America is a nation of corruption that is spiraling rapidly downhill. In a few years, the United States will be so corrupted and so fucked up that the results will be irreversible. With the value of the dollar rapidly declining and the country becoming even more corrupted due to the media and the "democracy" which in reality isn't really a democracy, the States will be nothing more than a memory of the past in a few years. I feel as if everyone needs to get out now, or else when the time comes when everyone WILL need to get out, everyone will be so poor due to the decline of the dollar that no one will be able to get out. No one will be able to buy a plane ticket, nor will any country allow all of these Americans in because so many will be trying to escape that not all of us will fit in. The airports will be overcrowded, and people won't even have enough money to buy food to survive in the meantime. People will starve to death, and the nation will be in so much poverty you couldn't get any money in another country due to the high exchange rate. These are just some of the reasons why I along with several other people I know say to get out.
Now, you may ask, "What do you mean, 'democracy'? I see nothing wrong with it." Well, first of all, by what I'm going to say next, I'm not endorsing any political candidate. Superdelegates. They are an example of corruption in this country. Hillary had the popular vote [according to my mom] but apparently since Obama had more superdelegates he got the Democratic nomination. I'm not saying that I would want Clinton as President [I don't], but still, if we were truly a democracy, the person with a higher popular vote should get the nomination. With presidential elections, it seems as if the higher-ups are the ones that decide who goes into office, such as the 2000 election. As I heard, apparently Gore had more votes, yet Bush was stuck in office. I don't know too much about the election in its entirety, so yeah.
So really, this thread's purpose is for you to discuss the corruption present in our country today.
Corruption is why this country rules the world.
Most countries are corrupt and always have been, but now we have more power.
So you're saying that the US is corrupted for not being a direct democracy? Elections aren't and shouldn't be popularity contests, and this country was never advertised as a direct democracy.
We are a Republic damn it. baddood;
superdelegates isn't corruption... goonish
Quote from: Bassir on June 21, 2008, 12:01:28 AM
So you're saying that the US is corrupted for not being a direct democracy? Elections aren't and shouldn't be popularity contests, and this country was never advertised as a direct democracy.
I'm saying it's corrupt because we're becoming communists.
Quote from: Silent Rob on June 21, 2008, 10:21:35 AM
I'm saying it's corrupt because we're becoming communists.
Shut up.
Also it's a republic-democracy. :'(
Quote from: Bassir on June 21, 2008, 12:01:28 AM
So you're saying that the US is corrupted for not being a direct democracy? Elections aren't and shouldn't be popularity contests, and this country was never advertised as a direct democracy.
No, they shouldn't be, but if more people voted [the people of the United States, not the superdelegates] for Clinton, then shouldn't she have gotten the nomination?
One person's vote shouldn't count more than another person's vote, the election should reflect the vote of the citizens, not the higher-ups.
Once again, I'm not saying that I want Clinton as the nominee.
Quote from: Laurami on June 21, 2008, 06:19:59 PM
No, they shouldn't be, but if more people voted [the people of the United States, not the superdelegates] for Clinton, then shouldn't she have gotten the nomination?
i actually believe when she said that she was just spewing baloney
i can't recall for sure and i don't feel like finding a source, but i do recall some article stating obama won everything and there were statistics to prove it
Our whole culture is pretty much based on manipulating people. As a result, our election system is a fucking joke, but no one's going to do anything about it because they're either afraid to lose their positions or are among those who benefit from a corrupt system.
I'm really thinking of moving to Canada or Sweden or some other country if the US doesn't get better. I can't stand the corruption anymore.
Quote from: Kiss Kiss on June 23, 2008, 10:22:23 AM
I'm really thinking of moving to Canada or Sweden or some other country if the US doesn't get better. I can't stand the corruption anymore.
oh Shut up, this has been going on since the beginning of time. Hell the country was created due to corruption. The entire world is based on the corrupted. You can't stop it. There is probably corruption in canada (which already sucks) anyway.
