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Title: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 24, 2018, 04:14:55 PM
i used this map as a template but i suppose you can use whatever map you want

(https://i.imgur.com/9X7QUFb.png)

and here's what i came up with lol:

(https://i.imgur.com/yvgxrtf.png)

i suppose i wouldn't change much but there are a few glaringly obvious problems that i did fix

-all of the nyc metro area now rightfully belongs to new york state

-cleaned up the mess of microstates in new england: new york gets vermont, maine gets new hampshire, and massachusetts/rhode island/connecticut all get merged into connectichusetts island

-the western half of hideously deformed maryland goes to west virginia, giving wv a generous, much-needed coastline along chesapeake bay

-the eastern half of maryland gets combined with the remainder of new jersey and all of delaware to become new marywaresey

-tidy the borders between virginia/kentucky/north carolina/tennessee

-deuglify north carolina-georgia border

-deuglify the florida-alabama border (alabama deserves a little more coastline imo)

-deuglify the mississippi-louisiana border

-deuglify the wisconsin-minnesota border

-deuglify missouri

-combine arkansas and oklahoma (practically indistinguishable already anyway) so that there isn't a giant, almost perfectly vertical and completely arbitrary line splitting the us in half (the mississippi river split can stay because at least it's a natural boundary)

-restore texas to approximately its glorious original dimensions along the rio grande, give the balance of new mexico to arizona (sorry new mexico)

-deuglify the california-nevada border

in total we go from 50 to 42 states and get a much more æsthetic map

Unfortunately, F*DERALISM makes this all all but impossible. :'(
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 24, 2018, 04:16:02 PM
and don't worry about our external borders

(https://i.imgur.com/6dCPKgL.png)

https://boyah.net/forums2/index.php/topic,69773.0.html

I've already perfected those. :3
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: ClassicTyler on August 24, 2018, 06:12:27 PM
More Texas is as God intended. I approve.
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: bluaki on August 24, 2018, 06:15:32 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 24, 2018, 04:16:02 PMand don't worry about our external borders

I've already perfected those. :3
if you're stealing that much territory you might as well annex all of mexico, hispaniola, and west canada
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: C.Mongler on August 24, 2018, 07:11:37 PM
Can we just nuke West Virginia? Why in fucks name are they getting MORE????
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 24, 2018, 09:07:50 PM
I actually really like America's internal borders. I think east of the Mississippi is especially neat the way it all fits together with all the panhandles and stuff. There's something cozy about it.

It might be that I was obsessed with geography as a kid (and still as an adult, to a slightly lesser degree), so for some reason a US map has a nostalgic value with me, but I dunno man. I just like it.
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 24, 2018, 09:08:18 PM
also tec your new Northeast is a fucking monstrosity and I hate it
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 24, 2018, 09:14:50 PM
The only things I might change:


Nothing else really bothers me enough to mention, and even these don't really bother me.
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 24, 2018, 09:43:49 PM
Quote from: ClassicTyler on August 24, 2018, 06:12:27 PMMore Texas is as God intended. I approve.

texas was so much better looking before the f*ds butchered it :'(

Quote from: bluaki on August 24, 2018, 06:15:32 PMif you're stealing that much territory you might as well annex all of mexico

i'm so glad that somebody agrees :'(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_of_Mexico_Movement

Quote from: bluaki on August 24, 2018, 06:15:32 PMhispaniola

ehh

Quote from: bluaki on August 24, 2018, 06:15:32 PMand west canada

ehh

if we take hispaniola we may as well take the rest of the caribbean and i wouldn't necessarily want that, and if we take west canada we may as a well take all of canada and i wouldn't necessarily want that

But what parts of West Canada would you take? sillydood;
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: reeper on August 24, 2018, 09:44:40 PM
I can't believe you tore out the four corners Tec
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 24, 2018, 09:58:05 PM
Quote from: reeper on August 24, 2018, 09:44:40 PMI can't believe you tore out the four corners Tec
someone had to do it
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 24, 2018, 10:22:40 PM
Quote from: C.Mongler on August 24, 2018, 07:11:37 PMCan we just nuke West Virginia? Why in fucks name are they getting MORE????

the feds owe a great loyalty to wv

it's the only state that seceeded from the confederate rebels in order to stick with the north lol

it has earned its right to exist, much more so than most other states tbh

and it would look so much better with a generous chesapeake coastline, from which it would greatly benefit economically also (i mean jesus CHRIST we need to wean those guys off the coal dust somehow)
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: bluaki on August 24, 2018, 10:35:09 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 24, 2018, 09:43:49 PMif we take hispaniola we may as well take the rest of the caribbean and i wouldn't necessarily want that, and if we take west canada we may as a well take all of canada and i wouldn't necessarily want that

