Mainly making this thread because I want to gain more knowledge on what's going on in Ukraine and Russia and possible outcomes
ukraine hates gangster government and they dont want to be part of Ruska Bear Country No More.
why?? i do not know, russia gave ukraine much dirt to live off of thanks to Great Soviet Union. Now they no longer want to be part of mother-turn-fartherland even indirectly and want to turn to mcdonald-managed EU. So they want to kill all rich politicians so they can become part of poo poo EU.
Russian leader, Great Putin, in all his wisdom decided it time to secure important ukraine locations so they don't fall into the abyss by less-than-sane protesters. Anyone who tries a revolution is on the same sanity level of Generals and other military officials.
The Outcome will be the final holocaust that the cold war was too cold to supply. humanity will experience permanent death from the pouring of the 7 bowls of the Angels of the Apocalypse and the 7 Trumpets blowing by 7 more angels. Gabriel will come down to Earth so he may slaughter the rest of the survivors. YHWH will then create a new race of humans, better than ukrainians, japanese, americans, russians, jews, muslims, christians, etc. a new Lamb and start a 1000 year Reich under Christ. Then history will repeat as the devil tempts humans again with the forbidden fruit.
russia is seizing upon the weakness of the west to reclaim what is rightfully hers. just like germany did back in 1939
the other former soviet puppets are now (rightfully) shitscared and praying to god that the rest of nato steps in to help them lol
http://www.turkishpress.com/news/393234/
bulgaria's been having continuous protests since june of last year
all it'd take is russia plopping a few people into those crowds to initiate riots and they can reclaim their territory akudood;
http://news.sky.com/story/1220272/ukraine-russia-surrender-threat-confusion
AAAA AWESOME
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/LOUs47A.jpg)[/spoiler]
Quote from: Pancake Persona on March 01, 2014, 09:47:27 PM
all it'd take is russia plopping a few people into those crowds to initiate riots and they can reclaim their territory akudood;
exactly the the strategy they're employing in east ukraine right now
historically, it's not a bad one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudetenland
isn't it eerie how history repeats itself
[spoiler]
people warned others about hitler's real ambitions back in the day but they were laughed off by more 'respectable' politicians. romney warns us about russland and putin and all the buffoon in charge does is laugh at him and call him out-of-touch with reality HMMMMMMMMM[/spoiler]
Quote from: David on March 03, 2014, 01:30:16 PM
isn't it eerie how history repeats itself
[spoiler]
people warned others about hitler's real ambitions back in the the day but they were laughed off by more 'respectable' politicians. romney warns us about russland and putin and all the the buffoon in charge does is laugh at him and call him out-of-touch with reality HMMMMMMMMM[/spoiler]
#impeachObama
tbh more people like putin than obama
http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Udland/2014/03/03/03152357.htm
It's ok Pollocks big daddy Obama will protect u
http://wciom.ru/index.php?id=459&uid=114720
tl;dr even among the russian populace, who has a history of being unusually highly supportive of putin's every action, this is one of the most unpopular decisions putin has ever made, with 73% opposing the decision to intervene in ukraine
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/crimea-breaks-ties-with-ukraine/article17266761/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/we-control-everything-crimea-breaks-ties-with-ukraine/article17266761/)
lol i really love the wording of this headline
it reminds me of this
[spoiler][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkvhqhAC1Ac[/youtube][/spoiler]
except all of ukraine is alabama
anyway, a better infographic of the utter hopelessness of ukraine's predicament:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-04/ukraine-and-russia-the-military-imbalance/5298234
WORLD WAR III ADVERTED HURRAH
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/crimea-sets-referendum-on-joining-russia/2014/03/06/d06d8a46-a520-11e3-a5fa-55f0c77bf39c_story.html
Say goodbye to Khrushchev's generous gift, Ukraine. gimpdood;
http://scgnews.com/russia-threatens-to-drop-the-dollar-and-crash-the-us-economy-if-sanctions-are-imposed-obama-signs-sa
QuoteSergei Glazyev
he's a nobody
and rofl, "crash the us economy", russia couldn't hurt the us economically (by conventional means, at least) nearly as much as the us could hurt it
defaulting on their debts would be moderately painful for the us, but it would also greatly tarnish their credit ratings and cause their own economy to implode (again)
speaking of which
http://www.mediaite.com/online/obama-signs-order-declaring-ukraine-crisis-an-extraordinary-threat-to-national-security/
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/03/06/executive-order-blocking-property-certain-persons-contributing-situation
who's ready to get drafted
http://www.channel4.com/news/russia-cctv-crimea-journalists-attacked-paramilitaries
RIP bulgaria
every slavic country is about to sucked back into the black hole of russian hegemony they only so recently and so painstakingly escaped
Quote from: A Fatass Penguin Named Tec on March 07, 2014, 01:55:54 PM
every slavic country is about to sucked back into the black hole of russian hegemony they only so recently and so painstakingly escaped
are you forgetting the caucuses and the baltics lol
no, i didn't mention them because the caucuses are even less relevant than the slavic states are
the central asian countries are likely to get absorbed into the eurasian union too but i doubt there is a single person on this planet who has ever even heard of kyrgyzstan
also i wanted to emphasize the russian mentality of pan-slavism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Slavism) that has influenced russian international politics for the past millennium, the baltic and other non-slav states west of the border were just a neat bonus to them
i think because of this, of any post-soviet territory, the baltic states have the best chance to remain independent in a hypothetical scenario of further russian landgrabbing (even back during soviet times, they were the only ones for whom the world community was brave enough to declare soviet occupation de jure illegal)
Are we invading Ukraine for their natural gas yet
http://www.eurasianet.org/node/68112
Oh my goodness. sillydood;
ronpaul.gif
http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/us-deploys-fighter-jets-to-poland-lithuania_916922.html
cool
Quote from: A Fatass Penguin Named Tec on March 07, 2014, 03:43:52 PM
no, i didn't mention them because the caucuses are even less relevant than the slavic states are
the central asian countries are likely to get absorbed into the eurasian union too but i doubt there is a single person on this planet who has ever even heard of kyrgyzstan
also i wanted to emphasize the russian mentality of pan-slavism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Slavism) that has influenced russian international politics for the past millennium, the baltic and other non-slav states west of the border were just a neat bonus to them
i think because of this, of any post-soviet territory, the baltic states have the best chance to remain independent in a hypothetical scenario of further russian landgrabbing (even back during soviet times, they were the only ones for whom the world community was brave enough to declare soviet occupation de jure illegal)
every person that has ever used sporcle knows Kyrgyzstan n_u
If Russia tried to take any eu member it would definitely be world war iii if Ukraine isn't already
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/03/10/Russian-troops-fire-at-Ukraine-military-post.html
Noice
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/10/ukraine-nuclear/6250815/
and now that the world can see firsthand the result of ukraine voluntarily relinquishing its nukes for a now broken promise of absolute sovereignty, there is exactly no incentive for non-nuclear states to not develop weapons for themselves, as they have seen that they can't necessarily rely on the world's nuclear powers to protect them
[spoiler]
boyah's going to need some nuclear engineers[/spoiler]
Quote from: A Fatass Penguin Named Tec on March 10, 2014, 05:01:12 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/10/ukraine-nuclear/6250815/
and now that the world can see firsthand the result of ukraine voluntarily relinquishing its nukes for a now broken promise of absolute sovereignty, there is exactly no incentive for non-nuclear states to not develop weapons for themselves, as they have seen that they can't necessarily rely on the world's nuclear powers to protect them
[spoiler]
boyah's going to need some nuclear engineers[/spoiler]
lol either scenario is terrible.
protecting the ukraine from russia with military support will be unpopular and costly, but allowing a nation to freely develop nuclear weaponry for self-protection will send a bad message to the other crazies in the world goowan
and either scenario increases the overall threat of nuclear warfare
welp
Quote from: A Fatass Penguin Named Tec on March 10, 2014, 06:26:09 PM
and either scenario increases the overall threat of nuclear warfare
welp
what a time to be alive
It'll all be over soon enough.
Love our lord, Putin
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Ukraine-PM-Arseniy-Yatsenyuk-raises-nuclear-non-proliferation-alarm/articleshow/31968428.cms
lol
now rogue states like iran and best korea have absolutely no reason whatsoever to obey anyone who tells them to abandon their nuclear programs
i can't wait to see what the new nuclear arms race will bring
imagine if rogue states with bitter pasts like india and pakistan got their hands on nuclear weapons
tbh i think if iran got some nuclear weapons then israel would maybe back the fuck off
or israel would just be blown away
either one works
Quote from: Pancake Persona on March 13, 2014, 05:31:52 PM
tbh i think if iran got some nuclear weapons then israel would maybe back the fuck off
or israel would just be blown away
either one works
Israel is here to stay, Goy
Israel is best country
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-14/russia-is-preparing-to-invade-east-ukraine-estonia-says.html?cmpid=yhoo
headlines like this put a huge grin on my face giggle;
there are few things more satisfying than waking up to the fresh scent of war in the morning
also despite putin's rhetoric, east ukraine didn't like yanukovych either, and they too are extremely uncomfortable with russia's behavior in crimea
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/14/us-ukraine-crisis-poll-idUSBREA2D00E20140314
They'd better get used to it. They're next. :(
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/world/400049/50000-rally-in-moscow-against-crimea-intervention
these guys must be begging to be taken by the gulag
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-crisis-russia-seizes-town-outside-crimea-border-1.2574094
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/03/14/russias-lackey-belarus-mobilizes-its-military/
omglol
now putin is going to have the most spineless sock puppet in europe invade from the north
PRESS THE NUKE BUTTON OBAMAAAAAAA
You guys excited for the referendum tomorrow? (http://i.imgur.com/iKW0zl5.gif)(http://i.imgur.com/UXyI70T.gif)(http://i.imgur.com/yyPo2n7.gif)
Quote from: Tectron on March 15, 2014, 05:17:09 PM
You guys excited for the referendum tomorrow? (http://i.imgur.com/iKW0zl5.gif)(http://i.imgur.com/UXyI70T.gif)(http://i.imgur.com/yyPo2n7.gif)
as excited as possible yes'm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine
i can not wait until the map on this page has crimea shaded in light green and listed as a 'disputed territory' rofl
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSL6N0MD0FE20140316?irpc=932
Post pone WWIII for a couple more days
boriiiiing
also, as expected:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26598832
The vote was illegal and illegitimate because it was a decision by the people and not the US jewish bankers. Really though how are the US and EU calling it illegal when Ukraine is a part of neither
gg Crimea. You've managed to leave the second least developed country in Europe for something better
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/16/us-ukraine-crisis-russia-kiselyov-idUSBREA2F0XF20140316
HAHA YESSSSSS
OUT COME THE NUKE THREATS
another good quote by him
"[Gays] should be prohibited from donating blood, sperm,... And their hearts, in case they die in a car accident, should be buried or burned as unfit for extending anyone's life,"[2] suggesting that the internal organs of homosexuals should be burned and buried rather than be accepted for organ transplants.[
Quote from: Tectron on March 16, 2014, 08:04:07 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/16/us-ukraine-crisis-russia-kiselyov-idUSBREA2F0XF20140316
HAHA YESSSSSS
OUT COME THE NUKE THREATS
note: this is a journalist saying this
fox news is the republican party's bottom bitch but we still know that the bullshit they spout isn't official policy
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/ukrainian-government-refuses-to-remove-troops-from-crimea-prepares-for-war-339724.html
giggle;
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/putin-recognizes-crimean-independence-22946911
lol
now we sit and watch as every city in crimea is invariably named to putingrad or st. putinsberg
Quote from: Tectron on March 17, 2014, 04:52:10 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/putin-recognizes-crimean-independence-22946911
lol
now we sit and watch as every city in crimea is invariably named to putingrad or st. putinsberg
i'm sure the capital will be renamed as such lol
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26630062
http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php/news/world-news/154016-russia-s-president-putin-moves-towards-annexing-crimea
lol giggle;
and just like that, 5% of ukraine's land no longer belongs to it
[spoiler]
and soon, 10%[/spoiler]
http://www.bdlive.co.za/world/europe/2014/03/18/putins-approval-rating-soars-amid-stand-off-with-the-west
#Putin2016
Crimean officials say 97% of voters backed splitting from Ukraine in Sunday's controversial referendum.
imagine if québec were this unified
Quote from: Tectron on March 15, 2014, 05:29:33 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine
i can not wait until the map on this page has crimea shaded in light green and listed as a 'disputed territory' rofl
THEY UPDATED IT
(http://i.imgur.com/Ccee10z.png) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Europe-Ukraine.svg/2000px-Europe-Ukraine.svg.png)
AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME
AWESOME
today i read an editorial in our local paper because i was bored and it was basically fearmongering about how putin is going to be stalin 2.0 and starve ukranians to death
Stalin was good.
holodomor 2.0 would be a small price to pay for ukraine's shameless betrayal of mother russia, and for those pig-dog western imperialists of all people
http://maidantranslations.com/2014/03/17/turkey-under-ottoman-empire-treaty-with-catherine-the-great-if-crimea-declares-independence-it-returns-to-turkey/
oh god lol
if only turkey had the guts to actually invoke this ancient treaty and take crimea back for itself
Quote from: Tectron on March 18, 2014, 03:56:24 PM
http://maidantranslations.com/2014/03/17/turkey-under-ottoman-empire-treaty-with-catherine-the-great-if-crimea-declares-independence-it-returns-to-turkey/
oh god lol
if only turkey had the guts to actually invoke this ancient treaty and take crimea back for itself
oh god please do AWESOME
what about the treaty of moscow in 1921 voiding that
it really doesn't make a difference either way (unfortunately), as treaties made by the predecessors of russia and turkey are de facto null and void today
plus it's not like turkey would actually invoke that treaty even if it had the legal right to do so :'(
Quote"They tell us that we are violating the norms of international law. First of all, it's good that they at least remember that international law exists," Putin said, pointing at what he called the U.S. trampling of international norms in wars in Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya.
http://aol.com/article/2014/03/18/putin-signs-treaty-to-add-crimea-to-map-of-russia/20852268/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl7%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D455332#!slide=2491867
#shotsfired
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russia-eu-hampers-talks-ukraine-22964319
catch you on the flip side, crimea
[spoiler]
ukraine's new borders are so much uglier now :'([/spoiler]
(http://i.imgur.com/GbEOYF7.png) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Crimean_crisis#International_reactions)
[spoiler]
(http://i.imgur.com/L9OIbRm.png) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Crimean_crisis#International_reactions)[/spoiler]
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/19/us-russia-estonia-idUSBREA2I1J620140319
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida-Viru_CountyBy ethnic origin, 71.3% of population are Russians, 19.7% are Estonians, 2.7% are Ukrainians, 2.7% are Belarusians and 1.4% are Finns (as of January 1, 2009).
~~~lol~~~
If Russians came to Estonia shots would definitely be fired. Estonia hates those bastards more than almost every other country in the world
Someone PM me when the war starts
Quote from: Tectron on March 20, 2014, 03:19:44 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/19/us-russia-estonia-idUSBREA2I1J620140319
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida-Viru_CountyBy ethnic origin, 71.3% of population are Russians, 19.7% are Estonians, 2.7% are Ukrainians, 2.7% are Belarusians and 1.4% are Finns (as of January 1, 2009).
~~~lol~~~
lmao it was only a matter of time
are they going to simply use the same excuse for every annexation attempt from here on out?
Quote from: Nonon Jakuzure on March 20, 2014, 11:23:01 AM
Quote from: Tectron on March 20, 2014, 03:19:44 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/19/us-russia-estonia-idUSBREA2I1J620140319
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida-Viru_CountyBy ethnic origin, 71.3% of population are Russians, 19.7% are Estonians, 2.7% are Ukrainians, 2.7% are Belarusians and 1.4% are Finns (as of January 1, 2009).
~~~lol~~~
lmao it was only a matter of time
are they going to simply use the same excuse for every annexation attempt from here on out?
yes
http://www.eurasianet.org/node/68112
Quote from: Tectron on March 19, 2014, 09:24:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/GbEOYF7.png) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Crimean_crisis#International_reactions)
[spoiler]
(http://i.imgur.com/L9OIbRm.png) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Crimean_crisis#International_reactions)[/spoiler]
lol nice to see un-neutral swissland is
pack your bags, boys
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/03/russian-official-russia-will-regain-alaska-the-baltic-countries-finland-and-poland-2921534.html
It's time to go to war. snakedood;
Can't wait for that real life fallout sim to release
Quote from: David on March 20, 2014, 12:30:08 PM
Quote from: Tectron on March 19, 2014, 09:24:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/GbEOYF7.png) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Crimean_crisis#International_reactions)
[spoiler]
(http://i.imgur.com/L9OIbRm.png) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Crimean_crisis#International_reactions)[/spoiler]
lol nice to see un-neutral swissland is
i love how absolutely spineless china is
china would love nothing more than to condemn russia for its brazen irredentism because it hates the idea of having outsiders undermine its own territorial sovereignty (unsurprising when it has its own separatist movements lol), and more particularly because it leased a huge amount of farmland from ukraine last year (http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-china-leases-farmland/25114812.html), yet it can't do anything but sort of nervously accept russia's behavior because they're china's only powerful anti-'western' ally and betraying russia in this matter would weaken china's policy of western contrarianism lol
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/-UN-resolution-on-Crimea-Russia-vetoes-China-abstains/articleshow/32099623.cms
it's been a while since china and russia didn't vote exactly together on a unsc issue
Quote from: Tectron on March 20, 2014, 12:28:25 PM
Quote from: Nonon Jakuzure on March 20, 2014, 11:23:01 AM
Quote from: Tectron on March 20, 2014, 03:19:44 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/19/us-russia-estonia-idUSBREA2I1J620140319
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida-Viru_CountyBy ethnic origin, 71.3% of population are Russians, 19.7% are Estonians, 2.7% are Ukrainians, 2.7% are Belarusians and 1.4% are Finns (as of January 1, 2009).
~~~lol~~~
lmao it was only a matter of time
are they going to simply use the same excuse for every annexation attempt from here on out?
yes
http://www.eurasianet.org/node/68112
holy shit lol
quick, what's the percentage of ethnic russians living in alaska
sarah palin needs our help
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20130316/180055377.html
Quote from: Tectron on March 20, 2014, 02:14:01 PM
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20130316/180055377.html
seems like a legitimate reason to me
i wonder what the actual amount of russian orthodox members in alaska is though
Quote from: Nonon Jakuzure on March 20, 2014, 02:21:21 PM
Quote from: Tectron on March 20, 2014, 02:14:01 PM
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20130316/180055377.html
seems like a legitimate reason to me
i wonder what the actual amount of russian orthodox members in alaska is though
wikipedia says they're 12.5% of alaska's christian population
as they are below 50% they are a minority therefore obviously oppressed and putin must save them
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101506025
jesus christ, the last thing this world needs is more out-of-place russian exclaves
[spoiler]
maybe germany should take back konigsberg[/spoiler]
[spoiler]
not that they would really want it back[/spoiler]
please let bulgaria be the next country to have sudden pro-russia protests
i hope that china takes back its territories in russia
let's also give china their g8 seat AWESOME
i wonder if they're still bitter about outer manchuria
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuva
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixty-Four_Villages_East_of_the_Heilongjiang_River
im talking more about these two
ZHONGGUO WAN SUI
EGUO CAO NI MA
i do know that poor taiwan would love to reclaim some territory since lost to russia
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/V5leUXB.png)[/spoiler]
lol
I like how Taiwan claims a random part of a province in North Korea that The PRC does not itself claim.
also taiwan should shut up they belong to china akudood;
http://live.aljazeera.com/Event/Ukraine_liveblog/110118340
ah, good old russian pseudodemocracy scarecrowdood;
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26680250
Finally. wrench;
if yanukovych had only signed this way back in november like he was supposed to, none of this would have ever happened
[spoiler]
then again, we probably would have found him buried in a ditch somewhere with polonium in his system some time later[/spoiler]
[spoiler]
also the irony here is that russia's annexation of crimea only made it even more likely for ukraine to crawl away from russia and seek closer ties with the west, because
1. putin removed 1.5 million pro-russian ukrainians from ukraine's voter base
2. ukraine now knows exactly to what lengths russia is willing to go to maintain its interests and is terrified it might strike again in the future (and it will), thus they ~need~ the support of the west asap to keep russia from destroying them (again) lol[/spoiler]
Quote from: Tectron on March 21, 2014, 04:45:14 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26680250
Finally. wrench;
if yanukovych had only signed this way back in november like he was supposed to, none of this would have ever happened
[spoiler]
then again, we probably would have found him buried in a ditch somewhere with polonium in his system some time later[/spoiler]
[spoiler]
also the irony here is that russia's annexation of crimea only made it even more likely for ukraine to crawl away from russia and seek closer ties with the west, because
1. putin removed 1.5 million pro-russian ukrainians from ukraine's voter base
2. ukraine now knows exactly to what lengths russia is willing to go to maintain its interests and is terrified it might strike again in the future (and it will), thus they ~need~ the support of the west asap to keep russia from destroying them (again) lol[/spoiler]
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/73730000/jpg/_73730692_021613156-1.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia
Map updated. nyandood;
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2014/0321/Moscow-rattles-Estonia-with-talk-of-concern-for-its-Russian-population
They really are ramping up the rhetoric on Estonia, huh... goowan
Quote from: Tectron on March 22, 2014, 11:01:56 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia
Map updated. nyandood;
Unupdated? Russia doesn't have Crimea in link
russia and ukraine's articles are possibly in the middle of an edit war as a result of recent events
but right at the very moment, russia's map has crimea shaded in light green and its total reported area has been increased
http://www.tvp.info/14506221/duma-do-polskiego-msz-podzielmy-ukraine
lol oh my god
tl;dr vladimir zhirinovsky, who according to sources is
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Zhirinovsky
[...] a servant of Kremlin policy, used to float radical opinions to test public reaction.
sent a letter to the polish government proposing splitting ukraine between it, russia, and hungry hungary
Much like the clandestine Nazi German-Soviet collusion to jointly invade Poland and split it between the two of them just prior to WWII. sillydood;
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE
a fun read summarizing putin's ambitions: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/23/putin-s-dream-of-empire-doesn-t-stop-at-crimea-or-even-ukraine.html
[spoiler]
I told you guys. giggle;
IT'S HAPPENING[/spoiler]
[spoiler][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq8U2doKyzI[/youtube][/spoiler]
literally retarded
this is exactly the type of behavior putin is hoping to provoke so that he can justify a full-on invasion
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/03/24/uk-russia-economy-idUKBREA2N13S20140324
:)
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/politics/obama-europe-trip/index.html
G8 is now G7 lmao
russia was always the outlier in the g8 anyway
it was only ever allowed to join the club when boris yeltsin was making some promising strides towards westernized democracy, but putin has been happily erasing all his valiant efforts since 2005 awdood;
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/23/us-ukraine-crisis-russia-insight-idUSBREA2K07S20140323
http://bnn-news.com/pro-kremlin-forces-launch-activities-latvia-111523
tee hee giggle;
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-24/putin-s-debt-is-junk-to-traders-on-crimea-russia-credit.html
Quote[...] investors have already cut [Russia's] bonds to junk.
