Poll
Question:
daaaaaaaaa
Option 1: Obama
votes: 41
Option 2: McCain
votes: 6
Option 3: Nader
votes: 6
Option 4: token Libertarian candidate
votes: 4
Since the primaries are pretty much over.
Obama
I'm pulling for Obama.
On a side note, I thought it was really cute too see him and his wife bang knuckles on TV.
lol Nader.
Oh, and unanimous Obama vote makes this place infinitely better than NS2.
Quote from: wolflink64 on June 09, 2008, 04:42:23 PM
lol Nader.
Oh, and unanimous Obama vote makes this place infinitely better than NS2.
Wait until Tyler ruins it. :/
NAAAAADAR hahah... wait. I wanna change my vote now. >_>
Quote from: Zyphet on June 09, 2008, 06:42:47 PM
NAAAAADAR hahah... wait. I wanna change my vote now. >_>
That's what you get for not taking Serious Discussion Seriously.
Quote from: houdini on June 09, 2008, 08:32:24 PM
That's what you get for not taking Serious Discussion Seriously.
Thanks for the lols. keke;
Add Barr.
Quote from: houdini on June 10, 2008, 10:06:24 AM
Why bother?
because what if someone wants to pick bob barr
Quote from: Co-Z on June 10, 2008, 10:34:56 AM
because what if someone wants to pick bob barr
You're assuming someone would want to pick Bob Barr.
Quote from: houdini on June 10, 2008, 10:59:33 AM
You're assuming someone would want to pick Bob Barr.
Well I'm tied with him and Obama so what if I pick him. baddood;
Quote from: Co-Z on June 10, 2008, 02:40:03 PM
Well I'm tied with him and Obama so what if I pick him. baddood;
You're probably the only one who even knows who he is.
Quote from: houdini on June 10, 2008, 03:06:30 PM
You're probably the only one who even knows who he is.
but i saw him on the colbert report recently so now everyone knows who he is
Quote from: houdini on June 10, 2008, 03:06:30 PM
You're probably the only one who even knows who he is.
libertarian party baddood;
Also, Obama's really the only one who matters. powerofone;
Ok, fine. Happy?
Quote from: houdini on June 10, 2008, 03:42:32 PM
Ok, fine. Happy?
Get rid of everyone but Obama and then I'll be happy. baddood;
Quote from: joeinc on June 10, 2008, 05:50:42 PM
itt we delete posts that are true
ITT We delete posts that don't belong in Serious Discussion.
vote mccain 08
he will teach the terrorists a lesson about messing with AMERICA
I am still undecided who to vote for. :(
McCain.
Quote from: Socks on June 10, 2008, 09:18:05 PM
McCain.
Number one reason why you vote for him.
Quote from: Clair on June 11, 2008, 08:38:21 AM
Number one reason why you vote for him.
He's 'strong' on defense and foreign policy, or at least more so then Obama.
McCain because he's experienced and he's more republican. obama is too young and unexperienced. His plan to 'learn as he goes' is not good enough. also he's extremely pro-abortion which i am not in favor for, and that he affiliated himself with terrorists and anti-americans. change? what change!!! ' i stand for CHANGE!' and all the dumbasses out there go - 'Oh god i love him so much! he's black and and can talk well. it doesn't REALLY matter what's coming out of his mouth because he's saying it with such intellect! OH GOD I"M A SWOONING SCHOOLGIRL!!'
sorry.. i guess this isn't the place to rant. (!)
Quote from: :atomsk: on June 11, 2008, 02:01:56 PM
he affiliated himself with terrorists and anti-americans.
What?
McCain motherfucker!
Well thanks for adding Bob Barr, but I'm still undecided ;D
Barr has the right views but he used to be a right-winged asshole, so I'm not sure.
Quote from: Co-Z on June 11, 2008, 09:58:04 PM
Well thanks for adding Bob Barr, but I'm still undecided ;D
Barr has the right views but he used to be a right-winged asshole, so I'm not sure.