But what parts of West Canada would you take? sillydood;
That's kinda the point I was going for: if you're taking Cuba and the bahamas in addition to keeping puerto rico, you already have most of the Caribbean landmass

Whatever parts of Canada it takes to connect Alaska to the mainland. Or just give Alaska to Canada, either in full or at least that long and narrow stretch of its southeast.
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 25, 2018, 02:17:59 AM
alright guys hear me out:

arklahoma y/n
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 25, 2018, 02:24:38 AM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 24, 2018, 09:07:50 PMI actually really like America's internal borders. I think east of the Mississippi is especially neat the way it all fits together with all the panhandles and stuff. There's something cozy about it.

It might be that I was obsessed with geography as a kid (and still as an adult, to a slightly lesser degree), so for some reason a US map has a nostalgic value with me, but I dunno man. I just like it.

for the most part i like it too lol, but it could be better with just a few small tweaks

in fact, that about sums up how i feel about america in general lol

but there's relatively little that i changed, geographically at least sillydood;

my problem with mississippi is that it just suddenly becomes angular and imbalanced in the south, but i agree that panhandles can be neat and cozy

for example

Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 24, 2018, 09:14:50 PMGive West Virginia's west and east panhandles to Ohio and Maryland, respectively

NO

wv's panhandles give it its distinctive character and make it feel nice and snug in its spot lol

in fact, wv needs more/bigger panhandles

Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 24, 2018, 04:14:55 PM-the western half of hideously deformed maryland goes to west virginia, giving wv a generous, much-needed coastline along chesapeake bay
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 25, 2018, 02:29:06 AM
Let's compromise and hand Maryland's panhandle over to WV
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 25, 2018, 02:57:35 AM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 24, 2018, 09:08:18 PMalso tec your new Northeast is a fucking monstrosity and I hate it

hmmm, i see what you mean befuddlement

(https://i.imgur.com/sDPPbGk.png)

How does this make you feel? y/n

this is a lot more sensible because a significant portion of the nyc metro area would be in connectichusetts island anyway, but all of it should be one unit

this would also resolve the identity problem upstate new yorkers have

we could call this new state new vermachussicut island, we state residents could all call ourselves vermachussicutters, and keep the name new york in reference to the city alone lol
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 25, 2018, 03:13:47 AM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 24, 2018, 09:14:50 PM
  • Give Long Island to New Jersey

(https://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/ugly.gif)

Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 24, 2018, 09:14:50 PM
  • Make the Upper Peninsula its own state or hand it over to Wisconsin

it's too remote and tiny population-wise to be its own state, and appending it to wisconsin would uglify wisconsin

honestly i kind of like that michigan has the unique distinction of being made up of a pair of separate peninsulas lol, i don't know if i would change that in any way

Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 24, 2018, 09:14:50 PM
  • Give Missouri's nubbin to Arkansas

wrench;

Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 24, 2018, 09:14:50 PM
  • Sand down the whole Alabama-Georgia-Florida border in general

What do you mean by this? befuddlement

Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 24, 2018, 09:14:50 PM
  • Give Georgia's dangly bit up top to South Carolina rather than North Carolina

i actually tried this initially but it's still kind of unpleasant

(https://i.imgur.com/WyLutxr.png)

i think it looks better as a part of nc, but i guess either option is better than having it dangle off georgia myface;
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 25, 2018, 03:36:31 AM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 25, 2018, 02:57:35 AM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 24, 2018, 09:08:18 PMalso tec your new Northeast is a fucking monstrosity and I hate it

hmmm, i see what you mean befuddlement

(https://i.imgur.com/sDPPbGk.png)

How does this make you feel? y/n

this is a lot more sensible because a significant portion of the nyc metro area would be in connectichusetts island anyway, but all of it should be one unit

this would also resolve the identity problem upstate new yorkers have

we could call this new state new vermachussicut island, we state residents could all call ourselves vermachussicutters, and keep the name new york in reference to the city alone lol
I hate everything about this
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 25, 2018, 03:51:16 AM
Maybe Vermachussicutian is more to your liking? y/n
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 25, 2018, 04:00:01 AM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 24, 2018, 09:58:05 PM
Quote from: reeper on August 24, 2018, 09:44:40 PMI canÃÆ'Ã,¢Ã¢ââ,¬Å¡Ã,¬Ã¢ââ,¬Å¾Ã,¢t believe you tore out the four corners Tec
someone had to do it

srsly

they were a conspicuously unnatural formation to begin with

Quote from: bluaki on August 24, 2018, 10:35:09 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 24, 2018, 09:43:49 PMif we take hispaniola we may as well take the rest of the caribbean and i wouldn't necessarily want that, and if we take west canada we may as a well take all of canada and i wouldn't necessarily want that