QuoteThe ratings companies revised their outlooks on the Russian sovereign to negative from stable last week, while affirming the rankings at BBB, their second-lowest investment grades.
:):):)
[spoiler]
Remember who else's economy was in shambles as a result of harsh sanctions prior to the onset of WWII? sillydood;[/spoiler]
Quote from: Tectron on March 24, 2014, 07:13:52 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-24/putin-s-debt-is-junk-to-traders-on-crimea-russia-credit.html
Quote[...] investors have already cut [Russia's] bonds to junk.
QuoteThe ratings companies revised their outlooks on the Russian sovereign to negative from stable last week, while affirming the rankings at BBB, their second-lowest investment grades.
:):):)
[spoiler]
Remember who else's economy was in shambles as a result of harsh sanctions prior to the onset of WWII? sillydood;[/spoiler]
The World Never Learns
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukraines-ex-pm-tymoshenko-take-arms-kill-russians-1441651
grandma timmy is off her rocker again
she must want russia to absorb the entire country
Quote from: Tectron on March 24, 2014, 07:53:36 PM
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukraines-ex-pm-tymoshenko-take-arms-kill-russians-1441651
grandma timmy is off her rocker again
she must want russia to absorb the entire country
lol time for her to end up dead in a ditch from polonium poisoning
p. much
and at this point, that would probably be the better of the two most extreme outcomes
http://rt.com/news/sashko-bily-dead-reports-013/
my immediate response to this is to say 'sweet', but i hope it doesn't create a sense of martyrdom within what remains of ukraine's far right and inspire them to redouble their efforts or further their extremism, as it would do irreparable damage to ukraine's credibility
despite being staunchly pro-ukrainian and anti-russian (to put it lightly), this guy and his followers were probably the single biggest potential hindrance to ukraine's international support, which it desperately needs atm, and hopefully with him out of the picture (and so long as it doesn't backfire) russia has even less of a legitimate pretext for destroying ukraine
lol rt.com
yeah i know but the story is nothing but a report on the death of an individual, there's not much room here for rt's pro-kremlin opinion
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/03/25/russia-wants-to-keep-contact-with-g7-nations
Can't have it both ways, Russia.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/25/us-russia-military-exercises-idUSBREA2O1KB20140325
lol
ukraine is now bordered by russia to the north, south, east and west
Quote from: Will Gregory on March 25, 2014, 06:08:17 PM
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/03/25/russia-wants-to-keep-contact-with-g7-nations
Can't have it both ways, Russia.
Quote"Russia is a regional power that is threatening some of its immediate neighbours, not out of strength but out of weakness," Obama said.
he's right, but
Quote"We (the United States) have considerable influence on our neighbours. We generally don't need to invade them in order to have a strong cooperative relationship with them."
i chuckled
Quote from: Tectron on March 25, 2014, 06:58:11 PM
Quote"We (the United States) have considerable influence on our neighbours. We generally don't need to invade them in order to have a strong cooperative relationship with them."
i chuckled
yeah how do canada and mexico really benefit from nafta
Quote from: Tectron on March 23, 2014, 08:41:32 PM
http://www.tvp.info/14506221/duma-do-polskiego-msz-podzielmy-ukraine
lol oh my god
tl;dr vladimir zhirinovsky, who according to sources is
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Zhirinovsky
[...] a servant of Kremlin policy, used to float radical opinions to test public reaction.
sent a letter to the polish government proposing splitting ukraine between it, russia, and hungry hungary
Much like the clandestine Nazi German-Soviet collusion to jointly invade Poland and split it between the two of them just prior to WWII. sillydood;
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE
You know I'm beginning to think maybe they just shot down that Polish plane with all the state officials for shits and giggles
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-26758788
The Cost of Change
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-26/obama-pitches-shale-gas-to-europe-seeking-to-cut-imports.html
this would be such a fine opportunity for us, if only these were more than just empty words
>you will never be the american equivalent of a saudi prince
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/27/us-ukraine-crisis-kosovo-idUSBREA2Q14V20140327
(http://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/srsly.png)
also i'm really loving canada's uncharacteristic aggression in all of this
http://globalnews.ca/news/1230531/canada-worried-about-serious-possibility-of-russian-invasion-in-ukraine-within-week/
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/canada-russian-return-change-23080743
certainly they would be much less vocal about putin's behavior if not for their recent arctic disputes with russia lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_Republic_of_Crimea#Recognition_of_referendum
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/OSD5GXB.png)[/spoiler]
Quote
Venezuela
Kazakhstan
Armenia
Kyrgyzstan
Uganda
Afghanistan
North Korea
Syria
Belarus
South Ossetia
Abkhazia
Nagorno-Karabakh Republic
what great company you have there russia lmao
ah, to be proudly amongst the world's failed states, sock puppets and non-countries
russia has truly restored her former glory
[spoiler]
also is it just me or is that map mistaking sudan for uganda
or maybe the list is incorrect
actually there's a lot of contradictions between the map and the list[/spoiler]
Quote from: Tectron on March 24, 2014, 10:39:02 PM
http://rt.com/news/sashko-bily-dead-reports-013/
my immediate response to this is to say 'sweet', but i hope it doesn't create a sense of martyrdom within what remains of ukraine's far right and inspire them to redouble their efforts or further their extremism, as it would do irreparable damage to ukraine's credibility
despite being staunchly pro-ukrainian and anti-russian (to put it lightly), this guy and his followers were probably the single biggest potential hindrance to ukraine's international support, which it desperately needs atm, and hopefully with him out of the picture (and so long as it doesn't backfire) russia has even less of a legitimate pretext for destroying ukraine
http://ukraineinvestigation.com/rights-sectors-storming-verhovna-rada/
fuck;
this is turning into one h*ck of a shitshow smithicide;
Quote from: Tectron on March 27, 2014, 08:33:23 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/27/us-ukraine-crisis-kosovo-idUSBREA2Q14V20140327
(http://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/srsly.png)
also i'm really loving canada's uncharacteristic aggression in all of this
http://globalnews.ca/news/1230531/canada-worried-about-serious-possibility-of-russian-invasion-in-ukraine-within-week/
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/canada-russian-return-change-23080743
certainly they would be much less vocal about putin's behavior if not for their recent arctic disputes with russia lol
harper wants to look like a trve leader before the upcoming elections
Quote from: [hedy]Zidone on March 28, 2014, 12:26:40 AM
Quote from: Tectron on March 27, 2014, 02:47:28 PM
Quote
Armenia
Wow, Armenia. Wow.
ikr awdood;
though i guess that shouldn't be too surprising, armenia is both a sock puppet and itself has irredentist ambitions in azerbaijan
Quote from: [hedy]Zidone on March 28, 2014, 12:26:40 AM
Quote from: Tectron on March 27, 2014, 02:47:28 PM
Quote
Armenia
Wow, Armenia. Wow.
should anybody be surprised by the nation that gave us great people like Cher and Anita sarkeesian and Kim kardashian? ? ?
Quote from: ncba93ivyase on March 28, 2014, 06:52:51 AM
Quote from: [hedy]Zidone on March 28, 2014, 12:26:40 AM
Quote from: Tectron on March 27, 2014, 02:47:28 PM
Quote
Armenia
Wow, Armenia. Wow.
should anybody be surprised by the nation that gave us great people like Cher and Anita sarkeesian and Kim kardashian? ? ?
what is wrong with cher
the problem is that she is an armenian sub human piece of shit.
Quote from: cybermancer on March 28, 2014, 07:46:47 AM
the problem is that she is an armenian sub human piece of shit.
think U Made A Typo
Quote from: ncba93ivyase on March 28, 2014, 08:33:25 AM
Quote from: cybermancer on March 28, 2014, 07:46:47 AM
the problem is that she is an armenian sub human piece of shit.
think U Made A Typo
when i was a kid and i first heard do you believe i genuine thought she was a man with a somewhat effeminate voice
Quote from: Thyme on March 28, 2014, 09:42:48 AM
Quote from: ncba93ivyase on March 28, 2014, 08:33:25 AM
Quote from: cybermancer on March 28, 2014, 07:46:47 AM
the problem is that she is an armenian sub human piece of shit.
think U Made A Typo
when i was a kid and i first heard do you believe i genuine thought she was a man with a somewhat effeminate voice
same lmao
http://www.nti.org/gsn/article/russia-nuclear-force-drill-saying-long-scheduled/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
time to dust out the bomb shelters
Quote from: Tectron on March 28, 2014, 01:19:13 AM
Quote from: [hedy]Zidone on March 28, 2014, 12:26:40 AM
Quote from: Tectron on March 27, 2014, 02:47:28 PM
Quote
Armenia
Wow, Armenia. Wow.
ikr awdood;
though i guess that shouldn't be too surprising, armenia is both a sock puppet and itself has irredentist ambitions in azerbaijan
wow, the rest of brics is a wank piece of poop. too scared to vote for or against this smgh
spineless weasels, the lot of them
you don't get to the top without stepping on some paws mother s*ckers
And Russia's necrotic paws need to be debrided before it zombifies its neighbors again. awdood;
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/vladimir-putin-wants-regain-finland-says-close-adviser-1442466
literally lol'd
[spoiler]
illarionov may be a nutcase, but putin said himself years ago he'd be "interested" in having finnistan "join" the neosoviet eurasian union
good luck with that russia lmao[/spoiler]
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2014/03/29/world/europe/29reuters-ukraine-crisis-un.html?ref=reuters
i giggled
what a non-surprise
and yet even with that, they still only managed to get the dregs of the world on their side rofl (though i'm sure it managed to sway a few would-be yea votes to abstentions)
Looks like there's a limit to Russia's bullshittery even among its closest puppets. lubdoods;
http://bbc.com/news/world-asia-26815041#TWEET1086222
Wooooooooo
Quote from: Sif on March 31, 2014, 07:31:16 AM
http://bbc.com/news/world-asia-26815041#TWEET1086222
Wooooooooo
wrong thread
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/31/ukraine-darth-vader-president-internet-party
please let him win. this would make this even more amazing
lolukraine
Quote from: Tectron on March 31, 2014, 04:07:48 PM
lolukraine
do you think they'd have to pay jorge lucas royalty fees? AWESOME
i'm not sure they could afford it goowan
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/21/us-ukraine-crisis-lithuania-idUSBREA2K1HP20140321
oh shit OH SHIT
Sounds like Russian Lithuanians could use a bit of Putinistic liberation. THE POWER OF GOD
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/140401/ukraine-agrees-host-nato-war-games
WOOOOOOOOOO
i never thought i'd see anything like this outside of my dreams lubdoods;
[spoiler]
now, like putin has been saying all along (note the dates on the sources below), we wait for him to tear this beautiful relationship apart
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93NATO_relations#Russian_resistance_to_Ukrainian_NATO_membershipPrime Minister Vladimir Putin allegedly declared at a NATO-Russia summit in 2008 that if Ukraine joined NATO his country could contend to annex the Ukrainian East and Crimea.
Quote from: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/12/AR2008021201658.htmlPresident Vladimir Putin said Tuesday that Russia could aim nuclear missiles at Ukraine if its neighbor and former fraternal republic in the Soviet Union joins the NATO alliance [...]
[/spoiler]
[spoiler]http://boyah.net/forums/index.php/topic,62947.msg1392619.html#msg1392619
http://boyah.net/forums/index.php/topic,62737.msg1390586.html#msg1390586[/spoiler]
can't wait for russia to take over the world
i'll have a head start in speaking the language
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2014/03/numbers-vladimir-putin-doesnt-want-you-to-see
Quotelife expectancy now stands at 64 for males and 76 for women [...] the life expectancy for a 15-year-old boy in Haiti is three years higher than for a Russian boy the same age.
QuoteThe syphilis rate among girls 10 to 14"a statistical category that boggles the mind"had gone up 40 times the previous decade, and only 30 percent of boys between the ages of 15 and 17 were considered healthy.
QuoteRussia’s working-age population is also declining by a million people a year, a faster rate than the decline of the overall population
QuoteTwenty-five percent of Russian men still die before the age of 55, many from alcoholism and the violent deaths, plus other diseases it fosters.
QuoteRussia, meanwhile, has more heroin addicts than any other country.
QuoteA thriving needle culture inevitably means H.I.V., and between 2000 and 2012 the number of new cases of H.I.V. increased six fold.
Quote50 percent of Russia’s water is not potable.
tl;dr a few examples of reasons why russia has no choice but to resort to force to keep its neighbors in its sphere of influence, as no sane country wants this miserable lifestyle exported to it en masse (again) and those who are now free (or so they thought) of russian/soviet influence are actively seeking to eradicate it
[spoiler]
it's actually really tragic
ugh if only russia could tone down its megalomania a bit and make legitimate attempts to fix its internal problems instead of using the evil west and western sympathizers as a scapegoat for all its failures awdood;
so much wasted potential
but if russia insists on behaving like a spoiled child, the least we could do is limit russia's wasted potential to russia and russia alone[/spoiler]
http://euromaidanpr.wordpress.com/2014/03/31/interfax-ukraine-kyiv-offers-moscow-a-plan-to-transform-Russia-into-a-confederation/
(http://i.imgur.com/8JWXiSw.jpg)
oh ukraine, you so funny
[spoiler]
this comes as a tongue-in-cheek response to Russia's push for a federalized ukraine (with the hope that that would ((further)) weaken and decentralize it and thus make it easier to eventually absorb):
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/04/02/356845/Russia-wants-to-see-federalization-in-ukraine/[/spoiler]
[spoiler]
i like how ukraine took a few south western and caucasian oblasts for itself and gave finnistan long-desired karelia lol [/spoiler]
Quote from: Tectron on April 01, 2014, 10:31:05 AM
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/140401/ukraine-agrees-host-nato-war-games
WOOOOOOOOOO
i never thought i'd see anything like this outside of my dreams lubdoods;
[spoiler]
now, like putin has been saying all along (note the dates on the sources below), we wait for him to tear this beautiful relationship apart
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93NATO_relations#Russian_resistance_to_Ukrainian_NATO_membershipPrime Minister Vladimir Putin allegedly declared at a NATO-Russia summit in 2008 that if Ukraine joined NATO his country could contend to annex the Ukrainian East and Crimea.
Quote from: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/12/AR2008021201658.htmlPresident Vladimir Putin said Tuesday that Russia could aim nuclear missiles at Ukraine if its neighbor and former fraternal republic in the Soviet Union joins the NATO alliance [...]
[/spoiler]
[spoiler]http://boyah.net/forums/index.php/topic,62947.msg1392619.html#msg1392619
http://boyah.net/forums/index.php/topic,62737.msg1390586.html#msg1390586[/spoiler]
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/01/ukraine-crisis-Russia-nato-idUKL5N0MT2P120140401 (http://tinyurl.com/m96z44t)
aaand there it is
Quote from: Tectron on April 02, 2014, 03:59:12 PM
QuoteThe syphilis rate among girls 10 to 14"a statistical category that boggles the mind"had gone up 40 times the previous decade, and only 30 percent of girls between the ages of 15 and 17 were considered healthy.
this is what feminists want
russia needs some true conservatives
Quote from: ncba93ivyase on April 02, 2014, 08:31:29 PM
Quote from: Tectron on April 02, 2014, 03:59:12 PM
QuoteThe syphilis rate among girls 10 to 14"a statistical category that boggles the mind"had gone up 40 times the previous decade, and only 30 percent of girls between the ages of 15 and 17 were considered healthy.
this is what feminists want
Russia needs some true conservatives
Did you know the feminist movement has struggled to take off in Russia because they consider feminism to be synonymous with lesbianism which is a sin
Quote from: David on March 31, 2014, 03:26:57 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/31/ukraine-darth-vader-president-internet-party
please let him win. this would make this even more amazing
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/451749506078367744
:(
http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/3/5577520/nasa-ban-russian-communication-about-money-not-crimea
genuinely irritated with nasa over this
they don't have to be such goddamn weasels about it
Quote from: Tectron on April 03, 2014, 06:35:31 PM
Quote from: David on March 31, 2014, 03:26:57 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/31/ukraine-darth-vader-president-internet-party
please let him win. this would make this even more amazing
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/451749506078367744
:(
fuck this gay earth
agreed
putin can't press the big red button soon enough
Quote from: Tectron on April 04, 2014, 01:09:59 AM
http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/3/5577520/nasa-ban-russian-communication-about-money-not-crimea
genuinely irritated with nasa over this
they don't have to be such goddamn weasels about it
but it wasn't NASA's decision
Quote from: PLEASEHELP1991 on April 04, 2014, 09:15:29 AM
Quote from: Tectron on April 04, 2014, 01:09:59 AM
http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/3/5577520/nasa-ban-russian-communication-about-money-not-crimea
genuinely irritated with nasa over this
they don't have to be such goddamn weasels about it
but it wasn't NASA's decision
it was according to the sources i've seen befuddlement
Quote from: Tectron on April 04, 2014, 12:13:28 PM
Quote from: PLEASEHELP1991 on April 04, 2014, 09:15:29 AM
Quote from: Tectron on April 04, 2014, 01:09:59 AM
http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/3/5577520/nasa-ban-russian-communication-about-money-not-crimea
genuinely irritated with nasa over this
they don't have to be such goddamn weasels about it
but it wasn't NASA's decision
it was according to the sources i've seen befuddlement
Quote"The decision to suspend contact with Russian entities is a US government decision, not a NASA decision," says Joanne Gabrynowicz, a retired law professor at the University of Mississippi who specializes in space law, in an email to The Verge.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/04/02/NASA-suspends-relations-with-Russia-space-agency/6351396463809/
UPI confirms this.
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-04-04/putin-wouldn-t-dare-take-alaska?cmpid=yhoo
why is anybody even taking this seriously lol
Quote from: Tectron on April 05, 2014, 07:12:39 PM
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-04-04/putin-wouldn-t-dare-take-alaska?cmpid=yhoo
why is anybody even taking this seriously lol
misinformation and fear mongering
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/01/us-ukraine-crisis-nordics-idUSBREA301AD20140401
russia's aggression has brought about a period of greater companionship among the west
Brings a tear to the eye. cry;
where is mdendnendev in all of this
Quote from: Khadafi on April 07, 2014, 08:30:54 AM
where is mdendnendev in all of this
http://www.dw.de/russian-pm-medvedev-visits-crimea-pledges-economic-stimulus-package/a-17532367
[spoiler]
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2014/04/04/Russian-economy-stalling-PM-Medvedev-says/4121396635654/
giggle;[/spoiler]
Quote from: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/07/the-less-americans-know-about-ukraines-location-the-more-they-want-u-s-to-intervene/(http://i.imgur.com/xg74reA.png)
What fucking retards thought Ukraine was in the middle of the US?
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2014/04/07/prorussian_separatists_declare_east_ukrainian_region_independent.html
and the dominoes come tumbling down
destroy the separatist's techno union ships
http://ens-newswire.com/2014/04/07/ukraine-turmoil-leaves-zoo-animals-starving/
:(
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/01/americans-nato-poll_n_5069838.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592
lol poor latvia has even less support than ukraine, and they are nato members goowan
I pray to Doodthing we won't hesitate to attack if and when Putin encroaches upon NATO territory. smithicide;
also, as if there wasn't enough evidence already to approximate russia's ambitions
http://news.yahoo.com/russian-mps-want-gorbachev-probed-treason-over-ussr-144643924.html
i feel sick
http://mashable.com/2014/04/11/crimea-google/
lol
also eastern ukraine is going down soon
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/world/404552/rising-anti-russia-sentiment-threatens-europe-stability-moscow
...Gee, I wonder what might be causing that? befuddlement
Quote from: Tectron on April 12, 2014, 03:20:19 PM
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/world/404552/rising-anti-russia-sentiment-threatens-europe-stability-moscow
...Gee, I wonder what might be causing that? befuddlement
lol
it's a shame it for needless aggression to actually cause people to question russia
this plays nicely into their 'all russians are victims' approach which they'll only be playing up more as a pretext to destabilize their neighbors further and eventually reanimate the soviet union
oh joy
they could at least try to make their plans a little less transparent
Quote from: Tectron on April 12, 2014, 04:21:29 PM
they could at least try to make their plans a little less transparent
putin could write every head of state in the west his exact plans and they'd still be powerless to stop him lol
Quote from: David on April 12, 2014, 09:40:37 PM
Quote from: Tectron on April 12, 2014, 04:21:29 PM
they could at least try to make their plans a little less transparent
putin could write every head of state in the west his exact plans and they'd still be powerless to stop him lol
Ugh, I wish this weren't true. awdood;
WWIII will start Tuesday
The Blood Moon told me so
This is rough shit.
http://www.businessinsider.com/putin-finally-admits-troops-crimea-2014-4 (http://www.businessinsider.com/putin-admits-troops-crimea-2014-4)
i lol'd
and now the same thing's about to happen in donetsk
Quote from: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/18/world/europe/russia-ukraine.html
[Putin] stressed Russia’s historical claim to the territory in language he had not often used before.
Signaling a new and more aggressive policy in the Ukraine crisis, Mr. Putin repeatedly referred to eastern Ukraine as “new Russia”
jesus christ
[spoiler]
QuoteHe said only “God knows” why it became part of Ukraine in 1920.
i lol'd, again[/spoiler]
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/04/17/jews-ordered-to-register-in-east-ukraine/7816951/
This kind of scares me.
Sounds like a Mossad covert operation - Alex Jones
Quote from: Classic HD on April 17, 2014, 10:42:08 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/04/17/jews-ordered-to-register-in-east-ukraine/7816951/
This kind of scares me.
when something like this comes up, i wonder what will be said by the people who usually toot the "kiev is led by neo-nazi fascists" horn
destroy russia
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27072351
russia leaves for a moment and ukrainian thugs (not the government) goes full nazi. putin come back to ukraine
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2014/04/17/world/europe/17reuters-russia-putin-nato.html?ref=world&_r=0
like it's america's fault that russian empire 2.0's whipping boys willingly rushed to join nato and the eu the moment the soviet union imploded to ensure that they would never again have their heads under the boot heels of whichever maniac happens to be occupying the kremlin smth;
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/140417/ex-russian-alaska-too-cold-annex-putin-jokes
lol
get a load of this guy
so basically he's going to wait to annex it until he's warmed it up with some nuclear firepower
Quote from: Classic HD on April 17, 2014, 10:42:08 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/04/17/jews-ordered-to-register-in-east-ukraine/7816951/
This kind of scares me.
as much as i would absolutely love a good excuse to put russia and its sympathizers in their place
http://www.dailydot.com/politics/ukraine-jewish-registry-fake/
well, we still have no idea who they're from if they're not truly from the so-called "people's republic of donetsk"
i read an article earlier though saying that a reporter actually went to the building that the "fees" were supposed to be paid at, and said room was empty, so i guess it's certainly true that at the very least, they're not truly making jews register
i have to wonder if the flyers were truly simply meant to make the makeshift donetsk leadership look bad, and nothing else, though.
