Okay, I'm looking into getting a new TV eventually because mine is old and decrepid. Like, seriously, it has no ports other than a cable jack. Anyway I don't want an HDTV because I don't want to deal with de-syncing issues with video games and I don't want to pay for the extra quality in picture/sound anyway. I'm quite fine with a fairly nice, normal television with a flat screen.
However, I'm completely retarded when it comes to these things, so help me out with this example:
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-19LV610U-19-Inch-Built-Player/dp/B001TDJ7VA/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_1
Since it doesn't explicitely state it's HD in the name, it's not HD, right? I mean, I don't really even know the advantage of LCD screens, and I don't know how common it is to have LCD screens without HD, hell I don't even know exactly what makes a screen "HD."
But yeah idk help me find something nice and not too expensive and flat screened and something around 19 inches because I don't want something very big (don't have much room). And not HD. And preferably as little extra bullshit as possible.
And keep in mind that up there is just an example, someone was having me look at it. I wouldn't buy that thing, its volume apparently sucks and I don't want a built-in DVD player.
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720p, 1080i, and 1080p are all HD.
480p should be fine. That's the resolution the Gamecube used for the component cables.
De-syncing issues with video games? What are you talking about?
I think $275 is too much for a 19 inch tv.
Quote from: reefer on August 17, 2009, 09:19:22 PM
De-syncing issues with video games? What are you talking about?
I think $275 is too much for a 19 inch tv.
I was under the impression that games that are heavy in synchronization, namely rhythm games (which I play frequently), have the tendency to de-sync.
HOWEVER, I just remembered that I've only seen the problem for myself on a Wii version of GH games...so it might just be that it's due to the Wii itself not supporting HD? I dunno, but GHIII tells me that these things happen with HDTVs because there's an option to re-calibrate for HDTVs. I'm confused.
Also wouldn't all my old consoles not support HD...and what does it even mean by "not support," would like the display not work at all on an HDTV or would it just not be HD quality or what? Would there be some sort of converter cables I'd have to buy, etc.?
:'(
Quote from: Kaz on August 17, 2009, 09:40:46 PM
Also wouldn't all my old consoles not support HD...and what does it even mean by "not support," would like the display not work at all on an HDTV or would it just not be HD quality or what? Would there be some sort of converter cables I'd have to buy, etc.?
:'(
they'd work on an hdtv, they just wouldn't look good
and in most cases you can use the same old composite cables n_u
Quote from: Tc on August 17, 2009, 09:46:38 PM
they'd work on an hdtv, they just wouldn't look good
and in most cases you can use the same old composite cables n_u
i'm assuming they'd look no better than they would on your average old tv, right?
just fine, but not hd quality
by "not good" i hope you don't mean absolutely terrible n_u
I hear that SNES games look bad on HDTV compared to a standard definition tv at the same size but I don't really notice. I play my SNES on my 32 inch 1080p tv all the time. My friend's standard definition tv's audio was out of sync while my HDTV wasn't while playing Rock Band.
Most of the games have sync options if you find it out of sync.
Personally I'd only stay away from HDTV if I wasn't looking to spend that much but $300-400 gets you a 32 inch 1080i HDTV now-a-days. Another note is that light gun games like Duck Hunt will NOT play on LCD or Plasma screans.
19 inch for $180 (720p)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9135385&type=product&id=1218054461986
32 inch for $340 (720p, pretty decent but there are better deals out there)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9329336&type=product&id=1218086176589
Hmm, well, I guess I might as well take the risk of of rhythm games possibly desyncing (it says some HDTVs do it, not all) and just go with a cheap HD then, because it seems that non-HD screens are more expensive anyway, really.
Quote from: Kaz on August 17, 2009, 10:28:12 PM
Hmm, well, I guess I might as well take the risk of of rhythm games possibly desyncing (it says some HDTVs do it, not all) and just go with a cheap HD then, because it seems that non-HD screens are more expensive anyway, really.
I just don't suggest Westinghouse. I had one and the LCD screen started separate from the front panel and created a shadow. Luckily I had a warranty and they gave me almost all the money back.
I have a Sharp and it kicks ass.
Quote from: Kaz on August 17, 2009, 09:49:10 PM
i'm assuming they'd look no better than they would on your average old tv, right?
just fine, but not hd quality
by "not good" i hope you don't mean absolutely terrible n_u
really large TVs make the image look stretched, but at 19" i don't think you'll have any issues n_u
just make sure your TV of choice has all of the connections necessary for you before you buy baddood;
Quote from: Tc on August 17, 2009, 10:35:13 PM
really large TVs make the image look stretched, but at 19" i don't think you'll have any issues n_u
just make sure your TV of choice has all of the connections necessary for you before you buy baddood;
Indeed, make sure you have one or two HDMI cables, you won't regret it.
Maybe a DVI or VGA cable for your computer so you can use it as a monitor just in case too.
Of course your old stuff works on an HD tv. And desyncing isn't really a problem. All you needed to do was calibrate your controller on guitar hero. that said, at least get progressive scan and a digital tuner, and probably widescreen would be good.
Quote from: Hïro on August 17, 2009, 10:54:28 PM
Of course your old stuff works on an HD tv. And desyncing isn't really a problem. All you needed to do was calibrate your controller on guitar hero. that said, at least get progressive scan and a digital tuner, and probably widescreen would be good.
what's progressive scan lol
why digital tuner lol and what is it
Progressive scan means the whole image is much more clear. A digital tuner is the tv tuner, for the channels. Remember the whole big digital tv switch that happened a few months ago?
