with, the graphical discrepancy between them and actual 8th gen games isn't as great and so they simply don't need as much work lol
tp didn't have that luxury, and i guess it never will
also the fact that bad industry practices are widespread doesn't absolve nintendo of guilt for following such trends, but i suppose that doesn't really matter when things like this sell oodles anyway
sooooooo you're giving sony a pass for doing lazy horse shit but not nintendo? because that's 100% exactly what you're saying with that statement lmao "up-porting" games that have basically no gains to be made besides being able to be sold to a new install base is the definition of lazy and cash-grabbing lol
like yeah it would be nice if nintendo LITERALLY REMADE twilight princess as it seems like you have some weird expectation for them to do, but i don't think thats a realistic expectation for a game thats not going to sell
that great on a system that already hasn't sold well. honestly the graffix from the latest trailer look pretty spiffy, and if you don't think so you've got some MAJORRRR rose tinted glasses on because the OG Wii release of TP looks like fucking ass now.
tp was already an ugly game the moment it released and it still looks ugly in hd n_n
Quote from: Sakura Kinomoto on January 21, 2016, 12:39:22 PM
tp was already an ugly game the moment it released and it still looks ugly in hd n_n
also tru lol. i just meant like on the scale of AYCHDEE REEMASTURDS, TP HD looks pretty standard. i guess nintendo has embedded fans with higher expectations after WW HD and OoT 3D (and by extension MM 3D) considering both of those were hard remakes, whereas this is just texture, draw distance, and lighting upscaling.
[spoiler]which is what 99% of these 'hd remasters' are anyway. here's to lookin at you DMC collection, MGS collection, Sly collection, Shadow of the Colossus/Ico collection, zone of the enders collection AND MILLIONS MORE[/spoiler]
Quote from: C.Mongler on January 21, 2016, 01:00:41 PM
Quote from: Sakura Kinomoto on January 21, 2016, 12:39:22 PM
tp was already an ugly game the moment it released and it still looks ugly in hd n_n
also tru lol. i just meant like on the scale of AYCHDEE REEMASTURDS, TP HD looks pretty standard. i guess nintendo has embedded fans with higher expectations after WW HD and OoT 3D (and by extension MM 3D) considering both of those were hard remakes, whereas this is just texture, draw distance, and lighting upscaling.
[spoiler]which is what 99% of these 'hd remasters' are anyway. here's to lookin at you DMC collection, MGS collection, Sly collection, Shadow of the Colossus/Ico collection, zone of the enders collection AND MILLIONS MORE[/spoiler]
to give a little credit, most of the ones you listed at least improved framerate.
but it's not like tp needs 60 fps anyway.
you never know though, maybe there WILL be some changes made that just haven't surfaced, though I can't imagine anything like the fast sail in wwHD
Quote from: C.Mongler on January 21, 2016, 07:57:33 AM
Quote from: Tectron on January 21, 2016, 07:11:14 AM
unlike many of the other games being lazily upscaled, tp was hideous from the minute it was launched
this could have been their chance to fix that awdood;
and the games being upscaled for replaystation4/xbollox one were built from the ground up using hd assets to begin with, the graphical discrepancy between them and actual 8th gen games isn't as great and so they simply don't need as much work lol
tp didn't have that luxury, and i guess it never will
also the fact that bad industry practices are widespread doesn't absolve nintendo of guilt for following such trends, but i suppose that doesn't really matter when things like this sell oodles anyway
sooooooo you're giving sony a pass for doing lazy horse shit but not nintendo? because that's 100% exactly what you're saying with that statement lmao "up-porting" games that have basically no gains to be made besides being able to be sold to a new install base is the definition of lazy and cash-grabbing lol
like yeah it would be nice if nintendo LITERALLY REMADE twilight princess as it seems like you have some weird expectation for them to do, but i don't think thats a realistic expectation for a game thats not going to sell that great on a system that already hasn't sold well. honestly the graffix from the latest trailer look pretty spiffy, and if you don't think so you've got some MAJORRRR rose tinted glasses on because the OG Wii release of TP looks like fucking ass now.
