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tec, while I agree with what you're saying, hasn't iwata confirmed to have a master document of a zelda timeline?
(http://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/83055661vs5.png)
i cried
yes, but unless nintedo's timeline says something similar to mine then screw them i'm right awdood;
i just like the general idea that the Hero's Shade is link from OoT.
http://www.thehylia.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1173582355&archive=&start_from=&ucat=19&
Woops, you should have stopped playing a couple of years ago.
can you read or are you really that retarded
Dotted line is Zelda sending Link back to his childhood.
could you at least explain why awdood;
It's probably not physically Link, but it's likely that it's his spirit or something, as opposed to LINK BECAME A STALFOS
>terrible cartoons
>canon
you can make me do the duck walk!
This THIS THIS
It's a mystery (or not) that will (or not) be revealed when the time is right (never). girl;
what
there is no specific timeline in Final Fantasy games unless its FFX-pigdisgusting2 or FFXIII-pigdisgusting2
square enix is smart enough to not make some shoddy attempt to force them all together into one big retarded timeline >.<
except when one dude said that 10 and 7 are connected lol
wasn't it just that they took place in the same galaxy/universe or whatever
i pray to god&jesus that they didn't take place on the same planet or some bullshit awdood;
ffxii, fft and vagrant story beg to differ goowan
but that's not a "shoddy attempt"; they all explicitly take place in the same world
lol i'm not even sure, but i think he said that one's events were distantly connected to the other's somehow
i don't even remember where i read it
yeah :|
also david you forgot ffta2 lol
ffta doesn't count because it was an "imaginary" ivalice
n fft includes its sequels, just like ffxii includes its pig disgusting ds sequel ugly;
UGH WHAT THE CHRISTING FUCK
lol
"rofl zelda fans are stupid and so is nintendo" comments aside, i don't even understand how timeline A works. why is oracle between alttp and awakening, exactly? there's nothing in the games to indicate that. nor do i really see why that timeline has to be what happens if link fails to defeat ganon. there's no reason to assume that those games could have only happened if oot ganon wasn't defeated...
well no it doesn't really make sense because the games have literally nothing to indicate any sort of "link failed" timeline
http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1215301p1.html
anyway, the way i understand it is that one timeline is the child link timeline after he's sent back to his childhood, another is the adult link timeline, and the last one is the timeline where ganon takes control of everything while link is asleep for 7 years or something lol akudood;
...that's the same timeline older link wakes up in A.K.A. THE ADULT FUCKING LINK TIMELINE psyduck;
uh nothing but why would he do that??????!?!??!
and how wouldn't there be a first time??!?!?!??
...what
the entire reason zelda sends link back in time is so that he and li'l zelda can prevent ganon from usurping the throne and fucking shit up
then it's seen in twilight princess that he's sealed in the twilight realm as a result of this and blah blah blah
the timeline splits because they create a new series of events that is completely different from what leads up to the final battle of oot...?
the fuck are you talking about
...what does that have to do with the quality of the games?
no
what happens
...how could link's awakening possibly be related to ww/ph/st in the first place myface;
duh goonish
i lol'd
what on earth
the split timeline theory or nintendo's new timeline bullshit?
but even so, why does the adult timeline matter at all lol
couldn't all subsequent games could fit comfortably into young link's timeline, i don't see why adult link's timeline is significant or even how it could be
he gets loose from two completely different places in tp and ww...does that help???
So what's the basis for the split timeline theory if it all could have been explained by one timeline before TP?
it's def. been around for far longer than tp's been around
but what's the fan basis lol
how did they come to the conclusion that the timeline must have been split if all the events could have been explained by one perfectly linear timeline
(not that i expect you or anyone else to know the answer to this)
because there are 2 possible timelines that oot leaves us with
that's it
yes
because they're sperglord fantards who look way too far into children's fiction
that's it
honestly oot isn't to blame
it makes perfect sense and there is no indication anywhere that there needs to be any sort of timeline splitting
it's just that 'fans' saw a crevice they could stuff with their idiotic fanfics and did exactly that awdood;
i basically said all of this
yes, the timeline did "split" there according to the game's plot but it's pretty damn obvious that nintendo didn't originally intend for it to become actually incorporated into the series and just caved into the fans' whining, just like they did with this awful new mess of a timeline
i think the very idea of them making a timeline is them caving into fans whining so there's that goodjob;
If the absence of Link in #3 let Ganon take over, why was his absence in #1 taken care of by the sages? Also, nothing ever says that happens for #1. The entire reason Link is gone for 7 years is BECAUSE the sages held him there. He never skips forward in time, he only gets held in another realm in a "sleep" or something, and then time travels BACK in time. Even if he did go forward in time, he goes to the point in time where Ganondorf has taken over, only to stop him. That doesn't somehow make a version where Ganondorf takes over and Link DOESN'T come out the other end of time-travel to stop him, that's just going into completely useless multiple dimension theories that have nothing to do with anything.
i understand that, but like nyerp said it's obvious that nintendo never intended for the first timeline to split off on its own (it doesn't make any sense whatsoever to place any of the current games there)
lolwaht
1. where or when is it ever even implied that could possibly have happened
ganon has seven years to roam around freely in link's absence but once that time is up, link returns to put an end to his shenanigans
nothing in oot ever suggests that 1 could have happened, THE LAST THING WE NEED IS MORE WORTHLESS FAN SPECULATION
2. ?????
3. nothing about wind waker requires it to take place in an alternate timeline
the oot -> mm -> ww sequence still fits perfectly into a single timeline
i agree with the first sentence
however i hope nintendo realizes this is a disaster and never attempts to create a timeline for anything ever again
nintendo games aren't ever designed to be story-heavy in the first place awdood;
How is the future in #3 without link? He defeated Ganon in the future and went back in time, presumably to age as normally. Why would there be no link in the future once link returns to the past where he can age as an adult and exist in the future again?
i can guarantee you it didn't exist until they read some ridiculous fanfics awdood;
zelda sent link back in time
he's physically gone from that timeline where ganon has been defeated
...okay? psyduck;
until team ninja sends adam to the future and sends him back to be a kid
that's because the games actually openly reference each other and everything's always been clear just from playing the games, and it's just a series that works better with timeline stuff
Metroid: Adam of Time (first Metroid in timeline)
After this game: Timeline 1/Timeline 2
Timeline 1: (Adam is a child, grows up) Every Metroid game follows
Timeline 2: (Adam doesn't exist) ???? NO GAMES HERE. YET.
So actually that doesn't mess anything up. Yet. goowan
[spoiler]brb killing myself[/spoiler]
maybe but madame clairvoya says something like "i thought bowser had been swiftly defeated by mario!" and was surprised to see bowser in a vision. to me that always struck me as saying that bowser was supposedly defeated permanently. as in with death. but maybe not. it's vague.
what do you mean why? it goes without saying. the game itself tells you that link was sent back to his original timeline, when he was a child. even without all this nonsense, that much was already obvious.
even if it was a suit, that doesn't mean bowser wasn't dead. and nothing in the game mentioned a suit.
Does he die as a teenager ;__;
Clearly some things in the past affect the future timeline like the well being drained (or Saria being a sage as can be seen by her still being in the end credits) so I don't see how Link living a normal childhood would prevent him from existing as an adult in that same timeline. It's not really "time travel" when he turns to an adult but rather being sealed away for 7 years so he always ages in that timeline. The time travel portion is more when he goes back in time.
i love you
FB was Father Brain
Right, the time travel portion is when he goes back in time. Like he does at the end of the game. Link disappears from the future, going back to where he belongs. The "present," as a child.
Child link, in his rightful timeline, inadvertently goes to Termina when trying to find Navi. What happens after that? Just look it up in the timeline thing.
Considering it's King Boo, who has basically magical powers, and is himself undead, I don't think it's exactly farfetched to say that it might not be a suit, and might literally be Bowser back from the dead. Just because King Boo is inside it doesn't mean it's a suit. It moves on its own while King Boo is outside of it, after all. The head floats around and shit. It might be the ghost of Bowser. It might just be an imitation of Bowser. It might be a suit. But it isn't definitely a suit.
Either way that still doesn't change that Madame Clairvoya makes it sound like the real Bowser is dead.
for some reason this strange use and lack of caps made me lol
me too
...is it incorrect to still think that? confuseddood;
i still think that
it is now smithicide;
i've been speaking in pre-tp terms this entire thread lol (because tp is a retroactive prequel based on fan idiocy)
I'm only here to find out how or why the timeline theory garnered so many fans if, pre-TP, OoT and its sequels could all have fit into a single timeline. >.<
it's been stated canonically to take place between oot/mm and ww
oh my god seriously
this is just like that awful post from outsider i quoted in the skyward sword thread
it doesn't create a "split timeline" because nintendo does not fucking care about making 100% coherent plots and the only reason the oot split is now apparently considered canon is that the fans fucking whined
wat, no, Ganon was killed at the end of the original Zelda
his followers attempted to bring him back in Zelda II by using Link's blood, which is why Ganon is brought back to life if you get a game over
what does that have to do with anything
i lol'd at this because it relates pretty heavily to that third timeline.........
Just in case kaz is confused and i am too lazy to edit my last post.
added bolded statement if that is what confused him.
I still stand by my original position. Reichdood;
But I will dabble in the fan idiocy for the sake of science. THE POWER OF GOD
no, no it doesn't, stop that
also did you not notice the fact that nintendo now apparently recognizes the split timeline theory officially
maybe it's a different take on the translation confuseddood;
japerneese is hard
...no? what are you seeing here that's different? confuseddood;
my question is why the hell do they call fsa "four swords +"
they could, but now that they've made their batshit retarded timeline public i doubt they will
Subsequent games will likely take further steps to legitimize that timeline. dittodood;
The WW seal is ganon being sealed in the master sword as he could be in the adult link timeline.
that way both timelines have him sealed away, just with different methods.
uh no ganondorf dies at the end of tp
he was sealed by the sages pre-game, and broke out. then link kills him at the end of the game. remember?
that's why it wouldn't have made sense if tp was before ww but it's actually not so i don't know what jmv was talking about anymore and now i just think he didn't even read the timeline
2) the ending of tp has nothing to do with anything i'm talking about
i think you're confused. the conversation jmv and i were having was about him being confused how tp could come before ww because of ganon's seal being broken for ww. but tp does not come before ww anyway, so it's a moot point.
the seal on ganon is already listed in the timeline normally with no confusion, i'm not sure why you're even talking about it. i know he was sealed away before the game's events. it says so right there already. and in the game.
Who knows? It's a potential place for a game.
Honestly, I'm not hating this whole timeline thing THAT much, it's just that the "The Hero is Defeated" timeline is an obvious attempt at Nintendo's parts to simply corral together the games that don't fit in the timeline otherwise and it's pretty goddamn stupid. The other stuff makes sense because those games were connected anyway.
Not saying that I'm happy that the split timeline is now legitimate, but it's not that big of a deal.
/assuming the timeline is linear
you like star wars right. Let's say that one day george lucas decides one day that due to faster than light travel in the millenium falcon a split timeline occurs to deal with the relativistic effects of ftl. In one timeline the galactic empire is defeated and in another it appears as if there is no luke, han, or chewie because they disappeared from the timeline so the empire wins. would you not be like 'wtf lol fuck u lucas ruining stuff lik always'
or pick another series.
Like I said in that split discussion in the recycle board. I like reading into the fictional histories and mythologies of different places (Hyrule, Middle Earth, STAH WAHS, etc). It is a personal interest for me. When the publisher of the content does something retarded like add a third timeline for a 'what if he never wins lol' to the canon of the series history it is quite frustrating.
fuck u saying my hobbies are not important. akudood;
i sort of anticipate that as well, and at that point, it'd become a problem. i just really hope nintendo either has a sudden spark of ingenuity that enables them to both tie the games together well and make a great fucking game
and not just one or the other
or neither smithicide;
http://www.zeldauniverse.net/zelda-news/hyrule-historia-reveals-oot-links-cameo-in-twilight-princess/
LOL
and we argued about this for all these pages...we have become the fantards...
