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Title: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Commander Fuckass on January 12, 2015, 10:37:40 PM
http://www.gamnesia.com/news/gamestop-new-nintendo-3ds-launches-in-north-america-on-february-13#.VLS85Hoo7qA
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on January 13, 2015, 03:09:56 AM
http://www.geek.com/games/there-wont-be-a-3ds-lite-system-is-fully-packed-from-the-start-1309783/
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: don't let's on January 13, 2015, 07:00:15 AM
Awesome
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: The artist formally known on January 13, 2015, 09:52:07 AM
How much longer until Nintendos next handheld? A couple years at the most?
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on January 13, 2015, 12:12:14 PM
Quote from: reefer on January 13, 2015, 09:52:07 AM
How much longer until Nintendos next handheld? A couple years at the most?
next month, assuming this rumor is true
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: The artist formally known on January 13, 2015, 12:44:25 PM
Quote from: Jojo on January 13, 2015, 12:12:14 PM
Quote from: reefer on January 13, 2015, 09:52:07 AM
How much longer until Nintendos next handheld? A couple years at the most?
next month, assuming this rumor is true
lol ok smart ass, what about after that?
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on January 13, 2015, 12:52:59 PM
Quote from: reefer on January 13, 2015, 12:44:25 PM
Quote from: Jojo on January 13, 2015, 12:12:14 PM
Quote from: reefer on January 13, 2015, 09:52:07 AM
How much longer until Nintendos next handheld? A couple years at the most?
next month, assuming this rumor is true
lol ok smart ass, what about after that?
probably what you said. ~2 yrs
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on January 13, 2015, 12:53:51 PM
Quote from: Tectron on January 13, 2015, 03:09:56 AM
http://www.geek.com/games/there-wont-be-a-3ds-lite-system-is-fully-packed-from-the-start-1309783/

when do the rumours about the 3ds's full successor start?  will nintendo be forced to reveal it by the japanese media before e3 again?
Quote from: reefer on January 13, 2015, 09:52:07 AM
How much longer until Nintendos next handheld? A couple years at the most?
lmao a couple of years?  that's some wishful thinking there.  the 3ds is dead officially now.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: The artist formally known on January 13, 2015, 01:07:57 PM
A small step up just seems counter productive, they have a few years before they release another portable console which is ultimately going to be another beefed up 3DS unless some actual bendable displays start making consumer appearances.

The 3DS is fine and dandy, why confuse consumers and waste R&D on a half step up
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: bluaki on January 13, 2015, 01:26:08 PM
There's a Nintendo Direct tomorrow morning, so they'll probably officially announce the N3DS release during that.
And maybe the release date of Majora's Mask 3D.

Also, I expect the next main handheld system from Nintendo will release by the end of 2016. Patterns say that there hasn't been a gap of more than two years between hardware releases ever since the original GBA, I don't expect any other revisions for the 3DS line, and Nintendo has recently slowed down on its releases for 3DS.

Quote from: reefer on January 13, 2015, 01:07:57 PM
A small step up just seems counter productive, they have a few years before they release another portable console which is ultimately going to be another beefed up 3DS unless some actual bendable displays start making consumer appearances.

The 3DS is fine and dandy, why confuse consumers and waste R&D on a half step up
That's what Nintendo always does. It's exactly the same situation as DSi, or maybe also comparable to all the other revisions like DSiXL, GB Micro, GB Pocket, Game Boy Light

The biggest reason I want this one is the form factor. I feel like regular 3DS is too small and 3DSXL is too big, while the new small model is great. Extra inputs, better 3D, faster speeds, and potential exclusives help it too.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on January 13, 2015, 01:34:02 PM
sony releases good designed handheld and only fixes it to make it chaper
nitnedo on the other hand designs junk and then expects you to buy eight revisions until the 'definitive' one comes out, right before the next'gen' comes out
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: The artist formally known on January 13, 2015, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: David on January 13, 2015, 01:34:02 PM
sony releases good designed handheld and only fixes it to make it chaper
nitnedo on the other hand designs junk and then expects you to buy eight revisions until the 'definitive' one comes out, right before the next'gen' comes out
Yeah but Nintendo's handhelds are portable and usually have a huge game catalog that offers games not directly inferior to their console counterpart.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on January 13, 2015, 04:06:52 PM
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/hxLFtl6.jpg)[/spoiler]

some more color options would sure be nice

nintendo must be determined to not ever release a white 3ds console in north america
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Travis on January 13, 2015, 04:15:11 PM
haven't these fuckers updated this thing enough yet? jesus christ
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on January 13, 2015, 04:19:29 PM
three releases in a span of four years just isn't enough

and we still have the """new""" 2ds to look forward to

[spoiler]

nintendo literally releases consoles at a higher rate than activision releases call of duty games[/spoiler]
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on January 13, 2015, 04:28:30 PM
lol poor 2ds
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: bluaki on January 13, 2015, 08:50:19 PM
Quote from: Tectron on January 13, 2015, 04:19:29 PM
nintendo literally releases consoles at a higher rate than activision releases call of duty games
Not quite. In the time since 3DS XL released, there have been 5 call of duty games.

Alternatively, in the time since DSi released, there have been 9 call of duty games (and 6 Nintendo handhelds including N3DS)
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Classic on January 13, 2015, 09:01:39 PM
I can't wait to spend money that I don't have on this.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on January 13, 2015, 09:45:24 PM
Is the majoras mask game n3ds exculsivr
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on January 13, 2015, 09:53:39 PM
no, but it will have as of yet unknown exclusive features
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Hiro on January 13, 2015, 11:36:35 PM
Quote from: Tectron on January 13, 2015, 04:06:52 PM
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/hxLFtl6.jpg)[/spoiler]

some more color options would sure be nice

nintendo must be determined to not ever release a white 3ds console in north america
my animal crossing 3ds disagrees with you, also pink is white on the inside

but yeah I doubt I'll get one of these but both the XL and "small" ones look nice, especially the color buttons and faceplates
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Hiro on January 13, 2015, 11:37:20 PM
Quote from: Tectron on January 13, 2015, 09:53:39 PM
no, but it will have as of yet unknown exclusive features
much like how pokemon black/white had special dsi features that were worthless
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on January 14, 2015, 06:40:02 AM
feb. 13 launch confirmed

but it seems north america will only be getting the xl model, and the only two colors demoed were crimson and black (ugh)

msrp $200, and like in all other regions in which it's been released, it will not include an ac adapter (ugh)
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on January 14, 2015, 06:52:11 AM
scratch that, one more color:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S6ZJZER2Iw[/youtube]

i hate myself
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: bluaki on January 14, 2015, 07:27:23 AM
I'm pretty disappointed that they're only releasing the XL here. America seems to be the only region in the world that isn't getting the small version; I would import it from Europe if not for region lock. I'm not as sure that I want it, but I'll probably still buy it anyway. Out of the four available colors, I'll probably prefer just black. I don't especially like gold (should've been purple) and I also don't like that it's a different color on the inside than outside.