Quote from: Tectron on April 17, 2014, 07:48:06 AM
and now the same thing's about to happen in donetsk
Quote from: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/18/world/europe/russia-ukraine.html
[Putin] stressed Russia’s historical claim to the territory in language he had not often used before.
Signaling a new and more aggressive policy in the Ukraine crisis, Mr. Putin repeatedly referred to eastern Ukraine as “new Russia”
jesus christ
[spoiler]QuoteHe said only “God knows” why it became part of Ukraine in 1920.
i lol'd, again[/spoiler]
why don't they just claim the uk already
there are some russians there
Quote from: Nonon Jakuzure on April 17, 2014, 05:30:32 PM
i have to wonder if the flyers were truly simply meant to make the makeshift donetsk leadership look bad, and nothing else, though.
probably
and who other than ukraine would want to make them look bad (though i doubt the ukrainian government itself is behind this)
They have no need whatsoever to resort to such shady tactics. It looks bad enough on its own, especially with Putin's confirmation that Russia is indeed meddling and will continue to do so. This sort of poorly executed false flag attempt accomplishes nothing except to undermine the legitimacy of Ukraine's actual concerns. awdood;
that being said, there genuinely are some extreme anti-semites currently heading the donetsk independence movement
...buuut they exist in small numbers within ukraine's current leadership too lol
and russia's
and pretty much every country in (eastern) europe
bleh
Quote from: ncba93ivyase on April 17, 2014, 05:40:40 PM
Quote from: Tectron on April 17, 2014, 07:48:06 AM
and now the same thing's about to happen in donetsk
Quote from: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/18/world/europe/russia-ukraine.html
[Putin] stressed Russia’s historical claim to the territory in language he had not often used before.
Signaling a new and more aggressive policy in the Ukraine crisis, Mr. Putin repeatedly referred to eastern Ukraine as “new Russia”
jesus christ
[spoiler]QuoteHe said only “God knows” why it became part of Ukraine in 1920.
i lol'd, again[/spoiler]
why don't they just claim the uk already
there are some russians there
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-26716281
http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/04/ukraine-soldiers-russian/360969/
http://time.com/69161/ukraine-yatsenyuk-putin-wants-to-rebuild-soviet-union/ (http://time.com/69161/ukraine-yatsenyuk-putin-soviet-union/)
giggle;
http://abcnews.go.com/International/russia-outraged-deadly-ukraine-shootout/story?id=23399299
lol, 'outraged'
here is confirmation of why ukraine has no choice but to tiptoe around russia's aggression, otherwise putin will feign """outrage""" over the disposable russian soldiers whose existence he wasn't even aware of before the incident, hype up the propaganda machine and use it as a convenient pretext for a full-scale invasion and takeover
fmlol
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-04-20/news/49266213_1_alexei-ulyukaev-russian-economy-finance-minister-anton-siluanov
puts a smile on my face happydood;
[spoiler]
it's too bad that putin will use this as an example of how """the west""" punishes russian success and use it as justification for further dickheaded moves[/spoiler]
[spoiler=here's a piece of russian propaganda making the case for the full annexation of 'novorossiya'](http://i.imgur.com/bzsS7Ov.jpg)[/spoiler]
[spoiler=here's a larger picture of the graphic under point 2 on the first page that putin's useful idiots love to whip out at any given opportunity](http://i.imgur.com/ZJYayI3.jpg)[/spoiler]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/04/18/understanding-novorossiya-the-latest-historical-concept-to-get-worried-about-in-ukraine/
http://ukrainianpolicy.com/southeast-statistics-of-ukraine-april-2014/
tl;dr even in the most hotly contended regions of ukraine, only 25% at the absolute most support the actions of the we-swear-we're-not-russian militia
in southeast ukraine, which is vast majority russian-speaking and has a significant minority of ethnic russians and historically is more favorable of russia than is the rest of ukraine:
89% reject the notion of ukraine and russia merging into a single state
89% reject federalization as a solution to the (nonexistent and entirely fabricated by the kremlin) problem
30% of those polled in the most russia-supportive region of donetsk (behind crimea) favor a crimea-like annexation
so while southeast ukrainians do genuinely question the legitimacy of the new government (50%), the overwhelming majority agrees that russia has absolutely no right to intervene
too bad rasputin isn't the type to give a damn about popular opinion
Quote from: Tectron on April 21, 2014, 05:35:05 PM
too bad rasputin isn't the type to give a damn about popular opinion
really though what politician does care what their citizens think of them
how often do you see articles saying "people ask for x, politician gives them exactly what they want."
or even "people ask for x, politician considers giving them what they want"
the fact that most politicians themselves are shit doesn't really excuse putin's behavior lol
for one, the vast majority of bad political behavior is relatively inconsequential compared to something as dangerous and with such massive worldwide implications (to say the least goowan) as the unauthorized redrawing of european borders
and secondly, most shitty political decisions are restricted to the area in which the official has jurisdiction
nobody would care nearly as much if putin's bad behavior were limited to russia alone because it wouldn't affect anyone but russians (who are extremely tolerant of putin's behavior regardless), but now putin is exporting russia's shit to its neighbors en masse and putting enormous stress on geopolitical stability worldwide
it's his assertion that he is ultimately the decision maker in a sovereign state that wants nothing to do with him that is disturbing, especially considering the absolutely insane reasoning behind it
putin's yet to face any consequences for his actions. some countries give him empty threats, but he knows they won't do shit. the world as a whole isn't really paying attention to what he's doing.
and it's not like ukraine is even fighting back. hell having 30% of a population wanting to join russia is better than the state of "democracy" in this country, with congress's approval rate sitting around 9%
putin's yet to face any consequences because he has nukes, but that is not at all any indication that the world is comfortable with his behavior
when hot-headed but militarily feeble iraq tried the same thing in kuwait in 1990, the entire world, communist and capitalist, unanimously carpet bombed it into renouncing its ambitions, even though the average person probably isn't particularly invested in the geopolitical affairs of mideastern states they don't really care about
when the argentarded government had previously attempted the same idiocy in the falklands in 1982, the world again found itself universally condemning the actions of the illegitimate invader, again even though nobody outside of the uk or argentina gives a hoot about the falklands
were it not for russia's military might, the absolutely only recourse it has keeping it any more proportionally relevant in the modern era than those sorry middle eastern petrostates, this would be over with by now (heck it probably wouldn't have even started)
it's not like ukraine is even fighting back, but that's because ukraine is realistic enough to acknowledge that any direct retaliation against russia's aggression would result in it being utterly annihilated in one fell swoop with the flick of putin's pen
Quote from: Tectron on April 21, 2014, 02:30:01 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/russia-outraged-deadly-ukraine-shootout/story?id=23399299
lol, 'outraged'
here is confirmation of why ukraine has no choice but to tiptoe around russia's aggression, otherwise putin will feign """outrage""" over the disposable russian soldiers whose existence he wasn't even aware of before the incident, hype up the propaganda machine and use it as a convenient pretext for a full-scale invasion and takeover
fmlol
also, i'm still not sure why you continue to insist upon dragging the us into these conversations lol
Idk I just find it hard to be overly upset by Putin when his global approval rate seems to exceed most politicians lol
I mean, goddamn, Ukraine is going to vanish and it's happening with little resistance anywhere
Quote from: ncba93ivyase on April 22, 2014, 12:38:06 PM
Idk I just find it hard to be overly upset by Putin when his global approval rate seems to exceed most politicians lol
just so you know, this has never, ever been true
http://www.gallup.com/poll/168467/tops-global-leaders-approval.aspx
putin's internal approval ratings may be the envy of politicians worldwide (one of the perks of controlling your media and competition i suppose), but russia's global approval at its best is worse than anyone else's worst, and it's been that way since well before this shitshow
I am sorry tec orz
Also I was not even sober when I made my original post I Apologize
Quote from: http://www.rferl.org/content/putin-signs-laws-for-citizenship-migrant-laborers/25356458.htmlussian President Vladimir Putin has signed laws simplifying procedures for Russian speakers in the former Soviet Union to obtain Russian citizenship and on obligations for migrant laborers working in Russia.
lel
and i especially love the language used here
Quote[...] the law on citizenship makes it possible for any Russian-speaking person "who has consistently been living, or has relatives who have consistently been living or earlier were living on the territory of the Russian Federation, including the territory of the Russian Empire or USSR," to obtain Russian citizenship.
not even pretending that the ussr wasn't just a continuation of the russian empire anymore lol
Quote from: ncba93ivyase on April 22, 2014, 10:28:29 PM
I am sorry tec orz
Also I was not even sober when I made my original post I Apologize
you've made posts like that while perfectly unintoxicated before akudood;
but i am glad you are starting to See the Light
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/04/moscow-warns-kiev-pull-back-troops-2014423154218313631.html
there's that assertion that russia owns ukraine again nyandood;
how dare you make any pitiful attempt to defend yourselves from losing another hunk of your own territory
and perhaps the best news of the day
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/24/us-georgia-eu-idUSBREA3N1JE20140424
yes, YES lubdoods;
we must Quarantine the Eurasian Disease
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/SuD8pbi.jpg)[/spoiler]
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20140425-702019.html happydood;
Quote from: Tectron on April 25, 2014, 12:34:33 AM
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20140425-702019.html happydood;
being happy because the west is to scared to fight russia mano a mano is not something to be happy about
that's not what i'm happy about
but i am happy that russia's economy is now stagnating even more than it usually does as a result of its immeasurable greed and envy
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27153909
Quote from: russian foreign minister lavrov"The West... wants to seize Ukraine so to speak, being solely motivated by its own geopolitical ambitions and not the interests of the Ukrainian people," Mr Lavrov said, according to AFP.
i lol'd
http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/eurasian-union-no-more-10321
God Bless Ukraine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/27/us-ukraine-crisis-moldova-eu-idUSBREA3Q0AS20140427
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/24/georgia-eu-idUSL6N0NG45J20140424
russia wants desperately to keep its imperial territories out of the western sphere of influence, but all its actions have managed to accomplish is their accelerated integration with one another lol
[spoiler]
my only fear is that shotgunning europe's poorest and lest stable nations into the integration process might not be good for the overall long-term stability of the eu, but i'm sure it's a calculated risk that they've found themselves comfortable with if it means undermining and protecting eastern europe (((and the world))) from revitalized russian expansion[/spoiler]
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/YCDWUKN.gif)[/spoiler]
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/22/world/europe/under-russia-life-in-crimea-grows-chaotic.html?_r=0&assetType=nyt_now&gwh=B2AC1ADAADBE213924EA9C8AE40B3383&gwt=pay&assetType=nyt_now
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27155885
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/4v4VjdB.gif)[/spoiler]
til united russia is not officially a nationalist party
Quote from: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/trampoline-space-russian-official-tells-nasa-take-flying-leap-n92616After analyzing the sanctions against our space industry, I suggest to the USA to bring their astronauts to the International Space Station using a trampoline
0wned
Now we can best buds with China. AWESOME
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27221345
yes YES YES
and may it never recover so long as russia continues to behave like a spoiled child
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/lsS4tlx.gif)[/spoiler]
also, jesus fuck;ing christie if this is accurate
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-toppled-mafia-president-cost-ukraine-up-to-100-billion-prosecutor-says-2014-30#ixzz30NeLsCjQ
could you imagine corruption so extensive and widespread as to leech $9 trillion out of the us economy
proportionally, that's what $100 billion is to ukraine
my god
the $32 billion taken by yanukovych in the final days of his presidency alone are equivalent to nearly 20% of ukraine's annual economy
that's comparable to a single american in possession of $3 trillion
he is cool.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/02/world/europe/ukraine-expels-russian-naval-attache.html?_r=0
i love this headline
Quote from: Tectron on May 02, 2014, 01:22:11 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/02/world/europe/ukraine-expels-russian-naval-attache.html?_r=0
i love this headline
'please remove your troops so we can easily install ours'
lol he's not even trying to hide it any more
Quote from: David on May 02, 2014, 01:38:24 PM
Quote from: Tectron on May 02, 2014, 01:22:11 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/02/world/europe/ukraine-expels-russian-naval-attache.html?_r=0
i love this headline
'please remove your troops so we can easily install ours'
lol he's not even trying to hide it any more
here's another one
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/russia-to-ukraine-your-military-actions-are-criminal/2014/05/02/bd009b57-0ff4-403d-83a3-67f3f9db8908_story.html
these give me genuine chuckles
putin's become quite the comedian lately
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/730312
goodbye ukraine
i'll never forget you :'(
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/05/vladimir_putin_s_strategy_in_ukraine_the_kremlin_leader_condemns_and_copies.single.html
an analysis of putin's behavior
my putin analysis: he owns and is cool. and ukraine wil be better off with someone like putin then with someone like cameron
my analysis: russia a sh*t
http://www.businessinsider.com/putin-paying-people-to-post-pro-russia-propaganda-in-comments-2014-5#!IDrzz
where do i sign up for a job like this
by the way
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/27/us-serbia-government-idUSBREA3Q0J820140427
http://www.novinite.com/articles/160285/Fuele,+Ashton+Praise+Serbia%E2%80%99s+EU+Membership+Progress
http://dalje.com/en-world/eu-enlargement-commissioner-begins-visit-to-serbia/507901
http://inserbia.info/today/2014/05/moore-serbia-will-have-to-support-eus-stance-on-russia/
fifteen years from now, long after ukraine has become but a distant memory of what could have been, i wonder if russia will throw another shitfit the instant serbia makes any serious eu ascension efforts
maybe elder putin will take a kosovo for himself
A little bit of Russia-sponsored insurgency in Vojvodina should be enough to trigger yet another round of highly lethal Balkanization. Reichdood;
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/moldova-keen-to-join-the-european-union-in-2019-515892
http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=212562
aww, isn't moldova adorable
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/opinion/kristof-moldova-the-next-ukraine.html?_r=0
Quote from: Tectron on March 17, 2014, 04:52:10 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/putin-recognizes-crimean-independence-22946911
lol
now we sit and watch as every city in crimea is invariably named to putingrad or st. putinsberg
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/simferopol-should-be-renamed-putin-city-1444105
sillydood;
http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/05/05/putins-human-rights-council-accidentally-posts-real-crimean-election-results-only-15-voted-for-annexation/
http://landandseajournal.com/russian-governments-own-civil-society-organization-finds-crimean-referendum-falsified/
QuoteOfficial Kremlin results: 97% for annexation, turnout 83 percent, and percent of Crimeans voting in favor 82%.
President’s Human Rights Council results: 50% for annexation, turnout 30%, percent of Crimeans voting in favor 15%.
lol
Quote from: Tectron on May 05, 2014, 06:48:19 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/05/05/putins-human-rights-council-accidentally-posts-real-crimean-election-results-only-15-voted-for-annexation/
http://landandseajournal.com/russian-governments-own-civil-society-organization-finds-crimean-referendum-falsified/
QuoteOfficial Kremlin results: 97% for annexation, turnout 83 percent, and percent of Crimeans voting in favor 82%.
President’s Human Rights Council results: 50% for annexation, turnout 30%, percent of Crimeans voting in favor 15%.
lol
i was hoping to post this article before you did lol
but technically that could still be a majority of voters assuming these results are even accurate.
most votes anywhere are lucky to pass with 50% in favor. i doubt many politicians in places that offer more than 2 parties get elected by anything approaching or exceeding that
democracy doesn't work and that's why putin is saving ukraine from such a flawed political system
it could well be, as even at best you're lucky to get more than 50-60% of the voting-eligible population to actually vote in most legitimate democracies (unless you're australia)
but even then, 30% is low, and then we have to consider that crimean voters partook in the referendum with guns being waved at them
also a major territorial shift should require something far more than just a simply majority
and regardless, it severely contradicts the ridiculous figures disclosed by the kremlin that were designed to paint a picture of a crimea unanimously disgusted with ukraine, and that lack of confidence indicates that moscow is well aware this wouldn't slide if it didn't cheat and distort and corrupt every single piece of evidence it got its hands on
but i suppose that's what russia does best
[spoiler]
also, democracy generally only fails in states that democratized either under unnatural circumstances or too early for their own good
and even then
(http://i.imgur.com/J7C6b7Q.png) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy#20th_and_21st_centuries)
compare the average hdi of those countries on the green spectrum to the average of those on the red spectrum
personally, there are far more greens than reds that i would be willing to live in, even if there are a few outliers between them[/spoiler]
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-05/ruble-plunge-hitting-russians-speeds-slide-to-recession.html?cmpid=yhoo
QuoteThe ruble has weakened 8 percent this year, the second-worst performance after the Argentine peso among 24 emerging-market currencies tracked by Bloomberg.
Now what do these two have in common? ifeelbetter;
they are both oppressed by western 1st world powers?
Quote from: cybermancer on May 06, 2014, 11:09:42 AM
they are both oppressed by western 1st world powers?
accusing the islamic republic of britain of being 1st world is a good 1 m8
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/100000-yes-ballots-for-referendum-intercepted-2-347222.html
lol
looks like we'll have a new belarus on the block after the eastern oblasts all vote 'yes' 99-1 tomorrow
http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2014/05/13/311907827/europe-could-tighten-screws-on-russia-but-it-doesnt-why
guess who's arming russia to help them defeat us
hint: it's us
it's just frants
it was a deal years in the making that just happened to end up coinciding with russia's renewed revanchism, and even within france there's significant discontent about the sale lol
it's not like russia started being itself again and then all of nato decided 'yeah now would be a great time to make a buck arming them with warships'
[spoiler=still, i suppose the end result is the same]
Quote from: len*nThe Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.
[/spoiler]
john len*n was such a wise man, rip
France isn't just France though. They're a significant power within the EU lol
They know exactly who these ships will be used against so still handing them over is just dumb
it's not like the rest of the eu agrees to it though lol, everyone think's it's dumb
the other eu powers are extremely uncomfortable with the situation france is in
even france is extremely uncomfortable with the situation it's stuck in (though i guess not quite enough to turn away the big bux)
but the rest of the eu is powerless to stop a transaction between any of its individual members and a third party lol (((one good day the eu will federalize and this will never be a problem again :'()))
this sale (and also germoney's reluctance to impose any serious economic sanctions on russia) does however clearly demonstrate a significant lack of common goals within the eu/nato, which russia is surely taking notice of and will most def. use to its advantage in the future
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/russian-deputy-prime-minister-warns-moldova-against-signing-eu-deal-1.1792631
lol
say goodbye to transnistria, east romania
http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL6N0NZ4EA20140513
welp
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine-abroad/the-moscow-times-son-of-us-vice-president-biden-joins-ukraine-gas-company-347654.html
aaand here we have what certainly appears to be a conflict of interests
http://www.zdnet.com/russias-free-speech-crackdown-aims-to-stifle-bloggers-censor-putins-political-rivals-7000028935/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/24/russia-bloggers-law_n_5205812.html
noice, a giant russian echo chamber even more out of touch with the rest of the world
i wonder what edward fauxden has to say about this
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/13/world/europe/russia-vows-harsh-response-to-airspace-snub-and-to-a-raid-of-a-delegates-jet.html?_r=0
how come russia simply doesn't seem to understand that making your neighbors hate you isn't going to make them want to join you lol
all that ever achieves is creating a deeper divide
every single country who has ever been in russia's """sphere of influence""" either cringes at the memory or is actively seeking to escape it for the greener pastures next door (except everyone's favorite lapdog belarus, lol)
QuoteRussia has created a series of breakaway regions like Transnistria in former Soviet republics that get too close to Europe, making them unpalatable allies. There has been some speculation that their ultimate objective in eastern Ukraine is the same " creating a terminally unstable region that will make the European Union and NATO leery.
No way...
Quote from: Tectron on May 14, 2014, 06:29:24 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/13/world/europe/russia-vows-harsh-response-to-airspace-snub-and-to-a-raid-of-a-delegates-jet.html?_r=0
how come russia simply doesn't seem to understand that making your neighbors hate you isn't going to make them want to join you lol
all that ever achieves is creating a deeper divide
every single country who has ever been in russia's """sphere of influence""" either cringes at the memory or is actively seeking to escape it for the greener pastures next door (except everyone's favorite lapdog belarus, lol)
QuoteRussia has created a series of breakaway regions like Transnistria in former Soviet republics that get too close to Europe, making them unpalatable allies. There has been some speculation that their ultimate objective in eastern Ukraine is the same " creating a terminally unstable region that will make the European Union and NATO leery.
No way...
poland got too chummy with nato and the eu
poland screws up everything for everybody
i bet it's the betrayal by soviet brothers latvia/lithuania/estonia that really set them off
they're the reason russia directly borders the degenerate west
europe stole russia's cushions from under its rump and now putin's taking them back
http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/ukraine-russia.w06/
yes
yes
yes
yes
http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/ukraine-russia.vzw/
yes
yes
yes
yes
now in addition to ukraine we have moldova and georgia (coincidentally, all three of the nations russia has infected with separatist tumors)
[spoiler]
amazing how putin has escalated things to such a level that we're willing to fight over moldova[/spoiler]
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/21/world/asia/china-russia-fail-to-reach-deal-on-gas-plan
(http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/21/world/asia/china-russia.html?src=twr&smid=tw-nytimesworld)
Quote“China already has enough gas from Central Asia, and now Myanmar, until the mid-2020s [...] Unless Russia made a compromise on price, China has no reason to sign it.”
QuoteIf the gas deal went ahead in the coming period, Mr. Shi said, it would be “a Chinese financial assistance contract for Russia in guise of commercial payment.”
yes
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
even china can see clearly through russia's actions
which means for now they will continue to remain susceptible to western economic behavior
looks like you're still stuck with us, putin, unless you want to accept an unsustainable pennies to the gallon happydood;
[spoiler]
let's hope that doesn't change in the foreseeable future[/spoiler]
is Drudkh OK?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/21/china-russia-gas-deal-gazprom_n_5364004.html
so it eventually happened, but it wasn't quite as favorable to russia as putin would have liked
gazprom was hoping for $400/unit and ended up only getting around $350, which is only slightly above breaking even
this is less than what europe pays on average despite the cost of transportation to china being higher, and they were hoping for china to pay more than europe to make up for that (which was never going to happen and which is why these "negotiations" had been in limbo for well over a decade)
$400 billion over the course of 30 years (13.33 billion/yr) isn't anything to scoff at, but considering that russia is a developed country with a population 150 million strong it turns out to be pretty insignificant
it'll increase russia's gdp by less than seven thousandths per year lol (a figure which will only decrease with time)
and on top of that, russia will be paying the bulk of the cost for the development of pipelines and infrastructure to the tune of $55 billion, further eating into its profits
china on the other hand will be putting a mere $22 billion (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/05/22/world/china-hands-russia-get-jail-free-card-400-billion-gas-deal/#.U4A57txdWSo) into infrastructure on its side lol
to make matters even worse, china only opted to purchase about 1/5 of what europe does (again, though huge, less than what putin was hoping for), so while russia's market has diversified it's not nearly to the point at which it can just brush """sanctions""" (if we ever actually start imposing those) or a significantly reduced reliance on russian energy off
really puts this image in perspective
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/049bg5Y.jpg)[/spoiler]
so much for china's warming relations with russia.
lol
china could not possibly have picked a better time to finally accept this deal, as absolutely all the conditions were in its favor
but at least putin gets to boast about how he stuck it to the west and created a new economic reality for russia to people who couldn't possibly care enough to actually be aware of the terms of the deal both at home and abroad
also, fun fact:
the leader of the so-called """donetsk people's republic""", whose existence is based upon the assertion that ukraine is a fascist neonazi state, is himself a literal neonazi lmao
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_GubarevGubarev was a member of the neo-Nazi Russian National Unity paramilitary group.