Question: timeline theories are terrible
Option 1: yes
votes: 0
Option 2: yes
votes: 1
Option 3: YES
votes: 11
Option 4: no 
votes: 4
votes: 4
Title: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 04, 2011, 06:43:19 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 04, 2011, 06:43:19 PM
what are your opinions on the timeline(s) of the zelda series ghouldood;
I think it's fairly obvious that certain sets of games are meant to be directly connected to each other, such as:
1. The Legend of Zelda → Zelda II
2. A Link to the Past → Link's Awakening
3. Ocarina of Time → Majora's Mask → Twilight Princess → Wind Waker → Phantom Hourglass → Spirit Tracks
4. Oracle of Ages (⇌) Oracle of Seasons
5. Minish Cap → Four Swords → Four Swords Adventures
But I firmly believe there is no way they're all somehow directly connected to form one major timeline. Each of the five sets is a different retelling of the same legend, hence the name The Legend of Zelda. madood;
I think it's fairly obvious that certain sets of games are meant to be directly connected to each other, such as:
1. The Legend of Zelda → Zelda II
2. A Link to the Past → Link's Awakening
3. Ocarina of Time → Majora's Mask → Twilight Princess → Wind Waker → Phantom Hourglass → Spirit Tracks
4. Oracle of Ages (⇌) Oracle of Seasons
5. Minish Cap → Four Swords → Four Swords Adventures
But I firmly believe there is no way they're all somehow directly connected to form one major timeline. Each of the five sets is a different retelling of the same legend, hence the name The Legend of Zelda. madood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Thyme on August 04, 2011, 06:50:12 PM
Post by: Thyme on August 04, 2011, 06:50:12 PM
totes agree
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 04, 2011, 06:59:53 PM
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 04, 2011, 06:59:53 PM
I'm partial to the split timeline theory, which proposes that the timeline splits at Ocarina of Time. Child Link goes on to Majora's Mask and then other stuff, then in an alternate reality, adult Link goes on to do something else.
Anyway, I'm fine with the idea that the games take place within the same existence (save for the split), only with multiple Heroes and centuries apart from each other, though I think that last bit is obvious.
Anyway, I'm fine with the idea that the games take place within the same existence (save for the split), only with multiple Heroes and centuries apart from each other, though I think that last bit is obvious.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on August 04, 2011, 07:44:51 PM
Post by: Nyerp on August 04, 2011, 07:44:51 PM
put skyward before ocarina plz
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Dullahan on August 04, 2011, 10:00:06 PM
Post by: Dullahan on August 04, 2011, 10:00:06 PM
I'm reading that and I'm already tripping out.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on August 04, 2011, 10:04:28 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on August 04, 2011, 10:04:28 PM
i agree, tec
while the theories are interesting, i don't believe much of them in the slightest and i think that some of the stuff people come up with is truly silly
link became a stalfos
while the theories are interesting, i don't believe much of them in the slightest and i think that some of the stuff people come up with is truly silly
link became a stalfos
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on August 04, 2011, 10:06:21 PM
Post by: Nyerp on August 04, 2011, 10:06:21 PM
no link, you are the skull kids
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 04, 2011, 10:10:47 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 04, 2011, 10:10:47 PM
no link, you are the controller
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Hiro on August 04, 2011, 11:02:34 PM
Post by: Hiro on August 04, 2011, 11:02:34 PM
Quote from: Suigintou on August 04, 2011, 10:04:28 PMi really like this idea.
link became a stalfos
tec, while I agree with what you're saying, hasn't iwata confirmed to have a master document of a zelda timeline?
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on August 04, 2011, 11:27:20 PM
Post by: Nyerp on August 04, 2011, 11:27:20 PM
Quote from: Hiro on August 04, 2011, 11:02:34 PM
i really like this idea.
(http://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/83055661vs5.png)
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 04, 2011, 11:53:45 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 04, 2011, 11:53:45 PM
Quote from: Hiro on August 04, 2011, 11:02:34 PM
i really like this idea.
i cried
Quote from: Hiro on August 04, 2011, 11:02:34 PM
tec, while I agree with what you're saying, hasn't iwata confirmed to have a master document of a zelda timeline?
yes, but unless nintedo's timeline says something similar to mine then screw them i'm right awdood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Tri4se on August 04, 2011, 11:56:42 PM
Post by: Tri4se on August 04, 2011, 11:56:42 PM
Quote from: Man of Popcikle on August 04, 2011, 06:59:53 PMI'm pretty sure the split timeline is considered canon.
I'm partial to the split timeline theory, which proposes that the timeline splits at Ocarina of Time. Child Link goes on to Majora's Mask and then other stuff, then in an alternate reality, adult Link goes on to do something else.
Anyway, I'm fine with the idea that the games take place within the same existence (save for the split), only with multiple Heroes and centuries apart from each other, though I think that last bit is obvious.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Hiro on August 04, 2011, 11:57:13 PM
Post by: Hiro on August 04, 2011, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on August 04, 2011, 11:27:20 PMhuh? I know kaz didn't come up with it, but it's never been confirmed has it?
(http://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/83055661vs5.png)
i just like the general idea that the Hero's Shade is link from OoT.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Hiro on August 04, 2011, 11:58:07 PM
Post by: Hiro on August 04, 2011, 11:58:07 PM
Quote from: Tri4se on August 04, 2011, 11:56:42 PMi think it is, but I still don't really understand it.
I'm pretty sure the split timeline is considered canon.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Tri4se on August 05, 2011, 12:03:59 AM
Post by: Tri4se on August 05, 2011, 12:03:59 AM
Quote from: Hiro on August 04, 2011, 11:58:07 PMAt the end of Ocarina of Time Zelda sends Adult Link back to live his childhood he never had. This timeline without Link continues on to Windwaker. Link, in the child timeline, warns kid Zelda about Ganondorf, which rewrote the future. He then goes on to Majora's mask. Think of it as an alternate reality type thing.
i think it is, but I still don't really understand it.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 05, 2011, 12:13:28 AM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 05, 2011, 12:13:28 AM
i hate the split timeline theory and if nintendo ever fully acknowledges its existence (and it has come dangerously close to doing so) then i will stop playing zelda smithicide;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Tri4se on August 05, 2011, 12:29:43 AM
Post by: Tri4se on August 05, 2011, 12:29:43 AM
Quote from: Tectrika on August 05, 2011, 12:13:28 AM
i hate the split timeline theory and if nintendo ever fully acknowledges its existence (and it has come dangerously close to doing so) then i will stop playing zelda smithicide;
Quote"When does Twilight Princess take place?
Aonuma: In the world of Ocarina of Time, a hundred and something years later.
"And the Wind Waker?
Aonuma: The Wind Waker is parallel. In Ocarina of Time, Link flew seven years in time, he beat Ganon and went back to being a kid, remember? Twilight Princess takes place in the world of Ocarina of Time, a hundred and something years after the peace returned to kid Link’s time. In the last scene of Ocarina of Time, kids Link and Zelda have a little talk, and as a consequence of that talk, their relationship with Ganon takes a whole new direction. In the middle of this game [Twilight Princess], there's a scene showing Ganon's execution. It was decided that Ganon be executed because he'd do something outrageous if they left him be. That scene takes place several years after Ocarina of Time. Ganon was sent to another world and now he wants to obtain the power...
http://www.thehylia.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1173582355&archive=&start_from=&ucat=19&
Woops, you should have stopped playing a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 05, 2011, 12:38:44 AM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 05, 2011, 12:38:44 AM
that's the quote i was referring to when i said "dangerously close" awdood;
i still have hope it's not the case (http://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/awdood.png)
i still have hope it's not the case (http://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/awdood.png)
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Hiro on August 05, 2011, 12:38:48 AM
Post by: Hiro on August 05, 2011, 12:38:48 AM
Quote from: Tri4se on August 05, 2011, 12:03:59 AMthat's one timeline. what's the other?
At the end of Ocarina of Time Zelda sends Adult Link back to live his childhood he never had. This timeline without Link continues on to Windwaker. Link, in the child timeline, warns kid Zelda about Ganondorf, which rewrote the future. He then goes on to Majora's mask. Think of it as an alternate reality type thing.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 05, 2011, 12:43:32 AM
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 05, 2011, 12:43:32 AM
Quote from: Hiro on August 05, 2011, 12:38:48 AMMajora's Mask
that's one timeline. what's the other?
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on August 05, 2011, 01:00:23 AM
Post by: Nyerp on August 05, 2011, 01:00:23 AM
Quote from: Hiro on August 05, 2011, 12:38:48 AM
that's one timeline. what's the other?
can you read or are you really that retarded
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 05, 2011, 01:05:48 AM
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 05, 2011, 01:05:48 AM
Quote from: Nyerp on August 05, 2011, 01:00:23 AMoh good nyerp is still nyerp. I was worried after snowy's thread.
can you read or are you really that retarded
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Tri4se on August 05, 2011, 03:19:57 AM
Post by: Tri4se on August 05, 2011, 03:19:57 AM
Quote from: Hiro on August 05, 2011, 12:38:48 AM(http://i.imgur.com/ZsnoK.png)
that's one timeline. what's the other?
Dotted line is Zelda sending Link back to his childhood.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Hiro on August 05, 2011, 09:57:08 AM
Post by: Hiro on August 05, 2011, 09:57:08 AM
why does that timeline go from top to bottom? what does the red mean, where link is?
I mean I know what you guys are trying to say, I just don't get why that has to be the case.
I mean I know what you guys are trying to say, I just don't get why that has to be the case.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 05, 2011, 11:57:37 AM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 05, 2011, 11:57:37 AM
zelda, like every other nintendo game in existence, has never needed and never will need an overly complex story like that split timeline silliness smithicide;
Aonuma only got those ideas in his head after hearing from 'fans' who simply don't understand Zelda or Nintendo all that well
(which unfortunately seems to be most Zelda 'fans'), and he's only now considering it to appeal to them. (http://boyah.net/forums/Themes/smokes2/images/post/angry.gif)
Aonuma only got those ideas in his head after hearing from 'fans' who simply don't understand Zelda or Nintendo all that well
(which unfortunately seems to be most Zelda 'fans'), and he's only now considering it to appeal to them. (http://boyah.net/forums/Themes/smokes2/images/post/angry.gif)
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Commander Fuckass on August 05, 2011, 12:56:09 PM
Post by: Commander Fuckass on August 05, 2011, 12:56:09 PM
Metroid Timeline confirmed 4 best timeline
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Tri4se on August 05, 2011, 01:19:05 PM
Post by: Tri4se on August 05, 2011, 01:19:05 PM
Quote from: Hiro on August 05, 2011, 09:57:08 AMBecause I made it that way. The red is the separate timelines. It doesn't have to be the case it's just a popular fan theory.
why does that timeline go from top to bottom? what does the red mean, where link is?
I mean I know what you guys are trying to say, I just don't get why that has to be the case.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Travis on August 05, 2011, 01:24:31 PM
Post by: Travis on August 05, 2011, 01:24:31 PM
the zelda timeline is absolutely retarded
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: bluaki on August 05, 2011, 03:09:57 PM
Post by: bluaki on August 05, 2011, 03:09:57 PM
The timeline with OoT's Adult Link should have Termina completely destroyed by the moon, right? Yet that has absolutely no noticeable effect on Hyrule? Not only that, but the same moon is visible at night as both child and adult and neither of them has a creepy face.
Are Termina and Hyrule on separate planets or something? befuddlement
Are Termina and Hyrule on separate planets or something? befuddlement
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Hiro on August 05, 2011, 03:15:07 PM
Post by: Hiro on August 05, 2011, 03:15:07 PM
Quote from: bluika on August 05, 2011, 03:09:57 PMi think they're alternate dimensions or something along those lines.
The timeline with OoT's Adult Link should have Termina completely destroyed by the moon, right? Yet that has absolutely no noticeable effect on Hyrule? Not only that, but the same moon is visible at night as both child and adult and neither of them has a creepy face.
