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I'm definitely not going to school.
www.strike911.org
What.
cool
Are you not going to school just because you want to use it as an excuse or does it actually express your political beliefs? I am hoping it's the latter.
I'll probably participate.
Quote from: JMV290 on August 11, 2007, 12:31:46 PM
Are you not going to school just because you want to use it as an excuse or does it actually express your political beliefs? I am hoping it's the latter.
I'll probably participate.
You know, this really won't accomplish anything. America has become so lazy that we can't even put up a real protest. psyduck;
Quote from: Lawlz on August 11, 2007, 12:35:24 PM
You know, this really won't accomplish anything. America has become so lazy that we can't even put up a real protest. psyduck;
True. gonk;
I might do it. Looks awesome.
Of course, it's not like it'll change anything...
Quote from: Mariomaniac21 on August 11, 2007, 12:48:06 PM
I don't know about you guys, but I don't give a shit about 911. No one I knew died and thousands of people die everyday, why should I care about those people?
The government lied about circumstances regarding the attacks and there seems to be evidence proving that it may have been involved.
Quote from: Mariomaniac21 on August 11, 2007, 12:53:36 PM
The only time I would care about the government would be when it turns to Communism, but that will neverhappen.
Okay, well you're an idiot. The strike isn't just protesting 9/11. It's protesting everything the Bush administration has done since, including war, illegal surveillance and arrest of citizens, torture... the list goes on.
And yes, JMV, I do actually believe in this politically.
Quote from: Mariomaniac21 on August 11, 2007, 01:16:33 PM
Like I said, I don't care about the Government, in about 2-3 months I won't be in the US anymore.
If you haven't noticed, the US doesn't really like minding it's own business. You really think moving to another country will remove you from the influence of its corrupt government?
Where are you moving?
Quote from: Snorkel on August 11, 2007, 01:13:03 PM
Okay, well you're an idiot. The strike isn't just protesting 9/11. It's protesting everything the Bush administration has done since, including war, illegal surveillance and arrest of citizens, torture... the list goes on.
And yes, JMV, I do actually believe in this politically.
Alright, just making sure. I know that a lot of kids attend political stuff just go get out of school. I don't know how many of the kids skipped school to attend "Day without an immigrant", only to not attend the rally and instead stay home smoking some weed. It sickens me. There are people who take the stuff seriously and some kids have to be retarded and use their work as an excuse to get out of school.
Quote from: Mariomaniac21 on August 11, 2007, 01:24:47 PM
Bolivia, I know the US has been fucking up South America for a while now, but I ignore it, theres nothing I can do so why care?
Yes, doing nothing stops the rise of a tyrant.
Doing nothing stops genocide
Doing nothing while your rights are being stripped away helps.
Quote from: JMV290 on August 11, 2007, 01:25:44 PM
Yes, doing nothing stops the rise of a tyrant.
Doing nothing stops genocide
Doing nothing while your rights are being stripped away helps.
And this "protest" is the epitome of doing nothing. psyduck;
They should pull the troops from Iraq.
Quote from: Videl on August 11, 2007, 01:53:33 PM
So September 11th was a sad day in history, yes it ruined many lives, and made the relatives of the ones who died miserable. What I thought was stupid was Bush tried to help the Iraqis. I'd bomb the whole Iraq. Who cares what the stupid liberals say,"They're nice people, we should try to help them..." They probably cried for the dead Iraqis more than the dead Americans. In my eyes those who dont want to support America should gtfo. And we should just blow up Iraq instead of having our soldiers killed trying to help it. psyduck;
Also dont argue with me. I wont change my mind for an internet forum.
You're a fucking retard.
And no, I'm not kidding in any way, shape, or form.
Quote from: Lawlz on August 11, 2007, 01:55:11 PM
You're a fucking retard.
And no, I'm not kidding in any way, shape, or form.
I dont care. I just dont agree with helping Iraq. And that wont influence me anyway.