Weren't superdelegates made because one time in the primaries there was a tie between the Democratic candidates and there was nothing to break the tie, so there ended up being no Democratic candidate in the actual election?
Quote from: Yoseph on June 23, 2008, 10:22:23 AM
I'm really thinking of moving to Canada or Sweden or some other country if the US doesn't get better. I can't stand the corruption anymore.
My family's been thinking about getting out of here in a few years and moving somewhere else in the world, yet I doubt it will actually happen.
Quote from: KonohaShinobi on June 23, 2008, 10:58:05 AM
oh Shut up, this has been going on since the beginning of time. Hell the country was created due to corruption. The entire world is based on the corrupted. You can't stop it. There is probably corruption in canada (which already sucks) anyway.
Yes, every country has some bit of corruption, yet Finland has the lowest level in the world according to a magazine article I read.
Quote from: Pyner on June 23, 2008, 11:01:15 AM
Weren't superdelegates made because one time in the primaries there was a tie between the Democratic candidates and there was nothing to break the tie, so there ended up being no Democratic candidate in the actual election?
I'm not sure about that, but still, I feel that one person's vote shouldn't count more than another person's.
Quote from: Laurami on June 23, 2008, 04:54:42 PM
Yes, every country has some bit of corruption, yet Finland has the lowest level in the world according to a magazine article I read.
So you base your opinions off your mother and random magazine articles?
Quote from: Laurami on June 23, 2008, 04:54:42 PM
My family's been thinking about getting out of here in a few years and moving somewhere else in the world, yet I doubt it will actually happen.
My parents actually said that if the draft were ever reinstated, we would probably move.
There's a better chance of me joining the Navy before I got picked, though.
Quote from: Pyner on June 23, 2008, 05:42:55 PM
So you base your opinions off your mother and random magazine articles?
No, I'm basing my opinions off facts about things happening in the United States. doodthing;
Quote from: Yoseph on June 23, 2008, 05:44:06 PM
My parents actually said that if the draft were ever reinstated, we would probably move.
There's a better chance of me joining the Navy before I got picked, though.
I see. My mom's been saying that she wants to get out of here, but it won't happen likely. doodella;
Quote from: Yoseph on June 23, 2008, 05:44:06 PM
My parents actually said that if the draft were ever reinstated, we would probably move.
There's a better chance of me joining the Navy before I got picked, though.
draft is unconstitutional. doodthing;
I'd high-tail it north.
Quote from: Laurami on June 23, 2008, 04:54:42 PM
Yes, every country has some bit of corruption, yet Finland has the lowest level in the world according to a magazine article I read.
Lol, there is now a measurement of corruption? Source, I believe that "fact" was just passed off due to your obsession with finland.
Quote from: KonohaShinobi on June 23, 2008, 07:11:07 PM
Lol, there is now a measurement of corruption? Source, I believe that "fact" was just passed off due to your obsession with finland.
No, sir.
http://dubaiforvisitors.com/2008/01/27/worlds-most-corrupt-and-least-corrupt-nations/
http://www.data360.org/dsg.aspx?Data_Set_Group_Id=738
http://www.infoplease.com/toptens/leastcorruptcountries.html
There's three sources there for you.
Finland tied with Denmark and New Zealand, making it tie with those two as the least corrupted country in the world. doodthing;
Quote from: Vostroya on June 23, 2008, 08:40:50 PM
This topic is stupid and I'm tempted to lock this thread.
Define "corruption," everyone keeps throwing around the idea and I don't think any debate of meaning is happening here. I think what a lot of people are getting at is that the rich control everyone else in a democratic nation, and that fits in my definition of corrupt.
Like people have said, though, obviously our glorious country is "corrupt." So is every country. If you can find me a government that wasn't formed by or doesn't operate with corruption, then I'd conclude it's a very small nation or you made it up.
One of my opinions on the subject is that a large country (50,000,000+ citizens, let's say) cannot be run without significant and noticeably terrible blemishes.
Then I say the country should be divided.
Quote from: Yoseph on June 23, 2008, 08:48:57 PM
Then I say the country should be divided.