Are Termina and Hyrule on separate planets or something? befuddlement
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: YPrrrr on August 05, 2011, 03:17:16 PM
Post by: YPrrrr on August 05, 2011, 03:17:16 PM
I just don't think of it as a continuing story and that works for me hocuspocus;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 12, 2011, 02:26:59 AM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 12, 2011, 02:26:59 AM
Quote from: Hiro on August 04, 2011, 11:57:13 PM
i just like the general idea that the Hero's Shade is link from OoT.
could you at least explain why awdood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 12, 2011, 10:53:58 AM
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 12, 2011, 10:53:58 AM
Quote from: Tectrika on August 12, 2011, 02:26:59 AM"You have at last mastered all of the Hidden Skills. Although I accepted life as the hero, I could not convey the lessons of that life to those who came after. At last, I have eased my regrets. You who have marched through countless foes, each mightier than the last... You, who now gaze to the future with vision unclouded... Surely you can restore Hyrule to its stature of yore as the chosen land of the gods... Farewell!... Go and do not falter, my child!"
could you at least explain why awdood;
It's probably not physically Link, but it's likely that it's his spirit or something, as opposed to LINK BECAME A STALFOS
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on August 12, 2011, 11:01:51 AM
Post by: Samus Aran on August 12, 2011, 11:01:51 AM
or just a hero in general
i know "the hero" could mean the designated, hand-picked by the gods hero that Link always is, but it could also just mean...a hero
i know "the hero" could mean the designated, hand-picked by the gods hero that Link always is, but it could also just mean...a hero
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on August 12, 2011, 11:12:06 AM
Post by: Nyerp on August 12, 2011, 11:12:06 AM
also
>link in any way, shape, or form
>talking
>link in any way, shape, or form
>talking
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 12, 2011, 11:13:02 AM
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 12, 2011, 11:13:02 AM
Quote from: Nyerp on August 12, 2011, 11:12:06 AMWell excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me
also
>link in any way, shape, or form
>talking
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on August 12, 2011, 11:18:10 AM
Post by: Nyerp on August 12, 2011, 11:18:10 AM
Quote from: Man of Popcikle on August 12, 2011, 11:13:02 AM
Well excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me
>terrible cartoons
>canon
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on August 12, 2011, 11:18:45 AM
Post by: Samus Aran on August 12, 2011, 11:18:45 AM
Quote from: Nyerp on August 12, 2011, 11:18:10 AM
>terrible cartoons
>canon
you can make me do the duck walk!
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Lex Luthor on August 12, 2011, 12:13:26 PM
Post by: Lex Luthor on August 12, 2011, 12:13:26 PM
real time line
Zelda 1,Zelda 2,A link to the past,Links awakening,
OOT,MM,OOS/OOA,FS,WW,FSA,MC,TP,PH,ST
evidence
the dates bassir;
Zelda 1,Zelda 2,A link to the past,Links awakening,
OOT,MM,OOS/OOA,FS,WW,FSA,MC,TP,PH,ST
evidence
the dates bassir;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 12, 2011, 12:31:22 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 12, 2011, 12:31:22 PM
i absolutely loathe zelda "fans" awdood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: silvertone on August 12, 2011, 01:56:21 PM
Post by: silvertone on August 12, 2011, 01:56:21 PM
Link never obtains enlightenment thus enters the wheel of life after each death. Fucking obvious.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: FAMY2 on August 13, 2011, 08:35:54 AM
Post by: FAMY2 on August 13, 2011, 08:35:54 AM
Quote from: YPR on August 05, 2011, 03:17:16 PM
I just don't think of it as a continuing story and that works for me hocuspocus;
This THIS THIS
It's a mystery (or not) that will (or not) be revealed when the time is right (never). girl;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on October 29, 2011, 01:44:28 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on October 29, 2011, 01:44:28 PM
http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1211067p1.html
aonuma is the worst thing that's ever happened to zelda n_n
aonuma is the worst thing that's ever happened to zelda n_n
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on October 29, 2011, 09:47:16 PM
Post by: Mando Pandango on October 29, 2011, 09:47:16 PM
i wonder what the final fantasy timeline looks like befuddlement
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on October 29, 2011, 09:55:44 PM
Post by: Nyerp on October 29, 2011, 09:55:44 PM
Quote from: ポ--,,ルの" on October 29, 2011, 09:47:16 PM
i wonder what the final fantasy timeline looks like befuddlement
what
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on October 29, 2011, 10:26:05 PM
Post by: Mando Pandango on October 29, 2011, 10:26:05 PM
you know
what games go where in the timeline
what stories come after which
who is cid, really?
what games go where in the timeline
what stories come after which
who is cid, really?
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Commander Fuckass on October 29, 2011, 10:26:23 PM
Post by: Commander Fuckass on October 29, 2011, 10:26:23 PM
Quote from: Sakamoto on October 29, 2011, 09:55:44 PMsrsly
what
there is no specific timeline in Final Fantasy games unless its FFX-pigdisgusting2 or FFXIII-pigdisgusting2
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on October 29, 2011, 11:01:05 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on October 29, 2011, 11:01:05 PM
Quote from: ポ--,,ルの" on October 29, 2011, 10:26:05 PM
you know
what games go where in the timeline
what stories come after which
who is cid, really?
square enix is smart enough to not make some shoddy attempt to force them all together into one big retarded timeline >.<
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on October 29, 2011, 11:44:12 PM
Post by: Mando Pandango on October 29, 2011, 11:44:12 PM
ugh
you guys just don't get it
you guys just don't get it
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on October 30, 2011, 12:18:51 AM
Post by: Nyerp on October 30, 2011, 12:18:51 AM
the timeline splits in ff4 btw
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on October 30, 2011, 11:59:34 AM
Post by: Samus Aran on October 30, 2011, 11:59:34 AM
Quote from: Tectrika on October 29, 2011, 11:01:05 PM
square enix is smart enough to not make some shoddy attempt to force them all together into one big retarded timeline >.<
except when one dude said that 10 and 7 are connected lol
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on October 30, 2011, 12:04:05 PM
Post by: Nyerp on October 30, 2011, 12:04:05 PM
Quote from: Kaz on October 30, 2011, 11:59:34 AM
except when one dude said that 10 and 7 are connected lol
wasn't it just that they took place in the same galaxy/universe or whatever
i pray to god&jesus that they didn't take place on the same planet or some bullshit awdood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: ME## on October 30, 2011, 12:18:20 PM
Post by: ME## on October 30, 2011, 12:18:20 PM
Quote from: Tectrika on October 29, 2011, 11:01:05 PM
square enix is smart enough to not make some shoddy attempt to force them all together into one big retarded timeline >.<
ffxii, fft and vagrant story beg to differ goowan
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on October 30, 2011, 12:20:12 PM
Post by: Nyerp on October 30, 2011, 12:20:12 PM
Quote from: Dovydas on October 30, 2011, 12:18:20 PM
ffxii, fft and vagrant story beg to differ goowan
but that's not a "shoddy attempt"; they all explicitly take place in the same world
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on October 30, 2011, 12:27:58 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on October 30, 2011, 12:27:58 PM
Quote from: Sakamoto on October 30, 2011, 12:04:05 PM
wasn't it just that they took place in the same galaxy/universe or whatever
i pray to god&jesus that they didn't take place on the same planet or some bullshit awdood;
lol i'm not even sure, but i think he said that one's events were distantly connected to the other's somehow
i don't even remember where i read it
Quote from: Sakamoto on October 30, 2011, 12:20:12 PM
but that's not a "shoddy attempt"; they all explicitly take place in the same world
yeah :|
also david you forgot ffta2 lol
ffta doesn't count because it was an "imaginary" ivalice
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: ME## on October 30, 2011, 12:31:15 PM
Post by: ME## on October 30, 2011, 12:31:15 PM
Quote from: Kaz on October 30, 2011, 12:27:58 PM
yeah :|
also david you forgot ffta2 lol
ffta doesn't count because it was an "imaginary" ivalice
n fft includes its sequels, just like ffxii includes its pig disgusting ds sequel ugly;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Thyme on October 30, 2011, 12:32:26 PM
Post by: Thyme on October 30, 2011, 12:32:26 PM
strait outta ivalice
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 04:34:40 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 04:34:40 PM
http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1215301p1.html
Oh boy. ifeelbetter;
Oh boy. ifeelbetter;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 04:38:23 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 04:38:23 PM
Quote from: Tectrinket on December 21, 2011, 04:34:40 PM
http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1215301p1.html
Oh boy. ifeelbetter;
UGH WHAT THE CHRISTING FUCK
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 21, 2011, 04:44:22 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 21, 2011, 04:44:22 PM
Quote from: Tectrinket on December 21, 2011, 04:34:40 PM
http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1215301p1.html
Oh boy. ifeelbetter;
lol
"rofl zelda fans are stupid and so is nintendo" comments aside, i don't even understand how timeline A works. why is oracle between alttp and awakening, exactly? there's nothing in the games to indicate that. nor do i really see why that timeline has to be what happens if link fails to defeat ganon. there's no reason to assume that those games could have only happened if oot ganon wasn't defeated...
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 04:51:51 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 04:51:51 PM
IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING SENSE
NOW WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT EVERY GAME HAS A TIMELINE SPLIT WHERE LINK DOESN'T DEFEAT THE ENEMY HUUURRRR WHAT THE FUCK
FUCK YOU ZELDA FANTARDS AND NINTENDO
NOW WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT EVERY GAME HAS A TIMELINE SPLIT WHERE LINK DOESN'T DEFEAT THE ENEMY HUUURRRR WHAT THE FUCK
FUCK YOU ZELDA FANTARDS AND NINTENDO
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Daddy on December 21, 2011, 04:54:19 PM
Post by: Daddy on December 21, 2011, 04:54:19 PM
What is the point of a third timeline?
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Travis on December 21, 2011, 05:01:24 PM
Post by: Travis on December 21, 2011, 05:01:24 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 04:51:51 PMit actually makes sense. ur being butthurt.
IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING SENSE
NOW WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT EVERY GAME HAS A TIMELINE SPLIT WHERE LINK DOESN'T DEFEAT THE ENEMY HUUURRRR WHAT THE FUCK
FUCK YOU ZELDA FANTARDS AND NINTENDO
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 21, 2011, 05:07:15 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 21, 2011, 05:07:15 PM
Quote from: Travis on December 21, 2011, 05:01:24 PM
it actually makes sense. ur being butthurt.
well no it doesn't really make sense because the games have literally nothing to indicate any sort of "link failed" timeline
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Travis on December 21, 2011, 05:17:11 PM
Post by: Travis on December 21, 2011, 05:17:11 PM
Quote from: Azunyan on December 21, 2011, 05:07:15 PMalright but where are you getting this "link failed" nonsense from akudood;
well no it doesn't really make sense because the games have literally nothing to indicate any sort of "link failed" timeline
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 05:24:48 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 05:24:48 PM
Quote from: Travis on December 21, 2011, 05:17:11 PM
alright but where are you getting this "link failed" nonsense from akudood;
Quote from: IGN.comThe first, which we'll call Timeline A, assumes Link actually fails to stop Ganon.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1215301p1.html
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Travis on December 21, 2011, 05:27:19 PM
Post by: Travis on December 21, 2011, 05:27:19 PM
Quote from: Tectrinket on December 21, 2011, 05:24:48 PMoh yeah i didn't read the article at all but i saw this timeline on a different page
http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1215301p1.html
anyway, the way i understand it is that one timeline is the child link timeline after he's sent back to his childhood, another is the adult link timeline, and the last one is the timeline where ganon takes control of everything while link is asleep for 7 years or something lol akudood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 05:56:18 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 05:56:18 PM
Quote from: Travis on December 21, 2011, 05:27:19 PM
oh yeah i didn't read the article at all but i saw this timeline on a different page
anyway, the way i understand it is that one timeline is the child link timeline after he's sent back to his childhood, another is the adult link timeline, and the last one is the timeline where ganon takes control of everything while link is asleep for 7 years or something lol akudood;
...that's the same timeline older link wakes up in A.K.A. THE ADULT FUCKING LINK TIMELINE psyduck;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Travis on December 21, 2011, 06:03:01 PM
Post by: Travis on December 21, 2011, 06:03:01 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 05:56:18 PMNo it's not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...that's the same timeline older link wakes up in A.K.A. THE ADULT FUCKING LINK TIMELINE psyduck;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 06:06:02 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 06:06:02 PM
could somebody please explain to me what, assuming the split timeline theory is canon, would stop link from simply defeating ganon again and having the exact cycle repeat infinitely after zelda sent link back to the past after defeating him the first time*
[spoiler=*]not that there could be a real "first time" in such a paradox[/spoiler]
[spoiler=*]not that there could be a real "first time" in such a paradox[/spoiler]
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 06:15:12 PM
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 06:15:12 PM
Nintendo's timeline is worse than any "fan" timeline I've ever seen.