[spoiler=i mean they're not even subtle about it]
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_National_Unity(http://i.imgur.com/4C1RSkG.png) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_National_Unity)
[/spoiler]
Occupation Employee of an advertising agency[2]
Santa Claus for-hire
Quote from: Tectron on May 24, 2014, 05:03:38 PM
also, fun fact:
the leader of the so-called """donetsk people's republic""", whose existence is based upon the assertion that ukraine is a fascist neonazi state, is himself a literal neonazi lmao
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_GubarevGubarev was a member of the neo-Nazi Russian National Unity paramilitary group.
[spoiler=i mean they're not even subtle about it]Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_National_Unity(http://i.imgur.com/4C1RSkG.png) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_National_Unity)
[/spoiler]
lol this is why even Russia won't recognise that referendum the other week
presidential elections today vuvudood;
assuming no rigging, the winner is very likely to be pro-europe business magnate petro poroshenko (54% favorability), the amazing chocolatier
[spoiler]
i am honestly tempted to import some mediocre ukrainian chocolate from his confectionary company should he actually turn out to do a decent job as president y/n[/spoiler]
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/25/petro-poroshenko-ukraine-president-wins-election
now let's see how quickly he reneges on his promises like every other ukrainian president before him nyandood;
also, here are the results for the far-right parties
QuoteVadim Rabinovich (Ukrainian Jewish Congress) - 1.9%
Oleh Tyahnybok (VO Svoboda) - 1.3%
Dmytro Yarosh (Right Sector) - 0.9%
yep, ukraine is neonazi all right
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/putin-says-russia-ready-for-talks-with-japan-over-disputed-islands/500807.html
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_GeopoliticsRussia should manipulate Japanese politics by offering the Kuril Islands to Japan and provoking anti-Americanism.
Quote from: Tectron on May 25, 2014, 02:46:08 PM
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/putin-says-russia-ready-for-talks-with-japan-over-disputed-islands/500807.html
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_GeopoliticsRussia should manipulate Japanese politics by offering the Kuril Islands to Japan and provoking anti-Americanism.
time to clean up the military bases on okinawa to appease tojo [spoiler]i know full well people who live on the main islands don't give a single damn about what happens on okinawa lol[/spoiler]
yes because i'm sure complicating relations between us and japan by buddying up with japan will help clear up everything with the triangle of US-Russia-China relations.
if anything it'd push the US and China closer.
good wager there putin
http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_05_27/Ukraine-Poland-Lithuania-plan-to-establish-joint-military-unit-8461/
http://www.novostimira.com.ua/news-eng-109429.html
yes, yes
the polish-lithuanian commonwealth is being resurrected as we speak
http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-pushes-ahead-with-its-eu-alternative-2014-5
god save ukraine and ukraine save us all
and with the eurasian union comes putin's realization of a eurasiavision song contest
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/russia-launches-alternative-to-eurovision-after-drag-queen-wins-20140527
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intervision_Song_Contest
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russia-kazakhstan-belarus-form-eurasian-economic-union/2014/05/29/de4a2c15-cb01-4c25-9bd6-7d5ac9e466fd_story.html
and there it is, friends
the soviet union has officially been resurrected
Why is Belarus separate from Russia again?
No pride
solely for putin's ability to say 'see! belarus agrees' when it comes to international issues so that russia doesn't seem completely alone
how much sadder would it be if belarus were part of russia and so the eurasian union consisted of just russia and kazland lol
[spoiler=a hilarious map of belarus](http://i.imgur.com/qHYTEbz.jpg)[/spoiler]
Quote from: Tectron on May 29, 2014, 05:56:53 PM
solely for putin's ability to say 'see! belarus agrees' when it comes to international issues so that russia doesn't seem completely alone
how much sadder would it be if belarus were part of russia and so the eurasian union consisted of just russia and kazland lol
It is already pretty sad with the three of them
I don't know why Kazakhstan likes them seeing that Russia despises Muslims
it is
although, armenia and some of the other irrelevant stans are likely to join at some point too, not that they'll add much
so russia will be the germany of eurasian union[euu]?
http://norwaytoday.info/home_view.php?id=11410
oh goodness goowan
http://www.defensenews.com/article/20140605/DEFREG01/306050039/Finland-Put-NATO-Membership-Referendum
[spoiler]
it should be noted that actual popular support for joining nato in finland is quite low, precisely because they're worried about russia's reaction[/spoiler]
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27862849
ukraine has now been energy independent for:
http://www.arewethere.yt/---/9726.htm#.U57MYtxdWSp
[spoiler]
i can't wait to see how they'll handle this[/spoiler]
http://www.finnbay.com/media/news/russian-foreign-minister-lavro-finland-wouldnt-dare-nato-membership/
and one day later,
http://www.novinite.com/articles/161334/New+Finnish+Prime+Minister+to+Seek+NATO+Membership
Quote from: Tectron on June 16, 2014, 03:51:44 PM
http://www.finnbay.com/media/news/russian-foreign-minister-lavro-finland-wouldnt-dare-nato-membership/
and one day later,
http://www.novinite.com/articles/161334/New+Finnish+Prime+Minister+to+Seek+NATO+Membership
lol russia is getting owned
unfortunately for the new pm, actual finnish citizens and mps are unlikely to vote in nato's favor because they fear russia's response
russia might get to maintain the status quo after all lol
i want to blow up russia.. for fucking with an actual cool coutnry.
white-on-white hate crime
white culture
Quote from: PLEASEHELP1991 on June 17, 2014, 08:48:01 AM
white-on-white hate crime
slavs are only "white" thanks to social justice
finnish are mongliods
http://agenda.ge/news/16703/eng
lol
ukraine et al will be finally signing this long-sought agreement, whose abandonment first caused ukraine to spiral into its current ruckus, today
is this still going on
what about isis
and nork
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28052645
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/NXRlAQX.png)[/spoiler]
lol
russia is so powerful
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/29/ukrainians-crowdfund-to-raise-cash-for-drone-to-help-outgunned-army (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/29/outgunned-ukrainian-army-crowdfunding-people-drone)
i lol'd
i should crowdfund an army
why dont you just start you own army.
http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/07/ukrainian-astronomers-named-a-star-putin-is-a/373950/
Quote from: Tectron on July 04, 2014, 02:59:15 AM
http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/07/ukrainian-astronomers-named-a-star-putin-is-a/373950/
You catch more allies with petulance than honey after all
can putin just invade the rest of the ukraine so we can stop worrying about this and get back to the real issues in the levant
http://www.bbc.com/news/rebels-abandon-sloviansk-stronghold (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28174104)
http://online.wsj.com/articles/pro-russia-rebels-prepare-last-stand-in-east (http://online.wsj.com/articles/ukrainian-government-troops-target-further-gains-in-east-1404644564?)
[spoiler=map of diminishing separatist territory](http://i.imgur.com/eIvU66t.png)[/spoiler]
douchebag dugin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics) is at it again
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2014/0707/With-Ukraine-rebels-on-the-ropes-some-Russians-ask-Where-is-Putin
Quote from: Tectron on July 07, 2014, 01:33:39 PM
douchebag dugin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics) is at it again
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2014/0707/With-Ukraine-rebels-on-the-ropes-some-Russians-ask-Where-is-Putin
looks like he took that trip to crimea a bit prematurely
Quote from: David on July 07, 2014, 01:42:02 PM
looks like he took that trip to crimea a bit prematurely
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/06/crimea-euphoria-fades-for-some-russians (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/06/us-ukraine-crisis-russia-economy-idUSKBN0FB0CU20140706)
[spoiler=i giggled]
(http://i.imgur.com/mP8yWjO.jpg)[/spoiler]
i need that shirt
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-07-08/news/kremlin-silent-as-pro-russian-rebels-retreat (http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-07-08/news/51191643_1_pro-russian-separatists-russian-speakers-russian-intervention)
http://www.wral.com/rebel-governor-losing-hope-of-russia-intervention/13798510/
the calm before the shitstorm
http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/05/08/many-russians-say-ukraine-crisis-has-imroved-russias-reputation-abroad/ (http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/05/08/despite-concerns-about-governance-ukrainians-want-to-remain-one-country/pg-2014-05-08-ukraine-russia-3-03/)
meanwhile, in reality
http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/09/russias-global-image-negative-amid-crisis-in-ukraine/
lol
this is the definition of delusion
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/moscow-considering-targeted-strikes-on-ukraine-report/articleshow/38369171.cms
lol
welp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93NATO_relations#Popular_opinion_in_Ukraine
Quote from: Support in Ukraine for NATO membership since 2002
July 2012 17.0% for 70.0% against
June 2014 47.3% for 36.2% against
wowzers
and these people grew up under the impression that nato would be the death of them
not to imply that it won't actually turn out to be
http://rt.com/news/173628-malaysian-plane-shot-down-by-ukranian-fascists/
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/805200-igor-girkin-commander-of-donetsk-peoples-army-igor-strelkov-says-they-shot-down-malaysia-airlines-mh17-photos/
poor malaysia can't catch a break
*Malaysia airlines stock drops*
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russia-s-retaliation-over-eu-deal-awaits-moldova/503597.html
loldova
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/503614.html
Quote from: Tectron on July 17, 2014, 06:36:34 PM
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/503614.html
putin abolishes term limits completely when
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/17/mh17-black-box-sent-to-moscow-for-investigation.html
well isn't that convenient
and it's particularly baffling because of the statement regarding the crash that putin issued earlier today
Quote from: http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/putins-statement-ukraine-plane-crash-24610012Dear colleagues!
You know that a terrible event occurred today in the sky over Ukraine, an awful tragedy -- a civilian plane was killed, 285 people, according to preliminary information, were killed.
On behalf of the Russian leadership and the Russian government, we express condolences to the bereaved families, the governments of those countries whose nationals were on that plane. I ask you to honor their memory.
(A moment of silence)
In this regard, I want to note that this tragedy would not have happened if there were peace on this land, if the military actions had not been renewed in southeast Ukraine. And, certainly, the state over whose territory this occurred bears responsibility for this awful tragedy.
I have already given instructions to the military departments to provide all necessary assistance in the investigation of this crime. And I also ask the government of the Russian Federation through the available civilian agencies that have the capability to do everything for a thorough investigation of this event. We will do everything -- everything that depends on us, anyway -- in order that the objective picture of what happened is part of the public domain here, in Ukraine and in the rest of the world. This is an absolutely unacceptable thing, and no one has the right to let this pass without the appropriate conclusions and without all of us having objective information about the incident.
But we have gathered with you for another reason. I would like to talk to you about the socio-economic situation in the country. We also have many other issues of the current character. Let's talk about them.
and yet, russia lunges forward to be the first to get its hands on the black box despite it putting the responsibility squarely on ukraine
lol
>mfw people think Putin is literally directly responsible for this.
creating the situation yeah but cnnshit has stupid stuff about obama stopping short of blaming putin.
prolly because putin did not sit in the kremlin 'yes. shoot down plane now. ' akudood;
why would you let ukraine grab it tho, they are in a fuckin shit hole rn
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/741309
rip tattered remains of the ukrainian ecnomy
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/mh17-crash-dominates-front-pages-world-not-russia
lol
Quote from: Tectron on July 18, 2014, 02:43:22 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/mh17-crash-dominates-front-pages-world-not-russia
lol
i wonder what other coutnry does this kitty;
Quote from: Tectron on July 17, 2014, 06:29:08 PM
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russia-s-retaliation-over-eu-deal-awaits-moldova/503597.html
loldova
isn't moldova joining the EU punishment enough for the West saddood;
Quote from: YPR Classic on July 18, 2014, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: Tectron on July 17, 2014, 06:29:08 PM
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russia-s-retaliation-over-eu-deal-awaits-moldova/503597.html
loldova
isn't moldova joining the EU punishment enough for the West saddood;
rofl seriously
http://www.rferl.org/content/moldova-russia-fruit-import-ban/25461654.html
http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/18/5917099/russia-spotted-editing-wikipedia-page-of-downed-malaysia-air-jet
tee hee
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/multimedia/photogalleries/moscow-mourns-victims-of-plane-crash-at-dutch-embassy/5336.html
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/1zkbYR8.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/rHD4Xa5.jpg)[/spoiler]
that first one says "forgive us"
http://www.rferl.org/media/video/25462083.html
[spoiler]
http://time.com/3005439/putin-approval-ratings/[/spoiler]
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/ukrainian-cows-kidnapped-trafficked-to-russia-police-say/503645.html
cow is stolen.
No more milk
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/07/22/meanwhile-in-russia-putin-passes-law-against-protests/
it's funny because this is exactly the law that elevated the euromaidan protests into a fully-fledged revolution lol
putin's lucky his citizens like him, or at least are too distracted by current events to care
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/russia-pressures-ukraine-not-to-ratify-european-union-association-pact/articleshow/38937269.cms (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/russia-pressures-ukraine-not-to-sign-european-union-association-pact/articleshow/38937269.cms)
russia is astoundingly tenacious befuddlement
Quote from: Tectron on July 24, 2014, 01:07:09 AM
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/russia-pressures-ukraine-not-to-ratify-european-union-association-pact/articleshow/38937269.cms (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/russia-pressures-ukraine-not-to-sign-european-union-association-pact/articleshow/38937269.cms)
russia is astoundingly tenacious befuddlement
Russia sounds like a little kid who is upset that its friend is moving onto a more popular clique lol
you know what russia reminds me of
Quote from: http://www.wikihow.com/Recognize-the-Signs-of-an-Abusive-Man
- Watch out for very possessive and controlling guys.
- Monitor his jealousy and insecurity levels.
- Be aware of violence or threats of violence.
- Don't get taken in by the way he cries and rationalizes his behavior.
- Notice if he tries to remove you from public places in order to abuse you.
- Notice if he belittles you all the time.
- Watch how he talks to or about your parents or your friends.
- Be aware of him trying to make you feel guilty.
- Look for patterns.
Tips
- Sometimes, he will accuse you of not loving him. Do not be fooled. This is merely a tactic to make you feel guilty and to stay with him.
- If you tell him that you do not tolerate this behavior and he apologizes one minute and then blames you the next, then he is not sincere. It is time to move on.
- If a man hits you, go. He's got the pattern. There will be a second time, a third time, a fourth time, a hundredth time, until you leave, or die. Get out of there.
- Have a safe place to go away to and it should not be a place he can find you, and should be a place that is neutral, where he has no access.
- When you tell him it's over, make sure to do it in a place where you can be seen, but not necessarily heard, by other people. The last thing you want is to get abused as a result of trying to stop the abuse, and he will be less likely to try anything in a public area.
- Keep a copy of important keys and documents in a place where only you can find them so that if you need to make a quick escape you are not locked in the house and have access to your car and passport etc.
- If you decide to leave him then you must do so and break all ties and communication with him. It is the only way you can successfully move on. He must respect this. He must leave you alone if you request it.
If this doesn't break out into full-blown war this could be one of the best things to ever happen to the Ukraine
Europe will give them anything just to piss off Russia
[spoiler=26 may](http://i.imgur.com/UAl26iY.png)[/spoiler]
[spoiler=22 june](http://i.imgur.com/NXwOOhi.png)[/spoiler]
[spoiler=26 july](http://i.imgur.com/zMBUQGa.png)[/spoiler]
:3
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-releases-images-it-says-show-russia-has-fired-artillery-over-border-into-ukraine/2014/07/27/f9190158-159d-11e4-9e3b-7f2f110c6265_story.html
wmds confirmed
pack your bags, boys, it's time to invade snakedood;
Quote from: Tectron on July 26, 2014, 11:01:07 PM
[spoiler=26 may](http://i.imgur.com/UAl26iY.png)[/spoiler]
[spoiler=22 june](http://i.imgur.com/NXwOOhi.png)[/spoiler]
[spoiler=26 july](http://i.imgur.com/zMBUQGa.png)[/spoiler]
:3
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/3KJIfqn.png)[/spoiler]
oooh myyy goodnesssssssssssssssss giggle; giggle; giggle; giggle;
http://news.sky.com/story/1309179/russia-accused-as-ossetia-fenced-off
this is what happens when you betray the motherland
stalin is turning in his grave over what spineless limp-wristed eurofascists the once-glorious georgians have beome
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/30/us-ukraine-crisis-rebels-idUSKBN0FZ1LZ20140730
it's all coming to pieces
well, at least until putin toughens up after his recent setbacks and injects a new stream of troops and weapons into donbas
http://liveuamap.com/?ll=48.1222933466746;37.517507324218734&zoom=8
neat
looks like ukraine's successfully separated the two breakaway territories
i hadn't realized that mh17 went down directly in between them lol
http://www.ibtimes.com/will-russia-cut-gas-europe-morgan-stanley-analysts-think-so-1643354
where do i sign up to be come an analyst
i wish someone would pay me to spout absolute nonsense about topics i've never researched all day
http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/vladimir-putin-says-world-should-draw-lessons-from-wwi_951808.html
Quote from: PutinIt serves as a reminder of what aggression and selfishness, exorbitant ambitions of heads of state and political elites prevailing over common sense can lead to.
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/743254
http://en.apa.az/xeber_russia_imposes_customs_taxes_on_some_mol_214633.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28603140
http://greece.greekreporter.com/2014/07/31/russia-may-restrict-greek-us-imports/
that last one is particularly funny: http://greece.greekreporter.com/2014/07/04/greek-fruit-and-vegetables-among-the-safest-in-eu/
yesterday: http://www.thedrum.com/news/2014/07/31/selfie-addicted-russian-soldier-caught-ukrainian-territory-instagram-geo-tagging-0
today: https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/11954.19.0.0/world/military/russia-to-ban-soldier-selfies-to-prevent-incriminating-evidence-from-going-viral
lol
world history class in 2088: how was the former russian federation's involvement in the ukrainian crisis of 2013-15 finally revealed?
a. a russian soldier posted a geo-tagged "selfie" (a picture of oneself taken with an ancient cellular phone) to a website known as instagram
b. us satellites caught russian troop movement into ukraine
c. intercepted messages between pro-russian rebels and the russian military
d. none of the above
http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-struggles-to-find-strategy-for-getting-back-crimea/25478894.html (http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-crimea-return/25478894.html)
well that's because there isn't one
does kiev really still think it has any remote chance of getting crimea back
lol
Quote from: Tectron on August 03, 2014, 11:28:39 AM
http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-struggles-to-find-strategy-for-getting-back-crimea/25478894.html (http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-crimea-return/25478894.html)
well that's because there isn't one
does kiev really still think it has any remote chance of getting crimea back
lol
As long as the West refuses to recognise Russia's claim, probably
true, though i'd sure hope ukraine is realistic enough to understand that whether or not the """west""" """recognizes""" a foreign claim is utterly meaningless in practical terms, especially in this case
the most pragmatic approach for ukraine at this point is to hopefully beat back russia's irregular forces in donbas, relinquish crimea in the aftermath as a bargaining chip to alleviate tensions and get russia to fuck; off, and move on
the sooner they acknowledge that they're never getting it back, the sooner we can put this all behind us
[spoiler=and now for my own kiev-level delusional wishful thinking]
and the sooner they can join us in nato because territorial integrity is a fundamental prerequisite[/spoiler]
of course, russia isn't exactly the type of actor known for admitting defeat on any level
http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/07/30/3465744/russia-wants-to-send-`peacekeepers’-to-mh17-crash-site/ (http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/07/30/3465744/russia-un-peacekeepers-mh17/)
http://blogs.cfr.org/davidson/2014/07/30/putin-appears-to-be-angling-for-invasion-not-de-escalation/
so perhaps relinquishing crimea wouldn't be of any help at all lol
in either case they're never getting it back
Quote from: Tectron on August 03, 2014, 12:24:27 PM
true, though i'd sure hope ukraine is realistic enough to understand that whether or not the """west""" """recognizes""" a foreign claim is utterly meaningless in practical terms, especially in this case
the most pragmatic approach for ukraine at this point is to hopefully beat back russia's irregular forces in donbas, relinquish crimea in the aftermath as a bargaining chip to alleviate tensions and get russia to fuck; off, and move on
the sooner they acknowledge that they're never getting it back, the sooner we can put this all behind us
[spoiler=and now for my own kiev-level delusional wishful thinking]
and the sooner they can join us in nato because territorial integrity is a fundamental prerequisite[/spoiler]
the day russia agrees to "fuck; off" from one of her slav sisters, is the day hell truly freezes over. it's almost ingrained into the russian raison d'être to protect all slavs from perceived threats, which nato def. is to them.
unfortunately, although they sure do have an odd definition of "protect"
i can only hope that with enough negative reinforcement they'll at least learn to stop antagonizing the last slav sister to leave the nest so blatantly, but i'm not exactly optimistic
Quote from: Tectron on August 03, 2014, 04:44:07 PM
unfortunately, although they sure do have an odd definition of "protect"
i can only hope that with enough negative reinforcement they'll at least learn to stop antagonizing the last slav sister to leave the nest so blatantly, but i'm not exactly optimistic
WHITERUSSLAND IS STILL VERY MUCH IN THE MOTHERLAND'S BOSOM!!
and i'm sure it wouldn't take much to scare the russlanders in the baltics to revolt
whiterussand will never leave the nest rofl
ukraine will be the last, if ever she makes it out alive
and maybe, but they've been pretty tame thus far, and russian speakers are a much smaller percent of the baltic populations than they are in ukraine
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoshenBefore Russia stopped its imports in July 2013, 40 percent of [Roshen]'s grosses came from Russia.
christ, that has to hurt
roshen is ukraine's largest chocolate and confectionery company, founded by incumbent president po
roshenko
Quote from: Tectron on August 03, 2014, 08:00:04 PM
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoshenBefore Russia stopped its imports in July 2013, 40 percent of [Roshen]'s grosses came from Russia.
christ, that has to hurt
roshen is ukraine's largest chocolate and confectionery company, founded by incumbent president poroshenko
the irony is that russia's sanctions will hurt more than the ones the west is trying to impose on it n_u
especially when you consider that virtually every ukrainian company has suffered or will soon suffer equally massive market loss
Quote from: Tectron on July 18, 2014, 02:17:42 PM
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/741309
rip tattered remains of the ukrainian ecnomy
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-20/russia-trade-halt-to-deepen-ukrainian-recession-pm-says.html
sillydood;
Quote from: Tectron on August 03, 2014, 08:32:16 PM
especially when you consider that virtually every ukrainian company has suffered or will soon suffer equally massive market loss
Quote from: Tectron on July 18, 2014, 02:17:42 PM
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/741309
rip tattered remains of the ukrainian ecnomy
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-20/russia-trade-halt-to-deepen-ukrainian-recession-pm-says.html
sillydood;
this will just cause dissatisfaction w/ the rest of ukrainians
it definitely will
and economic unrest as a result of western/eu realignment is the absolute best thing russia could possibly hope for lol
i pray to gourd ukraine is capable of long-term thinking, because 201X is going to be a rough decade
Well they can't be worse than Greece right?