You should run for office, please start another civil war.
Quote from: Vostroya on June 23, 2008, 08:40:50 PM
Define "corruption," everyone keeps throwing around the idea and I don't think any debate of meaning is happening here. I think what a lot of people are getting at is that the rich control everyone else in a democratic nation, and that fits in my definition of corrupt.
corÃ,·rupt
ââ,¬â€œadjective
1. guilty of dishonest practices, as bribery; lacking integrity; crooked: a corrupt judge.
2. debased in character; depraved; perverted; wicked; evil: a corrupt society.
3. made inferior by errors or alterations, as a text.
4. infected; tainted.
5. decayed; putrid
Yes, it means that the higher-ups in society and government are the ones controlling everyone in a democratic nation.
Quote from: Vostroya on June 23, 2008, 08:40:50 PM
Like people have said, though, obviously our glorious country is "corrupt." So is every country. If you can find me a government that wasn't formed by or doesn't operate with corruption, then I'd conclude it's a very small nation or you made it up.
Yes, every country has a bit of corruption, but there are some countries that operate with nearly no corruption, which I already named in this thread, Finland, Denmark, and New Zealand.
They're not too small of nations.
Quote from: Vostroya on June 23, 2008, 09:05:10 PM
I'm mostly musing aloud, but I think it may be moderately effective to divide the US into regional superstates that are almost fully independent, but still joined by solid economic and political bonds, a bit like the UK. Each region could have its own self-contained copy of the Federal government that the whole country has now, and have smaller state governments like we have now also. If this was combined with a real House of Representatives that was composed of a good few thousand people that would govern the combined nation of superstates and a supreme council of several president-like figures.
This has several advantages. The most important I think would be that each superstate/region could control its own funds and development plans. Presently we have this in the form of state governments, but anytime there's something serious that needs a lot of money, how often does the state actually have the money? Katrina, 35W bridge collapse (something that actually affects me), San Diego fires, etc. In smaller superstates funding for different things could be much more controlled and streamlined, and fewer things (like education, hopefully) would be left unattended to.
I know I just described a system that will never happen (I'm guessing), so to offer an idea for a viable solution I'd say that state governments should be given much more power, and people should get some incentive to get involved in state-level politics. Elections for state governors should be as intense as presidential elections, and they should get nearly as much power within their state (combined with the other bodies of state legislature, of course).
I completely agree with everything you just said. In fact, I've contemplated such things in the past.
It would be a lot like a middle ground between the Articles of Confederation and the Constitution. In my opinion, the military and currency should still be federal. but much more power should be given to the states. In fact, I think the superstates should be formed out of the several regions of the US, with a few tweaks.
Unfortunately, I can't see this happening even in OUR lifetime. Maybe not even our children's.
yeah, the greatest country in the world is going to just somehow completely implode and collapse and never be heard of again.
The economy has been through times like this in the past, have you heard of the Great Depression? Guess not. Hey, we got out of that, didn't we?
Also, speculators already say that there is relief in sight in regards to oil. And if there isn't, there are scientists working 24/7 to adapt, like this country has been doing for centuries, and make cars that run on alternate sources (i.e. water, air, electricity). We change to suit our benefit. We don't just allow our country to fall into a ditch and die.
Also, I hate more than anything when people complain about our government being corrupt. All governments are corrupt, we are honorable compared to most others. It is inevitable to have corruption in the hands of people with power, get the fuck over it.
Quote from: KonohaShinobi on June 23, 2008, 10:58:05 AM
oh Shut up, this has been going on since the beginning of time. Hell the country was created due to corruption. The entire world is based on the corrupted. You can't stop it. There is probably corruption in canada (which already sucks) anyway.
This country was created to get away from corruption, and domestic tyranny.
Quote from: Yoseph on June 23, 2008, 05:44:06 PM
My parents actually said that if the draft were ever reinstated, we would probably move.
There's a better chance of me joining the Navy before I got picked, though.
