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Title: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 19, 2007, 01:15:10 PM
I'm thinking of trying to get certifications from Microsoft, Apple, and Linux(uhm ubuntu specifically).

How useful would such certifications be in the career industry?  How about when paired with a Bachelor's in Computer Science?
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: guff on November 19, 2007, 01:44:13 PM
uh depends on what you plan to do psyduck;

also, what type of certifications there are many many many
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 19, 2007, 02:02:28 PM
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 19, 2007, 01:44:13 PM
uh depends on what you plan to do psyduck;

also, what type of certifications there are many many many
Apple Certified Support Professional and some others
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Title27GT on November 19, 2007, 02:24:57 PM
you're really going to go into a career in technology?

navi; should've gone into something like medicine where there's a high demand and you can easily make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 19, 2007, 02:46:14 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 19, 2007, 02:24:57 PM
you're really going to go into a career in technology?
No, I was joking when I said I'm going to college to get a degree in Computer Science.  psyduck;

Quotenavi; should've gone into something like medicine where there's a high demand and you can easily make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year
uhm there is a demand for technology jobs.
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Feynman on November 19, 2007, 02:53:54 PM
So, what will you do when you get out of college?
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 19, 2007, 03:04:04 PM
Quote from: Bassir C. on November 19, 2007, 02:53:54 PM
So, what will you do when you get out of college?
o maybe i willl roam the hillz of urope


How the fuck should I know?  I started 2 months ago and you expect me to know what my plans are in 4 years?

Ideally it would be to get a job somewhere I can use the skills I gained.
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: guff on November 19, 2007, 03:35:19 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 19, 2007, 02:02:28 PM
Apple Certified Support Professional and some others
oh boy sure there's a high demand for that :|
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Title27GT on November 19, 2007, 03:36:36 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 19, 2007, 02:46:14 PM
No, I was joking when I said I'm going to college to get a degree in Computer Science.  psyduck;
uhm there is a demand for technology jobs.
YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE IS A DEMAND FOR IDIOTS LIKE YOU WHO ARE WILLING TO MAKE 30,000 DOLLARS A YEAR BECAUSE THEY'RE COMPUTER GEEKS AND THINK IT WOULD BE FUN TO WORK WITH THEM
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 19, 2007, 04:12:49 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 19, 2007, 03:36:36 PM
YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE IS A DEMAND FOR IDIOTS LIKE YOU WHO ARE WILLING TO MAKE 30,000 DOLLARS A YEAR BECAUSE THEY'RE COMPUTER GEEKS AND THINK IT WOULD BE FUN TO WORK WITH THEM
You're a dumbass.

I'm serious.
or maybe you forgot a few thousand (http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layoutscripts/swzl_salaryresults.asp?hdSearchByOption=0&hdLocationOption=0&hdViewAllRecords=0&hdJobTitle=Information%20Technology%20Manager&hdAjaxDisplaySection1=1&hdAjaxDisplaySection2=0&hdKeyword=Information%20Technology&rdbSearchByOption=0&hdJobCategory=IT03&hdGeoLocation=Salem,%20MA%2001970&hdZipCode=01970&hdStateMetro=23&hdCurrentPage=1&hdNarrowDesc=IT%20--%20All&ulm_input1=MA&salsource=swz_employer&hdSortBy=0&hdJobCode=IT10000246&hdJSBoolDisplayAdvertisement=true&hdAjaxKeyword=Information%20Technology&hdAjaxKeywordWithOR=#Information%23%20OR%20%23Technology%23&txtKeyword=Information%20Technology&keywords_all=Enter%20keywords&clickwatchname=ib_hotjobs_salary_br_click.gif)