But what parts of West Canada would you take? sillydood;
That's kinda the point I was going for: if you're taking Cuba and the bahamas in addition to keeping puerto rico, you already have most of the Caribbean landmass

Whatever parts of Canada it takes to connect Alaska to the mainland. Or just give Alaska to Canada, either in full or at least that long and narrow stretch of its southeast.

i'm not necessarily going for map completion, i only want to annex the territories that make the most geographical/economic/historical/cultural sense

so that includes cuba and the bahamas, but not hispaniola lol

likewise, it includes small snippets of quebec, coastal east canada and vancouver island, but not any large part of western canada

british colombia would already be frustrated enough with me for having taken their capital LOL, i can't afford to take any more of bc for alaska's sake

it would be great if there were at least a usa-accessible highway or series of bridges that connected the mainland directly with alaska, though, but we don't need whole canadian provinces for that

Quote from: bluaki on August 24, 2018, 10:35:09 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 24, 2018, 09:43:49 PMBut what parts of West Canada would you take? sillydood;
Or just give Alaska to Canada, either in full or at least that long and narrow stretch of its southeast.

oh god NO

every square inch of alaska is critically important and i refuse to give up so much as a slice of our arctic access just to tidy the border

alaska is to the rest of the usa as the moon is to earth: without it we'd be absolutely nothing
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: bluaki on August 25, 2018, 04:22:39 AM
Quote from: reeper on August 24, 2018, 09:44:40 PMI can't believe you tore out the four corners Tec
this post inspired me to create this monstrosity that will make tec cringe so hard:

(https://i.imgur.com/jwSvB1T.png)

the eight corners akudood;

edit: made some additional enhancements
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 25, 2018, 04:51:27 AM
Quote from: bluaki on August 25, 2018, 04:22:39 AM
Quote from: reeper on August 24, 2018, 09:44:40 PMI can't believe you tore out the four corners Tec
this post inspired me to create this monstrosity that will make tec cringe so hard:

(https://i.imgur.com/jwSvB1T.png)

the eight corners akudood;

edit: made some additional enhancements


oh my god lol putindisapproves;

it hurts

but i like how mexico gets involved in the mix lol
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 25, 2018, 04:52:34 AM
and oh my god how could you give alaska's panhandle away

what has louisiana done to deserve that extra coastline

and oh my god what did alabama ever do to you >.<
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: bluaki on August 25, 2018, 05:10:43 AM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 25, 2018, 04:52:34 AMand oh my god how could you give alaska's panhandle away

what has louisiana done to deserve that extra coastline

and oh my god what did alabama ever do to you >.<
I just gave Florida/Louisiana/Alabama/Mississippi their own four corners for good measure

and gave Canada a piece of Minnesota and Wisconsin half of Michigan. Basically deliberately making changes you'd hate. sillydood;

I also considered doing that four corners thing to Tennessee/Kentucky/Arkansas/Missouri but forgot to.

Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 25, 2018, 04:51:27 AMbut i like how mexico gets involved in the mix lol
at first I was easily able to get 7 states in there, but I wanted a nicer round number and it would've been too forced to stretch texas or california into that mess, then I saw that little protruding notch sticking out of new mexico as the perfect place to just take a slice out of the country and make the border so much more complicated
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 25, 2018, 05:21:03 AM
it's truly vile lmao >.<

you could also easily make a four corners out of kentucky/virginia/tennessee/north carolina, but i appreciate that you had mercy not to do that myface;

actually come to think of it, if it were something other than a perfectly longitudinal line, a four corners among those states might not even look so bad
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: bluaki on August 25, 2018, 05:34:17 AM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 25, 2018, 05:21:03 AMit's truly vile lmao >.<

you could also easily make a four corners out of kentucky/virginia/tennessee/north carolina, but i appreciate that you had mercy not to do that myface;

actually come to think of it, if it were something other than a perfectly longitudinal line, a four corners among those states might not even look so bad
I'd sooner make one out of Kansas+Missouri and either Nebraska+Iowa or Oklahoma+Arkansas.

also how could I forget to split California into three
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 25, 2018, 04:49:45 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 25, 2018, 03:51:16 AMMaybe Vermachussicutian is more to your liking? y/n
New England is perfect and also go fuck yourself
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: ME## on August 25, 2018, 05:09:54 PM
Give everything north of the Grand Canyon to Utah/Nevada.  For example if I wanted to get to Littlefield, AZ (a town in the SAME COUNTY as me) the quickest route involves me going through California AND Nevada to get there in a totally reasonable three and a half hours /s