For fuck's sake.
For fuck's sake.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 06:15:57 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 06:15:57 PM
Quote from: Tectrinket on December 21, 2011, 06:06:02 PM
could somebody please explain to me what, assuming the split timeline theory is canon, would stop link from simply defeating ganon again and having the exact cycle repeat infinitely after zelda sent link back to the past after defeating him the first time*
[spoiler=*]not that there could be a real "first time" in such a paradox[/spoiler]
uh nothing but why would he do that??????!?!??!
and how wouldn't there be a first time??!?!?!??
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 06:24:53 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 06:24:53 PM
if ganon is still a threat as a result of zelda reversing time, why wouldn't link just defeat him again befuddlement
unless the reason he is no longer a threat is that he's sealed in that realm or whatever which i suppose might not be affected by time or something
in either case, why would the timeline split at all
it doesn't make any sense whatsoever for link to just wander off to termina if ganon is still a threat
unless the reason he is no longer a threat is that he's sealed in that realm or whatever which i suppose might not be affected by time or something
in either case, why would the timeline split at all
it doesn't make any sense whatsoever for link to just wander off to termina if ganon is still a threat
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: don't let's on December 21, 2011, 06:27:54 PM
Post by: don't let's on December 21, 2011, 06:27:54 PM
And this is how Ocarina of Time ruined the Zelda series beyond repair.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 06:29:44 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 06:29:44 PM
Quote from: Tectrinket on December 21, 2011, 06:24:53 PM
if ganon is still a threat as a result of zelda reversing time, why wouldn't link just defeat him again befuddlement
unless the reason he is no longer a threat is that he's sealed in that realm or whatever which i suppose might not be affected by time or something
in either case, why would the timeline split at all
...what
the entire reason zelda sends link back in time is so that he and li'l zelda can prevent ganon from usurping the throne and fucking shit up
then it's seen in twilight princess that he's sealed in the twilight realm as a result of this and blah blah blah
the timeline splits because they create a new series of events that is completely different from what leads up to the final battle of oot...?
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 06:30:37 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 06:30:37 PM
Quote from: Mayhaps… Revelry? on December 21, 2011, 06:27:54 PM
And this is how Ocarina of Time ruined the Zelda series beyond repair.
the fuck are you talking about
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: don't let's on December 21, 2011, 06:31:22 PM
Post by: don't let's on December 21, 2011, 06:31:22 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 06:30:37 PMBecause of time travel making the split timelines
the fuck are you talking about
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 06:32:55 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 06:32:55 PM
Quote from: Mayhaps… Revelry? on December 21, 2011, 06:31:22 PM
Because of time travel making the split timelines
...what does that have to do with the quality of the games?
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: don't let's on December 21, 2011, 06:36:17 PM
Post by: don't let's on December 21, 2011, 06:36:17 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 06:32:55 PMI said "ruined the Zelda series" I never mentioned the quality of the games.
...what does that have to do with the quality of the games?
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 06:36:53 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 06:36:53 PM
i'm so confused
i thought zelda sent him back so he could "regain his lost time"
i don't even care to consider tp or anything post-mm right now, i just want to know the logic behind 'splitting the timeline'
i thought zelda sent him back so he could "regain his lost time"
i don't even care to consider tp or anything post-mm right now, i just want to know the logic behind 'splitting the timeline'
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 06:37:23 PM
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 06:37:23 PM
tec did you ever see back to the future part II
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 07:22:43 PM
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 07:22:43 PM
ugh i just realized
>Link's Awakening on a different timeline from Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass
for fuck's sake nintendo
>Link's Awakening on a different timeline from Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass
for fuck's sake nintendo
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 07:30:04 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 07:30:04 PM
Quote from: Colonel Cold on the Cob on December 21, 2011, 06:37:23 PM
tec did you ever see back to the future part II
no
what happens
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 07:30:28 PM
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 07:30:28 PM
they go back to the future
[spoiler]part ii[/spoiler]
[spoiler]part ii[/spoiler]
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 07:31:23 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 07:31:23 PM
Quote from: Colonel Cold on the Cob on December 21, 2011, 07:22:43 PM
ugh i just realized
>Link's Awakening on a different timeline from Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass
for fuck's sake nintendo
...how could link's awakening possibly be related to ww/ph/st in the first place myface;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 07:32:15 PM
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 07:32:15 PM
Quote from: Tectrinket on December 21, 2011, 07:31:23 PMthe whole time link is dreaming he's shipwrecked on an open sea that used to be hyrule
...how could link's awakening possibly be related to ww/ph/st in the first place myface;
duh goonish
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 07:34:18 PM
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 07:34:18 PM
yes
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 07:39:00 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 07:39:00 PM
Quote from: Colonel Cold on the Cob on December 21, 2011, 07:32:15 PM
the whole time link is dreaming he's shipwrecked on an open sea that used to be hyrule
duh goonish
i lol'd
what on earth
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 07:40:36 PM
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 07:40:36 PM
lmao tec did you ever even beat the game
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBqkLx4AMrg[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBqkLx4AMrg[/youtube]
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 07:43:33 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 07:43:33 PM
i've beaten every zelda but ss
i even got the perfect ending in la
But I don't see the connection. :|
i even got the perfect ending in la
But I don't see the connection. :|
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 07:45:37 PM
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 07:45:37 PM
HE'S ON A BOAT
DUH
DUH
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 07:46:30 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 07:46:30 PM
8/10
you actually had me worried that you were one of those zelda 'fans' for a second :|
you actually had me worried that you were one of those zelda 'fans' for a second :|
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 21, 2011, 07:46:44 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 21, 2011, 07:46:44 PM
lol oh popsi
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 08:08:55 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 08:08:55 PM
the only way i could possibly see the split timeline working is if link left for termina under the assumption that hyrule was safe at the end of oot, but ganon somehow escaped the evil realm or whatever it's called and laid the foundations for wind waker in link's absence (again, while link was under the assumption that hyrule was safe from ganon)
i still don't even know where tp comes in
i still don't even know where tp comes in
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 08:13:22 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 08:13:22 PM
that's wrong
(http://i.imgur.com/ZsnoK.png)
study this there will be a test friday
(http://i.imgur.com/ZsnoK.png)
study this there will be a test friday
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 08:14:10 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 08:14:10 PM
I NEED SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN THIS awdood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 08:15:16 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 08:15:16 PM
the chart explains everything
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 08:17:17 PM
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 08:17:17 PM
honestly i thought i got it but the chart confused me
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 08:18:36 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 08:18:36 PM
i still don't get it at all
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Travis on December 21, 2011, 09:00:24 PM
Post by: Travis on December 21, 2011, 09:00:24 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 08:13:22 PMYou're still missing the third split!!!! :)
that's wrong
(http://i.imgur.com/ZsnoK.png)
study this there will be a test friday
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 09:05:18 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 09:05:18 PM
so let me get this straight (redirecting from kazstream):
at the end of oot, ganon is sealed in the dark realm, no longer a threat to hyrule in the immediate future or in the past, and this is why young link feels safe leaving for termina to find this "friend" of his
and some time later, long after the events of oot and mm when link is no longer around or able to protect hyrule, ganon gets loose and sets the stage for wind waker ????
that seems like a serious stretch
and even if that is the case, i still don't see where the timeline "splits" because if what i'm saying is correct then it could still just directly go oot -> mm -> ww
at the end of oot, ganon is sealed in the dark realm, no longer a threat to hyrule in the immediate future or in the past, and this is why young link feels safe leaving for termina to find this "friend" of his
and some time later, long after the events of oot and mm when link is no longer around or able to protect hyrule, ganon gets loose and sets the stage for wind waker ????
that seems like a serious stretch
and even if that is the case, i still don't see where the timeline "splits" because if what i'm saying is correct then it could still just directly go oot -> mm -> ww
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 09:19:33 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 09:19:33 PM
on second thought, that's not really a stretch at all
it's what i've thought all along
it's simple enough and it doesn't require a split timeline theory to explain
it's what i've thought all along
it's simple enough and it doesn't require a split timeline theory to explain
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 09:21:00 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 09:21:00 PM
tecccccc you're missing something easy heeeeeere
majora's mask DOESN'T LEAD into wind waker according to this theory
the timeline split happens at the very second link arrives back in the past due to zelda's fuckery
the timeline where zelda has just sent link back and sealed ganon continues to exist parallel to the one where link is a kid again and runs off to termina
majora's mask DOESN'T LEAD into wind waker according to this theory
the timeline split happens at the very second link arrives back in the past due to zelda's fuckery
the timeline where zelda has just sent link back and sealed ganon continues to exist parallel to the one where link is a kid again and runs off to termina
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: ncba93ivyase on December 21, 2011, 09:26:12 PM
Post by: ncba93ivyase on December 21, 2011, 09:26:12 PM
It makes perfect sense to me
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 09:27:18 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 09:27:18 PM
Quote from: Pancake Persona on December 21, 2011, 09:26:12 PM
It makes perfect sense to me
the split timeline theory or nintendo's new timeline bullshit?
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 09:27:35 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 09:27:35 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 09:21:00 PM
tecccccc you're missing something easy heeeeeere
majora's mask DOESN'T LEAD into wind waker according to this theory
the timeline split happens at the very second link arrives back in the past due to zelda's fuckery
the timeline where zelda has just sent link back and sealed ganon continues to exist parallel to the one where link is a kid again and runs off to termina
but even so, why does the adult timeline matter at all lol
couldn't all subsequent games could fit comfortably into young link's timeline, i don't see why adult link's timeline is significant or even how it could be
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 09:30:05 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 09:30:05 PM
[spoiler]unless the assumption is that ganon gets loose in both timelines separately ???[/spoiler]
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 09:34:43 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 09:34:43 PM
no; because the events mentioned in the intro of wind waker don't match up with the events of tp the fans assumed it was because of the split, thus leading them to draw the conclusion that the wind waker was a result of that unexplored branch of the split timeline
ugh
yeah it's kind of a pile of shit and nintendo just inadvertently complicates it every time they release a post-oot game, but it's not complete nonsense awdood;
ugh
yeah it's kind of a pile of shit and nintendo just inadvertently complicates it every time they release a post-oot game, but it's not complete nonsense awdood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 09:38:04 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 09:38:04 PM
Quote from: Tectrinket on December 21, 2011, 09:30:05 PM
[spoiler]unless the assumption is that ganon gets loose in both timelines separately ???[/spoiler]
he gets loose from two completely different places in tp and ww...does that help???
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 09:38:39 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 09:38:39 PM
i'm trying not to take tp into consideration because it was just sort of squeezed in the middle and i feel as if that game was made specifically to cater to idiot 'fans' of the timeline theory
But ignoring TP, isn't only one timeline necessary to explain everything? befuddlement
just one would explain the progression from oot to mm to ww to ph to st right lol
But ignoring TP, isn't only one timeline necessary to explain everything? befuddlement
just one would explain the progression from oot to mm to ww to ph to st right lol
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 09:40:02 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 09:40:02 PM
i guess my point is that there is absolutely no evidence, as far as i can tell, that would support a split timeline theory if tp is removed from the equation (and what i'm wondering is if i'm correct about that)
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 09:44:16 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 09:44:16 PM
well yeah okay but tp still happened????????
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 09:49:04 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 09:49:04 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 09:44:16 PM
well yeah okay but tp still happened????????