I DONT WANNA DEFEND MY COUNTRY
LET THOSE BASTARDS DIE. IM OUTTA HERE
Quote from: Selkie224 on June 26, 2008, 01:17:02 PM
yeah, the greatest country in the world is going to just somehow completely implode and collapse and never be heard of again.
The economy has been through times like this in the past, have you heard of the Great Depression? Guess not. Hey, we got out of that, didn't we?
Also, speculators already say that there is relief in sight in regards to oil. And if there isn't, there are scientists working 24/7 to adapt, like this country has been doing for centuries, and make cars that run on alternate sources (i.e. water, air, electricity). We change to suit our benefit. We don't just allow our country to fall into a ditch and die.
Also, I hate more than anything when people complain about our government being corrupt. All governments are corrupt, we are honorable compared to most others. It is inevitable to have corruption in the hands of people with power, get the fuck over it.
Why do they say there's a relief in sight for oil? Even if they find a bunch under the ground in some country, the prices still aren't going to go down and it's not doing anything better for the environment. psyduck; I heard that there's going to be a big drop in price right before elections to try to convince people to vote for a certain candidate, which I don't understand, but right there shows corruption. psyduck; Why can't there be a drop now? Why not next Thursday? Why right before elections?
Scientists working on alternate fuels? What a joke. There haven't been any breakthroughs in developing a car that could do anything without fossil fuels and if they do happen, it probably won't be for a long time, then time required for assembly and to sell them. Imagine how high the prices of those cars will be. doodthing;
There won't be eco-friendly and relief from oil for anyone but the rich for a long ass time, sir.
Quote from: Silent Rob on June 26, 2008, 02:02:50 PM
I DONT WANNA DEFEND MY COUNTRY
LET THOSE BASTARDS DIE. IM OUTTA HERE
You're an idiot. psyduck;
Quote from: Laurami on June 26, 2008, 03:06:34 PM
Why do they say there's a relief in sight for oil? Even if they find a bunch under the ground in some country, the prices still aren't going to go down and it's not doing anything better for the environment. psyduck; I heard that there's going to be a big drop in price right before elections to try to convince people to vote for a certain candidate, which I don't understand, but right there shows corruption. psyduck; Why can't there be a drop now? Why not next Thursday? Why right before elections?
This is a prime example. I'm guessing it will be Barack because he has to put some meaning to his empty words of "change".
Scientists working on alternate fuels? What a joke. There haven't been any breakthroughs in developing a car that could do anything without fossil fuels and if they do happen, it probably won't be for a long time, then time required for assembly and to sell them. Imagine how high the prices of those cars will be. doodthing;
That's like hybrids. The prices get so high, and they only last for about 100,000 miles. I read that it would be more cost efficient to buy a full sized truck (16 mpg?). You save money on the actual car itself, and it lasts longer.
There won't be eco-friendly and relief from oil for anyone but the rich for a long ass time, sir.You're an idiot. psyduck;
I honestly can't see why we can't drill in alaska...
I'd like to think I'm not an idiot. He won't defend his country, so I was implying that he's like those tree hugging faggots who only care about how the enviroment feels.
Quote from: Silent Rob on June 27, 2008, 09:57:45 AM
This is a prime example. I'm guessing it will be Barack because he has to put some meaning to his empty words of "change".
That's like hybrids. The prices get so high, and they only last for about 100,000 miles. I read that it would be more cost efficient to buy a full sized truck (16 mpg?). You save money on the actual car itself, and it lasts longer.
I honestly can't see why we can't drill in alaska...
I'd like to think I'm not an idiot. He won't defend his country, so I was implying that he's like those tree hugging faggots who only care about how the enviroment feels.
Well, first of all, it won't be helping Obama any since it will be before elections, not after he's in office. If anything, it'll be an attempt to make the Republicans look as if they're doing one last "good" thing before they leave our office.
Exactly, which is why they need to develop something, and fast, though you know it won't happen for a long ass time when they're affordable to everyone. So, our world gets to get poisoned before we can help it.