Being part of Nevada would probably help them not be totally forgotten (hell I wouldn't be surprised if most Phoenicans didn't even realize that I-15 cuts into Arizona since it's so remote up there)
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: reeper on August 25, 2018, 06:51:09 PM
Quote from: bluaki on August 25, 2018, 04:22:39 AM
Quote from: reeper on August 24, 2018, 09:44:40 PMI can't believe you tore out the four corners Tec
this post inspired me to create this monstrosity that will make tec cringe so hard:

(https://i.imgur.com/jwSvB1T.png)

the eight corners akudood;

edit: made some additional enhancements
think of the tourism
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 25, 2018, 08:53:38 PM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 25, 2018, 02:29:06 AMLet's compromise and hand Maryland's panhandle over to WV

Just the panhandle? cry;

maryland is the ugliest and most poorly balanced state, it's the one most desperately in need of redemarcated borders

it looks like it was made of small strips of land left over from the states surrounding it

and delaware is almost equally as offensive

a state in that region should at the very least take up the whole delmarva peninsula (or at least every part that doesn't belong to virginia) and not just some awkward angular corner of it myface;
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 25, 2018, 09:00:18 PM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 25, 2018, 04:49:45 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 25, 2018, 03:51:16 AMMaybe Vermachussicutian is more to your liking? y/n
New England is perfect and also go fuck yourself

it would be even more perfect if ny were a part of it, i am admittedly a little jealous that we got left out of the new england club wry

Quote from: bluaki on August 25, 2018, 05:34:17 AMalso how could I forget to split California into three

smithicide;
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 25, 2018, 09:04:17 PM
Quote from: David on August 25, 2018, 05:09:54 PMGive everything north of the Grand Canyon to Utah/Nevada.  For example if I wanted to get to Littlefield, AZ (a town in the SAME COUNTY as me) the quickest route involves me going through California AND Nevada to get there in a totally reasonable three and a half hours /s

Being part of Nevada would probably help them not be totally forgotten (hell I wouldn't be surprised if most Phoenicans didn't even realize that I-15 cuts into Arizona since it's so remote up there)

all valid concerns, but appending so much of arizona to nevada would make for a really unattractive map lol

give it all to utah and bring them one step closer to making deseret a reality y/n

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Deseret
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: don't let's on August 25, 2018, 09:13:22 PM
There's laws against panhandling 
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: YPrrrr on August 25, 2018, 10:47:10 PM
Give the UP to Wisconsin

Delaware becomes part of Maryland

Rhode Island becomes part of Connecticut

The Dakotas are combined

Montana, Wyoming, Idaho are combined
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 25, 2018, 10:59:48 PM
Quote from: YPrrrr on August 25, 2018, 10:47:10 PMGive the UP to Wisconsin

NO

i'm particularly fond of the way michigan just completely cucks wisconsin out of having a border with canada lol

Quote from: YPrrrr on August 25, 2018, 10:47:10 PMDelaware becomes part of Maryland

I'm okay with this.

Quote from: YPrrrr on August 25, 2018, 10:47:10 PMRhode Island becomes part of Connecticut

I'm okay with this.

Quote from: YPrrrr on August 25, 2018, 10:47:10 PMThe Dakotas are combined

2big

Quote from: YPrrrr on August 25, 2018, 10:47:10 PMMontana, Wyoming, Idaho are combined

2big
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: reeper on August 26, 2018, 12:17:03 AM
Quote from: bluaki on August 25, 2018, 05:34:17 AMalso how could I forget to split California into three
fuck this so much, as a California resident I am so against this. I'm honestly under the impression that California would be more possible to succeed from the union rather than become divided.
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 26, 2018, 12:25:07 AM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 25, 2018, 09:00:18 PM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 25, 2018, 04:49:45 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 25, 2018, 03:51:16 AMMaybe Vermachussicutian is more to your liking? y/n
New England is perfect and also go fuck yourself

it would be even more perfect if ny were a part of it, i am admittedly a little jealous that we got left out of the new england club wry
new york is new holland not new england
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 26, 2018, 01:52:59 AM
Quote from: reeper on August 26, 2018, 12:17:03 AM
Quote from: bluaki on August 25, 2018, 05:34:17 AMalso how could I forget to split California into three
fuck this so much, as a California resident I am so against this.

honestly fuck; the idiots who keep proposing this

https://boyah.net/forums2/index.php/topic,69745.0.html

Quote from: reeper on August 26, 2018, 12:17:03 AMIââ,¬â,,¢m honestly under the impression that California would be more possible to succeed from the union rather than become divided.