From what I understand, he's a right-wing asshole who hates Bush for some reason.
Quote from: houdini on June 11, 2008, 04:48:03 PM
What?
I don't know about "terrorists" but he does plan to hold formal talks with Iran etc... And then there is his former Pastor, he can be labeled "anti-american" in my opinion, it has nothing to do with birthplace.
Quote from: Socks on June 13, 2008, 12:48:03 AM
I don't know about "terrorists" but he does plan to hold formal talks with Iran etc...
Since when were formal talks bad?
Quote from: Socks on June 13, 2008, 12:48:03 AM
And then there is his former Pastor, he can be labeled "anti-american" in my opinion, it has nothing to do with birthplace.
That's a complete non-issue, though.
Quote from: Clair on June 13, 2008, 07:17:06 PM
He is so old though. baddood;
Old= more experience. I don't need some newfag trying to get into office just to throw his feces all around the oval office.
Obama.
At least Obama is for net neutrality and won't let the whole "tiered" Internet thing go through, as far as I heard.
Quote from: KonohaShinob-e on June 14, 2008, 06:33:14 AM
Old= more experience. I don't need some newfag trying to get into office just to throw his feces all around the oval office.
I don't need some oldfag trying to get into office just to throw his feces all around the oval office.
Now this thread has at least 2 nonsensical posts
Quote from: KonohaShinob-e on June 14, 2008, 06:33:14 AM
Old= more experience. I don't need some newfag trying to get into office just to throw his feces all around the oval office.
Political experience doesn't seem to have much bearing on a president's competence. For example; George Bush had experience as a governor before taking the Oval Office.
Quote from: houdini on June 13, 2008, 08:17:26 PM
Since when were formal talks bad?
The leader of the free world would giving unimaginable credibility, recognition and satisfaction to a county diametrically opposed to us as a county and people. Not to mention they are killing our people in Iraq and the past history between our two nations.
Quote from: Socks on June 16, 2008, 09:09:39 AM
The leader of the free world would giving unimaginable credibility, recognition and satisfaction to a county diametrically opposed to us as a county and people. Not to mention they are killing our people in Iraq and the past history between our two nations.
So what are we supposed to do? Nuke them off the face of the earth?
Quote from: houdinie on June 17, 2008, 01:01:22 AM
So what are we supposed to do? Nuke them off the face of the earth?
No. We take the civilized route and instead arm the countries surrounding it baddood;
anyways i'm a convicted felon
Quote from: Commodore Guff on June 19, 2008, 12:22:00 AM
No. We take the civilized route and instead arm the countries surrounding it
Yes, I love proxy.
I AM VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE I IDIOT
:o
Quote from: Ñerp on June 19, 2008, 09:41:52 AM
I AM VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE I IDIOT
You can't vote IDIOT.
Quote from: Socks on June 19, 2008, 09:43:45 AM
You can't vote IDIOT.
You're UNAMERICAN IDIOT.
:o
Quote from: Ñerp on June 19, 2008, 09:47:34 AM
You're UNAMERICAN IDIOT.
:o
Quit dipshitting this board up. If you want to argue, fine, but don't bring your chat thread bullshit in here.
Quote from: Chris Tucker on June 19, 2008, 09:10:01 PM
Quit dipshitting this board up. If you want to argue, fine, but don't bring your chat thread bullshit in here.
don't bring your chat thread bullshit anywhere, dickhead
Quote from: Ñerp on June 20, 2008, 12:10:57 AM
don't bring your chat thread bullshit anywhere, dickhead
Um, I wasn't, I was going to say that if you're going to argue, do it in a respectable manner not your usual,stupid, dipshitty way. You make yourself out to be an ass.
Quote from: Cam on June 20, 2008, 08:25:24 PM
How so?
I'm not even going to bother asking. Socks would defend frickin' Hoover.