Quote from: Videl on August 11, 2007, 01:53:33 PM
So September 11th was a sad day in history, yes it ruined many lives, and made the relatives of the ones who died miserable. What I thought was stupid was Bush tried to help the Iraqis. I'd bomb the whole Iraq. Who cares what the stupid liberals say,"They're nice people, we should try to help them..." They probably cried for the dead Iraqis more than the dead Americans. In my eyes those who dont want to support America should gtfo. And we should just blow up Iraq instead of having our soldiers killed trying to help it. psyduck;
Also dont argue with me. I wont change my mind for an internet forum.
Okay yes that sounded retarded. I'm just trying to figure out what I meant to say.
Quote from: Videl on August 11, 2007, 01:56:04 PM
I dont care. I just dont agree with helping Iraq. And that wont influence me anyway.
So what exactly has Iraq done? Nothing? I have to commend them for putting up with the US's shit without completely obliterating us. psyduck;
Quote from: Videl on August 11, 2007, 01:57:10 PM
Okay yes that sounded retarded. I'm just trying to figure out what I meant to say.
To sum up your post; "I'm Princess Hime and I'm a god damn dumbass sack of shit."
Quote from: Lawlz on August 11, 2007, 01:58:17 PM
So what exactly has Iraq done? Nothing? I have to commend them for putting up with the US's shit without completely obliterating us. psyduck;To sum up your post; "I'm Princess Hime and I'm a god damn dumbass sack of shit."
Well really I mean didnt they cause all this stuff. I'll just shut up right now.
Actually scratch everything I said. I think they should just pull the troops out of Iraq. There's nothing more we can do.
Okay my parents are agreeing witht the government. gonk;
Quote from: Videl on August 11, 2007, 01:59:18 PM
Well really I mean didnt they cause all this stuff. I'll just shut up right now.
You're right; America does.
This war serves no purpose. Whether you believe it was Al Qu9asdfhoi that blew up the World Trade Center or our own government, it wasn't the general populace of Iraq. Killing everyone in an entire nation just because one measly little building got destroyed in insanely idiotic. psyduck;
If there's any type of person I hate, it's a jingoist.
Quote from: Videl on August 11, 2007, 01:59:59 PM
Actually scratch everything I said. I think they should just pull the troops out of Iraq. There's nothing more we can do.
ASIDE FROM KILLING MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE. axe;
Quote from: Lawlz on August 11, 2007, 02:02:56 PM
You're right; America does.
This war serves no purpose. Whether you believe it was Al Qu9asdfhoi that blew up the World Trade Center or our own government, it wasn't the general populace of Iraq. Killing everyone in an entire nation just because one measly little building got destroyed in insanely idiotic. psyduck;
If there's any type of person I hate, it's a jingoist. ASIDE FROM KILLING MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE. axe;
My parents told me it's all Iraq's fault. They're the reason we're fighting. I think we should pull the troops out of Iraq. They dont want us their anyway.
Quote from: Lawlz on August 11, 2007, 02:02:56 PM
You're right; America does.
This war serves no purpose. Whether you believe it was Al Qu9asdfhoi that blew up the World Trade Center or our own government, it wasn't the general populace of Iraq. Killing everyone in an entire nation just because one measly little building got destroyed in insanely idiotic. psyduck;
If there's any type of person I hate, it's a jingoist. ASIDE FROM KILLING MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE. axe;
Wait, wait, wait. I didnt mean the entire nation. Oh well. I just dont want to believe my parents anymore. caterpie;
Quote from: Mariomaniac21 on August 11, 2007, 02:05:19 PM
So you mean all those times people tried to shoot US soldiers, they were trying to make them leave? psyduck;
Wut. psyduck;
Quote from: Videl on August 11, 2007, 02:04:10 PM
My parents told me it's all Iraq's fault. They're the reason we're fighting. I think we should pull the troops out of Iraq. They dont want us their anyway.
Then your parents are dumbasses.