But even I would infinitely prefer California be divided than separated out entirely. (https://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/ugly.gif)
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 26, 2018, 01:55:03 AM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 26, 2018, 12:25:07 AMnew york is new holland not new england

i guess but it's a lonely, largely unrecognized club that isn't nearly as cool as new england awdood;
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: YPrrrr on August 26, 2018, 06:01:50 AM
Upstate New York is more like Pennsylvania than New England anyway
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 26, 2018, 06:08:21 AM
Sure, just rub it in, why don't you. smithicide;
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: C.Mongler on August 27, 2018, 11:58:07 AM
maryland be fine if we just gave it delaware. delaware fucking sucks. the only remarkable thing is no sales tax.
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: YPrrrr on August 27, 2018, 12:01:11 PM
Delaware is still living off being the first state. They've done nothing noteworthy since.

In fact they only exist as a part of a Maryland/Pennsylvania border dispute
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 27, 2018, 12:04:44 PM
oh my god

how's this as a name for the combined west maryland/west virginia

virgin maria y/n
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: C.Mongler on August 27, 2018, 12:08:50 PM
things in delaware:


thats IT. there's nothing else there. it's just all empty land. the last time i drove through bumfuck deleware i saw 3 confederate flags. you IDIOTS were in the fucking union what are you doing (though i guess you still had slaves regardless, so oorah).

give willmington and north to PA, then give the scraps to maryland I SAY
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: C.Mongler on August 27, 2018, 12:09:12 PM
oh apaprently bullet points dont work in boyah 2.0 how the FUCK am i supposed to make a well structured argument??? 
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: YPrrrr on August 27, 2018, 12:13:44 PM
Quote from: C.Mongler on August 27, 2018, 12:08:50 PMthings in delaware:

  • Willmington, a city with no notable landmarks and only 72,000 residents, less than my dumpy ass hick college town
  • Beaches, which in fairness, are pretty decent. there's lots of pizza stands

thats IT. there's nothing else there. it's just all empty land. the last time i drove through bumfuck deleware i saw 3 confederate flags. you IDIOTS were in the fucking union what are you doing (though i guess you still had slaves regardless, so oorah).

give willmington and north to PA, then give the scraps to maryland I SAY
Pennsylvanians are also fond of the confederate battle flag sadly. Just about as dumb as Delaware but with a bit more importance
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 27, 2018, 03:20:56 PM
Quote from: C.Mongler on August 27, 2018, 12:09:12 PMoh apaprently bullet points dont work in boyah 2.0 how the FUCK am i supposed to make a well structured argument???
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Thyme on August 27, 2018, 03:45:02 PM
Quote from: C.Mongler on August 27, 2018, 12:09:12 PMoh apaprently bullet points dont work in boyah 2.0 how the FUCK am i supposed to make a well structured argument???

lol it did work it just set it to list-style-type: none; for some reason


https://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/List
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 27, 2018, 03:46:53 PM
Quote from: Thyme on August 27, 2018, 03:45:02 PM
Quote from: C.Mongler on August 27, 2018, 12:09:12 PMoh apaprently bullet points dont work in boyah 2.0 how the FUCK am i supposed to make a well structured argument???

lol it did work it just set it to list-style-type: none; for some reason

  • Rocky IV
  • Rocky
  • Rocky II
  • Rocky III
  • Rocky V

https://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/List
i fixed that list for you
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Thyme on August 27, 2018, 03:47:23 PM
lmao agreed
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: don't let's on August 27, 2018, 04:05:20 PM
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Quote from: C.Mongler on August 27, 2018, 12:09:12 PMoh apaprently bullet points dont work in boyah 2.0 how the FUCK am i supposed to make a well structured argument???
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Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: C.Mongler on August 27, 2018, 04:05:43 PM
wtf lol this website is WEIRD


lol apparently it default assings list the type 'none' so you have to delete that from the source wtf lol
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: don't let's on August 27, 2018, 04:11:37 PM
Maybe it's the wysiwyg
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 27, 2018, 04:18:32 PM
I have a major distaste for WYSIWYG editors
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: C.Mongler on August 27, 2018, 04:47:52 PM
p sure half this site's shenanigans stem from the WYSIWYG tbh lol
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Nyerp on August 27, 2018, 05:07:24 PM
i think this site gave my computer some nasty delaware
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: C.Mongler on August 27, 2018, 05:55:47 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on August 27, 2018, 05:07:24 PM
nasty delaware

(https://thumb.ibb.co/gcy7dU/funkymonk_AY.png)
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 27, 2018, 11:54:49 PM
Quote from: YPrrrr on August 27, 2018, 12:13:44 PMPennsylvanians are also fond of the confederate battle flag sadly. Just about as dumb as Delaware but with a bit more importance

