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Title: well fuck nintendo
Post by: strongbad on July 09, 2013, 04:53:32 PM
sorry i know that you guys hate hearing about melee stuff but this is so dumb
http://kotaku.com/nintendo-wont-let-top-fighting-game-tournament-stream-724293474

okay, so it's fucked enough that nintendo won't let people stream the biggest melee tournament of all time (almost 700 entrants wtf), but it's even more fucked that melee fans raised fucking $93,000 to get melee in evo in the first place. the very people who paid money (to breast cancer. so selfless) so they could see the most legendary matches of all time go down won't get to see them unless they are attendants

nintendo fucking sucks jesus dude  akudood;
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: Hiro on July 09, 2013, 05:01:59 PM
i just saw this, it's quite shitty
still look forward to watching evo this weekend though
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Post by: Commander Fuckass on July 09, 2013, 06:26:26 PM
yeah because the first thing that comes to mind when thinking about Evo is Super Smash Bros........

keep ur kiddy game at home betch
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: ME## on July 09, 2013, 06:30:30 PM
Quote from: Kefka on July 09, 2013, 06:26:26 PM
yeah because the first thing that comes to mind when thinking about Evo is Super Smash Bros........

keep ur kiddy game at home betch
oh look, dp's being rude again
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: Commander Fuckass on July 09, 2013, 06:37:31 PM
Quote from: David on July 09, 2013, 06:30:30 PM
oh look, dp's being rude again
no?
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: strongbad on July 09, 2013, 06:38:14 PM
Quote from: Kefka on July 09, 2013, 06:26:26 PM
yeah because the first thing that comes to mind when thinking about Evo is Super Smash Bros........

keep ur kiddy game at home betch

well melee is the only game that isn't being streamed at evo so it's only relevant to melee
and it is the only game at evo that i care about

[spoiler]also it's the best competitive fighter on the market unless you count project m but that could still be debated lol[/spoiler]
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: Commander Fuckass on July 09, 2013, 06:40:13 PM
Quote from: udderfailure on July 09, 2013, 06:38:14 PM
well melee is the only game that isn't being streamed at evo so it's only relevant to melee
and it is the only game at evo that i care about

[spoiler]also it's the best competitive fighter on the market unless you count project m but that could still be debated lol[/spoiler]
i dont even know what project m is man.
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on July 09, 2013, 06:42:09 PM
lol nintendo

first its copyrighting of youtube fan videos, now this
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: Commander Fuckass on July 09, 2013, 06:44:11 PM
Quote from: #rektron on July 09, 2013, 06:42:09 PM
lol nintendo

first its copyrighting of youtube fan videos, now this
nails in the coffin
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Post by: Nyerp on July 09, 2013, 06:44:54 PM
none of this is really uncalled for of them lol.....................................................................
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: silvertone on July 09, 2013, 06:46:53 PM
u think this is game??? tough game for tough guys to play tough? youre dead wrong
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: ME## on July 09, 2013, 06:55:46 PM
Quote from: #rektron on July 09, 2013, 06:42:09 PM
lol nintendo

first its copyrighting of youtube fan videos, now this
nitnendo seems so weird about videos of its games now.  i really don't understand it lol
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on July 09, 2013, 07:27:16 PM
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/07/nintendo-backs-down-allows-smash-bros-streaming/
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: Hiro on July 09, 2013, 08:13:11 PM
Quote from: #rektron on July 09, 2013, 07:27:16 PM
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/07/nintendo-backs-down-allows-smash-bros-streaming/
lol cool
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: strongbad on July 09, 2013, 11:36:22 PM
yeah lol
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: YPrrrr on July 10, 2013, 07:49:13 AM
Way to be a Microsoft Nintendo
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: TooB on July 10, 2013, 11:52:34 AM
Best competetive fighter? What fighting games have you played? Smash and.... smash?
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: TooB on July 10, 2013, 12:27:33 PM
Too late i guess. Its just a game. A great one for sure, but geez, not THAT amazing.
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Post by: TooB on July 10, 2013, 12:30:15 PM
Besides, if he really likes it that much, should it really matter what i say?
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Post by: TooB on July 10, 2013, 12:38:43 PM
im really just asking what other fighting games hes played. And why he thinks smash is the best.
Im not calling him an idiot for thinking that or anything. But its the internet, so the snarkiness came out on its own.
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Post by: TooB on July 10, 2013, 12:40:46 PM
Exactly. My bad
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Post by: Commander Fuckass on July 10, 2013, 12:41:49 PM
Quote from: Snowy on July 10, 2013, 12:35:51 PM
no, but fighting game arguments are never good [spoiler]they usually just get to the point both people are yelling "No YOU'RE a faggot!" or something stupid[/spoiler]
omg no u
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: Commander Fuckass on July 10, 2013, 12:46:41 PM
Quote from: Snowy on July 10, 2013, 12:44:51 PM
No YOU'RE a faggot!
o-okay ;__________________________________;
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: 6M69I69B9 on July 10, 2013, 04:45:24 PM
UPDATE - Nintendo has reversed its initial decision, allowing the streaming to take place.
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: strongbad on July 10, 2013, 04:47:41 PM
Quote from: Chesty LaRue on July 10, 2013, 12:38:43 PM
im really just asking what other fighting games hes played. And why he thinks smash is the best.
Im not calling him an idiot for thinking that or anything. But its the internet, so the snarkiness came out on its own.