not really
i'm saying that relative to uncharted 4 and the like, the ps3 uncharteds still look good (which certainly does make them some of the least necessary rereleases of all time were it not for the fact that backwards compatibility has now been monetized)
whereas tp was an eyesore from day one and the difference between it and zelda u is staggering, demonstrating that there is clearly much room for improvement
i would love for nintendo to take the opportunity to graphically overhaul a game that desperately needs it rather than just make minor touch-ups that are barely perceptible unless we're doing a side-by-side comparison, because what's the point otherwise - the wii version of tp is already playable on wii u
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vTqY2B_feM[/youtube]
but i suppose this rerelease was only ever meant to be a cheap cash grab to fill in yet another highly conspicuous software gap in the wii u's anemic-as-always lineup
additionally, the hd ports on other consoles tend to be priced a lot less offensively than tphd, only series compilations ever have an initial msrp as high as $60 while remasters of single entries tend to be $30-$40 (and even that i feel is overpriced)
I was always fine with the way TP looked. At least aesthetically. Been forever since I've seen it though.
I feel like the clarity in the HD version makes it lose that dream-like dreariness state the originals had.
Not that it helped anyway.
TP always looked like an uninspired NINTENDO x TIM BURTON myspace fanfic. It's understandable to want a darker, more mature Zelda title. I'd be lying if I said I haven't thought about that road. Look at OoT/OoT3D and MM/MM3D. Even in the remakes, it had a darker style while still having its own unique look.
So again, I am getting it for the amiibo and release date for Zelda NX.
Quote from: Tectron on January 21, 2016, 03:41:55 PM
not really
i'm saying that relative to uncharted 4 and the like, the ps3 uncharteds still look good (which certainly does make them some of the least necessary rereleases of all time were it not for the fact that backwards compatibility has now been monetized)
whereas tp was an eyesore from day one and the difference between it and zelda u is staggering, demonstrating that there is clearly much room for improvement
i would love for nintendo to take the opportunity to graphically overhaul a game that desperately needs it rather than just make minor touch-ups that are barely perceptible unless we're doing a side-by-side comparison, because what's the point otherwise - the wii version of tp is already playable on wii u
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vTqY2B_feM[/youtube]
but i suppose this rerelease was only ever meant to be a cheap cash grab to fill in yet another highly conspicuous software gap in the wii u's anemic-as-always lineup
additionally, the hd ports on other consoles tend to be priced a lot less offensively than tphd, only series compilations ever have an initial msrp as high as $60 while remasters of single entries tend to be $30-$40 (and even that i feel is overpriced)
yeah what im getting at is you should be fucking furious about the uncharted and last of us hd remasters because they're fucking way more pointless than the tp one is lmao
also nintendo isn't developing the port homie lol hence why they're not going to devote actual development time on this when they're making a new fucking zelda game at the same time lol
& thanks for the vid, visuals look way better than the orange/red mess that OG TP was lol
[spoiler]game is still shit even if they did actually remake it so there's that too lmao[/spoiler]
they should've taken a cue from their wind waker triforce collecting tweaks (and the much more fun tear collecting in skyward sword) and fixed the awful tear collecting in twilight princess
Quote from: Sakura Kinomoto on January 24, 2016, 01:28:17 PM
they should've taken a cue from their wind waker triforce collecting tweaks (and the much more fun tear collecting in skyward sword) and fixed the awful tear collecting in twilight princess
if recent screenshots are to be trusted, they actually did just that
http://nintendoinquirer.com/blog/2016/01/13/twilight-princess-hd-to-have-fewer-tears-of-light-to-collect/
boyahbby
TOOT TOOT NEW VID
[youtube]pBIo8gTrWl4[/youtube]
i mean obviously its not a full fledged remake of the game, but it looks way damn better than it used to
ILLIA'S LIPS AT 30 SECONDS THO LMFAO
that's basically what TP on Wii looks like when you run it in an emulator with higher resolution
that said, it still looks way better than it did when played on actual Wii hardware
compared to the original, the only visual differences I notice are that textures are higher-resolution (as in they're the same pictures but not downscaled as much, but not enough to be noticeable in most shots) and they changed the Twilight Realm lighting to have what looks like less bloom and less added-blur
it's hard to say they really put much work into improving the visuals, but rather just ported everything over to Wii U and let its better GPU do what it can on the unchanged resources they already had
also the game's cover art has major game spoilers akudood;
i mean you just described an hd remaster in a nutshell yes doodhuh;
Quote from: C.Mongler on January 29, 2016, 10:18:09 AM
i mean you just described an hd remaster in a nutshell yes doodhuh;
it's pretty much all they did with WW.