>pennsylstan
>important

maybe 200+ years ago lol
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: YPrrrr on August 28, 2018, 03:44:33 AM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 27, 2018, 11:54:49 PM
Quote from: YPrrrr on August 27, 2018, 12:13:44 PMPennsylvanians are also fond of the confederate battle flag sadly. Just about as dumb as Delaware but with a bit more importance

>pennsylstan
>important

maybe 200+ years ago lol
I said bit more than Delaware hocuspocus;

Also actually matters in every national election
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 28, 2018, 04:02:14 AM
Quote from: YPrrrr on August 28, 2018, 03:44:33 AMAlso actually matters in every national election

Much to the rest of the nation's chagrin. >_<'
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: YPrrrr on August 28, 2018, 04:05:54 AM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 28, 2018, 04:02:14 AM
Quote from: YPrrrr on August 28, 2018, 03:44:33 AMAlso actually matters in every national election

Much to the rest of the nation's chagrin. >_<'
I know I hate Pennsylvania too you don't need to convince me n_u
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 28, 2018, 04:09:15 AM
i don't hate pennsylstan

it's just a little backwards and drab

i mean they don't call it "pittsburgh" for nothing
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on August 28, 2018, 04:16:34 AM
Quote from: Nyerp on August 27, 2018, 05:07:24 PMi think this site gave my computer some nasty delaware
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Daddy on August 28, 2018, 07:21:01 AM
Why would new york get the tons of states in New England instead of just merging the NE states together?

It's especially weird that you merged states into Maine and NY despite ME's historic status as part of Massachusetts until 1820

Culturally, with the exception of western CT, all of the New England states are much more homogeneous with Massachusetts than NY, even when it comes to upstate NY.
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Daddy on August 28, 2018, 07:25:32 AM
also why leave ND and SD as distinct states (land area aside) when they're barely more of a state than tiny-ass rhode island

tec sucks at maps

leave maps to david
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: YPrrrr on August 28, 2018, 08:10:43 AM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Steinberg_New_Yorker_Cover.png)
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 28, 2018, 08:44:44 AM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 28, 2018, 07:21:01 AMIt's especially weird that you merged states into Maine and NY despite ME's historic status as part of Massachusetts until 1820

i mean, do you personally think it'd make more sense to merge maine back into massachusetts than to merge maine with new hampshire lol

That never made any geographical sense. >.<

Quote from: Khadafi on August 28, 2018, 07:21:01 AMall of the New England states are much more homogeneous with Massachusetts than NY

Quote from: Khadafi on August 28, 2018, 07:21:01 AMeven when it comes to upstate NY.

Again, you guys don't have to rub it in. smithicide;

tfw no wealthy but down-to-earth yuppie WASP gf with whomst to pursue a finance degree at amherst in anticipation of being nepotized into her father's business, go clam fishing with on a picturesque summer afternoon, and have a seafood bake among happy, well-established, high-income friends and family by evening awdood;

tfw her father will never invite you on a golfing holiday, just the two of you, and place his hand on your ralph lauren polo-enclad back while you're mid-prep for the next swing of club, taking the opportunity to not only invite you into the family business with a smile, but also give you permission to propose to his daughter with the very same pearl you found during the aforementioned clam fishing as an engagement gift awdood;

not that you would have needed his approval anyway but you do like and respect the guy and as much as you hate to admit it, having his explicit consent to her hand really does bring you immense joy and satisfaction that you now struggle to contain, your sheer elation now evident in how wonky your previously steady golf swing has become awdood;
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Daddy on August 28, 2018, 08:53:03 AM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 28, 2018, 08:44:44 AM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 28, 2018, 07:21:01 AMIt's especially weird that you merged states into Maine and NY despite ME's historic status as part of Massachusetts until 1820

i mean, do you personally think it'd make more sense to merge maine back into massachusetts than to merge main with new hampshire lol

That never made any geographical sense. >.<




If you're rewriting state borders as such, it makes much more sense to merge all of New England into 1 state than merging them into 3 states that still end up with vastly different populations and land areas.  What's the point of having Newyorkmont, Maine Hampshire, and Massanetticut Island instead of just a "New England" and "New York"?

It seems to make infinitely more sense to divide them into 2 states with 55k sqm with a population of 19.85 million (NY) and 72k sqm with a population of 14.7 million (new england) than whatever you get from NY+VT, ME+NH, and MA+CT+RI
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: YPrrrr on August 28, 2018, 08:54:41 AM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 28, 2018, 08:44:44 AM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 28, 2018, 07:21:01 AMIt's especially weird that you merged states into Maine and NY despite ME's historic status as part of Massachusetts until 1820

i mean, do you personally think it'd make more sense to merge maine back into massachusetts than to merge main with new hampshire lol

That never made any geographical sense. >.<

Quote from: Khadafi on August 28, 2018, 07:21:01 AMall of the New England states are much more homogeneous with Massachusetts than NY

Quote from: Khadafi on August 28, 2018, 07:21:01 AMeven when it comes to upstate NY.