Quote from: Tectron on January 14, 2015, 06:52:11 AM
scratch that, one more color:

i hate myself
There's a fourth one: the MH4U bundle.

Unlike the Majora's Mask one, the MH4U one does include the game, albeit at a higher price ($230 instead of $200)
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Classic on January 14, 2015, 07:37:24 AM
Preordering the MM edition on my way to work.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Commander Fuckass on January 14, 2015, 07:38:29 AM
I love Tec  tears Im glad I made this thread :)
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on January 14, 2015, 07:57:13 AM
put me out of my misery :(
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: don't let's on January 14, 2015, 08:29:07 AM
I want
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on January 14, 2015, 08:47:41 AM
these are the kind of assumptions nintendo makes that makes me grumble grumble...

you didnt think that some people didnt want the XL version?
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Classic on January 14, 2015, 09:32:09 AM
They wanted it paid off in full and I can't afford that.  :(

I just preordered a red one.  :(
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on January 14, 2015, 12:08:25 PM
Quote from: Jojo on January 14, 2015, 08:47:41 AM
these are the kind of assumptions nintendo makes that makes me grumble grumble...

you didnt think that some people didnt want the XL version?
silly, nintendo wants you to buy this one so you have to buy another new 3ds when the smaller one comes out ^_^
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on January 14, 2015, 12:18:47 PM
Quote from: David on January 14, 2015, 12:08:25 PM
Quote from: Jojo on January 14, 2015, 08:47:41 AM
these are the kind of assumptions nintendo makes that makes me grumble grumble...

you didnt think that some people didnt want the XL version?
silly, nintendo wants you to buy this one so you have to buy another new 3ds when the smaller one comes out ^_^
yeah... they probably would do that
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Hiro on January 15, 2015, 02:22:40 AM
the blue new xl was the only one I thought looked cool
and good luck with all the pissed off moms with the whole no charger thing nintendo
p. lame that no normal size, would actually consider that one
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on January 15, 2015, 12:25:19 PM
If Nintendo wants to pull off this shitty no-charger thing, it should accept USB type C as the 3DS's charging port
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on January 15, 2015, 01:20:41 PM
but that would mean the loss of one of the many lucrative nickel-'n'-diming schemes through which nintendo makes half of its money
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: bluaki on January 15, 2015, 03:30:48 PM
Quote from: Tectron on January 15, 2015, 01:20:41 PM
but that would mean the loss of one of the many lucrative nickel-'n'-diming schemes through which nintendo makes half of its money
I think Nintendo makes most of its money by charging so much for games and never lowering prices hocuspocus;
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on January 15, 2015, 04:09:11 PM
Quote from: bluaki on January 15, 2015, 03:30:48 PM
Quote from: Tectron on January 15, 2015, 01:20:41 PM
but that would mean the loss of one of the many lucrative nickel-'n'-diming schemes through which nintendo makes half of its money
I think Nintendo makes most of its money by charging so much for games and never lowering prices hocuspocus;
this


oh and those $12+ hunks of 5 cent plastic
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on January 20, 2015, 11:55:34 PM
why would you want to play them in japanese though?  unless japanese 3ds systems can play the version eleased in english in other parts of asia
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on January 20, 2015, 11:55:41 PM
snowy, you're better than that
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: don't let's on January 21, 2015, 08:36:40 AM
I wonder what the sales stats are for the 3ds and the xl here?
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Hiro on January 21, 2015, 10:40:21 AM
Quote from: … on January 21, 2015, 08:36:40 AM
I wonder what the sales stats are for the 3ds and the xl here?
I think sales of the XL must be quite a big higher here, i heard it was something like 2:1 in favor of the XL in japan, at least for "New" 3DS, though I don't have a source for that
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on February 07, 2015, 12:01:26 AM
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/qUNBIMv.jpg)[/spoiler]

these are infinitely better looking than the tacky gold """new""" 3ds xl

just to add insult to injury i guess lol goodjob;
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Hiro on February 07, 2015, 07:23:02 PM
i mean they're just faceplates, and i think that gold xl looks nice, but yeah lol
i really wish the standard new 3ds was available here
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on February 07, 2015, 07:24:06 PM
Quote from: Tectron on February 07, 2015, 12:01:26 AM
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/qUNBIMv.jpg)[/spoiler]

these are infinitely better looking than the tacky gold """new""" 3ds xl

just to add insult to injury i guess lol goodjob;
still can't believe we're not getting the new normal 3ds lol
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Classic on February 08, 2015, 07:28:05 AM
XL 4 LIFE
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Commander Fuckass on February 08, 2015, 10:59:52 AM
Quote from: Classic on February 08, 2015, 07:28:05 AM
XL 4 LIFE
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: don't let's on February 08, 2015, 11:41:59 AM
Quote from: Commander Fuckass on February 08, 2015, 10:59:52 AM
Quote from: Classic on February 08, 2015, 07:28:05 AM
XL 4 LIFE

Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: 6M69I69B9 on February 08, 2015, 05:04:58 PM
xls are discussing
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: 6M69I69B9 on February 08, 2015, 05:11:58 PM

also quick question guys

so i want to trade in my 3ds for a new one

but...

i also want to transfer the data from my 3ds to my new 3ds

how do i go about this?  just give them something for collateral and then return with my old 3ds??

b/c i've heard you need an internet connection to do it

Quote from: Snowy on February 08, 2015, 05:11:50 PM
What are they talking about?
about how they're disgusting
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: 6M69I69B9 on February 08, 2015, 05:14:38 PM
Quote from: Snowy on February 08, 2015, 05:13:10 PM
at most gamestop they'll let youi do that, yeah.
ooooof some confirmation from an actual gamestop employee

thank you!
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: bluaki on February 09, 2015, 02:56:32 PM
Quote from: TLL7-MIB-7LLT on February 08, 2015, 05:11:58 PM

also quick question guys

so i want to trade in my 3ds for a new one

but...

i also want to transfer the data from my 3ds to my new 3ds

how do i go about this?  just give them something for collateral and then return with my old 3ds??