No one is ever willing to take the blame, and since we were already able to slap the 'terrorist' label on all "ragheads," all the jingoists and general fools were and still are in full support of total destruction of the middle east.
I suppose you hate Zayna for being Persian? spam;
Quote from: Lawlz on August 11, 2007, 02:07:52 PM
Then your parents are dumbasses.
No one is ever willing to take the blame, and since we were already able to slap the 'terrorist' label on all "ragheads," all the jingoists and general fools were and still are in full support of total destruction of the middle east.
I suppose you hate Zayna for being Persian? spam;
No. psyduck;
Quote from: Videl on August 11, 2007, 02:09:02 PM
No. psyduck;
but shes a terrorist and is against freedom and apl pi
Quote from: Lawlz on August 11, 2007, 02:10:03 PM
but shes a terrorist and is against freedom and apl pi
No she's not. Just because I'm related to my parents doesnt mean that. I dont believe my parents for everything. I dont believe in God and they do. I do believe Terrorist is becoming a too common name.
Quote from: Videl on August 11, 2007, 02:11:33 PM
No she's not. Just because I'm related to my parents doesnt mean that. I dont believe my parents for everything. I dont believe in God and they do. I do believe Terrorist is becoming a too common name.
Just a page back, you were against anything from a desert. You said you wouldn't change.
now luk
Quote from: Lawlz on August 11, 2007, 02:12:40 PM
Just a page back, you were against anything from a desert. You said you wouldn't change.
now luk
Well how many times have I lied before. spam; But srsly. My parents are idiots. I put two and two together. Sure one building got destroyed. It could of been an accident possibly. I dont believe it's necessary for the troops to still be in Iraq.
Quote from: Videl on August 11, 2007, 02:14:23 PM
Well how many times have I lied before. spam; But srsly. My parents are idiots. I put two and two together. Sure one building got destroyed. It could of been an accident possibly. I dont believe it's necessary for the troops to still be in Iraq.
4 buildings got destroyed
itt politically naive idiots who would doom us all were they in charge
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 11, 2007, 05:40:53 PM
itt politically naive idiots who would doom us all were they in charge
excellent
Quote from: steal on August 11, 2007, 08:47:53 PM
Good god, our serious discussion board sucks more than I thought.
It's because some of the faggots here don't like thinking and other believe anything their parents tell them.
HEY GUYS, I'M GOING TO SCHOOL JUST TO IRK YOU ALL.
ps i have to or i fail pre-calc
Quote from: JMV290 on August 11, 2007, 08:49:04 PM
It's because some of the faggots here don't like thinking and other believe anything their parents tell them.
Whatever. :|
Quote from: Rikku on August 11, 2007, 11:18:46 PM
Whatever. :|
Look in other threads "lol mommy sed god is real"
Quote from: JMV290 on August 11, 2007, 11:25:09 PM
Look in other threads "lol mommy sed god is real"
Dont think I'm dumb. You're obviously referring to me. :|
Shut up. My mom is god. I know this because my dad always shouts "OH GOD YES I'M YOUR SLAVE" at night when they're in bed.
Quote from: Rikku on August 11, 2007, 11:26:56 PM
Dont think I'm dumb. You're obviously referring to me. :|
I was referring to this board, and not you in specific.
Quote from: steal on August 11, 2007, 08:47:53 PM
Good god, our serious discussion board sucks more than I thought.
This was in the Lobby originally before I moved it, just so you know.
Quote from: Rikku on August 11, 2007, 11:26:56 PM
Dont think I'm dumb. You're obviously referring to me. :|
Some things you don't have to think about, because some things people just
know.
Quote from: JMV290 on August 11, 2007, 08:49:04 PM
It's because some of the faggots here don't like thinking and other believe anything their parents tell them.
Uh, not really. psyduck;
It sucks because there's so much na?vet? on both sides, most of the topics are "waaaaah personal problems and diary entries," and there's hardly any actual debate (possibly due to a lack of activity, as well as a lack of not sucking at debates).