So what's the basis for the split timeline theory if it all could have been explained by one timeline before TP?
it's def. been around for far longer than tp's been around
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 09:49:42 PM
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 09:49:42 PM
the basis is nintendo caved into peer pressure
deal w/ it
deal w/ it
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 09:51:09 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 09:51:09 PM
Quote from: Colonel Cold on the Cob on December 21, 2011, 09:49:42 PM
the basis is nintendo caved into peer pressure
deal w/ it
but what's the fan basis lol
how did they come to the conclusion that the timeline must have been split if all the events could have been explained by one perfectly linear timeline
(not that i expect you or anyone else to know the answer to this)
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 09:53:34 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 09:53:34 PM
Quote from: Tectrinket on December 21, 2011, 09:49:04 PM
So what's the basis for the split timeline theory if it all could have been explained by one timeline before TP?
it's def. been around for far longer than tp's been around
because there are 2 possible timelines that oot leaves us with
that's it
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 09:59:00 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 09:59:00 PM
i don't understand that logic at all
so 'fans' just saw an unused potential timeline and decided it'd be cool if it were full of shit ???
so 'fans' just saw an unused potential timeline and decided it'd be cool if it were full of shit ???
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 10:00:20 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 10:00:20 PM
Quote from: Tectrinket on December 21, 2011, 09:59:00 PM
i don't understand that logic at all
so fans just saw an unused potential timeline and decided it'd be cool if it were full of shit ???
yes
because they're sperglord fantards who look way too far into children's fiction
that's it
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 10:02:01 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 10:02:01 PM
...and this is the senseless, unfounded dribble that tp, ss, and the now official zelda timeline are all based on
wow
wow
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 10:03:49 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 10:03:49 PM
ss has nothing to do with this theory at all though lol
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 10:09:04 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 10:09:04 PM
SS manages to sidestep all of the timeline nonsense?
This is good news. dittodood;
overall i'm still extremely disappointed that nintendo would take a theory that makes absolutely no sense and base their games on it for the sake of 'fans' who obviously can't think coherently and don't quite understand nintendo's development style
and i now fear for the future of the series
This is good news. dittodood;
overall i'm still extremely disappointed that nintendo would take a theory that makes absolutely no sense and base their games on it for the sake of 'fans' who obviously can't think coherently and don't quite understand nintendo's development style
and i now fear for the future of the series
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 10:10:47 PM
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 21, 2011, 10:10:47 PM
Well no, SS just manages to sidestep the split timeline bullshit by being the first game in the timeline.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 10:13:28 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 21, 2011, 10:13:28 PM
yeah uh ss goes to great lengths to make SURE you know that it's a prequel to the rest of the series lol
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 10:49:01 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 21, 2011, 10:49:01 PM
Quote from: Mayhaps… Revelry? on December 21, 2011, 06:27:54 PM
And this is how Ocarina of Time ruined the Zelda series beyond repair.
honestly oot isn't to blame
it makes perfect sense and there is no indication anywhere that there needs to be any sort of timeline splitting
it's just that 'fans' saw a crevice they could stuff with their idiotic fanfics and did exactly that awdood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Hiro on December 22, 2011, 01:02:54 AM
Post by: Hiro on December 22, 2011, 01:02:54 AM
You guys are terrible at explaining this. Tec, the timeline doesn't split because fans decided it should. The reason the timeline splits is because there is one world in OoT where Link disappears for 7 years, Ganondorf takes over, Link returns and defeats Ganon. The other timeline is created in the end of OoT where Link returns to the past and him and Zelda presumably stop Ganondorf there, preventing the previously mentioned series of events from happening. With this, Link leaves for Termina. This version is mentioned in TP, while in the other version Link is not there after defeating Ganon, allowing Ganon to somehow return, leading to Wind Waker.
Now I agree that that's all a bunch of bullshit and it hardly makes any sense. This allegedly real timeline is pretty damn stupid as well and they could have easily moved a few things around to make it one timeline, but honestly I don't think even Nintendo cares all that much about the timeline, they just want to somehow make things follow an order but it's not like the games are really being forced to fit into any area of a greater story, it's more like they just make a game and then fit it in later where it most makes sense, with the exceptions of the direct sequels.
Still, if this timeline really is true then there's a hell of a lot of stuff they can put between Skyward Sword and OoT, as well as after Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks, Link's Awakening, Zelda II, Majora's Mask, or FSA. Again, basically anywhere that's not a direct sequel. Still not following the 3 branches idea though, I feel like that aspect was somehow mistranslated or something. ALttP can easily come after FSA, and really most of these games seem randomly-placed aside from the much-discussed OoT/MM/TP/WW/etc fork and having SS as the first.
Now I agree that that's all a bunch of bullshit and it hardly makes any sense. This allegedly real timeline is pretty damn stupid as well and they could have easily moved a few things around to make it one timeline, but honestly I don't think even Nintendo cares all that much about the timeline, they just want to somehow make things follow an order but it's not like the games are really being forced to fit into any area of a greater story, it's more like they just make a game and then fit it in later where it most makes sense, with the exceptions of the direct sequels.
Still, if this timeline really is true then there's a hell of a lot of stuff they can put between Skyward Sword and OoT, as well as after Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks, Link's Awakening, Zelda II, Majora's Mask, or FSA. Again, basically anywhere that's not a direct sequel. Still not following the 3 branches idea though, I feel like that aspect was somehow mistranslated or something. ALttP can easily come after FSA, and really most of these games seem randomly-placed aside from the much-discussed OoT/MM/TP/WW/etc fork and having SS as the first.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Hiro on December 22, 2011, 01:06:38 AM
Post by: Hiro on December 22, 2011, 01:06:38 AM
Legend of Zelda Windwalker FAQ
The Legend of Zelda: Windwalker is the sixth game in the Legend of Zelda series. This game does not take place in Hyrule, as previous games do. It is set on a group on islands on a large ocean and the protagonist goes from island to island in search of clues to the mystery of the Triforce.
Is it Windwalker or Wind Waker?
It is Wind Waker. The initial title of the game was Windwalker, but later changed to Wind Waker. Some Japanese copies have copies translated as Windwalker.
Do you Play Link?
Yes, but not the traditional Link from the other games. This Link lives with his sister and grandmother.
What is the Wind Waker?
It is a baton that changes the direction of the wind. It comes in handy throughout the game, particularly when you are on the boat traveling from island to island.
Is Ganon or Ganondorf Back?
Yes. Ganondorf comes back, though the original Link does not. He is the antagonist.
Is Zelda in this Game?
No. It is Link's sister that must be saved and not Zelda. She doesn't make an appearance anywhere, but is merely mentioned.
When does the Game Take Place?
It is set hundreds of years after the events of Ocarina of Time. There are many allusions to Ocarina of Time in Wind Waker.
The Legend of Zelda: Windwalker is the sixth game in the Legend of Zelda series. This game does not take place in Hyrule, as previous games do. It is set on a group on islands on a large ocean and the protagonist goes from island to island in search of clues to the mystery of the Triforce.
Is it Windwalker or Wind Waker?
It is Wind Waker. The initial title of the game was Windwalker, but later changed to Wind Waker. Some Japanese copies have copies translated as Windwalker.
Do you Play Link?
Yes, but not the traditional Link from the other games. This Link lives with his sister and grandmother.
What is the Wind Waker?
It is a baton that changes the direction of the wind. It comes in handy throughout the game, particularly when you are on the boat traveling from island to island.
Is Ganon or Ganondorf Back?
Yes. Ganondorf comes back, though the original Link does not. He is the antagonist.
Is Zelda in this Game?
No. It is Link's sister that must be saved and not Zelda. She doesn't make an appearance anywhere, but is merely mentioned.
When does the Game Take Place?
It is set hundreds of years after the events of Ocarina of Time. There are many allusions to Ocarina of Time in Wind Waker.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 01:07:23 AM
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 01:07:23 AM
Quote from: Hiroglyph on December 22, 2011, 01:02:54 AM
You guys are terrible at explaining this. Tec, the timeline doesn't split because fans decided it should. The reason the timeline splits is because there is one world in OoT where Link disappears for 7 years, Ganondorf takes over, Link returns and defeats Ganon. The other timeline is created in the end of OoT where Link returns to the past and him and Zelda presumably stop Ganondorf there, preventing the previously mentioned series of events from happening. With this, Link leaves for Termina. This version is mentioned in TP, while in the other version Link is not there after defeating Ganon, allowing Ganon to somehow return, leading to Wind Waker.
i basically said all of this
yes, the timeline did "split" there according to the game's plot but it's pretty damn obvious that nintendo didn't originally intend for it to become actually incorporated into the series and just caved into the fans' whining, just like they did with this awful new mess of a timeline
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 22, 2011, 01:16:12 AM
Post by: Mando Pandango on December 22, 2011, 01:16:12 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Ub22E.png)
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Hiro on December 22, 2011, 01:17:29 AM
Post by: Hiro on December 22, 2011, 01:17:29 AM
Quote from: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 01:07:23 AMI know you said it all but it didn't seem like tec really understood it
i basically said all of this
yes, the timeline did "split" there according to the game's plot but it's pretty damn obvious that nintendo didn't originally intend for it to become actually incorporated into the series and just caved into the fans' whining, just like they did with this awful new mess of a timeline
i think the very idea of them making a timeline is them caving into fans whining so there's that goodjob;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on December 22, 2011, 01:18:53 AM
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on December 22, 2011, 01:18:53 AM
wait so where did tingle come from.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Hiro on December 22, 2011, 01:24:51 AM
Post by: Hiro on December 22, 2011, 01:24:51 AM
Quote from: Colonel Cold on the Cob on December 22, 2011, 01:16:12 AMThat's fucking terrible.
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/Ub22E.png)[/spoiler]
If the absence of Link in #3 let Ganon take over, why was his absence in #1 taken care of by the sages? Also, nothing ever says that happens for #1. The entire reason Link is gone for 7 years is BECAUSE the sages held him there. He never skips forward in time, he only gets held in another realm in a "sleep" or something, and then time travels BACK in time. Even if he did go forward in time, he goes to the point in time where Ganondorf has taken over, only to stop him. That doesn't somehow make a version where Ganondorf takes over and Link DOESN'T come out the other end of time-travel to stop him, that's just going into completely useless multiple dimension theories that have nothing to do with anything.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: snoorkel on December 22, 2011, 01:59:26 AM
Post by: snoorkel on December 22, 2011, 01:59:26 AM
guys... Link's Awakening came first, all other 'timelines' non-continuous from that are simply other unrealized bubble universes inside the Wind Fish's / Triforce's / Golden Realm's potential memory, playing out backwards or forwards in different 'parallel universes' (this is why there appear to be many Links, many Zeldas, many Ganons, the same events recurring in every parallel) ... Link's Awakening itself is only a dream and doesn't represent any 'real' timeline or event that ever happened, only one variant of an archetypal tale of heroism and good/evil imagined by countless aspiring young men throughout the ages.
this does open the question, though, of what/where the original 'land of time' was and what went on there to impregnate the following hundreds of generations with these phylogenic archetypes that seem to so be dreamed about so easily. possibly one of the zelda games really is about that 'real' time, when the 'original' ganon, triforce, and sages were in hyrule?
this does open the question, though, of what/where the original 'land of time' was and what went on there to impregnate the following hundreds of generations with these phylogenic archetypes that seem to so be dreamed about so easily. possibly one of the zelda games really is about that 'real' time, when the 'original' ganon, triforce, and sages were in hyrule?
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 08:19:21 AM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 08:19:21 AM
Quote from: Hiroglyph on December 22, 2011, 01:02:54 AM
You guys are terrible at explaining this. Tec, the timeline doesn't split because fans decided it should. The reason the timeline splits is because there is one world in OoT where Link disappears for 7 years, Ganondorf takes over, Link returns and defeats Ganon. The other timeline is created in the end of OoT where Link returns to the past and him and Zelda presumably stop Ganondorf there, preventing the previously mentioned series of events from happening. With this, Link leaves for Termina. This version is mentioned in TP, while in the other version Link is not there after defeating Ganon, allowing Ganon to somehow return, leading to Wind Waker.
i understand that, but like nyerp said it's obvious that nintendo never intended for the first timeline to split off on its own (it doesn't make any sense whatsoever to place any of the current games there)
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 08:19:40 AM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 08:19:40 AM
Quote from: Hiroglyph on December 22, 2011, 01:06:38 AM
Legend of Zelda Windwalker FAQ
The Legend of Zelda: Windwalker is the sixth game in the Legend of Zelda series. This game does not take place in Hyrule, as previous games do. It is set on a group on islands on a large ocean and the protagonist goes from island to island in search of clues to the mystery of the Triforce.
