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General => Internet, Science, & Technology => Topic started by: Samus Aran on August 04, 2011, 01:40:39 PM

Title: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: Samus Aran on August 04, 2011, 01:40:39 PM
how is this thing even useful to users at all? it's just an extra thing to have to install to see the couple things on the internet that actually bother to use silverlight

did microsoft actually believe they were going to compete with flash with this abomination? and then there's html5 to consider, as well.
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: ????? on August 04, 2011, 01:53:59 PM
Quote from: Suigintou on August 04, 2011, 01:40:39 PM
and then there's html5 to consider, as well.


MS is actually a big supporter of HTML5.

The only thing I dislike about Silverlight is that there's only Mac and Windows version :(
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: Samus Aran on August 04, 2011, 01:55:39 PM
Quote from: TheSequel on August 04, 2011, 01:53:59 PM
MS is actually a big supporter of HTML5.


this leads me to wonder even more why silverlight exists

it's not that it's inherently bad in itself, it's just that we don't need extra things to have to install when said content could have probably been rendered just as well with flash
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: Thyme on August 04, 2011, 01:59:11 PM
i agree
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: Daddy on August 04, 2011, 02:36:08 PM
Silverlight works a lot better than Flash on OS X.

Flash turns my laptop into a space heater and chokes when streaming 480P stuff.

Silverlight can stream HD content on Netflix without an issue.
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: applesauce on August 04, 2011, 02:48:16 PM
Yeah really the only thing that bothers me about it is that there is no Linux version.  :(
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: Clara Listensprechen on August 04, 2011, 04:03:45 PM
Foo--Microsoft should have been outlawed the first time Apple sued it for patent infringement. The ruling was made that software couldn't be patented.  As a result, Microsoft invented this thing called "intellectual property" so that anybody would be unable to commit the same screwing that Microsoft did to Apple when Microsoft "developed" the first ever Windows OS based on Apple's intellectual property.
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: ????? on August 04, 2011, 06:24:00 PM
Quote from: Clara Listensprechen on August 04, 2011, 04:03:45 PM
Foo--Microsoft should have been outlawed the first time Apple sued it for patent infringement. The ruling was made that software couldn't be patented.  As a result, Microsoft invented this thing called "intellectual property" so that anybody would be unable to commit the same screwing that Microsoft did to Apple when Microsoft "developed" the first ever Windows OS based on Apple's intellectual property.


What? What country are you from? In the US software can be patented.

By the way, Apple is around today because MS invested $150 million in Apple.
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: Daddy on August 05, 2011, 08:11:03 AM
Quote from: applesauce on August 04, 2011, 02:48:16 PM
Yeah really the only thing that bothers me about it is that there is no Linux version.  :(
Doesn't moonlight work well?

Except for Netflix but that isn't Silverlight's fault.  DRM is the reason for that.
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: Clara Listensprechen on August 05, 2011, 08:34:50 AM
Quote from: TheSequel on August 04, 2011, 06:24:00 PM
What? What country are you from? In the US software can be patented.

By the way, Apple is around today because MS invested $150 million in Apple.

It can NOW. That wasn't the case back in the Court Case That Changed Everything...which occurred in a U.S. court.  I take it that this was before your time, kid. ;)

Apple is worth what it is today because Jobs not only took Apple Corp down a niche path (that's what he did In The Beginning, too) but he and his company were part of an anti-trust lawsuit against Microsoft and won cross-platform rights to Microsoft's source code as part of the settlement.  Revenge was doubtlessly extraordinarily sweet in this case.
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: ????? on August 06, 2011, 09:11:27 PM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 05, 2011, 08:11:03 AM
Doesn't moonlight work well?

Except for Netflix but that isn't Silverlight's fault.  DRM is the reason for that.


What else would I want Silverlight for?

If there was a native Linux Silverlight then people on Linux wouldn't have to worry about the DRM.

Quote from: Clara Listensprechen on August 04, 2011, 04:03:45 PM
Foo--Microsoft should have been outlawed the first time Apple sued it for patent infringement. The ruling was made that software couldn't be patented.  As a result, Microsoft invented this thing called "intellectual property" so that anybody would be unable to commit the same screwing that Microsoft did to Apple when Microsoft "developed" the first ever Windows OS based on Apple's intellectual property.


I thought that the case that allowed software patents was Diamon v. Diehr (1981).
How did MS invent IP? The North Germanic's Confederation's constitution defended IP. Oh by the way, that was back in the 1860s.

I take it this was before your time, kid. ;)
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: don't let's on August 06, 2011, 09:30:16 PM
Outlawed to the stars!

But I think the only thing I've run across recently that used silverlight was the halo waypoint site. I remember when it came out and I installed it, but then it was never used :(
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: Hiro on August 09, 2011, 08:58:29 PM
I thought the point of Silverlight was that it does HD video a lot better than flash does. I agree with your complaint but it doesn't bother me as much as it used to.
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: ME## on August 15, 2011, 03:27:24 PM
silverlight usually performs much better than flash for me.  if anything, adobe's crap should be outlawed goodjob;
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: Samus Aran on August 15, 2011, 04:04:36 PM
Quote from: Maester86 on August 15, 2011, 03:27:24 PM
silverlight usually performs much better than flash for me.  if anything, adobe's crap should be outlawed goodjob;


or simply improved
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: Thyme on August 15, 2011, 04:54:14 PM
Quote from: Maester86 on August 15, 2011, 03:27:24 PM
silverlight usually performs much better than flash for me.  if anything, adobe's crap should be outlawed goodjob;


then i will have learned actionscript for nothing :'(
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: ????? on August 15, 2011, 09:41:31 PM
Quote from: Thyme on August 15, 2011, 04:54:14 PM
then i will have learned actionscript for nothing :'(


Good.
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: snoorkel on August 15, 2011, 10:24:22 PM
actionscript smithicide;
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: Thyme on August 16, 2011, 10:25:37 AM
Quote from: TheSequel on August 15, 2011, 09:41:31 PM
Good.


trace("wow rude");

Quote from: vziard on August 15, 2011, 10:24:22 PM
actionscript smithicide;


i agree smithicide;
Title: Re: microsoft silverlight should be outlawed
Post by: ????? on August 18, 2011, 08:38:20 PM
Quote from: Thyme on August 16, 2011, 10:25:37 AM
trace("wow rude");

i agree smithicide;


#include <stdio.h>
int main(void) {
    printf("Stop using code in posts.\nIt are so dum.\n");
}