Yes, WWHD added some things, and made some things better, but do we know for a fact that TPHD won't either?
Quote from: Loto on January 29, 2016, 10:27:26 AM
Quote from: C.Mongler on January 29, 2016, 10:18:09 AM
i mean you just described an hd remaster in a nutshell yes doodhuh;
it's pretty much all they did with WW.
Yes, WWHD added some things, and made some things better, but do we know for a fact that TPHD won't either?
we don't! in fact, there's rumors that they're changing the teardrop sections slightly (http://nintendoeverything.com/zelda-twilight-princess-hd-has-fewer-tears-of-light-to-collect-in-lanayru-province/)(because they fucking sucked)
also, the "spoilers" don't really matter as far as I'm concerned.
Unless you've played the game, you're not gonna have any idea who the chick is in the top-left corner.
As for Ganon being there, well, that's like a Dr. Wily situation there.
I'm aware there are a couple of games that don't have Ganon, but come on, he's the series antagonist.
Quote from: C.Mongler on January 29, 2016, 10:32:44 AM
Quote from: Loto on January 29, 2016, 10:27:26 AM
Quote from: C.Mongler on January 29, 2016, 10:18:09 AM
i mean you just described an hd remaster in a nutshell yes doodhuh;
it's pretty much all they did with WW.
Yes, WWHD added some things, and made some things better, but do we know for a fact that TPHD won't either?
we don't! in fact, there's rumors that they're changing the teardrop sections slightly (http://nintendoeverything.com/zelda-twilight-princess-hd-has-fewer-tears-of-light-to-collect-in-lanayru-province/)(because they fucking sucked)
yeah, from what I hear though, they're only making them shorter. But I suppose we wait to see eh?
I'm sure there will be other little tweaks to make the overall gameplay better though
Quote from: Loto on January 29, 2016, 10:34:16 AM
Quote from: C.Mongler on January 29, 2016, 10:32:44 AM
Quote from: Loto on January 29, 2016, 10:27:26 AM
Quote from: C.Mongler on January 29, 2016, 10:18:09 AM
i mean you just described an hd remaster in a nutshell yes doodhuh;
it's pretty much all they did with WW.
Yes, WWHD added some things, and made some things better, but do we know for a fact that TPHD won't either?
we don't! in fact, there's rumors that they're changing the teardrop sections slightly (http://nintendoeverything.com/zelda-twilight-princess-hd-has-fewer-tears-of-light-to-collect-in-lanayru-province/)(because they fucking sucked)
yeah, from what I hear though, they're only making them shorter. But I suppose we wait to see eh?