Well, I think they're afraid that we're going to harm the wildlife there. Really, I don't want any more species going extinct than have to, but yeah, if we have to drill there, go for it, I guess.
By the way you worded that last piece of that original quote, it made you sound like you're lacking the brain cells to form a proper sentence.
Quote from: Laurami on June 27, 2008, 10:27:27 AM
Well, first of all, it won't be helping Obama any since it will be before elections, not after he's in office. If anything, it'll be an attempt to make the Republicans look as if they're doing one last "good" thing before they leave our office.
Exactly, which is why they need to develop something, and fast, though you know it won't happen for a long ass time when they're affordable to everyone. So, our world gets to get poisoned before we can help it.
Well, I think they're afraid that we're going to harm the wildlife there. Really, I don't want any more species going extinct than have to, but yeah, if we have to drill there, go for it, I guess.
By the way you worded that last piece of that original quote, it made you sound like you're lacking the brain cells to form a proper sentence.
"oooh he made a mistake. im goin to call him out for it cause i cant argue."
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 05, 2008, 12:45:58 PM
"oooh he made a mistake. im goin to call him out for it cause i cant argue."
"Oh, look, I can't come up with a better rebuttal than to challenge her intolerance of my shitty grammar and ignore the rest of what she said in that post."
Quote from: Laurami on July 05, 2008, 08:21:54 PM
"Oh, look, I can't come up with a better rebuttal than to challenge her intolerance of my shitty grammar and ignore the rest of what she said in that post."
I made one (number, 1) post with "bad" grammar? whoopy fuckin doo. the world is going to end as we know it.
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 06, 2008, 09:15:04 AM
I made one (number, 1) post with "bad" grammar? whoopy fuckin doo. the world is going to end as we know it.
This board is for serious discussion, where you're supposed to use correct grammar and spelling and post intelligently.
You still never replied to my reply to your original post, you're just going on about my intolerance of your shitty grammar.
doodthing;
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 05, 2008, 12:45:58 PM
"oooh he made a mistake. im goin to call him out for it cause i cant argue."
I like how you only responded to her pointing out your mistake, and ignored the 3 small points that were completely on topic.
Quote from: Yoseph on June 23, 2008, 10:22:23 AM
I'm really thinking of moving to Canada or Sweden or some other country if the US doesn't get better. I can't stand the corruption anymore.
Oh, fucking blow me. What the hell does the corruption in our country do to you?
Quote from: mariofreak on July 11, 2008, 07:45:04 PM
Oh, fucking blow me. What the hell does the corruption in our country do to you?
death of the fourth amendment affects everyone
Quote from: Laurami on July 06, 2008, 01:34:17 PM
This board is for serious discussion, where you're supposed to use correct grammar and spelling and post intelligently.
You still never replied to my reply to your original post, you're just going on about my intolerance of your shitty grammar.
doodthing;
The simple fact that I made a mistake just negates every point I've made.
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 12, 2008, 11:13:31 AM
The simple fact that I made a mistake just negates every point I've made.
M!ppo, you're a complete and utter idiot. I'm sorry I have to be so harsh about it, but you are.
What I said was a side note, you were supposed to read what I had written, think about it, and type up a rebuttal to my other points.
I'm sorry that you don't have the brain cells to comprehend this simple strategy that, for most, comes natural.
Please, do us all a favor and get the fuck out of serious discussion. It's obvious that this board is too much for someone like you to handle.
Quote from: Laurami on July 12, 2008, 09:54:33 PM
M!ppo, you're a complete and utter idiot. I'm sorry I have to be so harsh about it, but you are.
What I said was a side note, you were supposed to read what I had written, think about it, and type up a rebuttal to my other points.
I'm sorry that you don't have the brain cells to comprehend this simple strategy that, for most, comes natural.
Please, do us all a favor and get the fuck out of serious discussion. It's obvious that this board is too much for someone like you to handle.