I've heard that the procedure you have to take for that is:
1. Buy a new 3DS XL at full price and keep the receipt, maybe mention the deal to the clerk when you buy
2. Go home or to anywhere that has decent wifi to do the system transfer asap
3. Return to GameStop very soon (maybe has to be within the same day?) with your receipt to trade in your old 3DS to get a cash refund equal to the trade-in offer (rather than the normal low price of just trading it in)

Somewhere in that process, you'll have to move all the data from your old 3DS's full-size SD card to a microSD card. If you have a spare microSD+adapter laying around, you can do that part of the transfer now so that after release you can just pop the microSD card out of the adapter.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: 6M69I69B9 on February 10, 2015, 06:30:55 PM
well i asked my local gamestop

they're not allowing it.

man you know what, i'm just going to buy the new 3ds and then just sell my old one on ebay or craigslist.

or hell maybe i should just keep it.  the circle pad i have on it is pretty loose though.  maybe ill get like $70 for it at the most idk.  i should check.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: 6M69I69B9 on February 11, 2015, 03:59:06 PM
lol

augh i'm just going to sell it. 

r i p original 3ds

won't miss that gloss finish tho

fking discussing
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 11, 2015, 06:17:48 PM
can i even preorder it anywhere anymore?
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Classic on February 11, 2015, 07:14:43 PM
Gamestop is apparently sold out of all New 3DS models.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 11, 2015, 08:39:35 PM
found one for preorder at best buy.com...
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 12, 2015, 07:46:12 AM
Quote from: Snowy on February 12, 2015, 07:40:18 AM
so then get it
Why are you being so demanding? I'll get it if I want to goowan
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Samus Aran on February 12, 2015, 09:00:57 AM
Snowy works for Nintendo
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on February 12, 2015, 09:03:48 AM
Quote from: Platinum the Trinity on February 12, 2015, 09:00:57 AM
Snowy works for Nintendo
uh, I actually work for it and I can confirm you're full of $&*!
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 12, 2015, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: Snowy on February 12, 2015, 09:11:41 AM
Quote from: Jojo on February 12, 2015, 07:46:12 AM
Quote from: Snowy on February 12, 2015, 07:40:18 AM
so then get it
Why are you being so demanding? I'll get it if I want to goowan
I'm not being demanding? Why do you always have to try to start shit with me some on man. goodjob;
oh snowy..... learn to take a joke
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 12, 2015, 10:12:15 AM
Quote from: Snowy on February 12, 2015, 10:01:54 AM
I know how to take a joke, your jokes are just bad.
wow rude.
Feel better now?
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Samus Aran on February 12, 2015, 10:32:20 AM
Take it outside, children
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 12, 2015, 10:35:55 AM
Quote from: Platinum the Trinity on February 12, 2015, 10:32:20 AM
Take it outside, children
but it's below zero right now.... :(

dang it snowy, you got us in trouble
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 12, 2015, 10:36:37 AM
Quote from: Snowy on February 12, 2015, 10:35:48 AM
Fuck you mom, it's cold outside!!
that's it you're grounded
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on February 12, 2015, 11:31:02 AM
cool thing about the new 3ds xl. it seperates the men, from the boys.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 12, 2015, 11:33:47 AM
Quote from: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo on February 12, 2015, 11:31:02 AM
cool thing about the new 3ds xl. it seperates the men, from the boys.
which is which? new owners? or old owners?
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on February 12, 2015, 11:40:02 AM
no owners
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 12, 2015, 11:42:16 AM
Quote from: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo on February 12, 2015, 11:40:02 AM
no owners
shit....
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: 6M69I69B9 on February 12, 2015, 02:10:18 PM
wow just called my local gamestop

all sold out

fk it, ill w8 until shit slows down i am not that thirsty @ all

lmao the guy i was on the phone with said nintendo sucks at getting their products out and they're still waiting for shipments of the ssb4 bundle that they haven't had since November last year. 

dang
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 12, 2015, 02:36:04 PM
Quote from: TLL7-MIB-7LLT on February 12, 2015, 02:10:18 PM
wow just called my local gamestop

all sold out

fk it, ill w8 until shit slows down i am not that thirsty @ all

lmao the guy i was on the phone with said nintendo sucks at getting their products out and they're still waiting for shipments of the ssb4 bundle that they haven't had since November last year. 

dang
check best buy... they might still have it
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: 6M69I69B9 on February 12, 2015, 05:01:34 PM
Quote from: Jojo on February 12, 2015, 02:36:04 PM
Quote from: TLL7-MIB-7LLT on February 12, 2015, 02:10:18 PM
wow just called my local gamestop

all sold out

fk it, ill w8 until shit slows down i am not that thirsty @ all

lmao the guy i was on the phone with said nintendo sucks at getting their products out and they're still waiting for shipments of the ssb4 bundle that they haven't had since November last year. 

dang
check best buy... they might still have it


lol

actually i did that before reading this post

estim8ed to come here in 6 days dang
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 12, 2015, 06:34:43 PM
Quote from: TLL7-MIB-7LLT on February 12, 2015, 05:01:34 PM
Quote from: Jojo on February 12, 2015, 02:36:04 PM
Quote from: TLL7-MIB-7LLT on February 12, 2015, 02:10:18 PM
wow just called my local gamestop

all sold out

fk it, ill w8 until shit slows down i am not that thirsty @ all

lmao the guy i was on the phone with said nintendo sucks at getting their products out and they're still waiting for shipments of the ssb4 bundle that they haven't had since November last year. 

dang
check best buy... they might still have it


lol

actually i did that before reading this post

estim8ed to come here in 6 days dang
nice.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on February 13, 2015, 09:05:01 AM
graphical comparison of mh4 on 3ds vs """new""" 3ds

http://imgur.com/a/rzLJb
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on February 13, 2015, 09:27:24 AM
Quote from: Tectron on February 13, 2015, 09:05:01 AM
graphical comparison of mh4 on 3ds vs """new""" 3ds

http://imgur.com/a/rzLJb
the look different, but i honestly can't say which one is better definitively without source images lol
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Thyme on February 13, 2015, 09:27:59 AM
Quote from: Tectron on February 13, 2015, 09:05:01 AM
graphical comparison of mh4 on 3ds vs """new""" 3ds

http://imgur.com/a/rzLJb


that is p. noticeable and i'm actually a bit miffed by this akudood;

is this the first time a company releases a re-edition of a console and it's technically more powerful than its predecessor? that's usually reserved to mobiles and tablets...
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on February 13, 2015, 09:32:13 AM
Quote from: Thymian on February 13, 2015, 09:27:59 AM
Quote from: Tectron on February 13, 2015, 09:05:01 AM
graphical comparison of mh4 on 3ds vs """new""" 3ds

http://imgur.com/a/rzLJb


that is p. noticeable and i'm actually a bit miffed by this akudood;

is this the first time a company releases a re-edition of a console and it's technically more powerful than its predecessor? that's usually reserved to mobiles and tablets...


the dsi and xl variants were more powerful technically speaking than the original ds+lite, right?

and the first revision of the psp doubled the amount of ram the system had [to an astounding 64mb] to compensate for the poor load times the first generation of psp games had
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Thyme on February 13, 2015, 09:35:10 AM
well yeah, but graffix tho?
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on February 13, 2015, 10:28:58 AM
Quote from: Thymian on February 13, 2015, 09:35:10 AM
well yeah, but graffix tho?
i'm not sure


but to be honest, this 'improvement' is mostly unimpressive lol
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on February 13, 2015, 10:37:34 AM
note that mh4 has """new""" 3ds-specific coding and for the vast majority of current games the difference won't be nearly that significant

also, screen and color quality (+ loading times) comparison:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuo8JDZHtoA#t=421
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 13, 2015, 10:40:58 AM
I remember hearing something about "new 3ds enhanced" games that take advantage of the new hardware, but are not exclusive to the new hardware like xenoblade.