Not like it's going to change anything as long as the retard is in office.
Under his "presidency", we're basically under a dictatorship.
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 10:42:21 AM
Under his "presidency", we're basically under a dictatorship.
uh i think if we were you would be sacked and imprisoned for saying that psyduck;
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 10:43:41 AM
uh i think if we were you would be sacked and imprisoned for saying that psyduck;
uh what
freedom of speech
take advantage of it while it's still there
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 10:45:00 AM
uh what
freedom of speech
take advantage of it while it's still there
Dictatorships typically don't have freedom of speech, Mr. Constitutional Scholar. psyduck;
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 10:48:01 AM
Dictatorships typically don't have freedom of speech, Mr. Constitutional Scholar. psyduck;
I don't mean completely, but by the way he's making decision. The people and Congress want to pull the troops out of Iraq. And he doesn't and they're staying there.
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 10:45:00 AM
uh what
******* of speech
take advantage of it while it's still there
um wut
we cant have you damn kids using profanities in this christian nation
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 10:48:01 AM
Dictatorships typically don't have freedom of speech, Mr. Constitutional Scholar. psyduck;
But it's always possible that a dictatorship may have freedom of speech, at least to some extent. caterpie;
Besides, it's not like we can just walk down the street and say we're going to overthrow the president.
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 10:49:28 AM
I don't mean completely, but by the way he's making decision. The people and Congress want to pull the troops out of Iraq. And he doesn't and they're staying there.
Cool. He's commander in chief. He's supposed to make decisions like that.
Anything else? psyduck;
Quote from: Lawlz on August 12, 2007, 10:50:00 AM
But it's always possible that a dictatorship may have freedom of speech, at least to some extent. caterpie;
name one then
Quote from: Lawlz on August 12, 2007, 10:50:00 AM
Besides, it's not like we can just walk down the street and say we're going to overthrow the president.
Yet one could say that under a different presidency? psyduck;
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 10:51:57 AM
Cool. He's commander in chief. He's supposed to make decisions like that.
Anything else? psyduck;
I'm saying that instead of doing just what he thinks is best, maybe he should take a look outside and see what the people think. psyduck;
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 10:51:57 AM
name one then
I said it's possible, I didn't say one currently exists. psyduck;
QuoteYet one could say that under a different presidency? psyduck;
cool?
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 10:55:13 AM
I'm saying that instead of thinking just what he thinks is best, maybe he should take a look outside and see what the people think. psyduck;
I think he has. And he's determined that his way is best. Leaders have a tendency to do that. psyduck;
Quote from: Lawlz on August 12, 2007, 10:57:46 AM
I said it's possible, I didn't say one currently exists. psyduck;
Thus, we're not living under a dictatorship. Jeez, could've just said that in your first post. :|
Quote from: Lawlz on August 12, 2007, 10:57:46 AM
cool?
Answer the question, dumbass.
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 10:59:03 AM
Thus, we're not living under a dictatorship. Jeez, could've just said that in your first post. :|
I never said we were.
QuoteAnswer the question, dumbass.
okay
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 10:59:03 AM
I think he has. And he's determined that his way is best. Leaders have a tendency to do that. psyduck;
But he's not getting positive responses. Even some of his fellow Republicans are opposing the war.
I can understand to keep going with it if the majority of the people are satisfied, but the majority of the people are dissatisfied. Shouldn't he take that as a hint? psyduck;
Quote from: Lawlz on August 12, 2007, 11:00:18 AM
I never said we were.
Then stop making arguments to the contrary only to abandon them so quickly. psyduck;
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 11:01:15 AM
But he's not getting positive responses. Even some of his fellow Republicans are opposing the war.
I can understand to keep going with it if the majority of the people are satisfied, but the majority of the people are dissatisfied. Shouldn't he take that as a hint? psyduck;
Sometimes a leader has to do what he thinks is right, not what is popular.
jeez i thought you people learned that in elementary school :|
What's the point of even having a president if everything is supposed to be decided by the majority? psyduck;
Not to mention that this majority probably doesn't understand the consequences of what they're proposing.