Honestly, Mippo should be banned from this board just for being Mippo. This board is the opposite of what he stands for. baddood;
Quote from: Geno on July 13, 2008, 12:38:06 AM
Honestly, Mippo should be banned from this board just for being Mippo. This board is the opposite of what he stands for. baddood;
He should be banned from this board because of the idiocy seen here in this thread. doodthing;
Quote from: Laurami on July 12, 2008, 09:54:33 PM
M!ppo, you're a complete and utter idiot. I'm sorry I have to be so harsh about it, but you are.
You say it sort of, honestly but in a nice way :3
What I said was a side note, you were supposed to read what I had written, think about it, and type up a rebuttal to my other points.
Our argument was going nowhere; was it not? We weren't changing any opinions, only coming up with more excuses.
I'm sorry that you don't have the brain cells to comprehend this simple strategy that, for most, comes natural.
This proves every point you've ever made.
Please, do us all a favor and get the fuck out of serious discussion. It's obvious that this board is too much for someone like you to handle.
Alright, fine. If you really care so much that one post made by a member reflects every bit of the board, and the members in it, then whatever. You can whine about it.
thees sintinces shure r hard.
Quote from: Geno on July 13, 2008, 12:38:06 AM
Honestly, Mippo should be banned from this board just for being Mippo. This board is the opposite of what he stands for. baddood;
Grudges are the best way to win an argument.
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 13, 2008, 02:39:53 PM
Our argument was going nowhere; was it not? We weren't changing any opinions, only coming up with more excuses.
Alright, fine. If you really care so much that one post made by a member reflects every bit of the board, and the members in it, then whatever. You can whine about it.
Well, if you didn't have a response to what I had posted, you didn't have to reply. Instead, you kept going on about my intolerance of shitty grammar. doodthing;
Your post doesn't reflect the state of the board and the members in it. Your post reflects your stupidity and gives us reasons to believe that you don't have the capability to post intelligently, which is required in this board.
Quote from: Laurami on July 13, 2008, 04:19:13 PM
Well, if you didn't have a response to what I had posted, you didn't have to reply. Instead, you kept going on about my intolerance of shitty grammar. doodthing;
Your post doesn't reflect the state of the board and the members in it. Your post reflects your stupidity and gives us reasons to believe that you don't have the capability to post intelligently, which is required in this board.
That's irrelevant. You had to point out a mistake while I was letting this thread die.
I forgot. Rules of the internet.
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 13, 2008, 04:34:56 PM
That's irrelevant. You had to point out a mistake while I was letting this thread die.
I forgot. Rules of the internet.
This argument is fucking stupid.
When I pointed out the mistake, it was along with other points that you very easily could have responded to. Instead, you chose to only respond to the fact that I noticed your mistake.
Quote from: Laurami on July 13, 2008, 04:59:48 PM
This argument is fucking stupid.
When I pointed out the mistake, it was along with other points that you very easily could have responded to. Instead, you chose to only respond to the fact that I noticed your mistake.
This is what I was saying without saying it.
The fact of the matter is, the argument was going nowhere.
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 13, 2008, 06:49:56 PM
This is what I was saying without saying it.
The fact of the matter is, the argument was going nowhere.
Yes, and there's nothing more to say about this argument.
It's just been agreed on that you totally ignored the rest of my post and got angry about an irrelevant, insignificant part of my post that was pointing out that I don't like shitty grammar, as does not the rest of serious discussion.
Let this argument die, let the people who wish to discuss corruption discuss it. This is doing nothing but giving me some serious +1's. But, if you're going to respond, don't worry, I'll keep going with you.
Quote from: Laurami on July 13, 2008, 09:23:57 PM
Yes, and there's nothing more to say about this argument.
It's just been agreed on that you totally ignored the rest of my post and got angry about an irrelevant, insignificant part of my post that was pointing out that I don't like shitty grammar, as does not the rest of serious discussion.
Let this argument die, let the people who wish to discuss corruption discuss it. This is doing nothing but giving me some serious +1's. But, if you're going to respond, don't worry, I'll keep going with you.
I didn't reply because I didn't care.
Look, dude. You won. Now let this thread die.