Dsi had a similar thing with dsi exclusives, which were hardly "games" and dsi enhanced games.
I can't recall any of those though....
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on February 13, 2015, 11:00:51 AM
Quote from: Tectron on February 13, 2015, 10:37:34 AM
note that mh4 has """new""" 3ds-specific coding and for the vast majority of current games the difference won't be nearly that significant

also, screen and color quality (+ loading times) comparison:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuo8JDZHtoA#t=421
man it even still has that popin on the main menu


also, my brother got one rofl
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on February 13, 2015, 11:02:14 AM
the poor soul

[spoiler]

do a comparison with pix if you can y/n[/spoiler]
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: 6M69I69B9 on February 13, 2015, 11:06:40 AM
5 more days until i get mine omg
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on February 13, 2015, 02:48:21 PM
Quote from: Tectron on February 13, 2015, 11:02:14 AM
the poor soul

[spoiler]

do a comparison with pix if you can y/n[/spoiler]
yy i'll def do  that
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Samus Aran on February 13, 2015, 04:03:36 PM
Grant got a Majoras Mask one somehow wtf
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on February 13, 2015, 04:10:51 PM
i think it's actually his sister's bf's lol

but he also said every target had a stock of five in addition to however many might have been preordered per store
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 13, 2015, 04:33:47 PM
I would've liked to get the monster hunter one, but the fact that it says monster hnter 4 ultimate on it didn't please me.

the design alone would've looked cool
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Samus Aran on February 13, 2015, 04:48:11 PM
Quote from: Tectron on February 13, 2015, 04:10:51 PM
i think it's actually his sister's bf's lol

but he also said every target had a stock of five in addition to however many might have been preordered per store


Oh I just assumed it was his goowab
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 13, 2015, 04:52:17 PM
Quote from: Platinum the Trinity on February 13, 2015, 04:48:11 PM
Quote from: Tectron on February 13, 2015, 04:10:51 PM
i think it's actually his sister's bf's lol

but he also said every target had a stock of five in addition to however many might have been preordered per store


Oh I just assumed it was his goowab
goowan
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Nyerp on February 13, 2015, 04:54:02 PM
my goowab has been itchy lately
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Samus Aran on February 13, 2015, 06:08:34 PM
THE POWER OF GOB
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: don't let's on February 13, 2015, 06:25:21 PM
[Size=2pt]gobstoppers
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Hiro on February 14, 2015, 01:04:19 PM
Quote from: Tectron on February 13, 2015, 04:10:51 PM
i think it's actually his sister's bf's lol

but he also said every target had a stock of five in addition to however many might have been preordered per store
both of these are correct, i just camped out with him for it
if i'd had the money i possibly would have gotten one, the thing is v. nice

Quote from: Platinum the Trinity on February 13, 2015, 04:48:11 PM
Oh I just assumed it was his goowab
yes that was my intent lmao
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: 6M69I69B9 on February 14, 2015, 02:11:33 PM
dang they didn't even ship mine and i only got an estimate of when it'll come

this sux

Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Classic on February 14, 2015, 07:12:47 PM
I love mine.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 14, 2015, 08:01:25 PM
Quote from: TLL7-MIB-7LLT on February 14, 2015, 02:11:33 PM
dang they didn't even ship mine and i only got an estimate of when it'll come

this sux


mine too.
if it doesnt ship on monday, i'll call support
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: bluaki on February 15, 2015, 12:03:55 AM
I picked up my N3DSXL and a copy of MM3D on Friday. It feels nice and the 3D really is improved, but it's still a very minor upgrade and very much the same as my regular 3DSXL. I would have preferred the smaller N3DS model and I might actually still consider it if they eventually release it here.

My system is the regular black color, while my roommates got the MM-edition and MH-edition systems. I think both special edition systems look a lot better in-person than they did in pictures.

Quote from: Snowy on February 14, 2015, 11:53:55 PM
Also the little nubbin is great for Smash.
>still playing SSB3D after SSBU released

Quote from: Jojo on February 13, 2015, 10:40:58 AM
Dsi had a similar thing with dsi exclusives, which were hardly "games" and dsi enhanced games.
I can't recall any of those though....
DSi-enhanced games may optionally use the cameras or WPA-secured wifi networks, but they are region-locked so that they can only be played on DSi systems from the same region they were released in (while they can play on DS and DS Lite systems from any region)
The most popular DSi-enhanced games are Pokemon Black, White, Black 2, and White 2.
The only other first or second party examples, as far as I know, are Pokemon Conquest and one of the Mario vs DK Minis games.

DSi-exclusive games include every download-only "DSiWare" game and exactly four retail games: Face Training, Foto Showdown, Picture Perfect Hair Salon, and System: Flaw. None of them were particularly major releases and all of them required the cameras for gameplay. Face Training in particular wasn't even released in US.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 15, 2015, 01:35:50 AM
Quote from: bluaki on February 15, 2015, 12:03:55 AM
I picked up my N3DSXL and a copy of MM3D on Friday. It feels nice and the 3D really is improved, but it's still a very minor upgrade and very much the same as my regular 3DSXL. I would have preferred the smaller N3DS model and I might actually still consider it if they eventually release it here.

My system is the regular black color, while my roommates got the MM-edition and MH-edition systems. I think both special edition systems look a lot better in-person than they did in pictures.

Quote from: Snowy on February 14, 2015, 11:53:55 PM
Also the little nubbin is great for Smash.
>still playing SSB3D after SSBU released

Quote from: Jojo on February 13, 2015, 10:40:58 AM
Dsi had a similar thing with dsi exclusives, which were hardly "games" and dsi enhanced games.
I can't recall any of those though....
DSi-enhanced games may optionally use the cameras or WPA-secured wifi networks, but they are region-locked so that they can only be played on DSi systems from the same region they were released in (while they can play on DS and DS Lite systems from any region)
The most popular DSi-enhanced games are Pokemon Black, White, Black 2, and White 2.
The only other first or second party examples, as far as I know, are Pokemon Conquest and one of the Mario vs DK Minis games.

DSi-exclusive games include every download-only "DSiWare" game and exactly four retail games: Face Training, Foto Showdown, Picture Perfect Hair Salon, and System: Flaw. None of them were particularly major releases and all of them required the cameras for gameplay. Face Training in particular wasn't even released in US.
i forgot dsiware was a thing.....
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 16, 2015, 11:11:14 AM
New 3DS XL on its way...
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on February 16, 2015, 06:36:11 PM
Quote from: http://www.polygon.com/2015/2/13/8032475/new-nintendo-3ds-xl-reviewIf the disappointing launch years of the Wii U weren't evidence enough, the New Nintendo 3DS XL further demonstrates that Nintendo doesn't have a clue how to name and market its hardware. We can't fathom the amount of bewilderment the New Nintendo 3DS XL may cause in a mainstream audience, particularly if Nintendo starts publishing a higher volume of games exclusive to the new hardware. Nintendo seems to want to take the Apple approach to naming, but a 3DS is not an iPad; this can only to lead to headaches.