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 11:05:44 AM
Then stop making arguments to the contrary only to abandon them so quickly. psyduck;
...I'm entirely befuddled. Not once did I say anything about America being a dictatorship. psyduck;
Quote from: Lawlz on August 12, 2007, 11:07:56 AM
...I'm entirely befuddled. Not once did I say anything about America being a dictatorship. psyduck;
Directly? No. But you attempted to support the argument saying that it is. psyduck;
you're so clever
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 11:13:46 AM
Directly? No. But you attempted to support the argument saying that it is. psyduck;
you're so clever
ain't i a stinker
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 11:05:44 AM
Then stop making arguments to the contrary only to abandon them so quickly. psyduck;
Sometimes a leader has to do what he thinks is right, not what is popular.
jeez i thought you people learned that in elementary school :|
What's the point of even having a president if everything is supposed to be decided by the majority? psyduck;
Not to mention that this majority probably doesn't understand the consequences of what they're proposing.
A president should do what he thinks is right, then listen to the people. If they are satisfied, or the satisfaction-dissatisfaction ratio is like 55-45 or something close, he should continue doing what he thinks is right. But when the ratio is like 80-20 or something overwhelmingly against what the president is doing, he should at least reconsider what he's doing.
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 11:21:29 AM
A president should do what he thinks is right, then listen to the people. If they are satisfied, or the satisfaction-dissatisfaction ratio is like 55-45 or something close, he should continue doing what he thinks is right. But when the ratio is like 80-20 or something overwhelmingly against what the president is doing, he should at least reconsider what he's doing.
How do you know that he's never reconsidered it? psyduck;
what's the ratio now
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 11:28:11 AM
How do you know that he's never reconsidered it? psyduck;
what's the ratio now
I don't know if he has. But with everyone against it, it sure seems like he's blocking out everyone, because he's putting more troops into Iraq instead of starting to take out troops.
If you think about it, this war relates to the Vietnam war.
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 11:31:49 AM
I don't know if he has. But with everyone against it, it sure seems like he's blocking out everyone, because he's putting more troops into Iraq instead of starting to take out troops.
If you think about it, this war relates to the Vietnam war.
Which the generals asked for. Makes sense to me. psyduck;
boy never heard this one before but i'll humor you and let you explain your rationale
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 11:37:24 AM
Which the generals asked for. Makes sense to me. psyduck;
boy never heard this one before but i'll humor you and let you explain your rationale
wait what
and what
Either way, after this war is over (if it ends), they're probably going to say "sorry for the war. we just figured out it was stupid" 50 years from now.
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 11:38:49 AM
wait what
and what
Either way, after this war is over (if it ends), they're probably going to say "sorry for the war. we just figured out it was stupid" 50 years from now.
What.
Glad you can see the future.
so how does it related to the vietnam war psyduck;
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 11:42:27 AM
so how does it related to the vietnam war psyduck;
Most of the people don't want it.
We're interfering in a civil war.
dammit i forgot the other similarity
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 11:43:45 AM
Most of the people don't want it.
We're interfering in a civil war.
dammit i forgot the other similarity
Most people don't want war. Cool.
Okay. Same could be said of the Korean conflict.
So how is this a bad thing?
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 11:51:14 AM
Most people don't want war. Cool.
Okay. Same could be said of the Korean conflict.
So how is this a bad thing?
Yeah, I noticed that too.
Why the fuck are we interfering with a country's civil war then? psyduck;
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 11:53:08 AM
Why the fuck are we interfering with a country's civil war then? psyduck;
Maybe that's not the sole objective? psyduck;
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 03:33:04 PM
Maybe that's not the sole objective? psyduck;
Bush's only objective of Iraq is that he can "free" Iraq so he can get cheaper oil.