or maybe if i don't want information technology
o look the average for this in my area is above 100k too. (http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layoutscripts/swzl_salaryresults.asp?hdSearchByOption=0&hdLocationOption=0&hdKeyword=Programmer&hdJobCategory=IT03&hdZipCode=01970&hdStateMetro=23&hdGeoLocation=Salem%2C+MA+01970&hdCurrentPage=1&hdViewAllRecords=0&hdSortBy=0&hdJobCode=IT10000200&hdJobTitle=Operating+Systems+Programmer+V&hdNarrowDesc=IT+--+All&hdJSBoolDisplayAdvertisement=false&rdbSearchByOption=0&txtKeyword=Programmer&hdAjaxDisplaySection1=1&hdAjaxDisplaySection2=0&hdAjaxKeyword=Information+Technology&hdAjaxKeywordWithOR=%23Information%23+OR+%23Technology%23&keywords_all=Enter+keywords&clickwatchname=ib_hotjobs_salary_br_click.gif&ulm_input1=MA&salsource=swz_employer)



but ya ur right

$100,000+ a year only 30,000 dollars am i right.

also do you lack the comprehension to realize how competitive the medical field is?



Once again you show how truly retarded you are when it comes to anything related to computers.
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: guff on November 19, 2007, 04:26:44 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 19, 2007, 04:12:49 PM
or maybe you forgot a few thousand (http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layoutscripts/swzl_salaryresults.asp?hdSearchByOption=0&hdLocationOption=0&hdViewAllRecords=0&hdJobTitle=Information%20Technology%20Manager&hdAjaxDisplaySection1=1&hdAjaxDisplaySection2=0&hdKeyword=Information%20Technology&rdbSearchByOption=0&hdJobCategory=IT03&hdGeoLocation=Salem,%20MA%2001970&hdZipCode=01970&hdStateMetro=23&hdCurrentPage=1&hdNarrowDesc=IT%20--%20All&ulm_input1=MA&salsource=swz_employer&hdSortBy=0&hdJobCode=IT10000246&hdJSBoolDisplayAdvertisement=true&hdAjaxKeyword=Information%20Technology&hdAjaxKeywordWithOR=#Information%23%20OR%20%23Technology%23&txtKeyword=Information%20Technology&keywords_all=Enter%20keywords&clickwatchname=ib_hotjobs_salary_br_click.gif)
or maybe if i don't want information technology
o look the average for this in my area is above 100k too. (http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layoutscripts/swzl_salaryresults.asp?hdSearchByOption=0&hdLocationOption=0&hdKeyword=Programmer&hdJobCategory=IT03&hdZipCode=01970&hdStateMetro=23&hdGeoLocation=Salem%2C+MA+01970&hdCurrentPage=1&hdViewAllRecords=0&hdSortBy=0&hdJobCode=IT10000200&hdJobTitle=Operating+Systems+Programmer+V&hdNarrowDesc=IT+--+All&hdJSBoolDisplayAdvertisement=false&rdbSearchByOption=0&txtKeyword=Programmer&hdAjaxDisplaySection1=1&hdAjaxDisplaySection2=0&hdAjaxKeyword=Information+Technology&hdAjaxKeywordWithOR=%23Information%23+OR+%23Technology%23&keywords_all=Enter+keywords&clickwatchname=ib_hotjobs_salary_br_click.gif&ulm_input1=MA&salsource=swz_employer)
but ya ur right
$100,000+ a year only 30,000 dollars am i right.
also do you lack the comprehension to realize how competitive the medical field is?
Once again you show how truly retarded you are when it comes to anything related to computers.
so uh what certifications do you need for those
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 19, 2007, 04:45:19 PM
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 19, 2007, 04:26:44 PM
so uh what certifications do you need for those
lets see

first one is information technology so being certified in windows, os x, and linux couldn't hurt since you're never sure which system they will be using.


the other one is a programming job, and i linked to an os programmer and its pretty obvious that having knowledge of different operating systems will halp there
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: guff on November 19, 2007, 05:12:11 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 19, 2007, 04:45:19 PM
lets see

first one is information technology so being certified in windows, os x, and linux couldn't hurt since you're never sure which system they will be using.


the other one is a programming job, and i linked to an os programmer and its pretty obvious that having knowledge of different operating systems will halp there
okay then get those problem solved thread over glad i could help
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Title27GT on November 19, 2007, 06:46:22 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 19, 2007, 04:12:49 PM
You're a dumbass.