It doesn't help matters that the New Nintendo 3DS XL looks more or less identical to the previous 3DS XL model, aside from additional inputs and a slightly rounder bevel. The smaller New Nintendo 3DS model avoids this sameyness with interchangeable faceplates â€" but that smaller version has not been announced for release in North America. And on top of everything else, the new hardware doesn't come with a charging cable, adding additional cost on for anyone who doesn't currently own a 3DS.

Worse yet, the unclear message behind the New Nintendo 3DS XL undermines the hardware. We don't have a firm sense of whether the system will be supported for long, whether it will divide the 3DS market, whether it's an upgrade that's going to be necessary in the long-term or not.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 16, 2015, 06:38:48 PM
Quote from: David on February 16, 2015, 06:36:11 PM
Quote from: http://www.polygon.com/2015/2/13/8032475/new-nintendo-3ds-xl-reviewIf the disappointing launch years of the Wii U weren't evidence enough, the New Nintendo 3DS XL further demonstrates that Nintendo doesn't have a clue how to name and market its hardware. We can't fathom the amount of bewilderment the New Nintendo 3DS XL may cause in a mainstream audience, particularly if Nintendo starts publishing a higher volume of games exclusive to the new hardware. Nintendo seems to want to take the Apple approach to naming, but a 3DS is not an iPad; this can only to lead to headaches.

It doesn't help matters that the New Nintendo 3DS XL looks more or less identical to the previous 3DS XL model, aside from additional inputs and a slightly rounder bevel. The smaller New Nintendo 3DS model avoids this sameyness with interchangeable faceplates â€" but that smaller version has not been announced for release in North America. And on top of everything else, the new hardware doesn't come with a charging cable, adding additional cost on for anyone who doesn't currently own a 3DS.

Worse yet, the unclear message behind the New Nintendo 3DS XL undermines the hardware. We don't have a firm sense of whether the system will be supported for long, whether it will divide the 3DS market, whether it's an upgrade that's going to be necessary in the long-term or not.

This is exactly my thoughts when the thing was first announced.

But I still got one, because
1. I wanted an XL
2. Best version so far
3. Whatever it was time to upgrade.

But its still stupid and even worse marketing than Wii U.

It would've been a better idea to at least call it 3DS U
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on February 16, 2015, 06:49:16 PM
Quote from: Jojo on February 16, 2015, 06:38:48 PM
It would've been a better idea to at least call it 3DS U


considering that the '''new''' 3ds is just an improved 3ds and not an entirely new machine, while the wii u is an entirely new machine and not just an improved wii, i think that probably would have been even more confusing lol

but yeah there were a plethora of naming options they could have chosen to indicate that it's an improved 3ds without trying and failing miserably to copy apple's flair and confusing every single one of their ten remaining loyal customers
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on February 18, 2015, 02:53:39 PM
also, i wish the brightness control were a hardware button instead of software-based
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: YPrrrr on February 18, 2015, 02:58:48 PM
Quote>still playing SSB3D after SSBU released
>using the cstick/nubbin
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 18, 2015, 03:27:04 PM
Quote from: YPR Classic on February 18, 2015, 02:58:48 PM
Quote>still playing SSB3D after SSBU released
>using the cstick/nubbin
lol
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 18, 2015, 03:28:48 PM
So i got my new 3ds and got all data transferred .
i really like this thing. more so for it being an xl
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: bluaki on February 18, 2015, 03:37:43 PM
Quote from: David on February 18, 2015, 02:53:39 PM
also, i wish the brightness control were a hardware button instead of software-based
I like the way DSi in particular handled both volume and brightness. It has volume up/down buttons on the side of the system (rather than a slider that you can accidentally move) and you can hold select to use those buttons as brightness up/down.

Every other DS and 3DS system has brightness control in software only.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: don't let's on February 18, 2015, 03:38:37 PM
I miss those volume wheels
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: 6M69I69B9 on February 21, 2015, 05:59:13 PM
man i just got mine yesterday and wow holy shit

it is so big

im so used to regular rsized

tho i still want reg. sized.  but wow playing on a big screen is really cool

just wow

transferred everything and etc. pretty cool

also used my amiibos for the first time. 
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on February 21, 2015, 06:01:24 PM
how do those of you who now have access to one feel about its pixel density sillydood;
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: 6M69I69B9 on February 21, 2015, 06:09:40 PM
man

smh...
tbh imo
some things on the xl look pretty discussing

before i transferred everything i was surprised how sharp the reg 3ds seemed in comparison


Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on February 21, 2015, 06:10:13 PM
Quote from: Tectron on February 21, 2015, 06:01:24 PM
how do those of you who now have access to one feel about its pixel density sillydood;
awful.  even compared to the normal 3ds xl
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on February 21, 2015, 06:15:43 PM
apparently its pixel density is hardly any better than the original gameboy's

lol
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on February 21, 2015, 06:16:24 PM
Quote from: TLL7-MIB-7LLT on February 21, 2015, 06:09:40 PM
man

smh...
tbh imo
some things on the xl look pretty discussing

before i transferred everything i was surprised how sharp the reg 3ds seemed in comparison





are there are games in particular that look discussing on it
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on February 21, 2015, 06:27:14 PM
Quote from: Tectron on February 21, 2015, 06:16:24 PM
Quote from: TLL7-MIB-7LLT on February 21, 2015, 06:09:40 PM
man

smh...
tbh imo
some things on the xl look pretty discussing

before i transferred everything i was surprised how sharp the reg 3ds seemed in comparison





are there are games in particular that look discussing on it
animal crossing
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Classic on February 21, 2015, 07:07:52 PM
It looks like you're playing through a screen door.  giggle;
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 21, 2015, 08:21:41 PM
I havent really noticed. it doesnt look to bad to me.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on February 21, 2015, 08:25:21 PM
although i did notice kingdom hearts looking a bit more jaggy, but nothing distracting
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 22, 2015, 01:06:22 AM
i got my hands on a pair of these the other day (upgrading from a non-xl original model)

+super stable 3d actually makes the 3d slider worth having up at all times, the way it should have been when the original piece of garbage was first launched
+i was lucky enough to get one with ips screens (as opposed to tn screens like the other models use), color quality and viewing angles are immensely better on this model
+layout and overall feel of the face buttons is improved, triggers don't feel quite as fragile (though knowing nintendo's track record with handheld shoulder buttons i doubt they're actually any sturdier)
+i had my concerns about the screen size and reduced pixel density, but honestly it looks fine lol, i greatly prefer these larger screens over the postage stamps that were the original 3ds' and the benefits of the larger screens far outweigh the ppi cost