Is it Windwalker or Wind Waker?
It is Wind Waker. The initial title of the game was Windwalker, but later changed to Wind Waker. Some Japanese copies have copies translated as Windwalker.
Do you Play Link?
Yes, but not the traditional Link from the other games. This Link lives with his sister and grandmother.
What is the Wind Waker?
It is a baton that changes the direction of the wind. It comes in handy throughout the game, particularly when you are on the boat traveling from island to island.
Is Ganon or Ganondorf Back?
Yes. Ganondorf comes back, though the original Link does not. He is the antagonist.
Is Zelda in this Game?
No. It is Link's sister that must be saved and not Zelda. She doesn't make an appearance anywhere, but is merely mentioned.
When does the Game Take Place?
It is set hundreds of years after the events of Ocarina of Time. There are many allusions to Ocarina of Time in Wind Waker.
lolwaht
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 08:27:36 AM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 08:27:36 AM
Quote from: Colonel Cold on the Cob on December 22, 2011, 01:16:12 AM
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/Ub22E.png)[/spoiler]
1. where or when is it ever even implied that could possibly have happened
ganon has seven years to roam around freely in link's absence but once that time is up, link returns to put an end to his shenanigans
nothing in oot ever suggests that 1 could have happened, THE LAST THING WE NEED IS MORE WORTHLESS FAN SPECULATION
2. ?????
3. nothing about wind waker requires it to take place in an alternate timeline
the oot -> mm -> ww sequence still fits perfectly into a single timeline
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: ME## on December 22, 2011, 08:41:25 AM
Post by: ME## on December 22, 2011, 08:41:25 AM
time to pack up and admit defeat with zelda. here's to hoping that nintendo plans a timeline for its next series.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 08:45:14 AM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 08:45:14 AM
Quote from: Dovydas on December 22, 2011, 08:41:25 AM
time to pack up and admit defeat with zelda. here's to hoping that nintendo plans a timeline for its next series.
i agree with the first sentence
however i hope nintendo realizes this is a disaster and never attempts to create a timeline for anything ever again
nintendo games aren't ever designed to be story-heavy in the first place awdood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 08:47:23 AM
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 08:47:23 AM
Quote from: Colonel Cold on the Cob on December 22, 2011, 01:16:12 AM
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/Ub22E.png)[/spoiler]
How is the future in #3 without link? He defeated Ganon in the future and went back in time, presumably to age as normally. Why would there be no link in the future once link returns to the past where he can age as an adult and exist in the future again?
Quote from: Tectrinket on December 22, 2011, 08:45:14 AMI thought the timeline existed for a long time as an internal document.
i agree with the first sentence
however i hope nintendo realizes this is a disaster and never attempts to create a timeline for anything ever again
nintendo games aren't ever designed to be story-heavy in the first place awdood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 08:51:15 AM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 08:51:15 AM
Quote from: Khadafi on December 22, 2011, 08:47:23 AM
I thought the timeline existed for a long time as an internal document.
i can guarantee you it didn't exist until they read some ridiculous fanfics awdood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 11:48:05 AM
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 11:48:05 AM
Quote from: Khadafi on December 22, 2011, 08:47:23 AM
How is the future in #3 without link? He defeated Ganon in the future and went back in time, presumably to age as normally. Why would there be no link in the future once link returns to the past where he can age as an adult and exist in the future again?
zelda sent link back in time
he's physically gone from that timeline where ganon has been defeated
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Travis on December 22, 2011, 01:29:19 PM
Post by: Travis on December 22, 2011, 01:29:19 PM
Quote from: Khadafi on December 22, 2011, 08:47:23 AMya but this time around he's not the hero of time ;)
How is the future in #3 without link? He defeated Ganon in the future and went back in time, presumably to age as normally. Why would there be no link in the future once link returns to the past where he can age as an adult and exist in the future again?
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Commander Fuckass on December 22, 2011, 01:43:28 PM
Post by: Commander Fuckass on December 22, 2011, 01:43:28 PM
Metroid's timeline works really well
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 01:47:20 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 01:47:20 PM
Quote from: Kefka on December 22, 2011, 01:43:28 PM
Metroid's timeline works really well
...okay? psyduck;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: ME## on December 22, 2011, 02:00:49 PM
Post by: ME## on December 22, 2011, 02:00:49 PM
Quote from: Kefka on December 22, 2011, 01:43:28 PM
Metroid's timeline works really well
until team ninja sends adam to the future and sends him back to be a kid
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Commander Fuckass on December 22, 2011, 02:10:29 PM
Post by: Commander Fuckass on December 22, 2011, 02:10:29 PM
Quote from: Dovydas on December 22, 2011, 02:00:49 PMffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuu smithicide;
until team ninja sends adam to the future and sends him back to be a kid
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 02:16:05 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 02:16:05 PM
Quote from: Kefka on December 22, 2011, 01:43:28 PM
Metroid's timeline works really well
that's because the games actually openly reference each other and everything's always been clear just from playing the games, and it's just a series that works better with timeline stuff
Quote from: Dovydas on December 22, 2011, 02:00:49 PM
until team ninja sends adam to the future and sends him back to be a kid
Metroid: Adam of Time (first Metroid in timeline)
After this game: Timeline 1/Timeline 2
Timeline 1: (Adam is a child, grows up) Every Metroid game follows
Timeline 2: (Adam doesn't exist) ???? NO GAMES HERE. YET.
So actually that doesn't mess anything up. Yet. goowan
[spoiler]brb killing myself[/spoiler]
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: silvertone on December 22, 2011, 02:17:06 PM
Post by: silvertone on December 22, 2011, 02:17:06 PM
the Hedge fund of zelda..
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 02:19:20 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 02:19:20 PM
the metroid effect: adam kills himslef in teh womb
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: ME## on December 22, 2011, 02:25:07 PM
Post by: ME## on December 22, 2011, 02:25:07 PM
nintendo makes a mario game where it sends luigi to the past to kill bowser before he even meets mario
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Commander Fuckass on December 22, 2011, 02:40:45 PM
Post by: Commander Fuckass on December 22, 2011, 02:40:45 PM
Quote from: Dovydas on December 22, 2011, 02:25:07 PMmy brain exploded
nintendo makes a mario game where it sends lugi to the past to kill bowser before he even meets mario
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 02:45:03 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 02:45:03 PM
what i don't get is that apparently bowser was literally killed at some point because in luigi's mansion he was "revived" as a sort of doppelganger by king boo
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 02:46:06 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 02:46:06 PM
mario kills him every time he's a final boss goowan
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 02:46:25 PM
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 02:46:25 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 11:48:05 AMwhy
zelda sent link back in time
he's physically gone from that timeline where ganon has been defeated
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 02:47:26 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 02:47:26 PM
Quote from: Snowy on December 22, 2011, 02:45:33 PM
Wasn't it just a suit? confuseddood;
maybe but madame clairvoya says something like "i thought bowser had been swiftly defeated by mario!" and was surprised to see bowser in a vision. to me that always struck me as saying that bowser was supposedly defeated permanently. as in with death. but maybe not. it's vague.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 02:48:43 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 02:48:43 PM
Quote from: Khadafi on December 22, 2011, 02:46:25 PM
why
what do you mean why? it goes without saying. the game itself tells you that link was sent back to his original timeline, when he was a child. even without all this nonsense, that much was already obvious.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 02:52:39 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 02:52:39 PM
Quote from: Snowy on December 22, 2011, 02:51:30 PM
I took it as that until I found out he was a suit.
even if it was a suit, that doesn't mean bowser wasn't dead. and nothing in the game mentioned a suit.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 02:53:13 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 02:53:13 PM
zelda went back in time to feed metroid's pregnant mother meat when he found out that he (metroid) was a girl
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 02:53:43 PM
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 02:53:43 PM
Quote from: Azunyan on December 22, 2011, 02:48:43 PMBut where did the child link go in that timeline if he was sent back to it?
what do you mean why? it goes without saying. the game itself tells you that link was sent back to his original timeline, when he was a child. even without all this nonsense, that much was already obvious.
Does he die as a teenager ;__;
Clearly some things in the past affect the future timeline like the well being drained (or Saria being a sage as can be seen by her still being in the end credits) so I don't see how Link living a normal childhood would prevent him from existing as an adult in that same timeline. It's not really "time travel" when he turns to an adult but rather being sealed away for 7 years so he always ages in that timeline. The time travel portion is more when he goes back in time.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 02:53:57 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 02:53:57 PM
Quote from: Tectrinket on December 22, 2011, 02:53:13 PM
zelda went back in time to feed metroid's pregnant mother meat when he found out that she (metroid) was a girl
i love you
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 02:54:04 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 02:54:04 PM
Quote from: Tectrinket on December 22, 2011, 02:53:13 PM
zelda went back in time to feed metroid's pregnant mother meat when he found out that she (metroid) was a girl
FB was Father Brain
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 02:55:59 PM
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 02:55:59 PM
Then what about Donkey Kong == Cranky Kong and then the new Donkey Kong = Donkey Kong Jr. WHERE DOES TAHT FIT IN
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 02:56:19 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 02:56:19 PM
i think it's time to stop
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 02:57:22 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 02:57:22 PM
Quote from: Khadafi on December 22, 2011, 02:53:43 PM
But where did the child link go in that timeline if he was sent back to it?
Does he die as a teenager ;__;
Clearly some things in the past affect the future timeline like the well being drained (or Saria being a sage as can be seen by her still being in the end credits) so I don't see how Link living a normal childhood would prevent him from existing as an adult in that same timeline. It's not really "time travel" when he turns to an adult but rather being sealed away for 7 years so he always ages in that timeline. The time travel portion is more when he goes back in time.
Right, the time travel portion is when he goes back in time. Like he does at the end of the game. Link disappears from the future, going back to where he belongs. The "present," as a child.
Child link, in his rightful timeline, inadvertently goes to Termina when trying to find Navi. What happens after that? Just look it up in the timeline thing.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 02:59:53 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 02:59:53 PM
Quote from: Snowy on December 22, 2011, 02:55:34 PM
When you fought him as bowser, doesn't he come out of a suit after hitting him with the balls a few times? confuseddood;
Considering it's King Boo, who has basically magical powers, and is himself undead, I don't think it's exactly farfetched to say that it might not be a suit, and might literally be Bowser back from the dead. Just because King Boo is inside it doesn't mean it's a suit. It moves on its own while King Boo is outside of it, after all. The head floats around and shit. It might be the ghost of Bowser. It might just be an imitation of Bowser. It might be a suit. But it isn't definitely a suit.
Either way that still doesn't change that Madame Clairvoya makes it sound like the real Bowser is dead.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 03:03:17 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: Snowy on December 22, 2011, 03:02:00 PM
Spirit of Bowser with Kingboo inside.
for some reason this strange use and lack of caps made me lol
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: ME## on December 22, 2011, 03:18:53 PM
Post by: ME## on December 22, 2011, 03:18:53 PM
twinkle popopo is sent into the future to do, um, idk whatever that thing has to do, then sent back to its childhood
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 03:20:05 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 03:20:05 PM
i laughed at "Kingboo"
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Hiro on December 22, 2011, 03:23:39 PM
Post by: Hiro on December 22, 2011, 03:23:39 PM
Quote from: Tectrinket on December 22, 2011, 08:27:36 AMyeah, for the longest time I thought link going to termina in mm was the "hero leaving" referred to in the prologue in ww
3. nothing about wind waker requires it to take place in an alternate timeline
the oot -> mm -> ww sequence stil fits perfectly into a single timeline
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 03:26:20 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 03:26:20 PM
so how the heck did the split timeline theory ever become so popular in the first place if the progression from oot to mm to ww could always have been easily explained with a single timeline
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 03:32:03 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 03:32:03 PM
Quote from: Hiroglyph on December 22, 2011, 03:23:39 PM
yeah, for the longest time I thought link going to termina in mm was the "hero leaving" referred to in the prologue in ww
me too
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Thyme on December 22, 2011, 03:37:07 PM
Post by: Thyme on December 22, 2011, 03:37:07 PM
Quote from: Azunyan on December 22, 2011, 03:32:03 PM
me too
...is it incorrect to still think that? confuseddood;
i still think that
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 03:42:58 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 03:42:58 PM
Quote from: Thyme on December 22, 2011, 03:37:07 PM
...is it incorrect to still think that? confuseddood;
it is now smithicide;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 03:44:12 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 03:44:12 PM
i used to think that but now i'm not sure it's very likely
that's what i think, though exactly how or why ganon could or would "get loose" is never explained in any game aside from ww's brief intro
Quote from: Tectrinket on December 21, 2011, 09:05:18 PM
at the end of oot, ganon is sealed in the dark realm, no longer a threat to hyrule in the immediate future or in the past, and this is why young link feels safe leaving for termina to find this "friend" of his
and some time later, long after the events of oot and mm when link is no longer around or able to protect hyrule, ganon gets loose and sets the stage for wind waker
that's what i think, though exactly how or why ganon could or would "get loose" is never explained in any game aside from ww's brief intro
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 03:44:54 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 03:44:54 PM
actually no that theory was just plain debunked after tp came out n_u
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 03:47:33 PM
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 03:47:33 PM
hero of time ruins the timeline.