Quote from: YPR Classic on August 04, 2014, 08:19:24 AM
Well they can't be worse than Greece right?
Wanna bet? myface;
but greece was at least (assumed to be) economically sound when it gained entry into the eu/eurozone, and ukraine's economy too will need to stabilize before anyone even considers sending them a formal invite
[spoiler]
rofl as if ukraine will EVER be economically stable goowan[/spoiler]
Quote from: Tectron on August 04, 2014, 01:16:18 PM
Quote from: YPR Classic on August 04, 2014, 08:19:24 AM
Well they can't be worse than Greece right?
Wanna bet? myface;
but greece was at least (assumed to be) economically sound when it gained entry into the eu/eurozone, and ukraine's economy too will need to stabilize before anyone even considers sending them a formal invite
[spoiler]
rofl as if ukraine will EVER be economically stable goowan[/spoiler]
they would be if they listened to mother russia
in either case, at least they're sure to stabilize at rock bottom
on the plus side, we can look forward to the derogatory PIGS acronym evolving into PUGS :3
Quote from: Tectron on August 04, 2014, 03:26:13 PM
on the plus side, we can look forward to the derogatory PIGS acronym becoming PUGS :3
it'll become piigsu m8
http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/08/04/russia-independent-journalist-found-dead
The last independent journalist in Russia sat alone in a room. There was a knock on the door...
when is isil going to conquer russia
speaking of which, i really wish wikipedia would update maps of ongoing territorial conflict on a more regular basis
the current map of the isis was last updated three weeks ago
ukraine's seems to be updated at more frequent intervals (or at least the secondary maps do), but the primary map it uses to denote """novorossiya""" territory is two days from being a month old akudood;
http://www.clickhole.com/article/ukraine-crisis-explained-gifs-and-depth-policy-pap-661
if you ignore the "purpose" for the article, the embedded pdfs from thinktanks can be a good read
http://www.trust.org/item/20140805153410-9za5j
here it comes
http://www.rferl.org/content/moldova-russia-troops-transdniester-withdrawal/26515618.html
i lol'd
http://en.ria.ru/news/20140805/191756462/Moscow-to-Insist-on-Setting-Up-Humanitarian-Mission-in-East.html
yep, so this is how it ends for ukraine
after the us/uk/france veto this proposal at the speed of sound, expect russia to go along with it anyway while maniacally shrieking 'IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ KOSOVO KOSOVO KOSOVO' as loudly and as frequently as it can, every agonizing femtometer of the way
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/q5aJQZQ.png) (https://twitter.com/FPWatcher/status/497021807095214081)[/spoiler]
the ukrainian military has been kind of stagnant since the last major update about a week ago
i'm a little worried
[spoiler]
and soon to be very worried the moment russia formally gets involved[/spoiler]
http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/04/ukrainian-parliamentary-meeting-devolves-into-brawl-again/360322/
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeSE1OQ1WrA
[/youtube]
lmao
Tfw even accusing the president of lying doesn't elicit this sort of response here
[spoiler=maximum envisaged extent of """novorossiya"""](http://i.imgur.com/duNXZ6H.png)
lol they even snuck transnistria in there thinking nobody would notice[/spoiler]
[spoiler=actual]
(http://i.imgur.com/CCeK2E8.png)
[/spoiler]
goowan
these people have no idea how lucky they are that russia is just a hair away from bailing them out
poor crimea
https://news.vice.com/article/yes-there-are-chechen-fighters-in-ukraine-and-nobody-knows-who-sent-them-there
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07/02/the-face-of-isis-young-red-bearded-chechen-leads-the-charge-to-establish-islamic-state-in-syria-and-iraq/
place your bets on when the following will become reality !!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28736722/isis-emerges-in-ukraine-via-chechen-jihadists
Quote from: Tectron on August 08, 2014, 05:56:54 PM
https://news.vice.com/article/yes-there-are-chechen-fighters-in-ukraine-and-nobody-knows-who-sent-them-there
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07/02/the-face-of-isis-young-red-bearded-chechen-leads-the-charge-to-establish-islamic-state-in-syria-and-iraq/
place your bets on when the following will become reality !!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28736722/isis-emerges-in-ukraine-via-chechen-jihadists
is putin deporting chechen rebels to ukraine in order to cause a situtation in which they need protection from mother russland?
http://www.cnn.com/video/world/2014/08/05/isis-allied-chechen-jihadists-hijack-malaysian-airliner-en-route-to-ukraine.html
Quote from: Tectron on August 08, 2014, 06:42:26 PM
http://www.cnn.com/video/world/2014/08/05/isis-allied-chechen-jihadists-hijack-malaysian-airliner-en-route-to-ukraine.html
oh dog
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-08-08/ukraine-threatens-oil-and-gas-cut-off-in-russia-sanctions (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-08-08/ukraine-says-it-s-tightening-encirclement-of-rebels)
Well good luck with that. doodthing;
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/oh-no-russian-troops-near-ukraine-are-painting-peacekeeper-on-their-tanks-55ff3dba7e78
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/1Peyysa.png)[/spoiler]
happydood;
http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/08/10/ukraine-says-no-ceasefire-until-separatists-surrender-idINKBN0GA0C220140810 (http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/08/10/ukraine-crisis-idINKBN0GA0C220140810)
good
never fall for their underhanded tactrix again
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/belarus-offers-to-supply-oil-products-to-ukraine/504527.html
this headline made me do a double take and audibly exclaim "Wait, what?"
Belarus acting out against the wishes of the motherland? befuddlement befuddlement
and the immediate aftermath: http://www.charter97.org/en/news/2014/8/4/state-duma-deputy-offers-to-ban-oil-deliveries-to-belarus/ (http://www.charter97.org/en/news/2014/8/4/109747/)
and oh my god, the comments, all of which are from belarusians
QuoteExplain how the Russians were able to turn the whole country into unthinking zombies?
QuotePutin has learned from Joseph Goebbels: "Give me the media, and I will turn the people into a herd of pigs!" "We seek not the truth, and the effect." "a lie, a hundred times becomes the truth." "Information is to be simple and easy to repeat and must be driven into the head, it is necessary as often as possible. "
QuoteIt's easy! Just like Hitler in his time the people of Germany. Like it or not, and in Russian, as well as the Germans when you formed complex offended nation. Germans resented in the Treaty of Versailles, Russian for the breakdown of the scoop. Here on this soil and put in the right moment the seeds of propaganda. And do not say that they have been deceived! They waited and wished for!
QuoteThe country is governed chosen cast (not Russian) it with the help of technology and the media makes Russian zombies.
Subtleties I will not explain because the data belong to the chosen technologies, in short if you were asked this question then you are in the search, I can tell where to look for the language and its hypnotic effects on the mind,
NLP, Gestahl, television and the Internet, the impact of torsion fields on the brain when get a handle on this, then all the technology of mind control to see the TV and all will become clear. Good luck.
is this real life right now
QuoteDuplicitous nit includes fool! He beguiled who the aggressor and who protects his country! Bastard forgot that Ukraine is still not out of the CIS (hopefully coming soon) and Russia commits aggression against its ally. Has always been known that this office (CIS) - a stillborn education as TC, where Russia has always been involved elementary dictates and finding one-sided, self-benefit.
i mean holy shit
internet comments aren't exactly a gauge of national opinion but how is it even remotely possible that they're not all parroting the russian mantra 1:1
every single one of them is pro-ukrainian
Quote from: Tectron on August 10, 2014, 08:18:01 PM
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/belarus-offers-to-supply-oil-products-to-ukraine/504527.html
this headline made me do a double take and audibly exclaim "Wait, what?"
Belarus acting out against the wishes of the motherland? befuddlement befuddlement
and the immediate aftermath: http://www.charter97.org/en/news/2014/8/4/state-duma-deputy-offers-to-ban-oil-deliveries-to-belarus/ (http://www.charter97.org/en/news/2014/8/4/109747/)
and as for why this matters
http://www.rferl.org/contentinfographics/gazprom-russia-gas-leverage-europe/25441983.html
Belarus could very well make a profit selling energy to Ukraine for notably less than what going directly through Gazprom cost it. goowan
http://vestnikkavkaza.net/news/politics/58714.html
more betrayal of the motherland by kazarus
this is astounding
http://en.rsf.org/ukraine-ukrainian-parliament-approves-very-12-08-2014,46793.html
meet the new ukraine, same as the old ukraine
Quote from: Tectron on August 02, 2014, 02:15:05 PM
yesterday: http://www.thedrum.com/news/2014/07/31/selfie-addicted-russian-soldier-caught-ukrainian-territory-instagram-geo-tagging-0
today: https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/11954.19.0.0/world/military/russia-to-ban-soldier-selfies-to-prevent-incriminating-evidence-from-going-viral
lol
http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/soldier-whose-instagram-selfies-appeared-to-show-him-in-ukrane-says-russian-army-discharging-him#1jvdht6 (http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/soldier-whose-instagram-selfies-appeared-to-show-him-in-ukra#1jvdht6)
buzzfeed
u
z
z
f
e
e
d
yes, the pinnacle of hard-hitting journalism
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/tMPjn7M.jpg)[/spoiler]
i have to wonder why they haven't yet tried to pry the rest of """luhansk people's republic""" away from the russian border
you'd think they're prioritize cutting off the weapons supply
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etIhGAQkAT8[/youtube]
lmao
this country is doomed
in wake of the recent news (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-crisis-russian-aid-convoy-heads-straight-for-rebels-in-luhansk-as-fears-intensify-of-direct-invasion-9667836.html):
http://www.businessinsider.com/4-times-russia-used-pretext-of-assistance-to-invade-2014-8
[spoiler=and of course, they also did it to poorland](http://i.imgur.com/SuD8pbi.jpg)[/spoiler]
http://www.interpressnews.ge/en/world/60613-most-of-russian-humanitarian-trucks-are-half-empty--foreign-journalists.html
https://twitter.com/RoslyakovAP/status/500192222080663552/photo/1
https://twitter.com/courtneymoscow/status/500198661503352832
Remind me again why Russia's global approval ratings are so low (http://www.gallup.com/poll/168467/tops-global-leaders-approval.aspx)? befuddlement
https://news.yahoo.com/crimea-wants-out-of-russian-food-sanctions-185424590.html (https://news.yahoo.com/crimea-wants-russian-food-sanctions-185424590.html)
previously: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/crimea-besieged-ukraine-control-power-water
so you mean to tell me, for logistical purposes, khrushchev was correct and it makes more sense for crimea to be attached to ukraine?? no way....................
http://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-foreign-minister-calls-nato-eu-give-military-support-265063
poor guy is going to get left out in the cold
litchrally
maybe poland will lend a hand considering that ukraine's in exactly the same position poland was in 100 years ago and can perfectly empathize with the pain and suffering of russian brutality
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/poland-puts-biggest-military-parade-years-24992886
they're so adorable
Quote from: Tectron on August 13, 2014, 05:58:43 PM
yes, the pinnacle of hard-hitting journalism
5 tumblr gifs about the time in the russian mulitary
dat tym u took a selfie(http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/52decb8feab8ea5b60b584d2/selfie%20gif.gif)
the tim ur rashions not enuf(http://31.media.tumblr.com/a4b9b76ba1c22b6ff425f6fafe098a64/tumblr_mrd4uwPeZ21sf9d9bo1_500.gif)
the tim it snow and u r invaded(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdlmbuuXoD1rkfvjso3_250.gif)
nd u fit tehm off(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140115192157/villains/images/f/f7/Marshmallow-and-Hans-frozen-35645883-500-274.gif)
but u still is discharg(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4eqn81BWT1qdnsr8.gif)
that time russia tried to get whiterussia to do something and it didn't follow along
(http://i.minus.com/ibihs67gUHMgrK.gif)
that time malorussia tried to deny its rich russian heritage and instead buddy up with nazionist fascist homosexuals in EUSA
(http://i.imgur.com/qdWKIur.gif)
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2014/08/17/world/europe/nato-would-respond-militarily-to-crimea-style-infiltration-general.html (http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2014/08/17/world/europe/17reuters-ukraine-crisis-breedlove.html?_r=0)
Wow, this headline is prime clickbait. awdood;
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/17/pro-federalism-protests-banned-siberia-russia-nine-activists-held
lol
russia's lucky that those nine are the only nine who are interested in seeing an autonomous siberia
http://en.delfi.lt/central-eastern-europe/turchynov-ukraine-will-be-ready-to-join-eu-in-five-years (http://en.delfi.lt/central-eastern-europe/turchynov-ukraine-will-be-ready-to-join-eu-in-five-years.d?id=65582250)
LOL
Quote from: Tectron on August 18, 2014, 03:44:42 PM
http://en.delfi.lt/central-eastern-europe/turchynov-ukraine-will-be-ready-to-join-eu-in-five-years (http://en.delfi.lt/central-eastern-europe/turchynov-ukraine-will-be-ready-to-join-eu-in-five-years.d?id=65582250)
LOL
will ukraine even exist in 2019 though
does ukraine even exist today
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-gardels/strobe-talbott-russia-ukraine_b_5688516.html
QuoteSecondly, there are conflicting geopolitical and ethnographic realities. Russia has the largest territorial state on the planet, sharing a long border with the most populous state on the planet, China. Russia has a lot of what China wants -- raw materials.
That is a formula for serious competition down the road, and even for conflict.
why do people keep implying that china wants anything russia has badly enough for there to be potential conflict
unless russia implodes again, china will never, EVER cause trouble in/with russia over land or resources, even if it might still be bitter about the soviet/russian empire transgressions against it that are ancient history by now
if china wants something that russia has, they'll do exactly what they did in the case of that recent gas deal and say 'hey, sell that shit to us on the cheap (http://i.imgur.com/zwWQ6oU.png)'
[spoiler]
not to mention that gigantic and completely empty buffer state mongolia sandwiched between them which exists exactly to prevent any violence directly between russia and china[/spoiler]
Quote from: Tectron on August 19, 2014, 01:53:00 PM
unless russia implodes again, china will never, EVER cause trouble in/with russia over land or resources, even if it might still be bitter about the soviet/russian empire transgressions against it that are ancient history by now
just like the ussr is ancient history? leputinface
lol
putin may be looking to replicate the ussr as closely as possible but he can only get so far with 1/5 of the participants
and just like today's china would never touch russia, today's russia would never touch china, it's simply not powerful enough to get away with that anymore
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/505354.html
bye bye bulgaria
Quote from: Tectron on August 19, 2014, 07:27:03 PM
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/505354.html
bye bye bulgaria
and immediately after this
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-28854089/bulgaria-suspends-south-stream-project (http://www.bbc.com/news/business-28854089)
i fuck;
ing lol'd, heartily
i hope all russia's bullying accomplishes is to inspire even more vandalism of the leftover symbols of soviet oppression
[spoiler=putin with the removal of western slander](http://i.imgur.com/lWGQhuV.jpg)[/spoiler]
Quote from: Tectron on August 19, 2014, 07:27:03 PM
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/505354.html
bye bye bulgaria
poor lawlz
bulgaria will someday conquer the russian empire
one can only hope
http://charter97.org/en/news/2014/8/19/111741/
oh god lol
belarus amazes me
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/20/ukraine-conflict-draining-economy-hampering-reforms-pm-yatseniuk.html (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/20/us-ukraine-crisis-economy-idUSKBN0GK0W820140820)
yup
that's the whole purpose of this manufactured conflict lol
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/08/ukraine-says-seized-10-russian-soldiers-201482692425117550.html
hours later:
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/art_n_ideas/article/russia-claims-captured-soldiers-crossed-ukraine-border-by-accident/505867.html
i mean really
not directly related, but take a look at what happened in israel after ceasefire negotiations commenced:
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Poll-finds-huge-fall-in-PMs-approval-rating-372293
QuoteThe poll found that 50 percent of Israelis were dissatisfied with Netanyahu and just 38% were satisfied – a 17% drop since a poll broadcast Thursday night and a massive drop since his approval rating hit a peak of 82% on July 23 after ground troops entered the Gaza Strip.
this is exactly the scenario putin is trying to avoid, and why he will stop at nothing short of an outright victory in ukraine
and victory means kiev de facto relinquishing control in the donbas, creating another permafrozen conflict that will keep ukraine chained to russia at the hip against its will and prevent it from ever moving forward politically, much like we see in moldova and georgia today
in the past few days, putin's irregular forces have staged an offensive far south of donbas, as far as the shores of the sea of azov
i suppose it makes sense that russia would prefer for its new buffer state to not be landlocked
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/27/finland-sweden-strengthen-ties-nato?CMP=twt_gu
beautiful
also, it's been confirmed: russia itself has now invaded ukraine (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/us-russian-directing-new-offensive-ukraine)
this is surreal
when does shock and awe start over moscow?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28949582
sigh
i think i'm going to not read the news today
russia's newest strategy, by the way, is to capture as many large/densely populated cities on the eastern border as possible, forcing ukraine to inflict significant civilian casualties if it wishes to reclaim them and undermine the ukrainian government's international and local support in the process
HABBENING!
http://www.therecord.com/news-story/4804623-russia-invades-ukraine-calls-draft/
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/ukraine-enacts-compulsory-military-draft-n94906
Jesus Christ. We all knew this was inevitably going to happen, but there's simply no way to prepare for the sheer agony of seeing confirmation that this is actually legitimately occurring. awdood;
http://news.yahoo.com/rights-adviser-putin-says-russia-invading-ukraine-105913686.html
this poor woman just signed her death warrant
in other news,
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2014/08/14/world/europe/putin-says-russia-will-do-its-utmost-to-stop-bloodshed-in-ukraine
(http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2014/08/14/world/europe/14reuters-ukraine-crisis-putin-crimea.html?ref=world)
list of things i want to hear right now:
http://www.ibtimes.com/russian-invasion-breaks-budapest-memorandum-may-prompt-nato-action-1672790
Sure. Maybe in some other lifetime. awdood;
Quote from: Tectron on August 29, 2014, 01:08:13 AM
http://www.ibtimes.com/russian-invasion-breaks-budapest-memorandum-may-prompt-nato-action-1672790
Sure. Maybe in some other lifetime. awdood;
*NATO breaks out the paper wrist slappers*
QuoteIn a talk Friday afternoon, Putin compared Ukrainian troops firing at civilians and surrounding cities in eastern Ukraine to Nazi invaders who laid siege to the Soviet siege of Leningrad in 1941-1944.
putin, the master of completely inappropriate and deliberately disingenuous comparisons
http://www.bbc.com/news/ukraine-to-seek-nato-membership-yatsenyuk (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28978699)
Headlines like these are some of the most depressing to read. I'm so sorry this is never going to happen, Ukraine. smithicide;
http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/russia-journalists-attacked-while-investigating-secret-soldier-burials.html (http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-russia-journalists-attacked-20140827-story.html)
What a complete surprise !!
Quote from: Tectron on August 29, 2014, 06:01:48 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/ukraine-to-seek-nato-membership-yatsenyuk (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28978699)
Headlines like these are some of the most depressing to read. I'm so sorry this is never going to happen, Ukraine. smithicide;
also, reminder that support for nato in ukraine is at 47% as of june (from being in the mere teens prior to the initial invasion), i'm certain it's beyond 50% by now
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/29/putin-dont-mess-with-nuclear-russia (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/29/russia-putin-conflict-idUKL5N0QZ3HC20140829)
seriously can we do something about this guy
this is getting insane
and quite personal
and as a us citizen living on the outskirts of the largest city in the country i'm beginning to genuinely worry about my safety so long as putin exists nyandood;
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/PaLBfhG.jpg)[/spoiler]
remember what it looked like a few weeks ago
Quote from: Tectron on August 10, 2014, 05:52:04 PM
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/1Peyysa.png)[/spoiler]
happydood;
The momentum was in Ukraine's favor. They were going to win. smithicide;
I wonder how Russia would react to Ukraine building a border wall. Probably as an act of war, but on the other hand, Russians love walls
Quote from: Tectron on August 28, 2014, 01:38:01 PM
russia's newest strategy, by the way, is to capture as many large/densely populated cities on the eastern border as possible, forcing ukraine to inflict significant civilian casualties if it wishes to reclaim them and undermine the ukrainian government's international and local support in the process
so it's sort of like israel and gaza
except with who is invading who
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/eu-gives-russia-a-week-to-cut-ukraine-military-involvement-or-face-new-sanctions/ (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/eu-gives-russia-a-week-to-cut-ukraine-military-involvement-or-face-new-sanctions/story-e6frg6so-1227042733075?nk=17dd7ae954edb3fb6bbdea45d13e2e32)
QuoteEuropean Union leaders on Sunday gave Russia a week to reverse course in Ukraine or face a new round of sanctions
lol psyduck;
http://www.forexlive.com/blog/2014/08/30/lithuania-war-grybauskaite-russia-ukraine-europe-31-august-2014/
litva is the only thinking country in the world
Quote from: Tectron on August 30, 2014, 02:43:18 AM
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/PaLBfhG.jpg)[/spoiler]
remember what it looked like a few weeks ago
Quote from: Tectron on August 10, 2014, 05:52:04 PM
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/1Peyysa.png)[/spoiler]
happydood;
The momentum was in Ukraine's favor. They were going to win. smithicide;
looks like chlamydia
well, russia is a disease
Quote from: Tectron on August 30, 2014, 05:56:31 PM
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/eu-gives-russia-a-week-to-cut-ukraine-military-involvement-or-face-new-sanctions/ (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/eu-gives-russia-a-week-to-cut-ukraine-military-involvement-or-face-new-sanctions/story-e6frg6so-1227042733075?nk=17dd7ae954edb3fb6bbdea45d13e2e32)
QuoteEuropean Union leaders on Sunday gave Russia a week to reverse course in Ukraine or face a new round of sanctions
lol psyduck;
i hope russia conquers all of ukraine in this week
http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2024429000_russiainsidexml.html
you mean to tell me that putin was lying all along..............................
http://en.tengrinews.kz/politics_sub/Kazakhstan-may-leave-EEU-if-its-interests-are-infringed-Nazarbayev-255722/
Quote from: Pres. NazarbayevI have said this before and I am saying this again. Kazakhstan will not be part of organizations that pose a threat to our independence. Our independence is our dearest treasure, which our grandfathers fought for. First of all, we will never surrender it to someone, and secondly, we will do our best to protect it.