I'm serious.
or maybe you forgot a few thousand (http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layoutscripts/swzl_salaryresults.asp?hdSearchByOption=0&hdLocationOption=0&hdViewAllRecords=0&hdJobTitle=Information%20Technology%20Manager&hdAjaxDisplaySection1=1&hdAjaxDisplaySection2=0&hdKeyword=Information%20Technology&rdbSearchByOption=0&hdJobCategory=IT03&hdGeoLocation=Salem,%20MA%2001970&hdZipCode=01970&hdStateMetro=23&hdCurrentPage=1&hdNarrowDesc=IT%20--%20All&ulm_input1=MA&salsource=swz_employer&hdSortBy=0&hdJobCode=IT10000246&hdJSBoolDisplayAdvertisement=true&hdAjaxKeyword=Information%20Technology&hdAjaxKeywordWithOR=#Information%23%20OR%20%23Technology%23&txtKeyword=Information%20Technology&keywords_all=Enter%20keywords&clickwatchname=ib_hotjobs_salary_br_click.gif)


or maybe if i don't want information technology
o look the average for this in my area is above 100k too. (http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layoutscripts/swzl_salaryresults.asp?hdSearchByOption=0&hdLocationOption=0&hdKeyword=Programmer&hdJobCategory=IT03&hdZipCode=01970&hdStateMetro=23&hdGeoLocation=Salem%2C+MA+01970&hdCurrentPage=1&hdViewAllRecords=0&hdSortBy=0&hdJobCode=IT10000200&hdJobTitle=Operating+Systems+Programmer+V&hdNarrowDesc=IT+--+All&hdJSBoolDisplayAdvertisement=false&rdbSearchByOption=0&txtKeyword=Programmer&hdAjaxDisplaySection1=1&hdAjaxDisplaySection2=0&hdAjaxKeyword=Information+Technology&hdAjaxKeywordWithOR=%23Information%23+OR+%23Technology%23&keywords_all=Enter+keywords&clickwatchname=ib_hotjobs_salary_br_click.gif&ulm_input1=MA&salsource=swz_employer)



but ya ur right

$100,000+ a year only 30,000 dollars am i right.

also do you lack the comprehension to realize how competitive the medical field is?



Once again you show how truly retarded you are when it comes to anything related to computers.


Cool really because the medical profession is heavily, heavily understaffed and maybe if you weren't such a fucking dumbass and didn't spend your time on internet forums you would have gotten off your ass in high school and wouldn't be going to such a shitty college and might have an opportunity to make some money instead of linking me to statistics on fields that I know you're a)not smart enough and b)not hard working enough to enter



& u dun kn0w stuff ab0u7 c0mput3rz ur dum
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 19, 2007, 07:29:32 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 19, 2007, 06:46:22 PM
Cool really because the medical profession is heavily, heavily understaffed and maybe if you weren't such a fucking dumbass and didn't spend your time on internet forums you would have gotten off your ass in high school and wouldn't be going to such a shitty college and might have an opportunity to make some money instead of linking me to statistics on fields that I know you're a)not smart enough and b)not hard working enough to enter



& u dun kn0w stuff ab0u7 c0mput3rz ur dum

Okay you're a complete dumbass.

I got accepted to UAT and UMass.  I can barely afford my school, you fucking retard.   That's why I go here.  Not everyone grows up in a nice condo in New York, and goes around pretending to be all bad ass. 

If you think that going to internet forums instead of focusing on working prevents you from going to a good college, allow me to do you the favor a preventing you from hindering your future in the medical field.


Explain how $100,000+, which is well above the median income here, in a field that I'd actually enjoy  is better then not much more money in a field that costs much more to get into( college is more expensive, and much longer), pays only slightly more, and that I wouldn't enjoy at all?