Quote from: Classic on February 21, 2015, 07:07:52 PM
It looks like you're playing through a screen door.  giggle;


i mean it really isn't nearly this bad lol

still, minimum of 720p would be great, and if nintendo's next handheld doesn't manage at least that, in a world where the average $200 shitphone can have a 1080p ips display, then i hope the iphone 7s wipes nintendo off the map once and for all

anyway,

-stupid sd card placement, i really shouldn't need a screwdriver and to pry off the entire back panel to access it
-needlessly convoluted system transfer process full of idiotic and inconvenient drm measures
-the complete lack of tactile feedback from the analog nub - while it works, it simply doesn't move at all
-charger sold separately 5thgrade;
-dumb and completely unnecessary glossiness, why in shit's name does nintendo still insist on glossy handhelds when they become dull and covered in body oils within five minutes of use
-the fact that not every model of the new 3ds comes with comes with the vastly superior ips screens, it seems like 66% of them come with the obviously inferior tn screens that the old models use, and because there's no mention of this anywhere on the external packaging and no acknowledgement of the screen tech differences from nintendo, it's entirely luck of the draw whether you get a model with superior ips screens or not (i mean holy shit how is that acceptable)

the second model i picked up has tn screens and the difference in quality compared to the other model is absolutely appalling

i swear to cripes, nintendo doesn't have a goddamn ounce of respect for its brain dead fans, it's legitimately one of the most anti-consumer companies in the gaming industry
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Hiro on August 22, 2015, 01:33:05 AM
w-would you be willing to sell the 2nd one or something
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 22, 2015, 01:43:46 AM
now i really do wish i had purchased more when i had the chance >.<

i should have clarified, while i did buy two of them, one was actually just a pick-up for my brother lol :'(
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Hiro on August 22, 2015, 01:26:12 PM
oh lol it's okay :x
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: bluaki on August 22, 2015, 08:09:36 PM
Quote from: Tectron on August 22, 2015, 01:06:22 AM
still, minimum of 720p would be great, and if nintendo's next handheld doesn't manage at least that, in a world where the average $200 shitphone can have a 1080p ips display, then i hope the iphone 7s wipes nintendo off the map once and for all
A screen resolution of 240p is truly atrocious, but 1080p is excessive. Higher resolution means much worse graphical performance and battery life.

What phones at $200 (unsubsidized) or lower actually have 1080p? I know several with 720p, but none with 1080.

480p really should be the bare minimum for a handheld gaming system in this decade. 540p and 720p can be a bit nicer, but I think anything above 720p is excessive for now until we get dramatic improvements in GPUs, screen prices, and battery. Even for phones (which are reasonably-sized enough to actually pocket and use one-handed), I think 1080p is a bit excessive and probably wastes more battery than it's worth.

I sure hope that touchscreen-only games never totally replace games with real buttons.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 22, 2015, 08:52:10 PM
Quote from: bluaki on August 22, 2015, 08:09:36 PM
Quote from: Tectron on August 22, 2015, 01:06:22 AM
still, minimum of 720p would be great, and if nintendo's next handheld doesn't manage at least that, in a world where the average $200 shitphone can have a 1080p ips display, then i hope the iphone 7s wipes nintendo off the map once and for all
A screen resolution of 240p is truly atrocious, but 1080p is excessive. Higher resolution means much worse graphical performance and battery life.

What phones at $200 (unsubsidized) or lower actually have 1080p? I know several with 720p, but none with 1080.

480p really should be the bare minimum for a handheld gaming system in this decade. 540p and 720p can be a bit nicer, but I think anything above 720p is excessive for now until we get dramatic improvements in GPUs, screen prices, and battery. Even for phones (which are reasonably-sized enough to actually pocket and use one-handed), I think 1080p is a bit excessive and probably wastes more battery than it's worth.

I sure hope that touchscreen-only games never totally replace games with real buttons.


Actually, my current $200 unlocked shitphone has a 1080p 5.5in IPS display. sillydood;

in addition to some other impressive specs for its asking price

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875220004

i do agree that the battery costs for 1080p for a handheld system wouldn't be nearly worth the negligible visual enhancement, but i don't think 720p or something in that range like 648p would be too much to ask

and i wouldn't want that either, but the market increasingly doesn't seem to care whether or not its handheld gaming platform of choice has physical buttons, and if nintendo fails to impress again in the 9th gen it truly will see even more of its market share devoured by apple
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on August 22, 2015, 09:33:22 PM
with a screen that small, does it even matter if the resolution is 720 or 1080
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 22, 2015, 10:01:08 PM
the jump from 720p to 1080p would more than double the pixel count and consequently halve the battery life, in addition to putting more stress on the cpu/gpu, on a screen so small that that the visual benefits could hardly be realized

still, i would like for the next nintendo handheld to be 720p or something near it, if manufacturers of cheap smartphones can manage that then so can nintendo

the 3ds costs $200 and has a resolution of 240p

even if you account for the fact that the 3ds has to render up to three images at a time at that resolution (upper screen x2, lower screen x1), it's still drawing less than 30% of the pixels a single 720p display would

in other words, while 1080p would be excessive, 720p would still be a huge improvement
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Hiro on August 29, 2015, 01:54:19 PM
yeah 720 seems good for a handheld
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on August 29, 2015, 02:19:58 PM
Quote from: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo on August 22, 2015, 09:33:22 PM
with a screen that small, does it even matter if the resolution is 720 or 1080
considering how phones make people think they need 1440p or higher, it doesn't matter if it truly needs it or not lol


>tfw the psp back in 2005 was a marvel for its high pixel density
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 01, 2015, 10:44:06 PM
http://www.polygon.com/2015/8/31/9235089/new-nintendo-3ds-north-america-release-date

now millions of braindead american nintendo fans can and will happily fork over their $200 for a needless fourth release of the 3ds, exactly as nintendo intended
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: bluaki on September 01, 2015, 11:07:29 PM
Quote from: Tectron on September 01, 2015, 10:44:06 PM
http://www.polygon.com/2015/8/31/9235089/new-nintendo-3ds-north-america-release-date

now millions of braindead american nintendo fans can and will happily fork over their $200 for a needless fourth release of the 3ds, exactly as nintendo intended
fourth? You underestimate them. This is the fifth release for North America. 3DS, 3DS XL, 2DS, N3DSXL, N3DS. Admittedly, most of the fans who already had one of the previous models probably wouldn't get a 2DS, so maybe only four of them matter to the people who want to always have the latest and greatest.