Again, you guys don't have to rub it in. smithicide;

tfw no wealthy but down-to-earth yuppie WASP gf with whomst to pursue a finance degree at amherst in anticipation of being nepotized into her father's business, go clam fishing with on a picturesque summer afternoon, and have a seafood bake among happy, well-established, high-income friends and family by evening awdood;

tfw her father will never invite you on a golfing holiday, just the two of you, and place his hand on your ralph lauren polo-enclad back while you're mid-prep for the next swing of club, taking the opportunity to not only invite you into the family business with a smile, but also give you permission to propose to his daughter with the very same pearl you found during the aforementioned clam fishing as an engagement gift awdood;

not that you would have needed his approval anyway but you do like and respect the guy and as much as you hate to admit it, having his explicit consent to her hand really does bring you immense joy and satisfaction that you now struggle to contain, your sheer elation now evident in how wonky your previously steady golf swing has become awdood;
Do you have a dad fetish too
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 28, 2018, 09:06:52 AM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 28, 2018, 07:25:32 AMalso why leave ND and SD as distinct states (land area aside)

for the sole reason that that would be really ugly

(http://tinyimg.io/i/9KcoFTW.png)

otherwise yes they don't really have any right to be separate states, but combining them uglifies the map

Quote from: Khadafi on August 28, 2018, 07:25:32 AMwhen they're barely more of a state than tiny-ass rhode island

Are you suggesting that we make every population center of ~1 million its own state? putindisapproves;

Quote from: Khadafi on August 28, 2018, 07:25:32 AMleave maps to david

i have been eagerly awaiting his own redrawn map of america
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Daddy on August 28, 2018, 09:14:04 AM
It's not any uglier than boxachusetts and whatever wacky thing you did to Vermont akudood;
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: don't let's on August 28, 2018, 09:30:48 AM
Just have 4 states that correspond with the timezones.  Or I guess 6 because of Hawaii and Alaska.
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 28, 2018, 10:14:15 AM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 28, 2018, 08:53:03 AMWhat's the point of having Newyorkmont, Maine Hampshire, and Massanetticut Island instead of just a "New England" and "New York"?

for the sole reason that, again, that would also be absolutely hideous

(http://tinyimg.io/i/CvBViBU.png)

Æsthetix do matter when it comes to drawing maps, guys. :|

...and also i want in on the new england club >.<

but fine, i suppose even something like this would be preferable to the current situation

(http://tinyimg.io/i/pguIwXj.png)

So I guess you can keep your hip wealthy exclusive club to yourselves if you want. cry;

tfw no WASP gf :'(

It bothers me so that upstate NY morphed into Pennsylstan Lite and not something more like Vermont. smithicide;

nonetheless i will still be taking western connecticut and eastern pennsylstan and northern new jersey thank you very much, those regions are new york city proper

Quote from: Khadafi on August 28, 2018, 09:14:04 AMIt's not any uglier than boxachusetts and whatever wacky thing you did to Vermont akudood;

and yeah double dakota definitely is uglier than either of those lol

it's much more conspicuous as a gigantic rectangle smack dab in the middle of the country, and worse yet, it's vertically oriented

connectichusetts island is much less offensive to the eye because it's horizontally oriented lol
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Daddy on August 28, 2018, 10:26:26 AM
It's only hideous because you're used to seeing state borders there.

i mean look at michigan, missouri, ohio, idaho, or new york
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 28, 2018, 11:32:21 AM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 28, 2018, 10:26:26 AMIt's only hideous because you're used to seeing state borders there.

i don't think it's strictly a matter of familiarity

maryland and delaware for example have looked the way they do for hundreds of years and yet i still think they're absolutely hideous lol