Not everyone is a capitalist faggot whose only goal in life is to make as much money as possible regardless of whether or not they want to do what they are doing.


Now, as you said, going to internet forums instead of studying prevents you from going to college. I wouldn't want you to miss out on your chance at Yale, little boy.  I'll do you the favor of banning you.
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Samus Aran on November 19, 2007, 07:39:59 PM
Title, if you want to grow up and be something that you hate, be my guest. I'm not trying to sound all mushy or anything, but doing what you want really is a great path to happiness.

JMV likes computers and wants to work with them. So fucking what? Let him. He doesn't seem to care if he doesn't make some extra cash, so why even bring that up? A person should do what they want in life, not what is dictated by money (unless money is all that makes you happy).

Quit being a dumbass. Not everyone wants to work in the medical field.
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Auburn on November 19, 2007, 07:42:05 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 19, 2007, 07:29:32 PM
Okay you're a complete dumbass.

I got accepted to UAT and UMass.  I can barely afford my school, you fucking retard.   That's why I go here.  Not everyone grows up in a nice condo in New York, and goes around pretending to be all bad ass. 

If you think that going to internet forums instead of focusing on working prevents you from going to a good college, allow me to do you the favor a preventing you from hindering your future in the medical field.


Explain how $100,000+, which is well above the median income here, in a field that I'd actually enjoy  is better then not much more money in a field that costs much more to get into( college is more expensive, and much longer), pays only slightly more, and that I wouldn't enjoy at all?

Not everyone is a capitalist faggot whose only goal in life is to make as much money as possible regardless of whether or not they want to do what they are doing.


Now, as you said, going to internet forums instead of studying prevents you from going to college. I wouldn't want you to miss out on your chance at Yale, little boy.  I'll do you the favor of banning you.

I'm going to do you the favor of saying this only once:

I didn't grow up in a nice condo in New York, I grew up in Southern Texas with a single mother with 4 kids. We rent the goddamn apartment, get it right.

If you had read my post, you would know that I clearly stated that I didn't trust your work ethic or intelligence to make that much in that particular field. And to be honest, I'm not so wrong in thinking that. Just because you're taking a god damn course at some god damn middle-of-nowhere school in Massachusetts does not mean you're going to be making $100,000. I don't know who told you that you could, but it's not going to happen. There IS such thing as scholarships, but that would require hard work, something that you're made clear you were not capable of doing. And don't pull the "I don't care about money" string. You DO care about money, and you would be making 500,000 dollars a year if you could, but you're not going to. You're not going to make 100,000, I'll guarantee you that. But go ahead and ban someone, because that'll make it all better ^_^
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 19, 2007, 07:47:16 PM
Quote from: Auburn on November 19, 2007, 07:42:05 PM
I'm going to do you the favor of saying this only once:

I didn't grow up in a nice condo in New York, I grew up in Southern Texas with a single mother with 4 kids. We rent the goddamn apartment, get it right.

If you had read my post, you would know that I clearly stated that I didn't trust your work ethic or intelligence to make that much in that particular field. And to be honest, I'm not so wrong in thinking that. Just because you're taking a god damn course at some god damn middle-of-nowhere school in Massachusetts does not mean you're going to be making $100,000. I don't know who told you that you could, but it's not going to happen. There IS such thing as scholarships, but that would require hard work, something that you're made clear you were not capable of doing. And don't pull the "I don't care about money" string. You DO care about money, and you would be making 500,000 dollars a year if you could, but you're not going to. You're not going to make 100,000, I'll guarantee you that. But go ahead and ban someone, because that'll make it all better ^_^


Salem State College is one of the largest state colleges in Massachusetts, you retard. It's far from a middle of nowhere school.   Last time I checked, Salem is pretty close to Boston and is well known.  If you paid attention in history you'd understand that.