Japan, however, never got the 2DS. Considering they also simultaneously received N3DS+XL, they effectively had only 3 3DS releases.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 01, 2015, 11:22:27 PM
Quote from: bluaki on September 01, 2015, 11:07:29 PM
Quote from: Tectron on September 01, 2015, 10:44:06 PM
http://www.polygon.com/2015/8/31/9235089/new-nintendo-3ds-north-america-release-date

now millions of braindead american nintendo fans can and will happily fork over their $200 for a needless fourth release of the 3ds, exactly as nintendo intended
Admittedly, most of the fans who already had one of the previous models probably wouldn't get a 2DS, so maybe only four of them matter to the people who want to always have the latest and greatest.


yeah, that's what i mean, it's the fourth release in the sense that it's the fourth that the hxc nintendo fans would take interest in, the 2ds is marketed towards different demographic

i'd be less disgusted with their behavior if they had released them together like they did in japan, instead of initially making that choice for north american fans and then later telling them they're going to want to buy a smaller one anyway

but i guess they lose nothing by exploiting fanboys

Quote from: David on January 14, 2015, 12:08:25 PM
silly, nintendo wants you to buy this one so you have to buy another new 3ds when the smaller one comes out ^_^


confirmed
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: bluaki on September 01, 2015, 11:36:27 PM
tbh I'm surprised they released the smaller N3DS this late. After a few months, I seriously doubted we'd ever get it.

At this point, NX is likely to replace the 3DS in less than a year.

Although so far Nintendo has claimed NX is a separate system not intended to replace 3DS or Wii U, we all know how well that worked out last time they claimed the same thing. I guess I shouldn't be surprised if, like Game Boy Micro, they release yet another 3DS model after NX effectively already replaced it.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 01, 2015, 11:40:19 PM
i would be extremely surprised if nintendo's next console were actually designed to also cannibalize the sales of its handheld platform

i'm still betting it'll be an entirely stationary wii u successor console with a separate 3ds successor coming at a later point, it makes no sense for them to kill off one of their only two revenue streams like that

Quote from: bluaki on September 01, 2015, 11:36:27 PM
Although so far Nintendo has claimed NX is a separate system not intended to replace 3DS or Wii U


it's definitely replacing one or the other (almost certainly the wii u), but more than likely not both
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: bluaki on September 02, 2015, 12:19:59 AM
I think the popular interpretation/prediction of NX plans is that it'll be a pair of hardware systems launching together that tie together in some way, effectively replacing both 3DS and Wii U.

Considering Nintendo's usual console lifecycles so far, regardless of what "NX" actually is, shouldn't 3DS be dead within at most maybe a year and a half, probably less, unless it manages to outlive the abnormally-long-lived DS line? I think Nintendo has already mostly (if not fully) depleted its big releases for 3DS. The upcoming releases are just as lackluster as Wii U's if not even moreso. What's their biggest upcoming game? Metroid?
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Samus Aran on September 02, 2015, 12:28:56 AM
Metroid? What Metroid? I'm pretty sure there's no Metroid game coming out for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: TooB on September 02, 2015, 12:31:42 AM
Quote from: bluaki on September 02, 2015, 12:19:59 AM
I think the popular interpretation/prediction of NX plans is that it'll be a pair of hardware systems launching together that tie together in some way, effectively replacing both 3DS and Wii U.

Considering Nintendo's usual console lifecycles so far, regardless of what "NX" actually is, shouldn't 3DS be dead within at most maybe a year and a half, probably less, unless it manages to outlive the abnormally-long-lived DS line? I think Nintendo has already mostly (if not fully) depleted its big releases for 3DS. The upcoming releases are just as lackluster as Wii U's if not even moreso. What's their biggest upcoming game? Metroid?
metroid prime FF and Tri-force heroes are basically the same ideas.
Happy home designer could be pretty big too
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: ME## on September 03, 2015, 02:09:35 PM
Quote from: Tectron on September 01, 2015, 11:40:19 PM
i would be extremely surprised if nintendo's next console were actually designed to also cannibalize the sales of its handheld platform

i'm still betting it'll be an entirely stationary wii u successor console with a separate 3ds successor coming at a later point, it makes no sense for them to kill off one of their only two revenue streams like that

Quote from: bluaki on September 01, 2015, 11:36:27 PM
Although so far Nintendo has claimed NX is a separate system not intended to replace 3DS or Wii U


it's definitely replacing one or the other (almost certainly the wii u), but more than likely not both
i don't know, you can see it that way.  but if nintendo has only one piece of hardware, a pseudo-console/handheld, next time around it reduces the need to develop different games in the same franchise and would finally mean that there could be a proper god damn console version of pokémon 
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 03, 2015, 07:06:26 PM
Quote from: bluaki on September 02, 2015, 12:19:59 AM
I think the popular interpretation/prediction of NX plans is that it'll be a pair of hardware systems launching together that tie together in some way, effectively replacing both 3DS and Wii U.


but why would they do this befuddlement

and "launching together" in what sense

if they're bundled together as part of a single package, they'd be greatly increasing the cost of entry into the nintendo experience for a feature that, like most of their other harebrained schemes, would be hardly utilized in any meaningful way by either developers or gamers themselves, and then they'd find themselves without a discrete handheld console to back it up like the 3ds to the wii u after it bombed

they'd be writing themselves out of console development

if they instead opted to sell two separate devices under the nx brand, using the same architecture and boasting 100% library cross-compatibility, then they'd be completely removing the need for a nintendo fan to own both their handheld and home console offerings

the vast majority would settle for just one or the other, probably the home console version, completely nullifying whatever few benefits a unified platform might offer

and both implementations would have the major issue of forcing any and all games to be massively limited in scope and scale by the weaknesses of the handheld version, once again needlessly stifling game development and scaring away third parties

not to mention, it simply isn't innovative in a gameplay sense they way nintendo hardware has historically striven to be

a consolidated home console/handheld hybrid would add absolutely nothing new to gameplay, and in fact do pretty much everything worse than a separate handheld and home console could, in addition to being overpriced, underpowered, uncompetitive, unintuitive, and repulsive to third parties

Quote from: bluaki on September 02, 2015, 12:19:59 AM
Considering Nintendo's usual console lifecycles so far, regardless of what "NX" actually is, shouldn't 3DS be dead within at most maybe a year and a half, probably less, unless it manages to outlive the abnormally-long-lived DS line? I think Nintendo has already mostly (if not fully) depleted its big releases for 3DS. The upcoming releases are just as lackluster as Wii U's if not even moreso. What's their biggest upcoming game? Metroid?


assuming the 3ds has exactly the same life trajectory as the original ds, it still has until about 2017 before a true successor

of course, in reality the 3ds is only about 2/5 as successful as the ds was, and i definitely agree that it's obvious that its library is drying up

waifu emblem: shameless dickbait edition, another boring zelda spinoff, a lackluster crossover of two long-dead mario rpg franchises, some $5 reskinned indie bs masquerading as a "'"metroid""" game, and that's it

still, in the public eye the wii u is doing even worse and nintendo's home console branch is in a much more dire situation, and so i think nintendo would much rather prioritize replacing the wii u in 2016 while trying to squeeze another year of life out of the healthier 3ds

there's no doubt in my mind that the nx is designed to succeed the wii u
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 03, 2015, 07:14:42 PM
Quote from: David on September 03, 2015, 02:09:35 PM
i don't know, you can see it that way.  but if nintendo has only one piece of hardware, a pseudo-console/handheld, next time around it reduces the need to develop different games in the same franchise and would finally mean that there could be a proper god damn console version of pokémon 


yes, but it also reduces potential sales from selling platform exclusives

one mario kart per generation as opposed to two, one animal crossing, half the number of zeldas, half the number of mainline marios, etc.