Quote from: houdinie on June 20, 2008, 09:29:19 PM
I'm not even going to bother asking. Socks would defend frickin' Hoover.
You can't blame Hoover for most of what happened.
Quote from: Socks on June 20, 2008, 09:42:20 PM
You can't blame Hoover for most of what happened.
I can, however, blame Coolidge.
Quote from: houdinie on June 20, 2008, 09:45:36 PM
I can, however, blame Coolidge.
I never liked that guy. baddood;
Mallard Fillmore speaks volumes
(http://www.jewishworldreview.com/strips/mallard/2000/MFT20080624.jpg)
Quote from: Selkie224 on June 28, 2008, 07:17:00 PM
Mallard Fillmore speaks volumes
(http://www.jewishworldreview.com/strips/mallard/2000/MFT20080624.jpg)
If you read the ingredients, you'll find that it's very healthy for you! caterpie;
Quote from: wolflink64 on June 09, 2008, 04:42:23 PM
lol Nader.
Oh, and unanimous Obama vote makes this place infinitely better than NS2.
"i cant take it that someone has adifferent opinion. that place sucks. i must be god"
Get off the internet, seriously.
Just a few awesome political websites so you guys and stay up to date and informed:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com
http://www.electoral-vote.com
http://www.270towin.com
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com
Quote from: Selkie224 on June 28, 2008, 07:17:00 PM
Mallard Fillmore speaks volumes
(http://www.jewishworldreview.com/strips/mallard/2000/MFT20080624.jpg)
Nicely done, I had the same thought.
Quote from: Lawlz on July 05, 2008, 03:27:07 PM
lmao
No.
How is Ronald Reagan not a great president? Quick being a dickhole.
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 06, 2008, 09:16:21 AM
How is Ronald Reagan not a great president? Quick being a dickhole.
He sucked on big oil's cock, long time. Plus, he had Bush I as VP.
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 06, 2008, 09:16:21 AM
How is Ronald Reagan not a great president? Quick being a dickhole.
"let's get tough on crime"
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 06, 2008, 09:16:21 AM
How is Ronald Reagan not a great president? Quick being a dickhole.
Contra
@ the people seriously voting for Nader or Barr:
Why? You know they aren't going to win. It's a waste of a vote.
Quote from: mariofreak on July 11, 2008, 07:37:36 PM
@ the people seriously voting for Nader or Barr:
Why? You know they aren't going to win. It's a waste of a vote.
but they're better than both obama and mccain
Quote from: Lawlz on July 11, 2008, 07:39:03 PM
but they're better than both obama and mccain
i'm sure even if somebody was voting for nader, they would have a preference between obama and mccain. why don't you make your vote count?
Quote from: mariofreak on July 11, 2008, 07:58:01 PM
i'm sure even if somebody was voting for nader, they would have a preference between obama and mccain. why don't you make your vote count?
if everyone that thought nader was cool voted for him, we wouldn't have to worry about obama and mccain
Quote from: Lawlz on July 11, 2008, 08:39:30 PM
if everyone that thought nader was cool voted for him, we wouldn't have to worry about obama and mccain
there aren't enough tree humpers in the world to beat obama or mccain
Nader will lead the mole people party to victory! But seriously, my dad thinks Obama doesn't stand a chance.
Quote from: mariofreak on July 11, 2008, 07:37:36 PM
@ the people seriously voting for Nader or Barr:
Why? You know they aren't going to win. It's a waste of a vote.
Barr wasn't that bad in the House (i think it was).
He's better than McCain and Obama.
McCain has voters cause he's the famous white republican. Obama is getting voters because he's black.
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 14, 2008, 04:29:54 AM
Barr wasn't that bad in the House (i think it was).
He's better than McCain and Obama.
McCain has voters cause he's the famous white republican. Obama is getting voters because he's black.