Huh. befuddlement
Quote from: Tectron on August 28, 2014, 01:33:36 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28949582
sigh
i think i'm going to not read the news today
more of this
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/30/us-ukraine-crisis-russia-funerals-idUSKBN0GU0B020140830
http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-backed-separatists-hit-ukrainian-vessel-in-first-naval-attack-of-war-2014-8
oh joy
Quote from: Tectron on August 31, 2014, 08:09:41 AM
http://en.tengrinews.kz/politics_sub/Kazakhstan-may-leave-EEU-if-its-interests-are-infringed-Nazarbayev-255722/
Quote from: Pres. NazarbayevI have said this before and I am saying this again. Kazakhstan will not be part of organizations that pose a threat to our independence. Our independence is our dearest treasure, which our grandfathers fought for. First of all, we will never surrender it to someone, and secondly, we will do our best to protect it.
Huh. befuddlement
http://www.eurasianet.org/node/69771
Kazland...
[spoiler]
of course, i might take this with a grain of salt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines[/spoiler]
Quote from: Tectron on August 31, 2014, 04:33:56 PM
Quote from: Tectron on August 31, 2014, 08:09:41 AM
http://en.tengrinews.kz/politics_sub/Kazakhstan-may-leave-EEU-if-its-interests-are-infringed-Nazarbayev-255722/
Quote from: Pres. NazarbayevI have said this before and I am saying this again. Kazakhstan will not be part of organizations that pose a threat to our independence. Our independence is our dearest treasure, which our grandfathers fought for. First of all, we will never surrender it to someone, and secondly, we will do our best to protect it.
Huh. befuddlement
http://www.eurasianet.org/node/69771
Kazland...
[spoiler]
of course, i might take this with a grain of salt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines[/spoiler]
[spoiler=also, context](http://i.imgur.com/WwJSo0r.png)[/spoiler]
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29007631
yyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss
too bad it'll never happen
if we're going to roll over and pretend to be ignorant of the gravity of this situation then russia has every right to take over the world
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11066256/Fears-of-massacre-after-accusations-Russians-reneged-on-safe-passage-for-Ukrainian-forces.html
http://www.inquisitr.com/1445124/russian-troops-reportedly-massacre-ukranian-soldiers-waving-white-flags/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine_(2014)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-01/merkel-says-europe-won-t-allow-russia-attack-on-ukraine.html
nice of you to say this now that the attack is already well underwa--
QuoteChancellor Angela Merkel said the European Union will press ahead with tougher sanctions [...]
Oh.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/if-the-west-won-t-help-ukraine-china-will/506160.html
now i have seen some truly insane opinion pieces, but this
this is a whole new level of absurd
QuoteIf Ukraine begins to crumble militarily, don't be surprised if Beijing starts to supply it with war materiel. It may help Ukraine survive, but what it will mean for the EU and U.S. is another matter.
what bizarro fantasy is this guy living in goonish
and seriously, how on earth does one get paid for writing arbitrary nonsense like this, it's like he played mad libs with popular buzzwords in the news
'if boko haram can't quell the ebola outbreak, malaysia airlines will'
'if ferguson begins to crumble militarily, don't be surprised if isis starts to supply it with war materiel, it may help ferguson survive, but what it will mean for rob ford's reelection campaign is another matter'
Quote from: Tectron on September 01, 2014, 08:15:37 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-01/merkel-says-europe-won-t-allow-russia-attack-on-ukraine.html
nice of you to say this now that the attack is already well underwa--
QuoteChancellor Angela Merkel said the European Union will press ahead with tougher sanctions [...]
Oh.
God, this is appeasement all over again. These Europoors have no idea that this is even happening
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukraine-crisis-if-i-want-i-will-take-kiev-two-weeks-putin-warns-eus-barroso-1463471
may as well get it over with at this point, nobody's going to lift a finger
Quote from: Tectron on September 01, 2014, 04:11:28 PM
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukraine-crisis-if-i-want-i-will-take-kiev-two-weeks-putin-warns-eus-barroso-1463471
may as well get it over with at this point, nobody's going to lift a finger
lol 'if'
https://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/2277
i agree with most every aspect of this bill, but everything about it seems like a mere preamble for the truly important fourth-to-last point
QuoteUrges the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), the Trade and Development Agency, the Overseas Private Investment Corporation (OPIC), the World Bank Group, and the European Bank for Reconstruction to promote assistance to Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova in order to exploit natural gas and oil reserves and to develop alternative energy sources.
lol
oh well not like it matters it's never going to pass
Quote from: Tectron on September 01, 2014, 07:03:04 PM
https://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/2277
i agree with most every aspect of this bill, but everything about it seems like a mere preamble for the truly important fourth-to-last point
QuoteUrges the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), the Trade and Development Agency, the Overseas Private Investment Corporation (OPIC), the World Bank Group, and the European Bank for Reconstruction to promote assistance to Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova in order to exploit natural gas and oil reserves and to develop alternative energy sources.
lol
oh well not like it matters it's never going to pass
imagine if the short name was
russian aggression prevention enactment
http://thespeaker.co/russians-protesting-war-ukraine-arrested-russian-police-video/
too bad there's only like five of them
Quote from: David on September 01, 2014, 09:32:41 PM
imagine if the short name was
russian aggression prevention enactment
lol
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-02/obama-to-deliver-warning-to-putin-on-nato-s-frontier.html
oh joy, yet another "warning"
thanks, obama
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/08/28/poll-among-foreign-crises-more-americans-support-us-action/14623319/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/08/28/usa-today-pew-poll-us-role-in-the-world/14623319/)
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/russia-has-severed/1340912.html
QuoteRussia has "effectively severed its partnership" with Europe and wants to establish a new order [...]
wow, i wonder if she's finally getting the messa--
Quote[...] German President Joachim Gauck said on Monday
I give up. awdood;
after kiev is taken over, how long do you give the other exussrers to live?
i give estolitvia a week
it'll be even quicker than the time it takes for merkel to formally sign them off to putin
http://theweek.com/article/index/267438/speedreads-ukraine-announces-permanent-cease-fire-after-phone-call-with-russias-vladimir-putin
and so putin wins, with the creation of yet another permafrozen conflict that will sap every ounce of ukraine's political/economic/social energy and forever keep it stagnant and subordinate and incapable of ever progressing away from russia
good showing, vlad
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-09-03/putins-spokesman-russia-did-not-agree-a-ceasefire/
lol i did think it was odd that putin was speaking on behalf of a military campaign whose existence he refused to acknowledge
anyway, i can't wait to see the terms and conditions of this agreement
Quote from: Tectron on August 08, 2014, 06:42:26 PM
http://www.cnn.com/video/world/2014/08/05/isis-allied-chechen-jihadists-hijack-malaysian-airliner-en-route-to-ukraine.html
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/islamic-state-to-putin-we-are-on-our-way-to-russia/506366.html (http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/islamic-state-to-putin-we-are-on-our-way/506366.html)
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/09/01/russia-ditches-plans-for-no-gays-eurovision-rival/
Quote from: Tectron on September 03, 2014, 08:23:20 AM
Quote from: Tectron on August 08, 2014, 06:42:26 PM
http://www.cnn.com/video/world/2014/08/05/isis-allied-chechen-jihadists-hijack-malaysian-airliner-en-route-to-ukraine.html
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/islamic-state-to-putin-we-are-on-our-way-to-russia/506366.html (http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/islamic-state-to-putin-we-are-on-our-way/506366.html)
nice
http://thespeaker.co/russian-populations-support-annexation-crimea-dropping-rising-poll/
Huh. befuddlement
also,
http://www.france24.com/en/20140903-france-suspends-plans-deliver-first-mistral-helicopter-carrier-russia/
proud of u, frants
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/03/us-ukraine-crisis-obama-idUSKBN0GY1IP20140903
Words with some backbone coming from our limp-wristed western """leaders"""? befuddlement
QuoteNATO must make concrete commitments to help Ukraine modernize and strengthen its security forces. We must do more to help other NATO partners, including Georgia and Moldova, strengthen their defenses as well.
whoa
pinch me, i'm dreaming
QuoteObama also called on European states to increase their defense spending.
agreed
dirty freeloaders
Quote from: Tectron on September 03, 2014, 07:47:44 PM
QuoteObama also called on European states to increase their defense spending.
agreed
dirty freeloaders
for reference:
Quote from: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-02/hey-nato-why-cant-you-be-more-like-estonia(http://i.imgur.com/yzReGkn.png) (http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-02/hey-nato-why-cant-you-be-more-like-estonia)
nato members have a contractual obligation to invest a minimum of 2% of their gdp in defense
Quote from: Tectron on September 03, 2014, 08:06:05 PM
Quote from: Tectron on September 03, 2014, 07:47:44 PM
QuoteObama also called on European states to increase their defense spending.
agreed
dirty freeloaders
for reference:
Quote from: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-02/hey-nato-why-cant-you-be-more-like-estonia(http://i.imgur.com/yzReGkn.png) (http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-02/hey-nato-why-cant-you-be-more-like-estonia)
nato members have a contractual obligation to invest a minimum of 2% of their gdp in defense
nice to see germany footing the bill for greece to meet its obligation
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/03/russia-military-exercise_n_5762292.html
jesus christ
Quote from: David on September 03, 2014, 08:12:40 PM
nice to see germany footing the bill for greece to meet its obligation
lol
Quote from: Tectron on September 03, 2014, 08:13:29 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/03/russia-military-exercise_n_5762292.html
jesus christ
I wonder if that will accidentally cross the border too
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/09/04/uk-ukraine-crisis-lavrov-idUKKBN0GZ0SP20140904
as if ukraine will ever even be invited
QuoteRussia's foreign minister [...] told the United States not to try to impose its will on [Ukraine].
lol
Quote from: Tectron on August 31, 2014, 05:47:00 PM
Quote from: Tectron on August 31, 2014, 04:33:56 PM
Quote from: Tectron on August 31, 2014, 08:09:41 AM
http://en.tengrinews.kz/politics_sub/Kazakhstan-may-leave-EEU-if-its-interests-are-infringed-Nazarbayev-255722/
Quote from: Pres. NazarbayevI have said this before and I am saying this again. Kazakhstan will not be part of organizations that pose a threat to our independence. Our independence is our dearest treasure, which our grandfathers fought for. First of all, we will never surrender it to someone, and secondly, we will do our best to protect it.
Huh. befuddlement
http://www.eurasianet.org/node/69771
Kazland...
[spoiler]
of course, i might take this with a grain of salt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines[/spoiler]
[spoiler=also, context](http://i.imgur.com/WwJSo0r.png)[/spoiler]
http://azeridaily.com/news/669/russia-concentrates-troops-on kazakh-border (http://azeridaily.com/news/669)
okay, i lol'd
say goodbye to kazland once nazarbayev is dead
http://en.europeonline-magazine.eu/extranato-allies-to-supply-ukraine-with-lethal-military-equipment_353815.html
Progress, I guess. befuddlement
nederland and australia have already pledged to assist
[spoiler=though i have to say]
QuoteIn addition, the alliance has pledged 15 million euros (20 million dollars) in defence aid to Kiev, says NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen.
What exactly can an army even do with ,15m? Purchase a rusty WWII-era tank and some stale marshmallows to fire out of the cannon? doodhuh;[/spoiler]
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russian-state-tv-airs-video-game-poster-claims-it-s-u-s-propaganda/506398.html
Quote from: Tectron on September 02, 2014, 10:49:40 PM
i give estolitvia a week
oh my god lol
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukraine-crisis-estonia-intelligence-officer-kidnapped-gunpoint-taken-russia-1464196
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/ukraines-fragile-cease-fire-threatened-by-mariupol-shelling.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/ukraines-fragile-cease-fire-seems-to-be-holding/2014/09/06/b799a458-35fa-11e4-9e92-0899b306bbea_story.html)
what a surprise
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russian-general-calls-for-preemptive-nuclear-strike-doctrine-against-nato/506370.html
I'm beginning to wish we had gone through with Operation Unthinkable (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable). goodjob;
Imagine if we had done that and nuked China into submission in Korea :(
China is too glorious to nuke.
Now we can use them to keep India in line
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-29111188
russia confirmed for wanting to reestablish the soviet union
that was confirmed the very moment the words "eurasian union" were first uttered
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/serbia-caught-middle-ukraine-25344174
QuoteMoscow is also issuing quiet threats that it could drop its endorsement in the United Nations for Serbia's opposition to the independence of Kosovo
lmao
some friend you are, russia
Quote from: Tectron on September 08, 2014, 07:50:23 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/serbia-caught-middle-ukraine-25344174
QuoteMoscow is also issuing quiet threats that it could drop its endorsement in the United Nations for Serbia's opposition to the independence of Kosovo
lmao
some friend you are, russia
Russia is acting like a crazy teenager lol @_@
The funny thing, is when Jong-il Kim acted like this, our media would immediately think he was dying. Putin cancer diagnosis made public when?
Does Russia have any allies left?
even belarus and kazland seem to be wary of putin's antics these days
http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-nato-unprecedented-challenge-russia-210954672.html
Are you scared, Russia? tomatoes;
[spoiler]
Quote from: PutinUkraine in NATO would be an unprecedented challenge to European security, the biggest since the collapse of the Berlin Wall
lmao this guy's language goonish[/spoiler]
Quote from: Tectron on September 09, 2014, 04:43:48 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-nato-unprecedented-challenge-russia-210954672.html
Are you scared, Russia? tomatoes;
[spoiler]
Quote from: PutinUkraine in NATO would be an unprecedented challenge to European security, the biggest since the collapse of the Berlin Wall
lmao this guy's language goonish[/spoiler]
[spoiler=nato's reaction](http://i.imgur.com/i6kZeQS.jpg)[/spoiler]
Quote from: https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-steps-russian-trade-war-185142479.htmlRussia in June extended its long list of banned Ukrainian foods products to all forms of confectionery.
i lol'd
http://en.trend.az/casia/kazakhstan/2309382.html
you're treading dangerous waters, kazland
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/27/ukraine-warns-eu-of-russian-gas-cutoff (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/27/ukraine-crisis-gas-idUSL5N0QX22M20140827)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/10/german-and-polish-gas-operators-report-lower-supply-from-russia (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/10/us-ukraine-crisis-gas-poland-idUSKBN0H51OP20140910)
ukraine, are you... are you stealing, again
you wouldn't do that to me in these dire times, would you............
til """novorossiya"""' has its own official news agency
http://novorossia.today/
i feel like clicking on this would get me added to a list
http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2014/09/how-russia-revolutionizing-information-warfare/93635/
an inside look at how truth has been utterly aborted from the ground up in russian media:
QuoteWhen Alexei Volin, Russia’s deputy minister of communications, was confronted with the fact that the crucifixion story was a fabrication, he showed no embarrassment, instead suggesting that all that mattered were ratings. “The public likes how our main TV channels present material, the tone of our programs,” he said. “The share of viewers for news programs on Russian TV has doubled over the last two months.”
QuoteIn a lecture last year to journalism students at Moscow State University, Volin suggested that students forget about making the world a better place. “We should give students a clear understanding: They are going to work for The Man, and The Man will tell them what to write, what not to write, and how this or that thing should be written,” he said. “And The Man has the right to do it, because he pays them.”
terrifying
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/10/us-ukraine-crisis-defence-idUSKBN0H51CJ20140910
Quote[Putin] said Russia must ensure it develops high-precision weapons in the next few years, although he also said, "Someone might want to start a new arms race. We are not going to take part in that, of course."
QuoteRussia is slated to spend over 20 trillion rubles ($536.81 billion) on the modernization of its army, which still largely relies on Soviet-era weapons and arms technologies.
...
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/poll-most-europeans-think-eu-should-offer-ukraine-membership.story (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/sns-rt-us-ukraine-crisis-poll-20140910,0,2546841.story)
QuoteA major annual survey of public opinion in the United States, Russia and Europe found that 52 percent of Europeans believed the EU should offer membership to Ukraine, while 43 percent of respondents were opposed.
That's kind of surprisingly high. befuddlement
especially now that ukraine is the least eu-ready it has been in the last decade
QuoteSixty-eight percent of Americans surveyed backed Ukraine becoming a member of NATO but Europeans were about evenly split with 46 percent saying Ukraine should become a member of NATO and 47 percent saying it should not.
support for nato in ukraine is at 44% as of july, with 34% against
Quote from: Tectron on September 10, 2014, 07:16:11 PM
til """novorossiya"""' has its own official news agency
http://novorossia.today/
i feel like clicking on this would get me added to a list
i hope it's the list of getting paid by russia for propaganda
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/09/11/russia-says-air-strikes-in-syria-would-be-act-of-aggression-without-un-vote (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/09/11/uk-russia-u-s-syria-airstrikes-idUKKBN0H61BF20140911)
russia absolutely adores these kinds of situations and secretly jumps for joy every time the us engages in a behavior that may be interpreted as illegal because then it can scream 'hypocrisy what about amerikkka kosovo kosovo syria so therefore i can do what i want
!!' and deflect all criticism while bullying its neighbors into oblivion
because as we are all well aware
Quote from: Tectron on September 08, 2014, 07:50:23 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/serbia-caught-middle-ukraine-25344174
QuoteMoscow is also issuing quiet threats that it could drop its endorsement in the United Nations for Serbia's opposition to the independence of Kosovo
lmao
some friend you are, russia
russia doesn't actually give a shit about adhering to any moral code
who does
me
Quote from: YPR Classic on August 30, 2014, 08:16:00 AM
I wonder how Russia would react to Ukraine building a border wall. Probably as an act of war, but on the other hand, Russians love walls
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/ukraine-starts-building-defensive-wall-along-border-with-russia/506828.html
lol
a pitifully futile effort on ukraine's part, but how sad that it has come to this
Mr Poroshenko, erect this wall!
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101994880/ukraine-vows-return-to-union-with-crimea
(http://www.cnbc.com/id/101994880)
and just how does he plan on accomplishing this, i wonder
QuoteThe annexation of Crimea [...] will be reversed not by military force, but by an "economic and democratic petition" Poroshenko declared.
lol
what's even funnier about this
Quote"We have a significant problem. They said we lost the Crimea. No, we had an invasion in Crimea - but Crimea will be back together with us," he said, speaking at the 11th Yalta European Strategy (YES) conference in Kiev.
this year they were forced to hold pro-eu the yalta european conference in kiev because yalta is in crimea goowan
Quote"I am proud to be Ukrainian. I feel myself a full member of the European Union family," [Poroshenko] said.
lol oh my god
this article is a barrel of laughs
most europeans didn't even know what or where """the""" ukraine was until a few months ago
Quote from: Tectron on September 08, 2014, 07:50:23 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/serbia-caught-middle-ukraine-25344174
QuoteMoscow is also issuing quiet threats that it could drop its endorsement in the United Nations for Serbia's opposition to the independence of Kosovo
lmao
some friend you are, russia
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?kosovo-to-introduce-sanctions-against-russia (http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2014&mm=09&dd=12&nav_id=91589)
0wned
[spoiler]
although now serbia will make a point not to introduce sanctions out of spite rofl[/spoiler]
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/russian-authorities-raid-ikea-office (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/669df59e-3aa1-11e4-a3f3-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3DAlLLiAO)
Quote from: Tectron on September 12, 2014, 11:02:10 PM
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/russian-authorities-raid-ikea-office (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/669df59e-3aa1-11e4-a3f3-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3DAlLLiAO)
rt.com/news/authorities-actually-in-rush-to-buy-late-back-to-college-supplies-for-children-at-ikea
Quote from: Tectron on September 12, 2014, 11:02:10 PM
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/russian-authorities-raid-ikea-office (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/669df59e-3aa1-11e4-a3f3-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3DAlLLiAO)
c/p pls
Quote from: Ryssä Sian Persereikä Runkkari on September 14, 2014, 11:01:39 AM
Quote from: Tectron on September 12, 2014, 11:02:10 PM
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/russian-authorities-raid-ikea-office (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/669df59e-3aa1-11e4-a3f3-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3DAlLLiAO)
c/p pls
[spoiler]
QuoteRussian authorities have raided an office of the Swedish furniture company Ikea just outside Moscow, hours after the European Union and US stepped up their trade sanctions against Russia.
On Friday, the furniture retailer confirmed that Russia’s Investigative Committee " its equivalent of the US FBI " had conducted a search of its premises in Khimki, to the northwest of Moscow, in connection with a legal case over land.
“Ikea Russia is co-operating with the investigative committee,” the company said, adding that the raid was on an office belonging to Ikea Mos, its shopping centre company.
However, on Friday, analysts questioned whether the timing of the move indicated a political motivation.
“The Swedish government has been one of the leading opponents of Russian policy towards Ukraine, and a supporter of sanctions,” said Timothy Ash, head of emerging markets research at Standard Bank. “I wonder if this fits into the same kind of action that other Western companies have seen in Russia [for example] with various Western fast food outlets suffering greater regulatory oversight all of a sudden.”
Ikea has had problems in Russia before. In 2010, it fired two senior executives based in the country for ignoring bribery by a subcontractor. The controversy sparked a rare public comment from Ingvar Kamprad, the company’s octogenarian founder, who admitted that Ikea had “wandered off course”.
Russia has become one of Ikea’s biggest markets and the Swedish company now operates 14 stores, with plans to open five or six more. Revenues from the country reached Rbs76.4bn ($2bn) in 2012-13 and Ikea’s Russian head said earlier this year that the group planned to invest ,2bn in its operations by 2020.
Earlier this week, Peter Agnefjäll, Ikea’s chief executive, said the company was in Russia for the “very long term” despite the impact of sanctions and the fallout over Russia’s creeping invasion of Ukraine.
Since the Ukrainian conflict began, Carl Bildt, Sweden’s foreign minister, has been one of the most vocal European critics of Russia’s actions. However, on Friday, he declined to comment on the raid on Ikea.
Russian media outlets suggested that it was in connection with a land dispute dating back to the construction of Ikea’s Khimki store in 2007. A group of collective farmers had challenged Ikea’s right to the land used but, in the most recent round of arbitration, a Moscow court sided with Ikea.
[/spoiler]
http://news.yahoo.com/russias-lavrov-lauds-africa-pillar-world-order-190135282.html
is this guy seriously bragging about a relationship with robert mugabe
LOL
those sanctions must have hit harder than i thought:
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/140916/moscow-warns-against-panic-ruble-plunges-historic-lows
good thing putin has reliable friends like mugabe, kim jong, the castro bros. and hugo chavez's lackey to back him up
as for pathetic happenings on the ukrainian side,
http://online.wsj.com/articles/poroshenko-says-eu-agreement-to-be-ratified-next-week-1410519009
QuoteUkraine agreed Friday to delay a key part of a trade deal with Europe that the Kremlin had staunchly opposed, even as the U.S. and European Union ramped up sanctions intended to back Russia down.