I'm sure there will be other little tweaks to make the overall gameplay better though
i mean sans removing or reworking those sections of the game entirely (which would be kind of insane from a development standpoint), shortening them is 100% the best solution.
also this game is nearly a decade old, i dont really think it's a spoiler anymore to imply ganondorf is in it somewhere lol he always is, as u said
Quote from: C.Mongler on January 29, 2016, 10:36:13 AM
Quote from: Loto on January 29, 2016, 10:34:16 AM
Quote from: C.Mongler on January 29, 2016, 10:32:44 AM
Quote from: Loto on January 29, 2016, 10:27:26 AM
Quote from: C.Mongler on January 29, 2016, 10:18:09 AM
i mean you just described an hd remaster in a nutshell yes doodhuh;
it's pretty much all they did with WW.
Yes, WWHD added some things, and made some things better, but do we know for a fact that TPHD won't either?
we don't! in fact, there's rumors that they're changing the teardrop sections slightly (http://nintendoeverything.com/zelda-twilight-princess-hd-has-fewer-tears-of-light-to-collect-in-lanayru-province/)(because they fucking sucked)
yeah, from what I hear though, they're only making them shorter. But I suppose we wait to see eh?
I'm sure there will be other little tweaks to make the overall gameplay better though
i mean sans removing or reworking those sections of the game entirely (which would be kind of insane from a development standpoint), shortening them is 100% the best solution.
also this game is nearly a decade old, i dont really think it's a spoiler anymore to imply ganondorf is in it somewhere lol he always is, as u said
then again, people still complain about spoiling that Aeris dies. That game is nearly 20 years old!
also, yes, I can't really think of any other way to improve the tear thing, unless, like you said, they completely change it.
like in WWHD, all they did to make the triforce collecting better, was shorten it.
(http://i.imgur.com/QqCIInd.png)
LITERALLY THE SAME GAME
Gameplay changes:
- The Wii U GamePad will let you view the game's map and transform into Wolf Link with just a single touch, speeding up the transition.
- There's a new Ghost Lantern item which will glow when Poe Souls are nearby, making this lengthy sidequest easier.
- There are now 12 Tears of Light to collect in each area, down from 16, again making this quicker.
- Rupees will no longer remain in a treasure chest if your wallet is too full to pick them up
- Wallets have been modified to hold more Rupees to accommodate this
- Hero Mode is now available from the start. Link will take double damage and no health-replenishing hearts will appear in the world. Dungeons are also mirrored.
- Dozens of Miiverse stamps have now been hidden in chests around the world.
Hmmm. Sounds like just about as much effort as wwhd....
basic gameplay and quality-of-life bandaids that take an unpaid intern two minutes to program and no other substantial changes, just like wwhd
i guess it's true that if i squint hard enough, i might now think it was released just seven years ago instead of ten
[spoiler]
tp deserves better than this lol awdood;[/spoiler]
lol i was wondering where tec was
[spoiler]it's still a shitty game, this is exactly what it "deserves" lmao; easily the worst 3d zelda[/spoiler]
yeah TP kinda sucked but I'm willing to get it another try, the only thing I'm looking forward to about this version is it shouldn't be as unbearably muddy as the Wii version
also having the game be non-mirrored will be nice
>playing the mirrored version in the first place
It's not like Nintendo made the Gamecube version easily obtainable. :'(
>not starting off with TP Master Quest
yeah so i just got to the twinmold fight in the majora's mask 3dsmake, and i can now confidently say I'm 100% glad that nintendo is not changing TP at all because THEY WOULD TOTALLY JUST FUCK IT UP AND MAKE IT WORSE
spoilers if for some reason you're 20 years late to the majora'as mask party
but yeah what the fuck did they do to the twinmold fight, it used to be one of my favorite fights in 3d zeldas and now its a piece of action game esque horseshit. why are there quick time events now? why is there no indication that you're even doing damage to the son of a bitch. ughhhh i fucking hated playing through that they made it such a frustrating fight that i literally had to google how to complete because YOU WONT FUCKING GET THE 'PRESS A TO CHOKE SLAM" PROMPTS IF YOU ARE GOD DAMN Z TARGETTING. YOU KNOW, THE THING YOU DO CONSTANTLY IN THESE GAMES
Yyyyyeeeeeeaahhh... me and kaz just watched that fight.