People used to support Obama because he actually seemed pretty good; now he's honestly not seeming much better than McCain with his "khjgskdhjfgs FOR ISRAEL" crap.
really, i don't give a shit about israel and i don't care if anyone attacks them
also, as time goes on, the more he's stating how much he supports everything done by bush just to get old white bastards
When McCain wins who will leave Boyah out of protest?
Quote from: Socks on July 14, 2008, 08:27:55 AM
When McCain wins who will leave Boyah out of protest?
I'll be leaving the US.
Zayna can stay in California, and I'll just wait for her in some other nation.
Quote from: Socks on July 14, 2008, 08:27:55 AM
When McCain wins who will leave Boyah out of protest?
If McCain wins there will be no freedom on the internet.
Quote from: JMV on July 17, 2008, 05:39:58 PM
If McCain wins there will be no freedom on the internet.
Cool.
Quote from: Socks on July 18, 2008, 08:10:47 AM
Cool.
You're worse than Lawlz at debating. doodthing;
Quote from: JMV on July 17, 2008, 05:39:58 PM
If McCain wins there will be no freedom on the internet.
I find that hard to believe...
Obama fails, and so does everyone who supports him. Case and point is below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_jh2dO78U
No matter who wins, the US is still screwed. No one will change anything. However, anyone who falls for obama's pathetic attempts at promising peace and change in america is dumb. 100% serious.
I hate all the candidates, and I hate politicians. But if I had to choose, id go with McCain.
Quote from: Meta Ridley on July 18, 2008, 11:31:06 AM
Obama fails, and so does everyone who supports him. Case and point is below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_jh2dO78U
No matter who wins, the US is still screwed. No one will change anything. However, anyone who falls for obama's pathetic attempts at promising peace and change in america is dumb. 100% serious.
I hate all the candidates, and I hate politicians. But if I had to choose, id go with McCain.
I'm not liking Obama much of late, but anything is better than that dumb cunt McCain.
Quote from: JMV on July 18, 2008, 08:26:44 AM
You're worse than Lawlz at debating.
Why would I debate silliness?
Quote from: Socks on July 18, 2008, 08:33:02 PM
Why would I debate silliness?
It's not a silly issue. McCain doesn't support Net Neutrality: Obama does. And it's not just the freedom to use something like Boyah that would be at risk. ISPs would be able to filter whatever content they please(as they have already begun throttling p2p traffic). Tiered services (http://boyah.net/forums/index.php/topic,14704.0.html) would put many people at a disadvantage. Regardless of who you are, you have access to the same information as anyone else with an internet connection. If you're poor you can access the same sites as the wealthy without your ISP deciding otherwise. Freedom of speech is covered under it.
The great thing about freedom on the internet is that people can find almost anything(even if it's the occasional not so good thing) instantly--without government censorship.
There have been governmental attempts to try editing Wikipedia(I believe it was the FBI or DHS doing it) to make certain articles seem more favorable. Freedom on the internet allowed the misinformation to be fixed. Sites like Wikileaks (http://wikileaks.org/) are only possible with such freedom.
Without net neutrality such freedom to access accurate information quickly will be compromised.
Don't even get me started on china style censorship that would be possible without net neutrality.
So, before saying such is "silliness" think things through and think about all of the Candidate's policies.
The internet does not belong to the US, it can't police it.
Quote from: Socks on July 18, 2008, 09:04:15 PM
The internet does not belong to the US, it can't police it.
It can, however, police the activity that goes on inside of it. A simple DNS block or redirect can prevent citizens from accessing the sites. They can shut down the physical servers if they're hosted in the country. It's highly possible. I know some ISPs currently block sites like 4Chan. Schools block websites: think of that on a grand scale. It happens in China, Saudi Arabia, and several other Middle Eastern nations. It can, and if network neutrality isn't protected will, happen here.
I can go into technical details here but I doubt you want to hear all of the computer type stuff, but I know what I'm talking about here.