Seriously? awdood;
And just like what happened last time,
http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-outrage-over-delay-eu-trade-deal-230148845.html
three oblasts and 3,000+ lives in the hole and the cycle begins anew
[spoiler]
thankfully it's only a tiny (albeit extremely significant) fraction of the agreement whose implementation was """delayed"""
Quote[...] the reciprocal lowering of Ukrainian tariffs on European goods will be delayed until the end of 2015
every other aspect of the agreement was ratified by both ukraine and the eu today, including the eu's lowering of tariffs on ukrainian goods
Quote[...] and the EU will continue its relaxed trade rules on goods coming from Ukraine, as agreed.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/16/ukraine-eu-association-agreement_n_5827958.html
so that's a plus i guess
though we all know to expect another shitfit from russia once that 16 months is up (that is, if the ukrainian government itself doesn't elect to indefinitely delay it out of fear)[/spoiler]
also til that the hryvnia is more valuable than the ruble
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/Hrkovzm.jpg)[/spoiler]
though unsurprisingly de
http://www.inquisitr.com/1475733/world-war-3-russias-nuclear-weapons-threat-has-ukraine-discussing-restoring-nukes/
might not be a terrible idea, honestly
none of this would ever have happened had ukraine retained its nukes
2bad nobody is going to allow them to develop new ones ever lol
http://www.euronews.com/2014/09/16/watch-angry-mob-in-ukraine-throw-mp-in-rubbish-bin/
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcEEiDYQue8[/youtube]
is ukraine even a real place
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29220885
say hello to the world's latest de facto independent russian puppet state, novorossiya
novorossiya gets to join the ranks of such successful bastions of human development as transnistria, south ossetia, and abkhazia
QuoteUkrainian President Petro Poroshenko stressed that the legislation giving the special status to parts of Donetsk and Luhansk regions for three-years [...]
oh joy, i can't imagine what'll happen once those three years are up
QuoteMany rebels are demanding full independence and speak of creating a new state called "Novorossiya", something Russian President Vladimir Putin has also mentioned in speeches.
honestly at this point granting it full independence and cutting all ties with it while leaving russia to sink dillions into propping it up might be for the best
not only was donbas a post-industrial rustbucket, it's now a war-torn post-industrial shithole, may as well give the """rebels""" what they want and cut the losses
[spoiler][pdf]http://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/MRW14623.pdf[/pdf][/spoiler]
QuoteSec. 4. Sanctions relating to the defense and energy sectors of the Russian
Federation.
Sec. 5. Sanctions on Russian and other foreign financial institutions.
Sec. 6. Codification of executive orders addressing the crisis in Ukraine.
Sec. 7. Major non-NATO ally status for Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova.
Sec. 8. Increased military assistance for the Government of Ukraine.
Sec. 9. Expanded nonmilitary assistance for Ukraine.
Sec. 10. Expanded broadcasting in countries of the former Soviet Union.
yessss
aaand yet another ukrainian mp getting creamed
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH-C9jtsvcM[/youtube]
Quote from: Tectron on September 17, 2014, 09:01:55 PM
aaand yet another ukrainian mp getting creamed
Young Ukrainian MP gets creamed in every hole.
Quote from: Tectron on August 31, 2014, 03:22:57 PM
Quote from: Tectron on August 28, 2014, 01:33:36 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28949582
sigh
i think i'm going to not read the news today
more of this
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/30/us-ukraine-crisis-russia-funerals-idUSKBN0GU0B020140830
and more still
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29249642?bbc-team-under-attack-in-southern-russia (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29249642?ocid=socialflow_twitter)
QuoteThey had gone to investigate reports of Russian servicemen being killed near the border with Ukraine.
The team's cameraman was beaten up and the camera smashed during the attack. The recorded material left in the car had been deleted, the team found after returning from the police station.
http://news.yahoo.com/kremlin-protect-russian-cyberspace-unpredictable-west-110619987.html
rofl the absolutely shallow word pool through which putin phrases his autocratic domestic policymaking
translation: prepare for more censorship, can't have you seeing those stories about dead soldiers now
Quote from: Tectron on September 17, 2014, 12:22:51 AM
though we all know to expect another shitfit from russia once that 16 months is up
http://www.euractiv.com/sections/europes-east/russia-demands-changes-ukraine-eu-trade-deal-308556
not even two days in and the whining has already begun
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/19/ukraine-poland-lithuania-form-joint-military-unit (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/19/us-ukraine-crisis-poland-battlegroup-idUSKBN0HE20H20140919)
yes
my god YES
russia's aggression has fostered the resurrection of the polish-lithuanian commonwealth lubdoods;
all we need is belarus now
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/third-russian-humanitarian-convoy-crosses-ukrainian-border (http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/750453)
remember the sudden explosion in vigor the """rebels""" miraculously experienced after the last two """humanitarian convoys"""
oh joy
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/25/us-russia-sanctions-law-idUSKCN0HK1EO20140925
oh god i hope this headline isn't sensationalized and this bill passes
yesss, please scare any remaining investors out of russia, putin
http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-leader-sees-end-to-war-eyes-eu-membership-by-2020.html (http://news.yahoo.com/poroshenko-says-ukraine-crisis-approaching-end-163731091.html)
Oh... oh Ukraine. awdood;
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102034687#.
QuoteEU officials have remained adamant the treaty cannot be changed despite Kremlin demands that as many as 2,400 tariff lines be modified in the pact.
QuoteBut EU diplomats said it remains highly unlikely Brussels would back off any measures next week, saying the largest European countries – particularly Germany – believe the Kremlin has not done nearly enough to warrant such a move.
wrench;
though we'll soon see once again that if russia isn't given its way, it'll force it
cindy has to read some book by robert kagan about how america is great or some shit.
i saw this and thought of tec
(http://i.imgur.com/W9xNcV9.jpg)
book was published in 2012 lol
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/28/russian-foreign-minister-lavrov-calls-for-reset-of-relations-with-us (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/28/russian-foreign-minister-sergei-lavrov-reset-relations-us)
that's right
beg mothers*cker
Quote from: Khadafi on September 28, 2014, 02:44:02 PM
cindy has to read some book by robert kagan about how america is great or some shit.
i saw this and thought of tec
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/W9xNcV9.jpg)[/spoiler]
book was published in 2012 lol
guy is on point
Quote from: Khadafi on September 28, 2014, 02:44:02 PM
cindy has to read some book by robert kagan about how america is great or some shit.
i saw this and thought of tec
(http://i.imgur.com/W9xNcV9.jpg)
book was published in 2012 lol
the only way we get world peace is if the us controls everything
http://www.forbes.com/sites/katyasoldak/2014/09/28/ukrainian-crowds-topple-lenin-statue-again/
no lenin statue is safe, it seems
and to further reiterate that russia singlehandedly manufactured the separatist movement, this is in the easternmost, most russian-speaking region of ukraine aside from those which have already been lost
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkfzc5ijNtU[/youtube]
Quote from: David on September 28, 2014, 09:15:33 PM
Quote from: Khadafi on September 28, 2014, 02:44:02 PM
cindy has to read some book by robert kagan about how america is great or some shit.
i saw this and thought of tec
book was published in 2012 lol
the only way we get world peace is if the us controls everything
essentially that's what the guy thinks.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/ruble-sinks-to-historic-low-against-currency-basket/507985.html
Keep begging, Lavrov. :3
http://news.yahoo.com/putin-seeks-calm-investors-wont-revisit-privatisations-113316348.html
QuotePutin spoke at an investor forum after Russia's economy minister said a combination of high inflation and low growth was "explosive" and the head of the country's largest bank warned Russia could repeat the fate of the Soviet Union.
this would be a dream come true
QuoteSpeaking at the annual "Russia Calling" investment forum, Putin jokingly suggested that investors should simply watch his facial expressions to gauge the state of the economy and government policies.
"jokingly"
he probably actually is making deliberate attempts to appear as calm in the face of danger as humanly possible so as to not shake confidence in the economy any further
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/dollar-passes-40-ruble-mark-as-currency-tumble-continues/508444.html
Finally. happydood;
here's hoping for 50
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/bulgaria-to-ground-russian-made-jets-to-assert-independence-from-moscow.html (http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/508531.html)
i'm so proud
first they kill the south stream project, now this wrench;
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-10-07/russia-spent-980-million-in-biggest-intervention-since-march
QuoteRussia’s central bank spent as much as $1.75 billion to prop up the ruble over the last two trading days, its biggest market intervention since President Vladimir Putin’s incursion into Ukraine in March.
happydood; happydood;
http://news.yahoo.com/armenia-signs-moscow-led-economic-union-184811733.html
and the gradual reconstitution of the russian empire continues
goodbye armenia, we hardly knew thee
poor georgia is now sandwiched between russia and a de facto russian exclave lol
on the maybe-plus side, this probably means that azerbaijan won't ever join the reunion, but who the heck is azerbaijan anyway
also, more surprises from belarus
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/oct/10/belarus-police-ukraine-fans-arrested-putin-songs
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russia-to-import-crocodile-meat-to-replace-sanctioned-pork-beef/509165.html
that's kinda ne@
Quote from: Tectron on October 10, 2014, 09:15:39 PM
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russia-to-import-crocodile-meat-to-replace-sanctioned-pork-beef/509165.html
that's kinda ne@
it's a shame the usa would never be clever enough to do that
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/chinese-lenders-grow-wary-of-russia.html (http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/4e3ec352-51f8-11e4-b55e-00144feab7de.html#axzz3FzUitQ1I)
[spoiler]
QuoteWhen Chinese premier Li Keqiang and his Russian counterpart Dmitry Medvedev start talks on Monday that are expected to culminate in the signing of more than 50 deals, it will be the latest demonstration of hopes that China is riding to the rescue as US and EU sanctions block new western funding for Russian banks and corporates.
But despite a steady flow of handshakes and signatures, Chinese money has been hard to secure. According to numerous executives and bankers, Chinese banks and investors are dragging their heels in Russia, unwilling to risk antagonising the west by providing the surge of funding that Moscow desperately needs.
“If you expect us to rush in and do everything the European and American banks can’t do any more, you will be disappointed,” said an official at Bank of China in Moscow. “We want to develop our Russia business, but we have to consider the risks as well.”
A western executive in the energy industry said: “There is strong anxiety on the Russian side: the Chinese are very reluctant to give them money at the moment.”
That appears to apply even to the $400bn gas supply deal struck between Gazprom and CNPC in May in what was seen as a triumph for Russian president Vladimir Putin. A $25bn prepayment that Gazprom said was part of the deal has yet to be paid and Alexander Medvedev, deputy chief executive of Gazprom, said recently the question of the payment was still “hanging in the air”.
The Bank of China official said that as China’s big banks had strategic interests elsewhere, they could not afford to be seen to help Russia circumvent US and EU sanctions.
A Chinese lawyer working with Russian companies said he had come across two cases since July where a Chinese bank bowed out of loan talks with Russian clients citing a government policy not to upset Washington.
The caution is clearly reflected in the lending figures. As of the beginning of September, Industrial and Commercial Bank of China had a corporate loan portfolio of just Rbs3.35bn ($83m) in Russia. Bank of China’s loans to Russian corporates amounted to Rbs2.15bn, while China Construction Bank had Rbs1.3bn of loans outstanding to Russian companies.
The numbers pale in comparison to the $134bn in external debt that Russian banks and corporates have to repay by the end of 2015, largely to US and European banks.
Russian companies also acknowledge the difficulties. “I believe that we will eventually see an increase in activity from Chinese banks, but this requires time for them to become more familiar with Russia,” said an executive at VTB, Russia’s second-largest bank that is subject to US and EU sanctions.
Bernard Sucher, a long-time investor in Russia and former head of Bank of America Merrill Lynch in Moscow, says one company he advises sent a team to China soon after the first round of sanctions were announced earlier this year to court investment.
“It was tough to get meetings,” he said. “They seem both afraid of the potential political risk and not especially impressed with the value of the new business they might earn from Russia.”
Russian companies are also facing problems in trade financing and cash management, an area where they recently turned to Chinese banks for help.
There are signs that China’s central bank is monitoring transfers to and from Russian entities to make sure the transfers do not involve sanctioned companies or oligarchs. Russian news agencies reported last month that some Chinese commercial banks were refusing to transfer the money of Russian clients through offshore accounts.
“The speed of (fund transfer) settlement to and from Russia and other sensitive countries may be influenced because these countries may be subject to sanctions from the United States and other countries,” said a representative working at Ping An Bank’s customer services centre recently.
[/spoiler]
haha
wow
how's that pivot to china workin' out for you, vlad
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/16/us-ukraine-crisis-russia-poll-idUSKCN0I516O20141016
huhdoodame;
the sheer desperation underneath that paper-thin facade of hope that these polling results express, oh my
Quote from: Tectron on October 16, 2014, 08:14:26 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/16/us-ukraine-crisis-russia-poll-idUSKCN0I516O20141016
huhdoodame;
the sheer desperation underneath that paper-thin facade of hope that these polling results express, oh my
christ, americans claim to love their country, but if obama were to get us into this situation we'd all just whine like a bunch of babies and complain about how we can't do anything ourselves :(
http://eng.kremlin.ru/news/23110
The two leaders continued to express serious differences in views on the source of Ukraine’s domestic conflict, as well as root causes for what is happening there today.
you don't say
and even more surprises from belarus
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/lukashenko-investing-in-belarus-twice-as-effective-as-investing-in-russia/509678.html
Quote from: LukashenkoBelarussian sausage doesn't contain toilet paper and soy " unlike Russian sausage.
oh my god lol
[youtube]frhQMuyH0lg[/youtube]
tec's current theme song
http://www.belaruspartisan.org/economic/282936/
This doesn't bode well for the burgeoning Belarusian seafood industry.
http://www.euractiv.com/sections/global-europe/after-food-ban-russia-markets-shrimp-belarus-307858
saddood;
Quote from: David on October 18, 2014, 10:23:43 PM
[spoiler][youtube]frhQMuyH0lg[/youtube][/spoiler]
tec's current theme song
жыве беларусь
!!
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-19/russia-rating-cut-by-moody-s-on-sluggish-economic-growth.html?
solution:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/06/03/russia-china-to-create-joint-rating-agency (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/06/03/russia-china-ratings-idUKL6N0OK1HS20140603)
http://www.tnnegypt.com/world/sweden-searches-territorial-waters-suspected-russian-submarine/
by "swedish territorial waters" i thought they meant somewhere dozens of miles off the coast in the exclusive economic zone
https://www.google.se/maps/place/Kanholmsfj%C3%A4rden/@59.5768594,19.0313739,590772m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x46f5708488b7ab0d:0xb71e517625b40c61
that's inside of sweden lol goowan
Quote from: Tectron on October 19, 2014, 01:13:29 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-19/russia-rating-cut-by-moody-s-on-sluggish-economic-growth.html?
solution:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/06/03/russia-china-to-create-joint-rating-agency (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/06/03/russia-china-ratings-idUKL6N0OK1HS20140603)
ugh absolutely pathetic lol
how much do you want to bet ukraine gets a d? sillydood;
tbh, ukraine fully deserves a d lol sillydood;
more belarusian bombshells
http://eng.belta.by/all_news/president/Lukashenko-Belarus-is-against-the-destruction-of-the-Ukrainian-state_i_76220.html
http://qha.com.ua/russia-should-return-its-land-to-kazakhstan-and-mongolia-lukashenko-132404en.html
Quote from: LukashenkoMost of today’s Russian lands belonged to Kazkhstan and Mongolia since the age old times of Khan Batey. Therefore now this land must be returned to its historical roots. This is the logical outcome of Russia’s arguments for its annexation of Crimea.
Quote from: Tectron on September 08, 2014, 07:50:23 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/serbia-caught-middle-ukraine-25344174
QuoteMoscow is also issuing quiet threats that it could drop its endorsement in the United Nations for Serbia's opposition to the independence of Kosovo
lmao
some friend you are, russia
http://inserbia.info/today/2014/10/putin-angry-russia-reduces-gas-supplies-to-serbia/
i lol'd goowan
yes, putin, please continue doing whatever it takes to antagonize the very last of your """allies"""
Quote from: Tectron on November 01, 2014, 10:49:47 AM
Quote from: Tectron on September 08, 2014, 07:50:23 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/serbia-caught-middle-ukraine-25344174
QuoteMoscow is also issuing quiet threats that it could drop its endorsement in the United Nations for Serbia's opposition to the independence of Kosovo
lmao
some friend you are, russia
http://inserbia.info/today/2014/10/putin-angry-russia-reduces-gas-supplies-to-serbia/
i lol'd goowan
yes, putin, please continue doing whatever it takes to antagonize the very last of your """allies"""
"october" revolution part deux when?
thoughts on situation - Ukrainian invents sampling ? is this related
http://www.baltictimes.com/news/articles/35003/russia-offered-baltics-cheaper-gas-for-nato-exit (http://www.baltictimes.com/news/articles/35003/#.VFhKVmLF9rY)
lol
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102155462
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDRUB:CUR
holy shit
i would have been happy enough to see it fall to 45/usd by the end of this week
now hoping for 50/usd before the month's end :3
Quote from: Tectron on November 05, 2014, 04:19:55 PM
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102155462
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDRUB:CUR
holy shit
i would have been happy enough to see it fall to 45/usd by the end of this week
now hoping for 50/usd before the month's end :3
oh god rofl
(http://i.imgur.com/5JK3p2B.png) (http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDRUB:CUR)
oh my goodness gracious lol
this is the beginning of what i'm hoping will be an exponential trend
50/usd by next week !! :3
Quote from: Tectron on November 06, 2014, 04:49:25 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/5JK3p2B.png) (http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDRUB:CUR)
oh my goodness gracious lol
this is the beginning of what i'm hoping will be an exponential trend
50/usd by next week !! :3
will hyperinflation be coming to russia soon? giggle;
http://abcnews.go.com/international/wirestory/russia-free-float-ruble-markets-26802722
tec's gleeful predictions might look conservative now n_u
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-17/ukraine-ready-for-total-war-with--russia-poroshenko-says/5895570
Please don't say things like this. awdood;
rt.com/2014/ukraine-far-right-calls-for-total-war
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2014/11/16/fun-number-apple-is-now-worth-more-than-the-entire-russian-stock-market/
:)
[spoiler]
and i thought this was pathetic
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/29/business/la-fi-apple-cash-20110730[/spoiler]
Quote from: Tectron on November 17, 2014, 02:26:17 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2014/11/16/fun-number-apple-is-now-worth-more-than-the-entire-russian-stock-market/
:)
[spoiler]
and i thought this was pathetic
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/29/business/la-fi-apple-cash-20110730[/spoiler]
if obummer were such a socialiste why hasn't he prviatised apple and taken all of its moneys??
i havent really read the thread, but there is any photographic evidence that a russka is in the Ukraine for reasons of CONQUERING ? please respond
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/politics/ukrainian-coalition-plans-to-cancel-non-aligned-status-seek-nato-membership-agreement-372707.html
this is terrifying news
oh how i wish ukraine could be shotgunned into nato before russia had any chance to retaliate, but it'll never happen and announcements like these will only serve to further enrage the kremlings
Quote from: fuchsmanguste on November 18, 2014, 05:34:13 PM
i havent really read the thread, but there is any photographic evidence that a russka is in the Ukraine for reasons of CONQUERING ? please respond
Yes, several types of weapons that have only been produced and entered service with the Russian Federation in the last several years have appeared on the front in Donbas. These types have not been exported to third parties nor were they in the possession of Ukraine before the war. Furthermore, several funeral service vans (Cargo 200) have been spotted by OSEC no less, crossing back and forth from Russia and Ukraine in the Rostov region, through territory and crossing points controlled by the so called separatists.
http://www.theweek.co.uk/europe/61498/russia-funds-french-national-front-is-moscow-sowing-european-unrest
what a non-surprise
I was shocked to see that RT has apparently paid its way into public broadcasting into the U.S.! I have to pay to get CCN on television, but RT has a slot in public broadcasting! With Western and independent media virtually nonexistent in Russia, and multiple Russian news channels and organizations opening up in Germany and other European countries, it is not hard to see what the KGB colonel is up to. An information propaganda war. Simply fooling the Russian people is not enough, opinion must be swayed in Europe and abroad, and public and political discourse manipulated, channeled and influenced in favor of Russia. Look at how many Russian sympathizers infest all levels of German, French, Italian and British politics and business. These people only care about money and power, and would sell their own mother for a few more bucks or private orgies at presidential palaces.
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDRUB:CUR
oh my goodness
now at 49/usd
hoping for 50 by monday happydood;
I laughed when same people said a falling ruble means more money for Russian budget when converted from state dollars. Maybe immediately, but there is a thing called inflation and purchasing power. So unless wages increase to keep up with prices, more rubles for dollars means nothing, other than bread lines and 100 ruble sandwiches.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/russia-asks-eu-to-lift-sanctions-2014-11
Keep begging. :3
http://www.bbc.com/news/business/rouble-suffers-biggest-one-day-fall-since-1998 (http://www.bbc.com/news/business-30276353)
It actually went beyond 50/USD to 51.5. :3
keep dropping those oil prices, saudi arabia
in other news,
http://online.wsj.com/articles/putin-says-russia-will-abandon-south-stream-pipeline-1417461666
i'm suspicious
erdoganistan is nato's weakest link, and for this news to come after a meeting between it and putin has me worried about what they might have up their sleeves
i would be so happy to boot erdogan's turkey from nato if only it weren't for the fact that it would immediately fall wholly into russia's orbit awdood;
I can help explain. The whole South Stream was a way to bypass Ukraine and make a play for Europe and especially the Balkans. But this proved impossible, so now Turkey, which already has pipelines plans for Europe wants to team up with Russia. 1 because Russia needs to sell gas, and 2 because Turkey and the sultan have Ottoman ambitions and both sides want to make a push for the Balkans arguably the EUs/NATOs weakest link in Europe. For some years now the Turks and Qataris have been pumping money into the Balkans funding so called "cultural" projects to gain influence through their supposedly Muslim brethren living there now. A remnant of forced conversions during the Ottoman days, I am quite familiar with this plan. I have seen their brand of Islam (see extremism) making some headway into the Balkans, from the long beards to tunics, etc... all a way to increase influence into the region. Russia seeks to join up on this plan for their own ambitions and reasons. See the Serbia angle of it too.
i find it bemusing that russia seems not only undisturbed by turkey's fostering of islamic extremism in europe, but actually actively encouraging it by partnering with its dickbag leader, especially since russia itself still struggles with the very same type of extremism domestically and this could very easily exacerbate issues in the caucuses
but anything that divides and weakens europe and nato relative to russia is beneficial to the kremlin i suppose
anyway, the rubble's down to 54/usd today lol dittodood;
at this rate, i wonder if we could see it fall to 60 before the end of the year
also, speaking of serbia
http://inserbia.info/today/2014/12/serbia-57-percent-of-citizens-in-favor-of-eu-membership-poll/
lol
soon we'll see the sudden materialization of some """pro-russians""" in vojvodina
Apparently the joke in Moscow is that Putin, Oil and the Ruble are all headed for 60. At least the Russians have humor. But their defiant reaction can't last years of them wearing the same clothes and eating the same thing everyday, working paycheck to paycheck and never leaving their town or city. Soon their cars, computers, and houses will be as outdated as they were in the communist days. All thanks to Putin.