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 14, 2008, 04:28:43 AM
I didn't reply because I didn't care.
Look, dude. You won. Now let this thread die.
Okay.
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 14, 2008, 04:28:43 AM
I didn't reply because I didn't care.
Look, dude. You won. Now let this thread die.
No, don't let this thread die. Let you're pointless argument die.
To all of the haters: Fuck you. it's my fucking choice if I stay in this country or not. If I find another country that I like more than the United States, then that's that. Don't try to twist my fucking opinions just because you can't think anything else but "USA! USA! NUMBER ONE! NUMBER ONE!" You're the kind of sick retards that would stay in your home country even if the government were knocking down your front door and killing your family. You're blinded by extreme patriotism, bordering on fanaticism. And we have seen what resuts from fanaticism.
Quote from: Yoseph on July 14, 2008, 01:49:58 PM
No, don't let this thread die. Let you're pointless argument die.
To all of the haters: Fuck you. it's my fucking choice if I stay in this country or not. If I find another country that I like more than the United States, then that's that. Don't try to twist my fucking opinions just because you can't think anything else but "USA! USA! NUMBER ONE! NUMBER ONE!" You're the kind of sick retards that would stay in your home country even if the government were knocking down your front door and killing your family. You're blinded by extreme patriotism, bordering on fanaticism. And we have seen what resuts from fanaticism.
The problem is you said you're leaving because of corruption and made it seem as if Canada is a perfect nation where every person is perfectly educated and every politician is a perfect man that doesn't let evil money get in the way of good decisions.
Quote from: Yoseph on July 14, 2008, 01:49:58 PM
No, don't let this thread die. Let you're pointless argument die.
To all of the haters: Fuck you. it's my fucking choice if I stay in this country or not. If I find another country that I like more than the United States, then that's that. Don't try to twist my fucking opinions just because you can't think anything else but "USA! USA! NUMBER ONE! NUMBER ONE!" You're the kind of sick retards that would stay in your home country even if the government were knocking down your front door and killing your family. You're blinded by extreme patriotism, bordering on fanaticism. And we have seen what resuts from fanaticism.
I'll let my are argument die.
I/m not hating on you for leaving. I'm also not "OMG WE RAWK", seeing as I want to move to Japan.
What's wrong with having love for your country? I bet you that the natives of Canada and wherever you want to move your mexican ass to will bitch about their government.
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 14, 2008, 06:20:18 PM
I'll let my are argument die.
I/m not hating on you for leaving. I'm also not "OMG WE RAWK", seeing as I want to move to Japan.
What's wrong with having love for your country? I bet you that the natives of Canada and wherever you want to move your mexican ass to will bitch about their government.
I'm not hispanic, you racist fucktard.
I didn't say there was anything wrong with loving your country. Just that as with anything in life, too much of something is bad.
Jingoism is a terrrible thing
Its obvious we are corrupt, everyone is. As long as the human race exists, the world will suck.
Quote from: Meta Ridley on July 18, 2008, 11:33:21 AM
Its obvious we are corrupt, everyone is. As long as the human race exists, the world will suck.
I can assure you that there are the same kinds of governmental issues in these foreign countries as there are here.
Quote from: Yoseph on July 14, 2008, 07:10:03 PM
I'm not hispanic, you racist fucktard.
I didn't say there was anything wrong with loving your country. Just that as with anything in life, too much of something is bad.
Yet, if you called me white, and I said "I'm caucasian, you racist bastard" you'd think I'm retarded huh? funny how double standards work.
Water.
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 25, 2008, 10:18:21 AM
Yet, if you called me white, and I said "I'm caucasian, you racist bastard" you'd think I'm retarded huh? funny how double standards work.
What?
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Water.
Water intoxication kills.
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 25, 2008, 10:18:21 AM
Yet, if you called me white, and I said "I'm caucasian, you racist bastard" you'd think I'm retarded huh? funny how double standards work.
Water.
That makes no sense, dumbass.
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 24, 2008, 09:46:33 AM
I can assure you that there are the same kinds of governmental issues in these foreign countries as there are here.
