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Title: The Academy Awards
Post by: Hiro on February 22, 2009, 10:09:37 PM
ZOMG HEATH LEDGER/SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE WON
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: sans culottes on February 23, 2009, 06:08:20 AM
I predicted Slumdog to get best picture, if not Benjamin Button, and wasn't surprised at all the other awards. I bet Dark Knight fanboys are still bitching and whining that it didn't get nominated for best picture.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Geno on February 23, 2009, 12:39:35 PM
Quote from: coz on February 23, 2009, 06:08:20 AM
I predicted Slumdog to get best picture, if not Benjamin Button, and wasn't surprised at all the other awards. I bet Dark Knight fanboys are still bitching and whining that it didn't get nominated for best picture.
The thing is: Why wouldn't it be nominated for best picture when it was without a doubt the best picture of 2008
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: KonohaShinobi on February 23, 2009, 12:42:16 PM
Who didn't know heath would win? His father, mother, and sister were there for christ's sake. The Academy would be completely heartless and cold to not give it to him. Not to mention he kind of deserved it, his portrayal of the Joker was amazing.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: YPrrrr on February 23, 2009, 12:55:30 PM
Quote from: Geno on February 23, 2009, 12:39:35 PM
The thing is: Why wouldn't it be nominated for best picture when it was without a doubt the best picture of 2008
It wasn't that great... Probably should have been at least nominated though
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Meyer Lansky on February 23, 2009, 12:58:42 PM
Quote from: YPR on February 23, 2009, 12:55:30 PM
It wasn't that great... Probably should have been at least nominated though
Over The Reader, yes.

Otherwise, every movie that was nominated was better than TDK.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: The artist formally known on February 23, 2009, 01:31:26 PM
I watched The Dark Knight over again. If Heath Ledger wasn't in the movie it would be mediocre at best. It doesn't deserve much besides what Heath did for it. Sorry guys.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Skylark on February 23, 2009, 08:06:38 PM
Slumdog deserves it.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Andrew1911 on February 23, 2009, 09:22:01 PM
Quote from: Geno on February 23, 2009, 12:39:35 PM
The thing is: Why wouldn't it be nominated for best picture when it was without a doubt the best picture of 2008


dear god get raped
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Samus Aran on February 23, 2009, 09:37:45 PM
Quote from: reefer on February 23, 2009, 01:31:26 PM
I watched The Dark Knight over again. If Heath Ledger wasn't in the movie it would be mediocre at best. It doesn't deserve much besides what Heath did for it. Sorry guys.


I really agree with this. Heath steals the show so strongly it's ridiculous. And it was most certainly not the best film of 2008.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: russell on February 23, 2009, 10:11:25 PM
Agreed, The Dark Knight isn't even close to best film. Probably not even top 10... and I'm even having second thoughts about Heath Ledger's acting, which, after watching The Silence of The Lambs for the first time in years, I've realized is a carbon copy of Anthony Hopkins's character with a bit of Joker personality thrown in.


Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Andrew1911 on February 24, 2009, 01:25:53 AM
Quote from: wziard on February 23, 2009, 10:11:25 PM
I've realized is a carbon copy of Anthony Hopkins's character with a bit of Joker personality thrown in.


what? no

not even remotely close

seriously, what the fuck
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: sans culottes on February 24, 2009, 05:55:46 AM
I've always seen his Joker as being more like an exaggerated Scorpio (Dirty Harry).

The Dark Knight is a lot of people's favorite film of the year, but that doesn't equal best film.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on February 24, 2009, 07:03:19 AM
I need to watch Milk so I can judge if Sean Penn deserved that award.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Andrew1911 on February 24, 2009, 10:29:56 AM
Quote from: coz on February 24, 2009, 05:55:46 AM
I've always seen his Joker as being more like an exaggerated Scorpio (Dirty Harry).


what the fuck are you people even watching
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Bolivian Army on February 24, 2009, 10:35:28 AM
Quote from: Andrew1911 on February 24, 2009, 10:29:56 AM
what the fuck are you people even watching


yeah but he laughs when he's beating harry up  baddood;

Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Andrew1911 on February 24, 2009, 10:59:06 AM
Quote from: Brooks on February 24, 2009, 10:35:28 AM
yeah but he laughs when he's beating harry up  baddood;


there's a lot more subtleties to ledger's performance than just laughing when he beats someone up  doodhuh;

also dirty harry sucks
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Bolivian Army on February 24, 2009, 12:08:32 PM
Quote from: Andrew1911 on February 24, 2009, 10:59:06 AM
there's a lot more subtleties to ledger's performance than just laughing when he beats someone up  doodhuh;

also dirty harry sucks


yeah but scorpio paid a guy to beat him up baddood;

it's subtle in its own way
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Commander Fuckass on February 24, 2009, 05:32:18 PM
Ok guys admit it, the only reason we all went to see The Dark Knight was to see if Heath's joker was going to suck.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Skylark on February 24, 2009, 05:39:53 PM
Quote from: Craven Morehead on February 24, 2009, 07:03:19 AM
I need to watch Milk so I can judge if Sean Penn deserved that award.


Sean Penn was great in that film. You'll see :)
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: sans culottes on February 24, 2009, 06:18:27 PM
Quote from: Andrew1911 on February 24, 2009, 10:59:06 AM
there's a lot more subtleties to ledger's performance than just laughing when he beats someone up  doodhuh;

also dirty harry sucks


Your opinions are now void.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Andrew1911 on February 24, 2009, 08:15:57 PM
Quote from: coz on February 24, 2009, 06:18:27 PM
Your opinions are now void.


it's cool if you've only seen ten films

also i'm not the nigger comparing two roles that aren't even similar to each other in anyway possible so there's that
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Feynman on February 24, 2009, 09:28:43 PM
Quote from: reefer on February 23, 2009, 01:31:26 PM
I watched The Dark Knight over again. If Heath Ledger wasn't in the movie it would be mediocre at best. It doesn't deserve much besides what Heath did for it. Sorry guys.


Well, that's the thing. The whole movie was about the Joker. It wasn't really about Batman this time, and that's the way Nolan probably intended it to be. By the same logic you're applying to The Dark Knight, if the stupid indian kid wasn't in the movie Slumdog Millionaire it would be mediocre at best.

The Dark Knight was indeed a great and enjoyable movie. It was exciting, it was heart-warming, it was beautiful, it had all the qualities a "Best Picture" should have. I think that the death of Ledger overhyped the movie, and the Academy noticed that and tried to downplay it—but they ended up downplaying so much that they didn't even nominate it.

Slumdog Millionshit only won because the academy consists of rich folks that have no idea what it is in very poor areas of the world were moved by seeing people that weren't wearing gold dentures and seeing homes that weren't diamond-encrusted. That movie was complete Oscar-bait. Put a character in, make the audience feel sympathy, and fuck with the audience. Been there, done that, seen it, hated it.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: russell on February 24, 2009, 09:53:31 PM
Quote from: Bassir on February 24, 2009, 09:28:43 PM
Well, that's the thing. The whole movie was about the Joker. It wasn't really about Batman this time, and that's the way Nolan probably intended it to be. By the same logic you're applying to The Dark Knight, if the stupid indian kid wasn't in the movie Slumdog Millionaire it would be mediocre at best.

The Dark Knight was indeed a great and enjoyable movie. It was exciting, it was heart-warming, it was beautiful, it had all the qualities a "Best Picture" should have. I think that the death of Ledger overhyped the movie, and the Academy noticed that and tried to downplay itâ,”but they ended up downplaying so much that they didn't even nominate it.

Slumdog Millionshit only won because the academy consists of rich folks that have no idea what it is in very poor areas of the world were moved by seeing people that weren't wearing gold dentures and seeing homes that weren't diamond-encrusted. That movie was complete Oscar-bait. Put a character in, make the audience feel sympathy, and fuck with the audience. Been there, done that, seen it, hated it.


christ

like andrew said, what the fuck are you guys watching; have you ever even seen a movie that didn't come out this year

the characters in slumdog millionaire and the dark knight are completely different. if Joker was played by someone else, the movie would work but be considerably worse because that's one of the few things it has going for it. if slumdog millionaire had a different kid, it would probably be only marginally worse or no different.

there is much more to a film than how engaging and "heart-warming" it is. the dark knight didn't stand apart from countless other action movies in areas like art direction, cinematography, score, editing, or writing... like I said, its strong points were ledger's performance and evidently sound editing (an award I agree with, although last year Bourne Ultimatum won best sound editing and had a similar core of fanboys calling it an amazing indie thriller or some shit).

if you'd seen Trainspotting and knew anything about film, you would see a movie that actually succeeds at everything a "best picture" should have. There are many films like this, obviously, but I pick out Trainspotting because it is also a Danny Boyle film.

you're talking about the golden globes, there, not the oscars

so in what way was dark knight not a complete ploy on Warner Bros.'s behalf to draw audiences to the familiar franchise and enticing character (Joker), in order to become an instant blockbuster?


Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: sans culottes on February 25, 2009, 06:28:07 PM
Quote from: Andrew1911 on February 24, 2009, 08:15:57 PM
it's cool if you've only seen ten films

also i'm not the nigger comparing two roles that aren't even similar to each other in anyway possible so there's that

I'm not trying to say that the Joker and Scorpio are twins, but the basic concept is the same - psychotic killer who kills because of sadism and anarchy. Regardless, Dirty Harry does not suck. Srs.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Bolivian Army on February 25, 2009, 06:29:59 PM
Quote from: coz on February 25, 2009, 06:28:07 PM
I'm not trying to say that the Joker and Scorpio are twins, but the basic concept is the same - psychotic killer who kills because of sadism and anarchy. Regardless, Dirty Harry does not suck. Srs.


didn't he also want a hundred grand
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Andrew1911 on February 25, 2009, 11:10:37 PM
Quote from: coz on February 25, 2009, 06:28:07 PM
I'm not trying to say that the Joker and Scorpio are twins, but the basic concept is the same - psychotic killer who kills because of sadism and anarchy. Regardless, Dirty Harry does not suck. Srs.


except that has nothing to do with acting performance

stop being retard baby
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on February 26, 2009, 06:30:43 AM
Quote from: Skylark on February 24, 2009, 05:39:53 PM
Sean Penn was great in that film. You'll see :)
I try to shy away from Sean Penn movie because he's so damn annoying.

The Assassination of Richard Nixon was amazing though.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Feynman on February 26, 2009, 07:57:06 PM
Quote from: wziard on February 24, 2009, 09:53:31 PM
christ

like andrew said, what the fuck are you guys watching; have you ever even seen a movie that didn't come out this year

the characters in slumdog millionaire and the dark knight are completely different. if Joker was played by someone else, the movie would work but be considerably worse because that's one of the few things it has going for it. if slumdog millionaire had a different kid, it would probably be only marginally worse or no different.

there is much more to a film than how engaging and "heart-warming" it is. the dark knight didn't stand apart from countless other action movies in areas like art direction, cinematography, score, editing, or writing... like I said, its strong points were ledger's performance and evidently sound editing (an award I agree with, although last year Bourne Ultimatum won best sound editing and had a similar core of fanboys calling it an amazing indie thriller or some shit).

if you'd seen Trainspotting and knew anything about film, you would see a movie that actually succeeds at everything a "best picture" should have. There are many films like this, obviously, but I pick out Trainspotting because it is also a Danny Boyle film.

you're talking about the golden globes, there, not the oscars

so in what way was dark knight not a complete ploy on Warner Bros.'s behalf to draw audiences to the familiar franchise and enticing character (Joker), in order to become an instant blockbuster?


I didn't say it should win Best Picture, it was overhyped.

The Oscars are overhyped. All these award shows are meaningless.

Slumshit is stupid.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Andrew1911 on February 28, 2009, 05:45:19 PM
Quote from: Craven Morehead on February 26, 2009, 06:30:43 AM
The Assassination of Richard Nixon was amazing though.


?!?!?
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on March 02, 2009, 06:22:28 AM
Quote from: Andrew1911 on February 28, 2009, 05:45:19 PM
?!?!?
what?
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Andrew1911 on March 02, 2009, 09:56:50 AM
Quote from: Craven Morehead on March 02, 2009, 06:22:28 AM
what?


there is no movie with that name
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on March 02, 2009, 12:18:58 PM
Quote from: Andrew1911 on March 02, 2009, 09:56:50 AM
there is no movie with that name
yes there is, it had sean penn in it and it's like the only movie I like him in.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards
Post by: Andrew1911 on March 02, 2009, 09:26:46 PM
Quote from: Craven Morehead on March 02, 2009, 12:18:58 PM
yes there is, it had sean penn in it and it's like the only movie I like him in.


oh that movie

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