Has anyone actually seen pictures of the book's supposed timeline?
Has anyone actually seen pictures of the book's supposed timeline?
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 03:47:49 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 03:47:49 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 03:44:54 PM
actually no that theory was just plain debunked after tp came out n_u
i've been speaking in pre-tp terms this entire thread lol (because tp is a retroactive prequel based on fan idiocy)
I'm only here to find out how or why the timeline theory garnered so many fans if, pre-TP, OoT and its sequels could all have fit into a single timeline. >.<
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 03:49:55 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 03:49:55 PM
we've gone over this
can this thread please stop going in circles
can this thread please stop going in circles
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 03:52:49 PM
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 03:52:49 PM
what how is tp a prequel
also regarding skyward sword
[spoiler]WHY DOES THE FUCKING TIME TRAVEL IN THIS GAME NOT FUCKING CREATE A SPLIT TIMELINE. LINK ACTUALLY GOES BACK IN FUCKING TIME TO CHANGE THE PAST IN THIS TIMELINE[/spoiler]
also regarding skyward sword
[spoiler]WHY DOES THE FUCKING TIME TRAVEL IN THIS GAME NOT FUCKING CREATE A SPLIT TIMELINE. LINK ACTUALLY GOES BACK IN FUCKING TIME TO CHANGE THE PAST IN THIS TIMELINE[/spoiler]
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 04:00:31 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 04:00:31 PM
Quote from: Khadafi on December 22, 2011, 03:52:49 PM
what how is tp a prequel
it's been stated canonically to take place between oot/mm and ww
Quotealso regarding skyward sword
[spoiler]WHY DOES THE FUCKING TIME TRAVEL IN THIS GAME NOT FUCKING CREATE A SPLIT TIMELINE. LINK ACTUALLY GOES BACK IN FUCKING TIME TO CHANGE THE PAST IN THIS TIMELINE[/spoiler]
oh my god seriously
this is just like that awful post from outsider i quoted in the skyward sword thread
it doesn't create a "split timeline" because nintendo does not fucking care about making 100% coherent plots and the only reason the oot split is now apparently considered canon is that the fans fucking whined
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 04:08:42 PM
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 04:08:42 PM
But ganon dies in TP HOW IS HE BACK IN WW @_@
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 04:19:30 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 04:19:30 PM
either it's in a ~different timeline hurrr~ or it's good ol' anime magic
either way who gives a fuck i mean really
either way who gives a fuck i mean really
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 04:20:38 PM
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 04:20:38 PM
i do.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 04:23:07 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 04:23:07 PM
Zelda II makes it pretty plain to see that there are ways to revive Ganon from death.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 04:33:02 PM
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 04:33:02 PM
But his return was due to the seal being broken and not being revived. madood;
The sealing of Ganon in WW and TP are described differently where the former seems to be that in OoT while the latter is after a trial. akudood;
The sealing of Ganon in WW and TP are described differently where the former seems to be that in OoT while the latter is after a trial. akudood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 04:45:59 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 04:45:59 PM
Quote from: Khadafi on December 22, 2011, 04:33:02 PM
But his return was due to the seal being broken and not being revived. madood;
wat, no, Ganon was killed at the end of the original Zelda
his followers attempted to bring him back in Zelda II by using Link's blood, which is why Ganon is brought back to life if you get a game over
Quote from: Khadafi on December 22, 2011, 04:33:02 PM
The sealing of Ganon in WW and TP are described differently where the former seems to be that in OoT while the latter is after a trial. akudood;
what does that have to do with anything
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 04:48:16 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 04:48:16 PM
Quote from: Azunyan on December 22, 2011, 04:45:59 PM
his followers attempted to bring him back in Zelda II by using Link's blood, which is why Ganon is brought back to life if you get a game over
i lol'd at this because it relates pretty heavily to that third timeline.........
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 04:49:24 PM
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 04:49:24 PM
Because I was talking about TP being a prequel to WW and you brought up Zelda II's revival of him where no mention of bringing Ganon back is anywhere in WW
In both games his return was due to his breaking a seal. If he dies in TP and TP is a prequel to WW how does he break a seal as described in OOT for his return in WW when his previous seal in TP was completely different than WW?
idk why you brought up zelda II other than saying it's possible to bring him back to life then ask how me mentioning tp and ww has to do with anything.
In both games his return was due to his breaking a seal. If he dies in TP and TP is a prequel to WW how does he break a seal as described in OOT for his return in WW when his previous seal in TP was completely different than WW?
idk why you brought up zelda II other than saying it's possible to bring him back to life then ask how me mentioning tp and ww has to do with anything.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 04:54:35 PM
Post by: Daddy on December 22, 2011, 04:54:35 PM
Quote from: Khadafi on December 22, 2011, 04:08:42 PM
But ganon dies in TP HOW IS HE BACK IN WW @_@
Quote from: Azunyan on December 22, 2011, 04:23:07 PM
Zelda II makes it pretty plain to see that there are ways to revive Ganon from death.
Quote from: Khadafi on December 22, 2011, 04:33:02 PM
But his return [in wind waker] was due to the seal being broken and not being revived. madood;
The sealing of Ganon in WW and TP are described differently where the former seems to be that in OoT while the latter is after a trial. akudood;
Quote from: Azunyan on December 22, 2011, 04:45:59 PM
wat, no, Ganon was killed at the end of the original Zelda
his followers attempted to bring him back in Zelda II by using Link's blood, which is why Ganon is brought back to life if you get a game over
what does that have to do with anything
Just in case kaz is confused and i am too lazy to edit my last post.
added bolded statement if that is what confused him.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 06:13:19 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 22, 2011, 06:13:19 PM
jmv
the fact that gannon dies in teepee is proof that nintendo was trying to retroactively prove the split timeline theory
the fact that gannon dies in teepee is proof that nintendo was trying to retroactively prove the split timeline theory
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 09:18:31 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 22, 2011, 09:18:31 PM
oh i get what you meant now jmv
yeah i'm also pretty sure that wind waker stated that his SEAL was broken. at the time i'm sure that the developers meant the oot seal. tp pretty much fucked that up, i guess. i don't even know how to explain that.
yeah i'm also pretty sure that wind waker stated that his SEAL was broken. at the time i'm sure that the developers meant the oot seal. tp pretty much fucked that up, i guess. i don't even know how to explain that.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 09:20:12 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 09:20:12 PM
yeah i still don't know where tp fits in really which is part of why i've been ignoring it
was tp really meant to legitimize the split timeline theory lol awdood;
was tp really meant to legitimize the split timeline theory lol awdood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Thyme on December 22, 2011, 09:30:19 PM
Post by: Thyme on December 22, 2011, 09:30:19 PM
You guys have become what you hate. tomatoes;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 09:35:48 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 22, 2011, 09:35:48 PM
Quote from: Thyme on December 22, 2011, 09:30:19 PM
You guys have become what you hate. tomatoes;
I still stand by my original position. Reichdood;
But I will dabble in the fan idiocy for the sake of science. THE POWER OF GOD
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Daddy on December 23, 2011, 06:45:50 AM
Post by: Daddy on December 23, 2011, 06:45:50 AM
Nintendo could easily resolve the split timeline theory by adding a game in between WW and TP akudood;
After breaking the seal of OOT and link is nowhere to be found the Gods flood Hyrule, attempt to execute Ganon, and try to seal him away again(in the twilight realm).
This explains both seals, the flood, his attempted execution, and all that.
A game between the two could explain how he came back from dying or whatever. It would also eliminate all this split timeline bullshit.
After breaking the seal of OOT and link is nowhere to be found the Gods flood Hyrule, attempt to execute Ganon, and try to seal him away again(in the twilight realm).
This explains both seals, the flood, his attempted execution, and all that.
A game between the two could explain how he came back from dying or whatever. It would also eliminate all this split timeline bullshit.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 23, 2011, 08:04:32 AM
Post by: Nyerp on December 23, 2011, 08:04:32 AM
Quote from: Khadafi on December 23, 2011, 06:45:50 AM
After breaking the seal of OOT and link is nowhere to be found the Gods flood Hyrule, attempt to execute Ganon, and try to seal him away again(in the twilight realm).
This explains both seals, the flood, his attempted execution, and all that.
no, no it doesn't, stop that
also did you not notice the fact that nintendo now apparently recognizes the split timeline theory officially
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Daddy on December 23, 2011, 10:18:08 AM
Post by: Daddy on December 23, 2011, 10:18:08 AM
it can because i am a genius and i solved everything due to my phd in hyrulian history.
Nintendo can recognize my dick.
Nintendo can recognize my dick.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: ME## on December 23, 2011, 10:35:42 AM
Post by: ME## on December 23, 2011, 10:35:42 AM
hyrulian herstory
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 23, 2011, 11:35:31 AM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 23, 2011, 11:35:31 AM
isn't that different from what the article posted? lol
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Thyme on December 23, 2011, 11:36:35 AM
Post by: Thyme on December 23, 2011, 11:36:35 AM
Quote from: Azunyan on December 23, 2011, 11:35:31 AM
isn't that different from what the article posted? lol
maybe it's a different take on the translation confuseddood;
japerneese is hard
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 23, 2011, 02:31:08 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 23, 2011, 02:31:08 PM
Quote from: Azunyan on December 23, 2011, 11:35:31 AM
isn't that different from what the article posted? lol
...no? what are you seeing here that's different? confuseddood;
my question is why the hell do they call fsa "four swords +"
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 23, 2011, 02:53:39 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 23, 2011, 02:53:39 PM
Quote from: Khadafi on December 23, 2011, 06:45:50 AM
Nintendo could easily resolve the split timeline theory by adding a game in between WW and TP akudood;
they could, but now that they've made their batshit retarded timeline public i doubt they will
Subsequent games will likely take further steps to legitimize that timeline. dittodood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 23, 2011, 03:14:42 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 23, 2011, 03:14:42 PM
you know i guess this is nintendo's "subtle" way of de-canonizing alttp, ooa/oos, la, zelda 1 and zelda 2 by simply placing them in a timeline that NEVER FUCKING HAPPENED
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: me003 on December 23, 2011, 06:51:18 PM
Post by: me003 on December 23, 2011, 06:51:18 PM
wat bout Zelda BS?
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: bluaki on December 23, 2011, 07:18:47 PM
Post by: bluaki on December 23, 2011, 07:18:47 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on December 23, 2011, 02:31:08 PMThat's a literal translation of the Japanese title
my question is why the hell do they call fsa "four swords +"
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Hiro on December 26, 2011, 10:12:17 AM
Post by: Hiro on December 26, 2011, 10:12:17 AM
Quote from: Azunyan on December 22, 2011, 09:18:31 PMI'm thinking the TP seal, where the sages put him in the twilight realm or whatever it was, was what was done to ganon in the kid link timeline of oot
oh i get what you meant now jmv
yeah i'm also pretty sure that wind waker stated that his SEAL was broken. at the time i'm sure that the developers meant the oot seal. tp pretty much fucked that up, i guess. i don't even know how to explain that.