Also, Turkey and Russia have no chance in the Balkans unless their engineer some trouble or find very corrupt people to strong arm. Both actors are thoroughly known and hated in the region, especially when they show ulterior motives. The people of the region are firmly looking and hoping toward the EU and NATO, to live in peace, freedom and prosperity. It is inevitable.
Quote from: Tectron on December 02, 2014, 04:12:35 PM
i find it bemusing that russia seems not only undisturbed by turkey's fostering of islamic extremism in europe, but actually actively encouraging it by partnering with its dickbag leader, especially since russia itself still struggles with the very same type of extremism domestically and this could very easily exacerbate issues in the caucuses
well whaddaya know
http://www.news.com.au/world/russian-military-on-alert-in-moscow-grozny-amid-new-crisis/story-fndir2ev-1227144589099
Quote from: Socks on December 03, 2014, 02:21:03 AM
Apparently the joke in Moscow is that Putin, Oil and the Ruble are all headed for 60. At least the Russians have humor. But their defiant reaction can't last years of them wearing the same clothes and eating the same thing everyday, working paycheck to paycheck and never leaving their town or city. Soon their cars, computers, and houses will be as outdated as they were in the communist days. All thanks to Putin.
speaking of jokes
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/putin-signs-russian-budget-for-next-year-based-on-100-oil-price/512521.html
and last but most certainly not least, belarus defies expectations by openly criticizing the kremlin once again
http://itar-tass.com/en/economy/764854
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/belarus-demands-cancellation-of-indecent-russian-import-restrictions/512546.html
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/512303.html
QuoteThe Prosecutor General's Office is looking into the Central Bank's operations after a ruling party lawmaker accused it being an "enemy of the country" by supposedly driving down the ruble and plotting "evil" against Russia.
Quote"The Central Bank is an institutional enemy of the country," Fyodorov told Russian News Service radio on Monday. "Its bosses are officially abroad. I am assuming that it will do the maximum evil. The Central Bank will do everything to have the ruble rate fall."
delicious infighting :3
now time for Russka to start, the total war.
Quote from: fuchsmanguste on December 04, 2014, 01:37:29 PM
now time for Russka to start, the total war.
According to Supreme Allied Commander Gen. Phil Breedlove of NATO, the Alliance continues to monitor and asses the possibility of the Russian Federation moving tactical or strategic nuclear warheads for deployment into Crimea. The Russian Armed Forces have nearly completed their survey and repossession of former Ukrainian military installations and sites in Crimea, a big part of which consisted of airbases, radar sets and ships. Accordingly, the fascist Russian Federation has deployed significant numbers of tactical aircraft and air defense systems into Crimea. Next will proceed the consolidation, upgrade and addition of more ships, importantly new diesel submarines, to the Black Sea Fleet. I suspect there will be Iskander and anti ship missile batteries in operation soon as well. This is in addition to the over 25,000 ground troops that Russia has in the peninsula.
As you can see, Crimea will be in fascist hands for quite some time to come. The occasional patrol of one or two NATO ships in the Black Sea will not do much to deter Putin. The deployment of an ashore AEGIS anti missile field in Romania on the other hand, has to be of concern to him. NATO fighter jets and airborne surveillance and command aircraft in Romania, Poland and Turkey will deter very open acts of aggression toward his neighbors, such as but not limited to ballistic missile strikes, airstrikes, cruise missile strikes and very powerful artillery. The best we can hope for is some sort of bullish stalemate, the worst, well, the worst will see defense companies responsible for the liquidation of vast quantities of people daily.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russia-cozies-up-to-uzbekistan-with-865-million-debt-write-off/513096.html
you're stronger than putin's dirty money, uzbekistan smithicide;
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDRUB:CUR
my christman wish: >60,/USD happydood;
Quote from: Tectron on December 12, 2014, 10:15:10 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDRUB:CUR
my christman wish: >60,/USD happydood;
60(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/8/8c/Pok%C3%A9monDollar.png)
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/us-congress-passes-russia/1528284.html
we are now officially engaged in a good old-fashioned cold war proxy war
http://rt.com/politics/213807-american-weaponry-russia-troops-ukraine/
Quote from: Tectron on December 12, 2014, 10:15:10 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDRUB:CUR
my christman wish: >60,/USD happydood;
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDRUB:CUR
Looks like Christman came a little early this year. goowan
rofl a 10% gain over the ruble in a single day, jesus christ
and oil is trading just below $60/barrel as of a few days ago
only thing left to hit 63 now is putin himself happydood;
the ruble's value has now officially halved since this time last year
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/ruble-crashes-to-worlds-worst-performing-currency/513309.html (http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russian-ruble-hits-60-to-the-u-s-dollar-as-currency-collapse-continues/513309.html)
QuoteThe Russian currency has now fallen 49.3 percent against the greenback since January, according to data from the Moscow Exchange. The drop takes it below the Ukrainian hryvna, which has weakened 47.9 percent in 2014.
lol the irony
http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-temporarily-shutters-russian-online-sales-on-currency-issues/
lmao
(http://i.imgur.com/CWUtvq1.png)
why are we cheering for hyperinflation of Russia's currency again
Russia will be forced to adopt the greenback, then cultural enrichment can proceed
[spoiler=entire russian stock market now worth less than google](http://i.imgur.com/d54fYVJ.jpg)[/spoiler]
in other news,
http://www.businessinsider.in/Putin-Wins-Russias-Man-Of-The-Year-For-The-15th-Time-In-A-Row/articleshow/45537674.cms
http://rt.com/politics/214815-kaluga-governor-crisis-ban/?
QuoteAuthorities in the Central Russia’s Kaluga Region have banned the use of the word ‘crisis’ in public and the measure is already helping to attract investors, according to the local governor.
“It is possible that the crisis exists, but we forbid the use of this word,” the Russian News Service (RSN) radio quoted Anatoly Artamonov as saying on Tuesday.
i can't wait for the return of communism
http://sputniknews.com/russia/20141205/Putin-Orders-Cut-Budget-Expenditures-by-5-Percent.html (http://sputniknews.com/russia/20141205/1015542486.html)
QuoteThe cuts will not affect “expenditures for national defense and national security,” the presidential decree reads.
lol
everything at the cost of keeping the military afloat, in the style of a certain democratic people's republic
https://twitter.com/GennadySimanovs/status/545087585719029761
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/whkmNNN.jpg)[/spoiler]
russians apparently lining up to get rid of the ruble in exchange for goods with stable values in the aftermath of yesterday's nosedive
if true, this is pretty much a form of bank run
Quote from: Tectron on December 17, 2014, 02:27:20 AM
http://sputniknews.com/russia/20141205/Putin-Orders-Cut-Budget-Expenditures-by-5-Percent.html (http://sputniknews.com/russia/20141205/1015542486.html)
QuoteThe cuts will not affect “expenditures for national defense and national security,” the presidential decree reads.
lol
everything at the cost of keeping the military afloat, in the style of a certain democratic people's republic
and speaking of which,
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/17/russia-invites-north-korea-leader-for-visit-idUSKBN0JV09E20141217 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/17/us-northkorea-russia-idUSKBN0JV09E20141217)
lol
belarus is amazing
http://itar-tass.com/en/russia/765744
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/eurasian-union-s-future-murky-as-belarus-tensions-simmer/513174.html
lukashenko is singlehandedly bringing down the eurasian union
>mfw russia's bff cuba is now improving relations with the US.
>mfw russia needs to be friends with north korea now (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/17/us-northkorea-russia-idUSKBN0JV09E20141217)
russia is even losing grip over its closest bff
Quote from: Tectron on December 17, 2014, 12:49:58 PM
belarus is amazing
http://itar-tass.com/en/russia/765744
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/eurasian-union-s-future-murky-as-belarus-tensions-simmer/513174.html
lukashenko is singlehandedly bringing down the eurasian union
http://www.mk.ru/economics/2014/12/16/lukashenko-perestanet-molitsya-na-rossiyu-i-nachnet-torgovat-s-ssha.html
headline translates to "Lukashenko will cease to "pray for Russia" and begin to trade with the US"
http://www.rferl.org/content/belarusian-president-orders-trade-with-russia-only-in-euros-us-ollars/26750288.html (http://www.rferl.org/content/belarus-russia-trade-ruble-currency-economy/26750288.html)
oh my god lmao
Quote from: Tectron on December 18, 2014, 06:45:34 PM
http://www.rferl.org/content/belarusian-president-orders-trade-with-russia-only-in-euros-us-ollars/26750288.html (http://www.rferl.org/content/belarus-russia-trade-ruble-currency-economy/26750288.html)
oh my god lmao
and just to make this even more hilariously ironic, here's a headline from two weeks ago:
http://en.tengrinews.kz/politics_sub/Russian-official-says-dollar-euro-could-be-banned-in-Eurasian-Union-Kazakh-257751/
lmao
but m-muh petrodollars !!
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/12/18/statement-president-ukraine-freedom-support-act
Progress... except they did ultimately remove the provision that would have made Ukraine a major non-NATO ally (along with Georgia and Moldova). awdood;
in other news,
http://www.dw.de/russia-sanctions-to-stay-merkel-says-ahead-of-eu-summit/a-18138454
til angela merkel does have a spine, even if it's only made of cartilage
eurasian union members once again subverting moscow's rule
http://news.yahoo.com/crisis-hit-russias-top-allies-build-ties-ukraine-003145285.html
http://www.timesca.com/news/14786-kazakhstan-to-supply-coal-to-ukraine
it may be time to liberate the russian minority in north kazland
the "eurasian" """economic""" "union" was inaugurated today, not quite dead on arrival but very much on life support
here's hoping it'll be all but dead by this time next year
Once the Donbas is its own country, EEU will be at full health
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB123317069332125243
Quote from: putinFrankly speaking, we all know that provoking military and political instability, regional and other conflicts is a helpful means of distracting the public from growing social and economic problems. Such attempts cannot be ruled out, unfortunately.
lol
yesterday, the """separatists""" launched a renewed offensive against mariupol, a(nother) city in which there was previously no significant separatist or pro-russian sentiment
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/24/ukraine-crisis-dozens-die-rebels-shell-mariupol
i sure am glad the """separatist""" idiots from transnistria were beaten back in odessa before it turned into another donetsk
http://www.wesh.com/national-news/obama-on-russia-large-countries-dont-bully/30910662
Quote from: obamaWe have a profound interest, as I believe every country does, in promoting a core principle, which is: Large countries don't bully smaller countries.
lol
how utterly meaningless is a comment like this coming from an american politician, honestly
Quote from: Tectron on January 25, 2015, 06:47:29 PM
http://www.wesh.com/national-news/obama-on-russia-large-countries-dont-bully/30910662
Quote from: obamaWe have a profound interest, as I believe every country does, in promoting a core principle, which is: Large countries don't bully smaller countries.
lol
how utterly meaningless is a comment like this coming from an american politician, honestly
especially one who perfected the doctrine on our usage of drones to police the middle east lol
i'm still over the moon at seeing Saakasvili the tie eating bear pokster being governor of Odessa region. steam must have come out of Putin's ears, and his ass.
oh, and the Peskov guy, the mustachioed spokesman is a funny funny guy. apparently he's trained his newly wed wife to be just as good a liar as him.
the ukrainian armed forces are unstoppable and putin's russia is in flames
https://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/298703/Ukraine_strikes_airfield_in_Russias_Millerovo
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-military-base-blown-ukraine-fights-back-1682558
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10550799/Ukraine-hits-airfield-Russia-missile-strike-blow-Putin-downing-six-helicopters.html
(https://i.imgur.com/hPzAxHk.jpg)
all the while ukraine just keeps growing in power and coolness xiapproves;
Judging by headlines, Kiev will probably fall next week.
Happy To Be Wrong and mislead
dang, topical
Quote from: silvertone on February 26, 2022, 04:32:22 AMJudging by headlines, Kiev will probably fall next week.
kyiv*
spelling it kyiv is some 1984 shit. never saw it spelled that way til this war
ummm it's spelled Кив
ukranians say tak. russians say da
why can't we all get along :(
money
warm water ports
Quote from: silvertone on April 04, 2022, 02:31:27 PMspelling it kyiv is some 1984 shit. never saw it spelled that way til this war
honestly as ukraine's biggest shill i 100% agree with you
and also AHAHAHAH fuck; PUTIN
putin's idiocy has
galvanized support for nato throughout europe, including in historically """neutral""" finnistan and sw*den
he has singlehandedly reinvigorated the german milkitary
he has singlehandedly redeemed the shameful reputation of american intelligence (TRULY a miraculous feat. goonish)
he has dramatically increased demand for american arms and fossil fuels
he has DESTROYED the last 20 years of russian economic gains
he is ACTIUVELY FORGING a heroic and inspirational national origin story and a distinct national identity in ukraine that will be celebrated worldwide for generations long after his delusional arse is gone and russia has decayed into dust
he is demonstrating to the rest of the post-commies why you damn well best be in nato and the eu
his own dilapidated shithole of a country is UTTERLY DEFENSELESS in the face of ukraine's unstoppable resolve
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millerovo_air_base_attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Belgorod
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_2022_Belgorod_and_Bryansk_attacks
HE'S PROVEN HIS MUCH-VAUNTED MILITARY IS ACTUALLY SUCH A DECREPIT PIECE OF SHIT THAT HIS TANKS ARE BEING TOWED AWAY BY FEARLESS UKRAINIAN FARMERS IN TRACTORS AHAHAHAH
He alone has advanced America's foreign policy aims so rapidly and so comprehensively that it's enough to make one wonder whether he's secretly the greatest CIA agent the world has ever seen. Has he really just completely lost his mind? befuddlement
I don't blame Ukraine for changing the pronunciation/spelling of Kyiv to match the Ukrainian pronunciation more than the Russian.
It's mildly annoying to us but I can't hold it against them for wanting to further separate themselves from being perceived as a Russian satellite state
yeah, it feels unnatural to me personally as someone who's known ukraine intimately since waaay before they started insisting on ukrainian language spellings for its regions, but i completely get why they're distinguishing themselves from russia in any way possible
still, to me it will always be kiev (pronounced "keev"), "chornobyl" just looks and sounds so odd compared to chernobyl, etc. putindisapproves;
i'm also much more familiar with the russian language and know practically nothing about ukrainian except through russian, so i'm definitely a little biased lol
as a frenchoid it's always been kee-ev to me lol
Quote from: YPrrrr on April 29, 2022, 10:47:47 AMI don't blame Ukraine for changing the pronunciation/spelling of Kyiv to match the Ukrainian pronunciation more than the Russian.
It's mildly annoying to us but I can't hold it against them for wanting to further separate themselves from being perceived as a Russian satellite state
ukraine can call it whatever they want. im not ukranian though.
pretty much the two key tenets of 21st century russia's national identity are its faith in its military supremacy, and its faith in its superiority over ukraine
russians willingly looked the other way for over 20 years as putin plundered and pillaged their nation so long as they could trust him to, at the very least, maintain those two central pillars of russian identity
So Ukraine's spectacular shattering of both of those illusions
( С Л А В А У К Р А Ї Н І (https://i.imgur.com/IUtvUyt.png) )
has also destroyed any and all remaining confidence Russia had in Putin. The Russian people now have
nothing. befuddlement
and with their nation in tatters and absolutely nothing left to lose, they have finally begun to openly turn on him
I cannot rest until Russia is fully dissolved. It's the only way to get Ukraine's stolen children back. At long last Russia's implosion is imminent, and its demise is now being accelerated by the Russians themselves. happydood;
link?
Putin just gets dumber and dumber. Wow. befuddlement
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on September 25, 2022, 03:21:48 AMPutin just gets dumber and dumber. Wow. befuddlement
It's like he looked at all the dumb decisions Hitler made and said, 'Bet'.
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-accuses-us-of-profiting-from-war/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/vladimir-putin-war-europe-ukraine-gas-inflation-reduction-act-ira-joe-biden-rift-west-eu-accuses-us-of-profiting-from-war/)
>says the wannabe """continent""" that's COMPLETELY dependent on r*ssian oil
and *MERICAN defenseL O L
O
LQuoteaccuse the Americans of making a fortune from the war
only a completely irrelevant sanctimonious contrarian eu ghoul could
possibly believe this is a bad thing lol
https://media.zenfs.com/en/ap.org/475ad80e2283651fe3f8b2d7d7de9a13
putin is a putindisapproves; ickhead
https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-west-must-recognize-its-vast-claims-over-ukraine-before-talks-2022-12
LOL
(https://i.imgur.com/R2PTr6I.gif)
https://www.newsweek.com/europe-russia-ukraine-war-america-finland-sanna-marin-1764138
Quote from: Sanna MarinI must be brutally honest with you, Europe isn't strong enough right now. We would be in trouble without the United States.
BASED Mommy Marin: the only intelligent European politician. happydood;
Quote from: Majorana's Incantation on December 02, 2022, 07:40:11 PMhttps://www.newsweek.com/europe-russia-ukraine-war-america-finland-sanna-marin-1764138
Quote from: Sanna MarinI must be brutally honest with you, Europe isn't strong enough right now. We would be in trouble without the United States.
BASED Mommy Marin: the only intelligent European politician. happydood;
Meanwhile you have the German leftists in tears wishing the US away from Europe lol
it's hilarious because "g*rman" """le*tist""" has to be the greatest oxy-moron of all time lol
Are you calling Karl Marx a moron >:(
Quote from: YPrrrr on December 04, 2022, 11:41:18 AMAre you calling Karl Marx a moron >:(
ifeelbetter;
https://boyah.net/forums2/index.php/topic,75522.msg1601023.html#msg1601023https://boyah.net/forums2/index.php/topic,75522.msg1601023.html#msg1601023https://boyah.net/forums2/index.php/topic,75522.msg1601023.html#msg1601023
but actually no i didn't have marxxx in mind at all there lol
[spoiler]
Now that you mention it, though, he is the single worst thing ever to happen to s*cialism. srsly
[/spoiler]
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/india-continue-buying-russian-oil-ministry-source-says-2022-12-02/
i can't help but be (more than) a little offended by all the screaming and whining and sh@ting on india for continuing to buy r*ssian oil
1. india, as a poor wretched developing nation that even in the best of times is only barely scraping by, would be CRAZY not to get oil at the lowest price it possibly can
2. """europe""" (g ugly; rmany, especially) is fully complicit in funding putin's misadventures, to the tune of trillions, by making itself COMPLETELY dependent on russian oil (despite being repeatedly advised against that)
3. India sh@s on itself enough as is. srs
4. Finally, Eur*pe is still buying Russian oil by the tanker as well. psyduck;
The unabashed hypocrisy is simply astonishing. befuddlement
I, for one, can't fault India at all for taking advantage of Putin's stupidity and grabbing oil at cheap prices by the fistful while it still can. hocuspocus;
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/China-And-India-Are-Buying-Russian-Crude-At-A-40-Discount.html
like, come on
this is just being smart lol
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/ukraine-reacts-after-india-defends-russian-oil-purchase-morally-inappropriate-101670342827454.html
Absolutely nonsensical take.
With all due respect, fuck; off. India is the least of Ukraine's worries right now. goonish
for better or worse, right now russian oil is india's best option
if the """w*stern""" powers had any more than an ounce of collective wisdom they would offer india a SUPERIOR alternative to russian oil, rather than just whinging and condemning and being obnoxious hypocrites
big w for india tbh
Quote from: Samus Aran on December 07, 2022, 03:40:25 PMbig w for india tbh
srsly
i mean, india's usual source of oil is the middle eastern producers, whose prices have skyrocketed in part
because europe is rapidly replacing russian oil with saudi oil
so india, a poor forlorn third-world state, is priced out of its usual market because of skyrocketing demand
while russian oil is now pennies on the petrodollar per plummeting demand
you'd have to be NUTS to condemn india for
taking advantage of russia's utter desperation lol
Also, fun fact: we're now
300 days into Putin's "Kiev will fall in 3 days
!!". goodjob;
https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2022/12/20/putin-admits-russia-faces-extremely-complicated-situation-in-occupied-ukrainian-territories/?sh=1a581927e151
rofl putindisapproves;
https://globalnews.ca/news/9362086/canada-approves-$7billion-purchase-16-F-35-jets/ (https://globalnews.ca/news/9362086/f35-jets-canada-ottawa-purchase-anand-military/)
y'kno
as an *merican, reading news like this makes me breathe an uncomfortable sigh of relief
I mean, it's evidence that our extremely high military investments actually are now paying off, at least on some level. befuddlement
It also lends credence to the age-old meme that the American economy needs and is fueled by everlasting war and that's the only way its crazy high military expenditure could possibly make any sense. I have never been fond of that meme. putindisapproves;
bump
Any good news? It seems we've hit a bit of a stalemate, hopefully not for long. SocksDood;
but you know what i've found truly remarkably incredibly intreresting throughout all of this
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/хуйлостан
It turns out the Ukr*inians are absolute memelords. psyduck;
Quote from: Kalahari Inkantation on February 05, 2023, 11:03:50 PMAny good news? It seems we've hit a bit of a stalemate, hopefully not for long. SocksDood;
The winter makes it hard for ground forces to do much in that region so it's likely to be a bit of a stalemate until spring
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-war-ukraines-zelensky-urges-complete-isolation-of-russia-in-2024-olympic-games-3607973
Hmm. D'you know what? befuddlement
Disagree'd, actyou'llually. befuddlemeg
Quote from: Kalahari Inkantation on February 08, 2023, 09:56:40 AMQuote from: Kalahari Inkantation on February 06, 2023, 12:25:44 AMQuote from: Kalahari Inkantation on February 06, 2023, 12:13:37 AMbut you know what i've found truly remarkably incredibly intreresting throughout all of this
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/хуйлостан
It turns out the Ukr*inians are absolute memelords. psyduck;
tfw no memein' demon' українська anonymous troll gf with ƕoms't to DAB on le putin*tes { ugly;}
:emo:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraina/comments/u0gh3b/an_epic_video_about_what_the_russians_have/
MY WI'VE.
MY WI'VE.[/size]
Mien WIe'f.
buw; (https://i.imgur.com/ZLW46X4.gif;) lubdoods; giggle; srs
Okay, w*f is happening in krasnoyarsk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnoyarsk). psyduck;
idk
Yeah me either