You are right about that, they do exist elsewhere. But, the point that you're missing is the fact that the level varies between countries as I've said earlier.
This thread was meant to discuss the corruption and compare it upon the levels of other countries and such. The problems are elsewhere, just in separate amounts of these issues/
Quote from: Laurami on July 25, 2008, 11:15:51 AM
That makes no sense, dumbass.You are right about that, they do exist elsewhere. But, the point that you're missing is the fact that the level varies between countries as I've said earlier.
This thread was meant to discuss the corruption and compare it upon the levels of other countries and such. The problems are elsewhere, just in separate amounts of these issues/
It does make sense. America thrives on Double Standards.
The point is, you're not going to escape governmental issues such as this.
So you're saying there's some kind of official scale on how bad your government is? You're retarded.
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 25, 2008, 11:28:42 AM
It does make sense. America thrives on Double Standards.
The point is, you're not going to escape governmental issues such as this.
So you're saying there's some kind of official scale on how bad your government is? You're retarded.
Uh, yes, dumbass, there is a scale that measures the amount of corruption present. doodthing;
http://www.forbes.com/2008/06/26/somalia-myanmar-corruption-bizcountries08-biz-cx_af_lm_0626bizcountries_corruptcountries.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Corruption_Report
Quote from: Laurami on July 25, 2008, 03:35:22 PM
Uh, yes, dumbass, there is a scale that measures the amount of corruption present. doodthing;
http://www.forbes.com/2008/06/26/somalia-myanmar-corruption-bizcountries08-biz-cx_af_lm_0626bizcountries_corruptcountries.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Corruption_Report
When was this established.
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 25, 2008, 07:31:53 PM
When was this established.
"It began in 2001 simply as a collection of research on global corruption. But, since 2003, has grown into a report dedicated to providing information and solutions to corruption in various areas."
Quote from: JMV on July 25, 2008, 08:42:00 PM
"It began in 2001 simply as a collection of research on global corruption. But, since 2003, has grown into a report dedicated to providing information and solutions to corruption in various areas."
I probably should have read it doodthing;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_perception_of_corruption
Notice how un-corrupt all the Nordic countries are doodella;
US is 20th place out of 180, not too bad I'd say.
Quote from: Hiro on July 25, 2008, 09:10:27 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_perception_of_corruption
Notice how un-corrupt all the Nordic countries are doodella;
US is 20th place out of 180, not too bad I'd say.
Still doesn't shut up all of the idiots who chant "USA! USA! #1! #1!"
Quote from: Yoseph on July 26, 2008, 06:22:01 PM
Still doesn't shut up all of the idiots who chant "USA! USA! #1! #1!"
But that has nothing to do with being corrupt. doodthing;
Quote from: Yoseph on July 26, 2008, 06:22:01 PM
Still doesn't shut up all of the idiots who chant "USA! USA! #1! #1!"
Stating your opinion as fact and repeating it continually doesn't mean anything.
Quote from: Lawlz on July 11, 2008, 08:40:24 PM
death of the fourth amendment affects everyone
does if affect you enough to think that the united states is a shitty country
hell, the united states isn't perfect. but it's a hell of a lot closer to any other country in the world.
Quote from: mariofreak on July 27, 2008, 03:37:15 PM
does if affect you enough to think that the united states is a shitty country
hell, the united states isn't perfect. but it's a hell of a lot closer to any other country in the world.
we're nowhere near being the best
nordic nations are far better than the us could ever hope to be
We're much better off than most of the world, but we're still not even near the top.
Quote from: Red Lightning on July 26, 2008, 06:22:01 PM
Still doesn't shut up all of the idiots who chant "USA! USA! #1! #1!"
RRRG! I hate it when people put the US on this pedestal above everyone else. It seems so egotistical and insensitive to me. And even though America is an amazing place to live and i know I'm SO fortunate to live here, I've never gravitated toward striking fear into another country with severely confrontational displays of my patriotism and showy displays of our military forces.