And I did get a scholarship, but it only covers TUITION. 

wahawhwaha
No, money is not my number one concern.   I'm not you.

And I can assure you that  I could easily make 100k after graduation.


also dodging ban lol


Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 19, 2007, 11:17:57 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 19, 2007, 07:47:16 PM
And I can assure you that  I could easily make 100k after graduation.
lol jaykay

Just knowing a bit about other operating systems won't land you the strenuous job of building up a new operating system.
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 20, 2007, 09:56:25 AM
Quote from: Lawlz on November 19, 2007, 11:17:57 PM
lol jaykay

Just knowing a bit about other operating systems won't land you the strenuous job of building up a new operating system.
this coming from the guy who has no plans to go to college

I was providing that job as an example.  psyduck;


He claimed that a computer science degree would only get you a job that would not get anything more than 30,000 dollars, which is significantly lower then the starting pay for many computer science jobs.  I provided examples of 2, out of many, jobs that have well over that. 


Title's philosophy is that if you are not working in a job where you cannot make the maximum amount of money, you are lazy and have no motivation.   Title's logic states that Politicians, Teachers, Police Officers, Soldiers, Clergy, Scientists, and many other jobs that are important to our society are the result of lazy people. 


He thinks that maximizing your salary is the only way to achieve happiness, which is completely retarded.     Sure, having extra money is a nice thing, but there is no need to make your only goal in life to make as much money as possible.    Being happy with what you do should be more important.    Not everyone needs to be in the Capitalist class, or the Upper class, to be happy.   

His belief that the medical field is far more important because it pays more and "it's understaffed" mixed together the flawed capitalist logic that money is everything and the flawed communist logic of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

The work force should subscribe to "from each according to his ability, to each according to his deeds", if you are good at something and enjoy it, that is what you should do.    You shouldn't do a job just because it is good for a society.  You shouldn't do a job just because it pays a lot.




I realized that money isn't the most important thing before I was 14.    The fact that Title has yet to realize this shows how truly blind and stupid he is.    I may be lazy but at least I'm not doomed to the fate of never realizing that capitalism is flawed.   

Title's view of intelligence and success is based on where you go to college, how big your pay check is, what you do for a job.   Such a viewpoint only shows complete ignorance.  While Title may think that a future with a larger paycheck may make him better than me, I will have something he'll never have: The ability to think freely.     His entire view on life revolves on what others think of him.    Having lots of money will make people love him.   Not letting people know he uses internet forums protects his "social status" in school, even when he denies knowing some one from the internet.


Sure, he may have financial success, but he will never gain intellectual success.   
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Title27GT on November 20, 2007, 02:15:12 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 19, 2007, 07:47:16 PM
Salem State College is one of the largest state colleges in Massachusetts, you retard. It's far from a middle of nowhere school.   Last time I checked, Salem is pretty close to Boston and is well known.  If you paid attention in history you'd understand that.

And I did get a scholarship, but it only covers TUITION. 

wahawhwaha
No, money is not my number one concern.   I'm not you.

And I can assure you that  I could easily make 100k after graduation.


also dodging ban lol



Well, gosh, Darma, that Salem was included in those witch stories, right? Let's go check out the colleges there!
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Title27GT on November 20, 2007, 02:19:31 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 20, 2007, 09:56:25 AM
this coming from the guy who has no plans to go to college

I was providing that job as an example.  psyduck;


He claimed that a computer science degree would only get you a job that would not get anything more than 30,000 dollars, which is significantly lower then the starting pay for many computer science jobs.  I provided examples of 2, out of many, jobs that have well over that. 


Title's philosophy is that if you are not working in a job where you cannot make the maximum amount of money, you are lazy and have no motivation.   Title's logic states that Politicians, Teachers, Police Officers, Soldiers, Clergy, Scientists, and many other jobs that are important to our society are the result of lazy people. 