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 03:34:24 PM
Bush's only objective of Iraq is that he can "free" Iraq so he can get cheaper oil.
Uh, then why have most of the funds from Iraq's oil gone to rebuilding the country? psyduck;
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 11:53:08 AM
Yeah, I noticed that too.
Why the fuck are we interfering with a country's civil war then? psyduck;
Cuz we kinda caused the civil war psyduck;
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 03:37:22 PM
Uh, then why have most of the funds from Iraq's oil gone to rebuilding the country? psyduck;
ok
lets say us buys oil from iraq at $55 a barrel
but us "frees" iraq yaaaaaaaay
so iraq repays the us by selling their oil to us at $30 a barrel
That's what I'm trying to say. i duno wut ur trying to say
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 04:01:46 PM
ok
lets say us buys oil from iraq at $55 a barrel
but us "frees" iraq yaaaaaaaay
so iraq repays the us by selling their oil to us at $30 a barrel
That's what I'm trying to say. i duno wut ur trying to say
Statistics on how much oil we're buying from Iraq, please. flower;
Oh, and a source verifying that $30 price tag, too.
I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure Reuters reported less than a month ago that oil from Iraqi imports is at the second lowest point it's been in four years.
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 04:59:01 PM
Statistics on how much oil we're buying from Iraq, please. flower;
I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure Reuters reported less than a month ago that oil from Iraqi imports is at the second lowest point it's been in four years.
o
well you got me :(
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 05:00:07 PM
o
well you got me :(
Back up your claims, idiot. Give me some sources.
oh and to add to that whole iraq exporting less thing they're the sixth largest supplier to the u.s.
meaning, they're not the first, nor the second, etc. etc.
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 05:03:56 PM
Back up your claims, idiot. Give me some sources.
oh and to add to that whole iraq exporting less thing they're the sixth largest supplier to the u.s.
meaning, they're not the first, nor the second, etc. etc.
Back up what? The oil thing?
You have to think about. The U.S isn't just trying to "free" Iraq just out of freeing them. They're "freeing" them for something in return.
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 05:06:22 PM
Back up what? The oil thing?
You have to think about. The U.S isn't just trying to "free" Iraq just out of freeing them. They're "freeing" them for something in return.
No, the specific figures you came up with. Use sources. Don't make things up.
Okay, cool. That's typically how things work.
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 05:09:51 PM
No, the specific figures you came up with. Use sources. Don't make things up.
Okay, cool. That's typically how things work.
What specific figures?
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 05:35:54 PM
What specific figures?
You're an idiot. psyduck;
$30 for a barrel of oil from Iraq, for one.
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 05:40:33 PM
You're an idiot. psyduck;
$30 for a barrel of oil from Iraq, for one.
I was using that as an example. Not actual price. I don't know actual prices.
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 05:42:04 PM
I was using that as an example. Not actual price. I don't know actual prices.
No, you were using it to support your theory. And now you say you just made it up.
Doesn't make you look very good. psyduck;
protip: stop making yourself look like an idiot
it doesn't help
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 05:44:53 PM
No, you were using it to support your theory. And now you say you just made it up.
Doesn't make you look very good. psyduck;
protip: stop making yourself look like an idiot
it doesn't help
I
was using it to support my theory, but I made the numbers up. I didn't look them up or anything.
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 05:47:11 PM
I was using it to support my theory, but I made the numbers up. I didn't look them up or anything.
"I have a theory that my neighbor is an alien. As proof, here's a picture I drew of him being an alien." psyduck;
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 05:49:59 PM
"I have a theory that my neighbor is an alien. As proof, here's a picture I drew of him being an alien." psyduck;
no no no
Argh, no use in trying to explain it. It's kinda hard to explain.
Quote from: the jockyman on August 12, 2007, 05:55:16 PM
Argh, no use in trying to explain it. It's kinda hard to explain.