Never happen, the internet represents an ever increasing economic powerhouse, and that means lobbyists, not to mention that it is being integrated into everyday life more and more. As time goes on not only will these things increase but so will the demographics constantly change in favor of a generation who has grown up with it since day one.
Or you can always move to Canada.
Quote from: Socks on July 18, 2008, 09:24:02 PM
Never happen, the internet represents an ever increasing economic powerhouse, and that means lobbyists
You mean like the RIAA? Or how the Government has already attempted to shutdown sites like wikileaks, or how the ISPs themselves don't support net neutrality?
Quotenot to mention that it is being integrated into everyday life more and more. As time goes on not only will these things increase but so will the demographics constantly change in favor of a generation who has grown up with it since day one.
Changing to something that is becoming more acceptable? A conservative? What?
QuoteOr you can always move to Canada.
naw b. If I move anywhere it's going to be Sweden.
Quote from: Socks on July 18, 2008, 09:24:02 PM
Never happen, the internet represents an ever increasing economic powerhouse, and that means lobbyists, not to mention that it is being integrated into everyday life more and more. As time goes on not only will these things increase but so will the demographics constantly change in favor of a generation who has grown up with it since day one.
Or you can always move to Canada.
I can't see it not happening.
Why wouldn't the government want to censor the internet so that only favorable information reaches the people? Why would they want regular people like us getting rich overnight by providing cheap or free services to the people and not stuffing any money in their pockets? Having to pay for individual websites like we do TV channels would make ISPs, the government, and existing big companies even richer, so why wouldn't they support it?
Quote from: Commodore Guff on July 19, 2008, 10:13:26 AM
toh doodthing;
Speak for yourself. I am now thoroughly convinced that Barack Obama would make a bad president because I watched a cartoon on Youtube.
Quote from: Silent Rob on July 14, 2008, 04:29:54 AM
Barr wasn't that bad in the House (i think it was).
He's better than McCain and Obama.
McCain has voters cause he's the famous white republican. Obama is getting voters because he's black.
Of course you might think he's better. That doesn't mean voting for him will affect anything at all.
Quote from: mariofreak on July 27, 2008, 03:38:53 PM
Of course you might think he's better. That doesn't mean voting for him will affect anything at all.
if everyone voted for ralph nader and didn't have that stupid "lol it won't matter" idea lodged in their brain, we'd have a president that didn't suck
Quote from: Lawlz on July 27, 2008, 08:35:12 PM
if everyone voted for ralph nader and didn't have that stupid "lol it won't matter" idea lodged in their brain, we'd have a president that didn't suck
People don't vote for Ralph Nader because he's an attention whore.
And it also has a lot to do with the national media, which can't comprehend how to cover more than two candidates in a given race.
Quote from: Lawlz on July 27, 2008, 08:35:12 PM
if everyone voted for ralph nader and didn't have that stupid "lol it won't matter" idea lodged in their brain, we'd have a president that didn't suck
funny how you talk so much shit about marijuana and pretty much all ralph nader supporters support him for the sole fact that he would legalize it. the only reason you are saying that he would not suck is because he's different and you just want to be controversial and say that all presidential canidates are terrible and that the country is a pile of shit that can't be fixed unless we all vote for ralph nader who you probably don't even know his stance on most things.
lern poltix
Quote from: Purloiner of Hares on August 13, 2008, 08:24:07 PM
The ridiculous dual-party system isn't really a result of the media, it's just the way our country's political system has evolved from the demographics that it has grown out of over the decades/centuries.
I don't think I've posted my thoughts in this thread before. If I could vote this fall and Obama/McCain were surely the candidates I would vote independent purely on basis of protesting the two-party system. McCain's a fucking moron and I'd quite like to leave the country if his cabinet was running it. Obama isn't exactly my dream candidate either.
In my opinion the best possible FEASIBLE presidential team would be Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul. They've said someway or another that they'd consider running with each other, and I really think that that would be the best thing that could happen to American politics right now.