Quote from: Hïro on August 17, 2009, 11:08:35 PM
Progressive scan means the whole image is much more clear. A digital tuner is the tv tuner, for the channels. Remember the whole big digital tv switch that happened a few months ago?
i have cable anyway, i don't live so out in the middle of nowhere that i was ever affected by that switch to totally digital
This displeases me. I paid a little under $600 for my 32 inch LG TV. Then again, I got it quite awhile ago.
I haven't had a single issue with de-syncing or anything of that kind with my TV. Like everybody else said make sure the TV has at least 2 HDMI ports, a d-sub connector for computer, etc.
Quote from: Nate on August 18, 2009, 04:56:34 AM
This displeases me. I paid a little under $600 for my 32 inch LG TV. Then again, I got it quite awhile ago.
I haven't had a single issue with de-syncing or anything of that kind with my TV. Like everybody else said make sure the TV has at least 2 HDMI ports, a d-sub connector for computer, etc.
I paid a lot more than that, then again my TV is 1080p with a really good frame rate, not that I can tell but it's nice to pretend I got a good deal.
Quote from: reefer on August 18, 2009, 04:57:56 AM
I paid a lot more than that, then again my TV is 1080p with a really good frame rate, not that I can tell but it's nice to pretend I got a good deal.
My TV only goes up to 720p. With one HDMI port. lol
Quote from: Nate on August 18, 2009, 05:01:30 AM
My TV only goes up to 720p. With one HDMI port. lol
Sadly those HDMI hubs are expensive and probably junk.
Educate me some more, guys. What does HDMI stand for, what does it mean, why do I need it, why do video game consoles come with HDMI hookups these days, why do I need 2 instead of 1 HDMI ports on a TV, etc.
Anything 32 inches and below probably won't even come with 1080p.
DVI ports are for computers, they're like the new VGA cables.
Quote from: Kaz on August 18, 2009, 01:13:45 PM
Educate me some more, guys. What does HDMI stand for, what does it mean, why do I need it, why do video game consoles come with HDMI hookups these days, why do I need 2 instead of 1 HDMI ports on a TV, etc.
Xbox 360 (newer ones only) and all PS3s have HDMI ports. Think about them as the newest most best AVI cables. They do audio and video at 1080p.
Get at least two of them, you won't regret it if you get a PS3 in the future or have a 360 with HDMI ports.
(http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20070809/360_hdmi_540x405.jpg)
It's the port at the bottom middle.
Though I never cared to ask but it stands for High-Definition Multimedia Interface.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9153961&type=product&id=1218038552639
does something like this seem good
Quote from: Kaz on August 18, 2009, 05:40:16 PM
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9153961&type=product&id=1218038552639
does something like this seem good
QuoteINSIGNIA
NO O_0
is Insignia really that bad lol
people also seem to dislike Dynex quite a bit
Quote from: Kaz on August 18, 2009, 05:44:11 PM
is Insignia really that bad lol
people also seem to dislike Dynex quite a bit
Or, you can get a brand you've actually heard of for the same price.
http://www.circuitcity.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3920261&CatId=3648 n_u
Quote from: Kaz on August 18, 2009, 05:44:11 PM
is Insignia really that bad lol
people also seem to dislike Dynex quite a bit
Both of them are owned by Best Buy, so I wouldn't imagine their quality differing all that much. befuddlement
The only Dynex product I've used is a Wi-Fi adaptor for the other desktop downstairs, it isn't great and is rather annoying [I've had to uninstal it and reinstal it several times in the past two months because it just stopped working]. n_u
Quote from: Tc on August 18, 2009, 05:55:31 PM
Or, you can get a brand you've actually heard of for the same price.
http://www.circuitcity.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3920261&CatId=3648 n_u
Oooh, I like it. But where do composite video plugs go in? There is no yellow port next to where the composite audio can go in.
befuddlement
Quote from: Kaz on August 18, 2009, 05:59:30 PM
Oooh, I like it. But where do composite video plugs go in? There is no yellow port next to where the composite audio can go in.
befuddlement
It doesn't appear to have a composite in. befuddlement
Quote from: ДавиÌд on August 18, 2009, 06:04:55 PM
It doesn't appear to have a composite in. befuddlement
Which means I can't use my old consoles on it without some sort of an adapter that I'm sure must exist somewhere out there.
I mean, other than the lack of composite possibilities, it looks fine to me. Just need something with composite, at least one of them. Preferably more than one if possible obviously.
I had an Insignia monitor and it didn't display colors correctly. Just make sure you can take it back if something extemely bad happens. Dead pixels are prety likely by the way but they're hard to see unless you focus on them.
Hmm, I didn't realize it lacked a composite video in... befuddlement
BUT THERE'S ADAPTERS FOR THAT
http://www.amazon.com/VGA-S-Video-Composite-Adapter-Cable/dp/B001I25ZWM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=miscellaneous&qid=1250702012&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/NEW-CONVERTER-S-VIDEO-CABLE-ADAPTER/dp/B000S675JU/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1250702012&sr=8-11
http://www.amazon.com/VGA-S-Video-Composite-Adapter-Cable/dp/B001VLE4QI/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=miscellaneous&qid=1250702012&sr=8-10
I hope you don't mind spending a tiny bit more than originally planned. girl;
It's okay Tec, I might not be the one buying it. n_u
Quote from: Kaz on August 19, 2009, 05:18:21 PM
It's okay Tec, I might not be the one buying it. n_u
baddood;
also, i just realized that it's a $20 rebate that makes the TV $239.99, before the rebate it's $259.99
are you okay with that befuddlement