Quote from: Khadafi on August 28, 2018, 10:26:26 AMi mean look at michigan, missouri, ohio, idaho, or new york

i agree that there are some minor issues with michigan's southern border but it really is a pretty minimal problem, and there's no good/obvious way to tweak it

otherwise though i quite like michigan in its current form lol

missouri is undeniably hideous, yes, but i already made sure to at least slightly deuglify it in my original map

i don't really mind ohio but i do wonder what you'd change about it

and i absolutely love the way idaho looks lol, i mean what's not to like about that giant chimney prodding into canada, i wouldn't change a thing about idaho

but nu-york is indeed cartographically unpleasant, yes, and that's exactly what i'm trying to fix :|

and naturally that requires some shifting of the borders with nu-york's neighbors

lots of the other states have smaller imperfections, but for the most part they're pretty minimal

i'm only here to correct the biggest problems with our map
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 28, 2018, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: YPrrrr on August 28, 2018, 08:54:41 AMDo you have a dad fetish too

jesus christ no lol myface;

i am extremely picky about men and no male with their own children could possibly meet my strict criteria

i don't want wasp gf's dad, i just secretly want his friendship and approval in proposing to his daughter >.<
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Daddy on August 28, 2018, 12:00:02 PM
You mean new York's ugly border with Canada as opposed to new England's ugly border with...The ocean ?
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 28, 2018, 12:03:49 PM
...i mean the hideous, almost perfectly longitudinal border separating nu-york from new england lol

and that's exactly what i changed

there's very little anyone could do about the border with canada without making it even worse, and that's not even the side i take issue with
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: bluaki on August 28, 2018, 03:02:40 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 28, 2018, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: YPrrrr on August 28, 2018, 08:54:41 AMDo you have a dad fetish too

jesus christ no lol myface;

i am extremely picky about men and no male with their own children could possibly meet my strict criteria
What about Joel in Last of Us? sillydood;
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 28, 2018, 04:04:50 PM
Quote from: bluaki on August 28, 2018, 03:02:40 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 28, 2018, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: YPrrrr on August 28, 2018, 08:54:41 AMDo you have a dad fetish too

jesus christ no lol myface;

i am extremely picky about men and no male with their own children could possibly meet my strict criteria
What about Joel in Last of Us? sillydood;

joel is extremely good looking for his age and i can totally see why someone might have the urge to call him 'daddy' sillydood;

however, i personally have no interest whatsoever in the 'daddy' archetype lol

on that note, you should play tlou n_n
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 28, 2018, 09:02:20 PM
TIL tec is a gayboy
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 29, 2018, 11:04:53 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Kx1HQKR.png)

alright there i fixed it :|

this compromise is less than ideal for new york (still cartographically ugly) but it should make everyone at least somewhat happy

all of new york city is now in new york state as it should be, and arguably taking that slice of connecticut back would make new york at least partially new england, so now maybe i could now sneak my way into the club

vermont is no longer landcucked and now has direct atlantic access through what used to be new hampshire

maine remians maine, it fought hard for its independence from m*ssachusetts and i suppose it'd be rude of me to take it away (it's sufficiently large of a landmass anyway)

and the three remaining tiny coastal states get merged into one so that the northeast doesn't look quite so busy compared to the rest of the country
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 29, 2018, 11:11:47 AM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 28, 2018, 09:02:20 PMTIL tec is a gayboy

well, it is technically possible that i am so picky about men that none would meat my strict criteria in practice girl;
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 29, 2018, 11:40:31 AM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 29, 2018, 11:04:53 AM(https://i.imgur.com/Kx1HQKR.png)

alright there i fixed it :|

this compromise is less than ideal for new york (still cartographically ugly) but it should make everyone at least somewhat happy

all of new york city is now in new york state as it should be, and arguably taking that slice of connecticut back would make new york at least partially new england, so now maybe i could now sneak my way into the club

vermont is no longer landcucked and now has direct atlantic access through what used to be new hampshire

maine remians maine, it fought hard for its independence from m*ssachusetts and i suppose it'd be rude of me to take it away (it's sufficiently large of a landmass anyway)

and the three remaining tiny coastal states get merged into one so that the northeast doesn't look quite so busy compared to the rest of the country
Please unfuck New England before I refuck your mom
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 29, 2018, 11:41:11 AM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 29, 2018, 11:40:31 AMPlease unfuck New England

I have already done as you ask. girl;
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 29, 2018, 12:17:02 PM
Oh no there I go blasting your mom again
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: don't let's on August 29, 2018, 12:30:30 PM
Just ship new England back off to old England
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Daddy on August 30, 2018, 02:27:38 PM
Tec hates new England so he wants inferior states to look nicer
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 30, 2018, 02:35:13 PM
I don't hate New England. If anything I'm extremely envious of it. smithicide;

and blast that obnoxious connecticut panhandle cutting into my land
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Hiro on December 16, 2018, 03:38:53 PM
Man i tried to do this a few months ago and spent all night i on it but ended up unhappy with my results
Title: Re: In Which We Fix America's Ugly Internal Borders
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 25, 2018, 01:17:54 AM
Quote from: Hiro on December 16, 2018, 03:38:53 PMMan i tried to do this a few months ago and spent all night i on it but ended up unhappy with my results

post it anyway i'm curious y/n