actually the only fighter that i've ever gotten into is smash, so i'm pretty damn biased, but i've tried to get into others without prevail
and i'm actually interested in other fighters since there is obvious an appeal for a lot of people

but idk the analogy that i like a lot is that melee (or smash in general i guess) is like the Jazz when normal fighters are more like Classical music. Other fighters have pre-made combos and even though there is more to it than just combos, they're a huge part of it. most combos that you see in smash are improvised. they depend on reads, percentage, and directional influence from the person being comboed. i'm not saying that traditional fighters don't take any less skill to be good at than smash, i just think that the combo system that goes into melee is fucking amazing and i cant imagine a better one

also, every element about competitive melee that isn't present in normal fighters is such a great mechanic imo. the edge play is fucking awesome. rewarding high risk maneuvers like going off stage for an edge guard is a great system. or you can play it safe and give them a better chance of recovering
also, platforms are awesome and add to the improvisational nature of the game

and something that rarely gets brought up is how amazing competitive 2v2 is in melee (team attack on, of course). team-based (improvisational) combos, having to watch out for 3 people (including your team mate, lol), and the crazy increase in mindgames is something that is pretty unique to smash imo

but honestly i would be really interested to hear why people prefer traditional fighters because i'm pretty biased

EDIT: also, i would argue that melee/P:M has much more character diversity than other fighters, but that could probably be argued. look at fox and marth. both have such drastically different playstyles (fox is technical as hell, hella fast, etc, marth is hella mobile, has amazing punish and spacing) yet they both consistently place high in tourny. Look at the results for Apex 2013 (http://www.smashboards.com/threads/official-apex-2013-results-thread-jan-11-13-2013-new-brunswick-nj.332658/) there are 8 different characters that placed in the top 8 (9 if you look to top 10 because somehow axe mastered pika lol) and all of those characters play so differently and have such drastically different movesets and options it's crazy

@MIB yeah we know that lol
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: silvertone on July 10, 2013, 05:17:45 PM
jazz is just medie val music played faster
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Post by: TooB on July 10, 2013, 05:26:14 PM
Quote from: udderfailure on July 10, 2013, 04:47:41 PM
actually the only fighter that i've ever gotten into is smash, so i'm pretty damn biased, but i've tried to get into others without prevail
and i'm actually interested in other fighters since there is obvious an appeal for a lot of people

but idk the analogy that i like a lot is that melee (or smash in general i guess) is like the Jazz when normal fighters are more like Classical music. Other fighters have pre-made combos and even though there is more to it than just combos, they're a huge part of it. most combos that you see in smash are improvised. they depend on reads, percentage, and directional influence from the person being comboed. i'm not saying that traditional fighters don't take any less skill to be good at than smash, i just think that the combo system that goes into melee is fucking amazing and i cant imagine a better one

also, every element about competitive melee that isn't present in normal fighters is such a great mechanic imo. the edge play is fucking awesome. rewarding high risk maneuvers like going off stage for an edge guard is a great system. or you can play it safe and give them a better chance of recovering
also, platforms are awesome and add to the improvisational nature of the game

and something that rarely gets brought up is how amazing competitive 2v2 is in melee (team attack on, of course). team-based (improvisational) combos, having to watch out for 3 people (including your team mate, lol), and the crazy increase in mindgames is something that is pretty unique to smash imo

but honestly i would be really interested to hear why people prefer traditional fighters because i'm pretty biased

EDIT: also, i would argue that melee/P:M has much more character diversity than other fighters, but that could probably be argued. look at fox and marth. both have such drastically different playstyles (fox is technical as hell, hella fast, etc, marth is hella mobile, has amazing punish and spacing) yet they both consistently place high in tourny. Look at the results for Apex 2013 (http://www.smashboards.com/threads/official-apex-2013-results-thread-jan-11-13-2013-new-brunswick-nj.332658/) there are 8 different characters that placed in the top 8 (9 if you look to top 10 because somehow axe mastered pika lol) and all of those characters play so differently and have such drastically different movesets and options it's crazy

@MIB yeah we know that lol
........fair enough
Title: Re: well fuck nintendo
Post by: strongbad on July 11, 2013, 08:45:12 AM
Also, just to add on, because of it's improvisational nature, people are able to fucking crazy things like in these vids:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwDHs6UXgR8[/youtube]
(skip to like 1:30 for actual matches since a lot of the spacie tech doesn't really make sense if you don't play)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y8rQ_0zNIg[/youtube]
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Post by: Hiro on July 11, 2013, 08:14:49 PM
sweet music.
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Post by: C.Mongler on July 12, 2013, 12:51:30 PM
smash is children's party game