- Why don't you like Obama
- Why do you like Kucinich
- Why do you like Paul
Quote from: Purloiner of Hares on August 13, 2008, 10:02:12 PM
I don't dislike Obama, I'm just not going to put a sign up in my yard or anything. I feel like he talks about many big important things that need to be done, but once he gets in office he won't followup or have take the initiative to actually get these things done thoroughly. Foreign policy, he's definitely not a seasoned pro there; nothing a good VP can't help though.
what makes you think any other politician would be any different
and since when do either kucinich or paul have foreign policy credentials
Quote from: Purloiner of Hares on August 13, 2008, 10:02:12 PM
Kucinich is a guy I've liked for a long time because he is one of the few politicians I've seen who transcends the politician mold more than those around him...
problem: he has no influence whatsoever
Quote from: Purloiner of Hares on August 13, 2008, 10:02:12 PM
...for instance [Ron Paul's] campaign officially states that he is pro-life, but he is personally pro-choice.
what doodthing; (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul#Pro-life_legislation)
I personally think Oboma will win, if he chooses Hilary to be his vice president. keke;
Quote from: ââ,,¢Â¥Betaââ,,¢Â¥ on August 15, 2008, 08:49:51 AM
I personally think Oboma will win, if he chooses Hilary to be his vice president. keke;
Ew please no
Quote from: ââ,,¢Â¥Betaââ,,¢Â¥ on August 15, 2008, 08:49:51 AM
I personally think Oboma will win, if he chooses Hilary to be his vice president. keke;
I hope that won't and doubt that will happen.
Why did no one comment on Palin?
Also, if you're 18 or turning 18 in the next month or so; http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/17/94016/0264/300/591612
Remember to register soon.
She's a Vice President, she's not that important.
I'm undecided right now, but I'm turning away from Obama because of his plans for big government programs. I'm not a fan of them, and at least McCain says he wants to curb the federal government's involvement and spending. They're both pretty shitty candidates, but I guess I'll go with the lesser evil in the end...
Quote from: Rycerz on September 17, 2008, 05:33:30 PM
She's a Vice President, she's not that important.
I'm undecided right now, but I'm turning away from Obama because of his plans for big government programs. I'm not a fan of them, and at least McCain says he wants to curb the federal government's involvement and spending. They're both pretty shitty candidates, but I guess I'll go with the lesser evil in the end...
no, she's a vice presidential candidate
what programs doodthing;
Quote from: Commodore Guff on September 17, 2008, 05:40:21 PM
no, she's a vice presidential candidate
what programs doodthing;
oh yeah, with all the hype surrounding her i forgot there are other vp candidates
taken from the obama campaign site thing:
Mandatory Coverage of Children: Obama and Biden will require that all children have health care coverage. Obama and Biden will expand the number of options for young adults to get coverage, including allowing young people up to age 25 to continue coverage through their parents' plans.
The Obama-Biden Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama and Biden will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress.
Quote from: Rycerz on September 17, 2008, 05:33:30 PMI'm not a fan of them, and at least McCain says he wants to curb the federal government's involvement and spending. They're both pretty shitty candidates, but I guess I'll go with the lesser evil in the end...
doesn't the federal government spend to pay for the war which mccain supports?
mccain also supports many of bush's policies, which currently have us in a huge deficit and banks failing, and the federal government having to support freddie mac/fannie mae and aig.
but mccain totally hates spending.