No, go ahead. I'm sure you could rationalize making up evidence to support a claim. psyduck;
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 12, 2007, 05:56:33 PM
No, go ahead. I'm sure you could rationalize making up evidence to support a claim. psyduck;
ive had enough of making myself look stupid :'(
Fuck no.
The last thing we need now is to start fighting our own government.
People may have their theories on everything the government has done over the years, but soon it will be all over.
I know the president doesn't hold complete power, but with a new president in the picture, things will change.
Quote from: Ripster on August 12, 2007, 06:31:03 PM
The last thing we need now is to start fighting our own government.
YOU'RE EITHER WITH US OR AGAINST US
Yes the government did know about it. They just needed a reason to to over there and take the iraqs oil. If you want proof look up loose Change Second Edition on youtube.
Quote from: MiamiDolphins398 on August 18, 2007, 11:10:23 PM...proof...loose Change Second Edition...
Never post in this board again.
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 19, 2007, 09:44:41 PM
Never post in this board again.
Uh, while Loose Change is a bit sketchy in parts, it has some truth, and its overall point is true. The government was obviously in on/was the mastermind behind 9/11. I really wouldn't put it past the Bush Administration, in retrospect, to orchestrate something like that. And it's not like it hasn't been proposed/done before, anyway.
It's largely irrelevant anyway. The point is that our government is denying citizens basic rights outlined in the Constitution, and that is bad.
Quote from: Snorkel on August 19, 2007, 10:28:31 PM
The government was obviously in on/was the mastermind behind 9/11.
Supply facts.
Quote from: Snorkel on August 19, 2007, 10:28:31 PM
I really wouldn't put it past the Bush Administration, in retrospect, to orchestrate something like that.
Why?
Quote from: Snorkel on August 19, 2007, 10:28:31 PM
And it's not like it hasn't been proposed/done before, anyway.
Quote from: CLASSIFIED TRANSCRIPTSJ. Edgar Hoover: Know what would be cool?
Robert McNamara: No, what?
Hoover: Orchestrating an elaborate plot to recruit young, disillusioned men of Middle-Eastern descent to kill 3,000 of our own citizens in order to accomplish...uh...
McNamara: What?
Hoover: Dunno.
...Show of hands?
Quote from: Snorkel on August 19, 2007, 10:28:31 PM
It's largely irrelevant anyway. The point is that our government is denying citizens basic rights outlined in the Constitution, and that is bad.
Such as?
Man, you're pretty callous, though. The lives of 3,000 people are irrelevant to you?
I'll most likely stay home for the political aspect of the strike, not just to skip school.
And I am only doing this because I believe 9/11 was a conspiracy and the Bush Administration has abused it's powers.
Can I take a tally here?
How many of you that believe 9/11 was a conspiracy, also believe in the Pearl Harbor one?
Quote from: Your Posting Rival on August 23, 2007, 07:53:04 AM
How many of you that believe 9/11 was a conspiracy, also believe in the Pearl Harbor one?
Which is that. psyduck;
Quote from: Ash on August 22, 2007, 10:15:55 PM
...the Bush Administration has abused it's powers.
how so
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 23, 2007, 11:51:03 AM
Which is that. psyduck;
That FDR ordered a strike on Pearl Harbor so we would have an excuse to get into the war
Quote from: Your Posting Rival on August 23, 2007, 11:53:01 AM
That FDR ordered a strike on Pearl Harbor so we would have an excuse to get into the war
lol
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 23, 2007, 01:27:40 PM
lol
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I was pretty sure the conspiracy with that was that he ignored warnings and let the attack happens.
Quote from: JMV290 on August 23, 2007, 02:04:06 PM
srs
I was pretty sure the conspiracy with that was that he ignored warnings and let the attack happens.
Some kid at my school found it on some conspiracy site... and believes it
Quote from: Your Posting Rival on August 23, 2007, 02:06:07 PM
Some kid at my school found it on some conspiracy site... and believes it
It makes sense. Isn't that what Bush did? Ordered the 9/11 attack to have an excuse to go into Afghanistan and Iraq?