the removal of exclusivity nullifies any need a nintendo fan might have previously had to own both one nintendo handheld and one nintendo home console per generation (i certainly wouldn't buy both if they did exactly the same thing except at different resolutions)

it would also mean that games would have to be designed for the weaker handheld and then scaled up, greatly reducing the potential sophistication of any games on the platform

that """console""" pokemon we dream of seeing one day would essentially just be pokemon x/y except stretched across a 50in living room screen, and nobody wants that
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: bluaki on September 03, 2015, 08:48:55 PM
Quote from: Tectron on September 03, 2015, 07:06:26 PM
Quote from: bluaki on September 02, 2015, 12:19:59 AM
I think the popular interpretation/prediction of NX plans is that it'll be a pair of hardware systems launching together that tie together in some way, effectively replacing both 3DS and Wii U.


but why would they do this befuddlement

and "launching together" in what sense

if they're bundled together as part of a single package, they'd be greatly increasing the cost of entry into the nintendo experience for a feature that, like most of their other harebrained schemes, would be hardly utilized in any meaningful way by either developers or gamers themselves, and then they'd find themselves without a discrete handheld console to back it up like the 3ds to the wii u after it bombed

they'd be writing themselves out of console development

if they instead opted to sell two separate devices under the nx brand, using the same architecture and boasting 100% library cross-compatibility, then they'd be completely removing the need for a nintendo fan to own both their handheld and home console offerings

the vast majority would settle for just one or the other, probably the home console version, completely nullifying whatever few benefits a unified platform might offer

and both implementations would have the major issue of forcing any and all games to be massively limited in scope and scale by the weaknesses of the handheld version, once again needlessly stifling game development and scaring away third parties

not to mention, it simply isn't innovative in a gameplay sense they way nintendo hardware has historically striven to be

a consolidated home console/handheld hybrid would add absolutely nothing new to gameplay, and in fact do pretty much everything worse than a separate handheld and home console could, in addition to being overpriced, underpowered, uncompetitive, unintuitive, and repulsive to third parties
By "launching together" I mean they're probably sold separately but releasing around the same time, maybe? Or they could be bundled just like the GamePad already is.

"tie together in some way" could mean very many things, and there's still no telling what it actually is, but here's some random guesses of some other ways that can work out besides what you mentioned:
* Instead of including an expensive and limited GamePad with the console, they focus on attaining essentially the same functionality by connecting the new handheld to use as a (optional?) controller with every game for extra features
* Remote Play
* Or the inverse of remote play: projecting the handheld to a TV. They could even extend this to unlock stuff like couch multiplayer when played in this mode.
* Shared friend list
* Shared partial library, like maybe every VC game and certain dual-release games (like that recent Mario Minis WiiU+3DS game), with cross-buy and/or cross-save support via linked accounts.
* Shared "full" library, but under the condition that playing non-native games from the other system requires a streaming subscription like PS Now (ew)
* A lot more games with equivalent but not identical counterparts for both systems (like Smash), maybe with special connectivity features
* Individual games on the console can support a special take-to-go minigame experience that works with the handheld system in a similar way to Pokewalker (or the Sonic Advance Chao Garden)

I don't think any of those options sounds outrageous. Sony in particular already has had some of them for a while.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 03, 2015, 11:00:18 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/more-3ds-models-would-confuse-gamers-says-nintendo/1100-6384793/

lmao
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 04, 2015, 12:34:55 AM
also, yet another one of these now exists

http://www.siliconera.com/2015/09/01/take-a-look-at-the-hyrule-gold-edition-new-nintendo-3ds-xl/

(http://i.imgur.com/IMz6iwh.jpg)
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: bluaki on September 04, 2015, 12:59:50 PM
This is kinda way off topic from the N3DS now, but...

Half the speculation things I just said about NX just made it into a news article (Tec you better not be their "source"):
* points 1, 2, 4, and 5 from my last list
* 540p to 720p resolution
* supposedly 3DS replacement actually comes out first

http://mynintendonews.com/2015/09/04/more-nintendo-nx-rumours-emerge/

That said, I totally don't believe that article:
* screen resolution should be long finalized by now
* I can't believe part of Google's Android team moved to Nintendo
* I doubt they'd keep Wii U backwards compatibility, but wouldn't completely rule it out
* F-Zero and Metroid? Totally sounds like a fan's hopes.

I think the rest of it sounds plausible though.
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 04, 2015, 10:23:13 PM
Quote from: bluaki on September 04, 2015, 12:59:50 PM
(Tec you better not be their "source")


girl;

Quote from: bluaki on September 04, 2015, 12:59:50 PM
* points 1, 2, 4, and 5 from my last list


all of which sound like perfectly feasible ideas which would be genuinely valuable to gamers without making the handheld completely redundant or the home console depressingly underpowered

remote play would be welcome too

my concern is that sony has indeed been doing some of these for a while, to the point where the vita was marketed as a companion console for the ps4 after they realized its own pitiful library couldn't support it

and look how much that helped its sales, it's apparent that very few people see $200 worth of value in being able to play their console games on the go when they could play them at a much higher resolution on their ludicrously oversized screens at home

so while i would welcome many of these features, each console would additionally need to have its own set of system-selling exclusives if both are to be viable, and if they do indeed have their own set of exclusives then i don't think it makes sense to market them as a single """hybrid""" platform for what would basically amount to ease-of-access features as it would just create needless confusion (though knowing nintendo's absolutely idiotic naming schemes.............)

Quote from: bluaki on September 04, 2015, 12:59:50 PM
* supposedly 3DS replacement actually comes out first


the 3ds consistently outsells the wii u by a factor of at least 3-4 on a weekly basis

(http://i.imgur.com/H9UKumn.png)

it remains the best-selling platform just behind the ps4 despite its age and despite the fact that its library is drying up

nintendo would be absolutely insane to replace the 3ds before the wii u, which in comparison sells like the dying platform on its last legs that it is

How To Create Totally Believable Nintendo Rumours Every Time:



and nintendo """fans""", in their abject desperation, eat it all up every year without fail, without allowing themselves so much as a second of thought about the suspicious nature of such claims

what a sad bunch
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 02, 2015, 01:46:11 PM
http://kotaku.com/nintendos-not-so-subtle-hint-to-buy-new-hardware-for-mo-1745661660

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiKg3LG_Uqs[/youtube]

that like:dislike ratio, rofl
Title: Re: RUMOR: NEW 3DS XL out next month
Post by: Travis on December 02, 2015, 09:54:38 PM
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