He thinks that maximizing your salary is the only way to achieve happiness, which is completely retarded.     Sure, having extra money is a nice thing, but there is no need to make your only goal in life to make as much money as possible.    Being happy with what you do should be more important.    Not everyone needs to be in the Capitalist class, or the Upper class, to be happy.  

His belief that the medical field is far more important because it pays more and "it's understaffed" mixed together the flawed capitalist logic that money is everything and the flawed communist logic of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

The work force should subscribe to "from each according to his ability, to each according to his deeds", if you are good at something and enjoy it, that is what you should do.    You shouldn't do a job just because it is good for a society.  You shouldn't do a job just because it pays a lot.




I realized that money isn't the most important thing before I was 14.    The fact that Title has yet to realize this shows how truly blind and stupid he is.    I may be lazy but at least I'm not doomed to the fate of never realizing that capitalism is flawed.  

Title's view of intelligence and success is based on where you go to college, how big your pay check is, what you do for a job.   Such a viewpoint only shows complete ignorance.  While Title may think that a future with a larger paycheck may make him better than me, I will have something he'll never have: The ability to think freely.     His entire view on life revolves on what others think of him.    Having lots of money will make people love him.   Not letting people know he uses internet forums protects his "social status" in school, even when he denies knowing some one from the internet.


Sure, he may have financial success, but he will never gain intellectual success.   
And what would you describe as intellectual success? I would describe it as knowing that you worked to your potential and got into a good college which would open up a lot of opportunities to go into a lot of fields. The fact I have done my work with a little bit of pride in high school and am on my way to getting into a good college does not mean I only care about money, it means I want the freedom to be recognized by employers and have an opportunity to make a damn good life for myself
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 20, 2007, 02:45:39 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 20, 2007, 02:15:12 PM
Well, gosh, Darma, that Salem was included in those witch stories, right? Let's go check out the colleges there!
When you live in a city it's not really looking for a college there.
You claimed that I picked a college in the middle of no where.  I stated that Salem isn't in the middle of nowhere and that it was one of the largest State Colleges in the state(i dunno if you ignored that part intentionally)

Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 20, 2007, 02:19:31 PM
And what would you describe as intellectual success? I would describe it as knowing that you worked to your potential and got into a good college which would open up a lot of opportunities to go into a lot of fields. The fact I have done my work with a little bit of pride in high school and am on my way to getting into a good college does not mean I only care about money, it means I want the freedom to be recognized by employers and have an opportunity to make a damn good life for myself
No, that's just pride. Also, having the freedom to by recognized by employers and having an opportunity to make a damn good life seems to be entirely about money.

Explain how going to college for something in the medical field, like you gave an example of earlier, gives you any more of a freedom to be recognized by Employers than a computer science degree would be?


It's not like you can suddenly take that medical degree and become a Lawyer because you paid more to go to college.    You are going to be in the medical field  if you go to medical school.   You are granted no more freedom than a person who would get the CS degree.

And $100,000+ doing something you enjoy isn't a good life for yourself?


Also, the intellectual success I was referring to was having the intellect to think for yourself and realizing there is more to life then a salary.



Once again. Explain how going to a better college and getting a degree in something suddenly gives you access to a whole lot more fields then a person who went to a decent college.


I'm pretty sure a law firm will pick the graduate from a small Law School over the graduate from Oxford who majored in English or Physics.    I'm curious as to how you can think that going to a better school gives you the ability to work in more fields.

Sure it helps you more in that specific field when you are going for the initial job.    But that stays within the field you went to school for.
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Title27GT on November 20, 2007, 02:50:20 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 20, 2007, 02:45:39 PM
When you live in a city it's not really looking for a college there.
You claimed that I picked a college in the middle of no where.  I stated that Salem isn't in the middle of nowhere and that it was one of the largest State Colleges in the state(i dunno if you ignored that part intentionally)
No, that's just pride. Also, having the freedom to by recognized by employers and having an opportunity to make a damn good life seems to be entirely about money.