The WW seal is ganon being sealed in the master sword as he could be in the adult link timeline.
that way both timelines have him sealed away, just with different methods.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on December 26, 2011, 10:46:36 AM
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on December 26, 2011, 10:46:36 AM
The next LoZ game will reveal that the entire series was just the dream of an overworked middle aged plumber.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 26, 2011, 11:28:00 AM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 26, 2011, 11:28:00 AM
Quote from: Hiroglyph on December 26, 2011, 10:12:17 AM
I'm thinking the TP seal, where the sages put him in the twilight realm or whatever it was, was what was done to ganon in the kid link timeline of oot
uh no ganondorf dies at the end of tp
he was sealed by the sages pre-game, and broke out. then link kills him at the end of the game. remember?
that's why it wouldn't have made sense if tp was before ww but it's actually not so i don't know what jmv was talking about anymore and now i just think he didn't even read the timeline
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Hiro on December 26, 2011, 11:33:07 AM
Post by: Hiro on December 26, 2011, 11:33:07 AM
Quote from: Azunyan on December 26, 2011, 11:28:00 AM1) I've never beaten tp lol
uh no ganondorf dies at the end of tp
he was sealed by the sages pre-game, and broke out. then link kills him at the end of the game. remember?
that's why it wouldn't have made sense if tp was before ww but it's actually not so i don't know what jmv was talking about anymore and now i just think he didn't even read the timeline
2) the ending of tp has nothing to do with anything i'm talking about
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 26, 2011, 11:37:35 AM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 26, 2011, 11:37:35 AM
Quote from: Hiroglyph on December 26, 2011, 11:33:07 AM
2) the ending of tp has nothing to do with anything i'm talking about
i think you're confused. the conversation jmv and i were having was about him being confused how tp could come before ww because of ganon's seal being broken for ww. but tp does not come before ww anyway, so it's a moot point.
the seal on ganon is already listed in the timeline normally with no confusion, i'm not sure why you're even talking about it. i know he was sealed away before the game's events. it says so right there already. and in the game.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: PLEASEHELP1991 on December 26, 2011, 06:07:59 PM
Post by: PLEASEHELP1991 on December 26, 2011, 06:07:59 PM
Quote from: N o t S i d on December 26, 2011, 10:46:36 AMlol
The next LoZ game will reveal that the entire series was just the dream of an overworked middle aged plumber.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 27, 2011, 10:32:35 AM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 27, 2011, 10:32:35 AM
http://www.glitterberri.com/uncategorized/the-real-zelda-timeline/
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/0OvmC.jpg)[/spoiler]
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/0OvmC.jpg)[/spoiler]
QuoteComplaints? Take it up with longtime Zelda developer Eiji Aonuma. The cover states that he is the supervising editor of the book, which lends the timeline a significant degree of legitimacy.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: don't let's on December 27, 2011, 11:00:17 AM
Post by: don't let's on December 27, 2011, 11:00:17 AM
Ok so Ganon was sealed in the Adult Era OoT and then was somehow revived and sealed again in the Era Without a Hero, and then was revived again in WW.
So I wonder how he got sealed then in the part between OoT and WW?
So I wonder how he got sealed then in the part between OoT and WW?
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 27, 2011, 12:15:25 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 27, 2011, 12:15:25 PM
Quote from: Mayhaps… Revelry? on December 27, 2011, 11:00:17 AM
Ok so Ganon was sealed in the Adult Era OoT and then was somehow revived and sealed again in the Era Without a Hero, and then was revived again in WW.
So I wonder how he got sealed then in the part between OoT and WW?
Who knows? It's a potential place for a game.
Honestly, I'm not hating this whole timeline thing THAT much, it's just that the "The Hero is Defeated" timeline is an obvious attempt at Nintendo's parts to simply corral together the games that don't fit in the timeline otherwise and it's pretty goddamn stupid. The other stuff makes sense because those games were connected anyway.
Not saying that I'm happy that the split timeline is now legitimate, but it's not that big of a deal.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Daddy on December 27, 2011, 04:49:37 PM
Post by: Daddy on December 27, 2011, 04:49:37 PM
It is a huge deal akudood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: PLEASEHELP1991 on December 27, 2011, 11:06:48 PM
Post by: PLEASEHELP1991 on December 27, 2011, 11:06:48 PM
Quote from: Tectrinket on December 27, 2011, 10:32:35 AMplease explain why four swords and four swords adventure are separated by a great distance on that timeline
http://www.glitterberri.com/uncategorized/the-real-zelda-timeline/
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/0OvmC.jpg)[/spoiler]
/assuming the timeline is linear
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 27, 2011, 11:27:56 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 27, 2011, 11:27:56 PM
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: don't let's on December 28, 2011, 02:14:43 AM
Post by: don't let's on December 28, 2011, 02:14:43 AM
The series has been tainted.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: PLEASEHELP1991 on December 28, 2011, 02:16:20 AM
Post by: PLEASEHELP1991 on December 28, 2011, 02:16:20 AM
Quote from: Mayhaps… Revelry? on December 28, 2011, 02:14:43 AMif you agree that there is only one interpretation of the series
The series has been tainted.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: don't let's on December 28, 2011, 02:21:07 AM
Post by: don't let's on December 28, 2011, 02:21:07 AM
Well you can interpret it anyway you want to, but as of right now there's only one official interpretation (maybe)
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Daddy on December 28, 2011, 05:47:44 AM
Post by: Daddy on December 28, 2011, 05:47:44 AM
Quote from: Azunyan on December 27, 2011, 11:27:56 PMto me and tec it is.
no it really isn't
you like star wars right. Let's say that one day george lucas decides one day that due to faster than light travel in the millenium falcon a split timeline occurs to deal with the relativistic effects of ftl. In one timeline the galactic empire is defeated and in another it appears as if there is no luke, han, or chewie because they disappeared from the timeline so the empire wins. would you not be like 'wtf lol fuck u lucas ruining stuff lik always'
or pick another series.
Like I said in that split discussion in the recycle board. I like reading into the fictional histories and mythologies of different places (Hyrule, Middle Earth, STAH WAHS, etc). It is a personal interest for me. When the publisher of the content does something retarded like add a third timeline for a 'what if he never wins lol' to the canon of the series history it is quite frustrating.
fuck u saying my hobbies are not important. akudood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 28, 2011, 09:24:35 AM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 28, 2011, 09:24:35 AM
tl;dr
i love zelda more than i love star wars and i still don't think it's that big of a deal. yes it's frustrating that there's a sudden new third timeline for no good reason but it's not like it affects the quality of those games and i thought we already established that nintendo is dumb for doing this. i just really don't see a need to freak out about it.
i love zelda more than i love star wars and i still don't think it's that big of a deal. yes it's frustrating that there's a sudden new third timeline for no good reason but it's not like it affects the quality of those games and i thought we already established that nintendo is dumb for doing this. i just really don't see a need to freak out about it.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 28, 2011, 11:35:02 AM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 28, 2011, 11:35:02 AM
it wouldn't matter if it had no effect on the games, but i fully expect future games to be based on this fake&gay timeline
Well, at least the current games still fit my interpretation. awdood;
Well, at least the current games still fit my interpretation. awdood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on December 28, 2011, 11:56:08 AM
Post by: Samus Aran on December 28, 2011, 11:56:08 AM
Quote from: Tectrinket on December 28, 2011, 11:35:02 AM
it wouldn't matter if it had no effect on the games, but i fully expect future games to be based on this fake&gay timeline
Well, at least the current games still fit my interpretation. awdood;
i sort of anticipate that as well, and at that point, it'd become a problem. i just really hope nintendo either has a sudden spark of ingenuity that enables them to both tie the games together well and make a great fucking game
and not just one or the other
or neither smithicide;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: don't let's on December 28, 2011, 01:08:11 PM
Post by: don't let's on December 28, 2011, 01:08:11 PM
All timelines will eventually converge into a game where you play as multiple Links from the different timelines that will eventually reboot the universe merging them all back into a single universe/timeline and effectively erasing anything that came before it.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: silvertone on December 28, 2011, 01:09:56 PM
Post by: silvertone on December 28, 2011, 01:09:56 PM
Quote from: Mayhaps… Revelry? on December 28, 2011, 01:08:11 PMis dark link the failed hero.
All timelines will eventually converge into a game where you play as multiple Links from the different timelines that will eventually reboot the universe merging them all back into a single universe/timeline and effectively erasing anything that came before it.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on December 28, 2011, 01:10:40 PM
Post by: Nyerp on December 28, 2011, 01:10:40 PM
link became a failed timeline
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on January 05, 2012, 11:57:50 PM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on January 05, 2012, 11:57:50 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on December 28, 2011, 01:10:40 PM
link became a failed timeline
http://www.zeldauniverse.net/zelda-news/hyrule-historia-reveals-oot-links-cameo-in-twilight-princess/
Quote
However, now we can easily say with certainty that the Hero’s Shade from Twilight Princess is indeed OoT’s very own Hero of Time.
When Link first set foot in the Twilight, the crest of the Triforce of Courage shined on the back of his hand; when he returned to human-form he wore clothes the hero wore. Link is taught mysteries from the ghost of the hero of time. Since he returned to his childhood, he’d felt regret that he would leave his name as hero. Therefore, the “son” of Link speaks proof of the courage he inheirited mysteriously.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on January 06, 2012, 01:51:17 AM
Post by: Samus Aran on January 06, 2012, 01:51:17 AM
so he really did.......become a stalfos.............................
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on January 06, 2012, 03:06:05 AM
Post by: Nyerp on January 06, 2012, 03:06:05 AM
i don't really mind that and the game actually pretty heavily hinted at it
he didn't become a fucking stalfos though
he didn't become a fucking stalfos though
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on January 06, 2012, 11:08:10 AM
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on January 06, 2012, 11:08:10 AM
http://www.gamesradar.com/nintendo-backtracks-over-official-zelda-timeline-everyone-had-been-so-pleased-see/
And just like that, all my fear has been vaporized. befuddlement
And just like that, all my fear has been vaporized. befuddlement
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Nyerp on January 06, 2012, 04:25:55 PM
Post by: Nyerp on January 06, 2012, 04:25:55 PM
Quote from: Tectrinket on January 06, 2012, 11:08:10 AM
http://www.gamesradar.com/nintendo-backtracks-over-official-zelda-timeline-everyone-had-been-so-pleased-see/
And just like that, all my fear has been vaporized. befuddlement
LOL
and we argued about this for all these pages...we have become the fantards...
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on January 06, 2012, 04:29:15 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on January 06, 2012, 04:29:15 PM
lol it was sort of a silly thing to be all that "scared" about anyway if you ask me but whatever
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Daddy on January 12, 2012, 04:36:10 PM
Post by: Daddy on January 12, 2012, 04:36:10 PM
it's not like i explained why tec and i care like 5 times already akudood;
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on January 12, 2012, 04:42:52 PM
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on January 12, 2012, 04:42:52 PM
where does links crossbow training fit into this timeline?
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Samus Aran on January 12, 2012, 04:44:08 PM
Post by: Samus Aran on January 12, 2012, 04:44:08 PM
i know you care and i know why you care. i care too. but i wasn't "scared" and i don't overreact like you guys do.
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: silvertone on January 12, 2012, 05:31:25 PM
Post by: silvertone on January 12, 2012, 05:31:25 PM
keepin yo cool. don't blow ya stack
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: Travis on January 12, 2012, 08:43:01 PM
Post by: Travis on January 12, 2012, 08:43:01 PM
Quote from: N o t S i d on January 12, 2012, 04:42:52 PMRight before Wand of Gamelon, but after Link: The Faces of Evil
where does links crossbow training fit into this timeline?
Title: Re: the LEGEND of zelda
Post by: YPrrrr on January 13, 2012, 01:19:25 PM
Post by: YPrrrr on January 13, 2012, 01:19:25 PM
Quote from: N o t S i d on January 12, 2012, 04:42:52 PMIt is a separate isolated incident like the majority of the series which includes familiar characters and scenery hocuspocus;
where does links crossbow training fit into this timeline?