Quote from: Ash on August 23, 2007, 10:03:35 PM
It makes sense. Isn't that what Bush did? Ordered the 9/11 attack to have an excuse to go into Afghanistan and Iraq?
The post you quoted was referring to Pearl Harbor.
Also, this is what I posted in another thread about the subject.
Quote from: JMV290 on August 22, 2007, 12:44:18 AM
Well, I doubt Bush or "the government" had anything directly to do with the attacks, but rather certain people within the government and armed services.
Through indirect actions, yes the US was responsible. They trained the many people in Al Qaeda, their actions caused Osama Bin Laden to gain influence. The government caused a lot of the issues that lead up to the attacks.
Bush is an idiot, he isn't capable of planning such an attack. Certain members of his cabinet and Cheney, yes they are purely capable of it and I wouldn't put it past them. All it takes is some manipulation and you get whatever you want. I'm sure that he was convinced that if he went along he would be able to go after Saddam, thus completing his own agenda. He went along with it, he knew what was going on but he wasn't anywhere near the mastermind of it.
Nothing is certain though, that's only what I believe. I'll stop there because that's not really the subject of this thread.
Quote from: Your Posting Rival on August 23, 2007, 07:53:04 AM
Can I take a tally here?
How many of you that believe 9/11 was a conspiracy, also believe in the Pearl Harbor one?
I sure as hell don't believe it was a conspiracy.
I personally don't know what to think though, as I haven't really looked into this matter much at all. But I'm sure it's possible. Either way, I personally tend not to think about these kinds of things considering most of this hubbub about corruption won't really start changing the country much until a few decades after I'm dead.
I'd stay home if I could, college is hard to miss school in because they cover a lot of stuff thats new, unlike normal Highschool classes which just repeat the same shit over for a whole week.
Is this for 9/11 to become a holiday or something or just a strike. I think it's silly that Americans get mad at the government (Conspiracy theorists don't follow along because I don't care what you think.) for defending America from terrorists. I won't give a shit what "terrorists" or whoever things as long as they don't kill people because of their beliefs. Yes they think what they're doing is right but killing people isn't right, America is defending itself, not killing because we can.
Quote from: Charles A. Reiss on August 23, 2007, 10:51:26 PM
I'd stay home if I could, college is hard to miss school in because they cover a lot of stuff thats new, unlike normal Highschool classes which just repeat the same shit over for a whole week.
Is this for 9/11 to become a holiday or something or just a strike. I think it's silly that Americans get mad at the government (Conspiracy theorists don't follow along because I don't care what you think.) for defending America from terrorists. I won't give a shit what "terrorists" or whoever things as long as they don't kill people because of their beliefs. Yes they think what they're doing is right but killing people isn't right, America is defending itself, not killing because we can.
BECAUSE INVASIONS IN COUNTRIES THAT AREN'T LINKED TO TERRORIST ATTACKS ARE HOW NATIONS DEFEND THEMSELVES.
As I've already said, this "9/11 Strike" is idiotic and won't do jack shit, but if everyone that chooses to participate carries out the strike for a month, then we'd get some results. Probably negative, but it'd be enough to shut these bastards up.
I wish I wanted to do this so I could express an opinion, but all I can think about is not going to school gonk;
Quote from: Ash on August 23, 2007, 10:03:35 PM
It makes sense. Isn't that what Bush did? Ordered the 9/11 attack to have an excuse to go into Afghanistan and Iraq?
no he didnt. you may be able to argue that they were stupid to not see the warnings but thats it.
Starting pearl harbor? That makes sence! lets severly hurt our military so we can go to war........erm ........with a hurt military! wow that logic is amazing.
Conspiracy theorists need to stick with the facts
Terrorists did it. not Bush. The heat from the burning rocket fuel didn't have to be hot enough to melt the steel support beams, just weaken them. The small 'explosions' were not caused by explosives. The air inside of the building was being blown out of the windows due to increased air pressure inside of the collapsing building.