Explain how going to college for something in the medical field, like you gave an example of earlier, gives you any more of a freedom to be recognized by Employers than a computer science degree would be?


It's not like you can suddenly take that medical degree and become a Lawyer because you paid more to go to college.    You are going to be in the medical field  if you go to medical school.   You are granted no more freedom than a person who would get the CS degree.

And $100,000+ doing something you enjoy isn't a good life for yourself?


Also, the intellectual success I was referring to was having the intellect to think for yourself and realizing there is more to life then a salary.



Once again. Explain how going to a better college and getting a degree in something suddenly gives you access to a whole lot more fields then a person who went to a decent college.


I'm pretty sure a law firm will pick the graduate from a small Law School over the graduate from Oxford who majored in English or Physics.    I'm curious as to how you can think that going to a better school gives you the ability to work in more fields.

Sure it helps you more in that specific field when you are going for the initial job.    But that stays within the field you went to school for.
Like I said, I don't trust you to work your way up far enough to make 100,000 dollars a year. Having a Medical Degree won't make you as flexible, but you're still going to make around 500,000 dollars a year.
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Feynman on November 20, 2007, 02:55:51 PM
Studying for medicine takes up many many years of just school and preparation, and the starting salary isn't even that good. Besides, once you work your way up to a higher salary, your schedule will not permit you to have said "good life".
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Title27GT on November 20, 2007, 03:00:08 PM
Quote from: Bassir C. on November 20, 2007, 02:55:51 PM
Studying for medicine takes up many many years of just school and preparation, and the starting salary isn't even that good. Besides, once you work your way up to a higher salary, your schedule will not permit you to have said "good life".
maybe if you didn't keep bringing up the medical profession this discussion wouldn't keep going off course
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 20, 2007, 03:02:29 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 20, 2007, 02:50:20 PM
Like I said, I don't trust you to work your way up far enough to make 100,000 dollars a year. Having a Medical Degree won't make you as flexible, but you're still going to make around 500,000 dollars a year.
Are you retarded?  The charts I showed you are the AVERAGE salaries.   Even if I make less than average, I would be making more than 100,000. 

Also, nice job suddenly switching what you said.  Now suddenly going to a good school doesn't make you flexible.  o wait there is that nice sum of money you mentioned as not being important.
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 20, 2007, 03:00:08 PM
maybe if you didn't keep bringing up the medical profession this discussion wouldn't keep going off course
You first brought it up.  psyduck;


Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Title27GT on November 20, 2007, 03:10:59 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 20, 2007, 03:02:29 PM
Are you retarded?  The charts I showed you are the AVERAGE salaries.   Even if I make less than average, I would be making more than 100,000. 

Also, nice job suddenly switching what you said.  Now suddenly going to a good school doesn't make you flexible.  o wait there is that nice sum of money you mentioned as not being important. You first brought it up.  psyduck;



What? Are you fucking retarded? You asked me how going to Med School will make you flexible and I said it wouldn't make you as flexible but you're still going to be making around 500,000 dollars a year.
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: unwelc0med on November 20, 2007, 03:19:15 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 20, 2007, 03:10:59 PM
What? Are you fucking retarded? You asked me how going to Med School will make you flexible and I said it wouldn't make you as flexible but you're still going to be making around 500,000 dollars a year.

Damn that's a lot
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Feynman on November 20, 2007, 03:23:09 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 20, 2007, 03:10:59 PM
you're still going to be making around 500,000 dollars a year.


Yeah, if you're working a 24-hour shift and constantly treating/diagnosing/whatever. Stop being an idiot, no you wont.
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 20, 2007, 03:39:44 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 20, 2007, 03:10:59 PM
What? Are you fucking retarded? You asked me how going to Med School will make you flexible and I said it wouldn't make you as flexible but you're still going to be making around 500,000 dollars a year.
And you said that going to a good college would make you more flexible.


Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Title27GT on November 20, 2007, 06:11:19 PM
Quote from: Bassir C. on November 20, 2007, 03:23:09 PM
Yeah, if you're working a 24-hour shift and constantly treating/diagnosing/whatever. Stop being an idiot, no you wont.
cool how did we afford this apartment

Because I know my now dying father was making more than 200,000 dollars when he was working.


Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 20, 2007, 06:37:02 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 20, 2007, 06:11:19 PM
cool how did we afford this apartment

Because I know my now dying father was making more than 200,000 dollars when he was working.



huh the apartment you live in costs so much that you need more than 200,000 dollars? 

u want sum sympathy.



Also, I'd like to introduce an interesting concept to you.   It's something called "Cost of Living", I don't think you understand that it varies by State.

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2005/05/standard-of-living-by-state.html


it seems that cost of living in massachusetts is higher than that of new york, so just because something may not pay well in ny doesn't mean it pays the same here.

also, new york has a significantly higher population.   so while doctors may be highly demanded and highly paid in New York it doesn't mean that such a policy applies throughout the whole nation.   


but i forgot the new york was the whole country to the local economic conditions are that of everywhere. stupid jmv
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Title27GT on November 20, 2007, 06:49:45 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 20, 2007, 06:37:02 PM
it seems that cost of living in massachusetts is higher than that of new york,.  
Our apartment would've cost 1.2 million dollars to buy psyduck;

http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/18/real_estate/buying_selling/most_expensive_places/index.htm

cool

apparently a family would need to spend 137.9% more than your average American town...
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 20, 2007, 07:00:00 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 20, 2007, 06:49:45 PM
Our apartment would've cost 1.2 million dollars to buy psyduck;

http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/18/real_estate/buying_selling/most_expensive_places/index.htm

cool

apparently a family would need to spend 137.9% more than your average American town...
last time i checked new york and massachusetts were both states.


i also know for a fact that manhattan isn't the only location in the state of new york
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Title27GT on November 20, 2007, 07:05:49 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 20, 2007, 07:00:00 PM
last time i checked new york and massachusetts were both states.


i also know for a fact that manhattan isn't the only location in the state of new york
Cool the rest of the state doesn't concern me so I don't see what point you're trying to make
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 20, 2007, 07:10:22 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 20, 2007, 07:05:49 PM
Cool the rest of the state doesn't concern me so I don't see what point you're trying to make

oh because you don't care about the rest of new york it suddenly negates the fact that the state of massachusetts is more expensive than the state of new york.


the fact that local economies differ still is in effect.



Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 20, 2007, 07:13:25 PM
Also, you said that you bought your apartment.

Does that mean you actually own it and have property rights to the apartment?
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Title27GT on November 20, 2007, 07:14:11 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 20, 2007, 07:13:25 PM
Also, you said that you bought your apartment.

Does that mean you actually own it and have property rights to the apartment?
Yes.
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 20, 2007, 07:15:28 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 20, 2007, 07:14:11 PM
Yes.
Then that's a condo, which you said you don't live in.  psyduck;
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Title27GT on November 20, 2007, 07:16:27 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 20, 2007, 07:15:28 PM
Then that's a condo, which you said you don't live in.  psyduck;
I just call it an apartment psyduck;
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 20, 2007, 07:18:53 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 20, 2007, 07:16:27 PM
I just call it an apartment psyduck;
oh okie its a condo though.

But it's okay I don't expect you to know that since the laws dealing with property ownership are a bit confusing.


so babe sup
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Title27GT on November 20, 2007, 07:21:40 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 20, 2007, 07:18:53 PM
oh okie its a condo though.

But it's okay I don't expect you to know that since the laws dealing with property ownership are a bit confusing.


so babe sup
lets fuck
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Daddy on November 20, 2007, 07:22:13 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 20, 2007, 07:21:40 PM
lets fuck
ok lets go do it in a locked thread
Title: Re: How useful will it be?
Post by: Title27GT on November 20, 2007, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 20, 2007, 07:22:13 PM
ok lets go do it in a locked thread
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