It's really fucking stupid.
yeah it's pretty dumb.like there was never anything wrong with that fight to begin with so i don't know why they felt the need to change anything; before it was literally HIT IT UNTIL IT DIES. which was fine, considering most enemies in zelda function that way. they wanted to add more challenge i guess? but it lacks any forethought because this is a game with a huge following and it felt like i had the rug pulled from under me a little bit because i spent the whole fight punching (literally punching, you lose your sword when using the giants mask now for whatever fucking reason now) twinmold like i thought you had to do per usual and he/it would fall to the ground and there was some visual emphasis on his tail, so I would be like OKAY I GUESS I GOTTA HIT THE TAIL. well punching him in the tail has the same hit sound/effect as it does when he's in the air, so it took like 3 cycles for me to think "oh maybe thats not even fucking doing anything", so i tried light arrows because, hey, i got them in the temple, and they seemed to have no more obvious of an effect. on top of that they aded balls which look like they are destructible like the pillars that surround the stage, but they aren't, they are meant for throwing at twinmold which i didnt even figure out until the very last damage cycle
and eventually i just googled it and oh, when he falls to the ground you have to walk over to his head and you'll get a prompt to hug him, IF YOU DONT Z TARGET AT ALL, which does damage. everything else is basically pointless because his damage meter resets if he hits the ground and gets back up.
so anyway i'm sure they'd try to shoehorn bullshit like that into TP if they made the effort to change anything so i'm kind of glad they aren't now lol because holy fuck that left a horrible taste in my mouth for zelda remakes
even doing the fight "right" (flinging him around and slamming him) it still took forever in the video we watched.
in addition, they actually changed EVERY boss fight at least a little bit, aside from the Majora fight
Quote from: Loto on February 08, 2016, 11:29:14 AM
even doing the fight "right" (flinging him around and slamming him) it still took forever in the video we watched.
in addition, they actually changed EVERY boss fight at least a little bit, aside from the Majora fight
yeah it still does, i think it took me like 20 minutes total, and it's annoying because hearts dont spawn very frequently and giant link maneuvers like a dipshit so its really easy to get hit (and does like a quarter of your life if you're a little dude) so even with two faeries it was a struggle.
the other boss fight changes weren't nearly as bad; i only noticed the gyorg changes up until that point, and those weren't really that dumb
Quote from: C.Mongler on February 08, 2016, 11:37:06 AM
Quote from: Loto on February 08, 2016, 11:29:14 AM
even doing the fight "right" (flinging him around and slamming him) it still took forever in the video we watched.
in addition, they actually changed EVERY boss fight at least a little bit, aside from the Majora fight
yeah it still does, i think it took me like 20 minutes total, and it's annoying because hearts dont spawn very frequently and giant link maneuvers like a dipshit so its really easy to get hit (and does like a quarter of your life if you're a little dude) so even with two faeries it was a struggle.
the other boss fight changes weren't nearly as bad; i only noticed the gyorg changes up until that point, and those weren't really that dumb
yeah, the other changes are not bad. but twinmold sure is...
I never got as far as the Twinmold fight in the original Majora's Mask
When I played MM3D, I felt that fight was pretty frustrating. I remember having a lot of trouble with hearts, magic, and the time limit. I think I had the same problem of not seeing the prompt to slam the boss for quite a while and wondering if I was doing something wrong because the fight kept dragging on with no apparent progress, making it by far the hardest boss fight in the game for me.
in the original all you did was use the giants mask at the beginning of the fight (you find it in the dungeon, not in the boss fight) and whack at twinmold with your sword while you're giant and that's it
while it was originally a lackluster fight, now it's just dumb
i mean it wasnt ground breaking or anything dont get me wrong, it just at least made sense; now it's like trying to figure out a puzzle while also not dying in three hits since i spent a shitload of time as tiny lonk cuz i thought i was doing something wrong as big lonk