Quote from: Khadafi on September 17, 2008, 06:15:20 PM
doesn't the federal government spend to pay for the war which mccain supports?
mccain also supports many of bush's policies, which currently have us in a huge deficit and banks failing, and the federal government having to support freddie mac/fannie mae and aig.
but mccain totally hates spending.
i dunno i hear that mccain wants the federal government to stop supporting businesses like that
the war in iraq is a shithole no matter what the next president does; withdraw or stay in, it'll still be a major problem, so don't think obama will make it magically disappear
if only ron pawl stayed in the race >.<
Quote from: Rycerz on September 17, 2008, 06:18:52 PM
if only ron pawl stayed in the race >.<
then he still would have lost
Quote from: Rycerz on September 17, 2008, 06:08:42 PM
taken from the obama campaign site thing:
Mandatory Coverage of Children: Obama and Biden will require that all children have health care coverage. Obama and Biden will expand the number of options for young adults to get coverage, including allowing young people up to age 25 to continue coverage through their parents' plans.
The Obama-Biden Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama and Biden will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress.
yeah what assholes, making sure that children have health insurance while still cutting taxes for the middle class more than mccain's plan would how irresponsible doodthing;
Quote from: Commodore Guff on September 17, 2008, 06:40:32 PM
then he still would have lostyeah what assholes, making sure that children have health insurance while still cutting taxes for the middle class more than mccain's plan would how irresponsible doodthing;
why the hell do kids need health insurance
to cover the cost of their boo boos? doodthing;
if they're going to fund more programs according to their website and give back all these credits to small businesses and shit, and with the huge deficit we have, how does cutting taxes solve anything
Quote from: Rycerz on September 17, 2008, 07:14:05 PM
why the hell do kids need health insurance
to cover the cost of their boo boos? doodthing;
if they're going to fund more programs according to their website and give back all these credits to small businesses and shit, and with the huge deficit we have, how does cutting taxes solve anything
wait so just because they're children, they can't get diseases like adults
or anything like that
Quote from: Ezlo on September 17, 2008, 07:15:13 PM
wait so just because they're children, they can't get diseases like adults
or anything like that
how does mandatory spending controlled by the government solve anything that couldn't be done before
insurance is such a huge scam, you never see most of the money back, which you could, i dunno, be spending on necessities right here and now
Quote from: Rycerz on September 17, 2008, 07:18:23 PM
how does mandatory spending controlled by the government solve anything that couldn't be done before
insurance is such a huge scam, you never see most of the money back, which you could, i dunno, be spending on necessities right here and now
What necessities are you missing
Quote from: Flying Circus on September 17, 2008, 07:26:37 PM
What necessities are you missing
what i mean is, why can't families be expected to do the right thing with their money than have some third party control it
politicians use a similar argument when talking in favor of public education
"don't you want your children to have a proper education?"
I think i'll hold on to my own money and hire the people I can trust to teach my children when the time comes, not have them march in hordes to sit in front of people that can't give a shit to if the kids understand what they're teaching them
it's just another form of control and indoctrination
Quote from: Rycerz on September 17, 2008, 07:14:05 PM
why the hell do kids need health insurance
gahahaha okay you win
Quote from: Commodore Guff on September 18, 2008, 05:22:20 AM
gahahaha okay you win
...I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. :(
Quote from: Rycerz on September 18, 2008, 05:07:31 PM
...I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. :(
No. He's being absolutely serious.
Quote from: Ezlo on September 18, 2008, 05:14:31 PM
No. He's being absolutely serious.
Now you're just making it worse. doodthing;
wow ur dumb
Quote from: Rycerz on September 17, 2008, 07:32:33 PM
what i mean is, why can't families be expected to do the right thing with their money than have some third party control it
politicians use a similar argument when talking in favor of public education
"don't you want your children to have a proper education?"
I think i'll hold on to my own money and hire the people I can trust to teach my children when the time comes, not have them march in hordes to sit in front of people that can't give a shit to if the kids understand what they're teaching them
it's just another form of control and indoctrination
Fun fact: A whole lot of people can't afford private education. I know it must be a shock, but not everyone is as privileged as you are.
Quote from: Houdini on September 19, 2008, 09:59:56 PM
Fun fact: A whole lot of people can't afford private education. I know it must be a shock, but not everyone is as privileged as you are.
Fun fact: They can't afford private education because they're too busy paying for 'public' schooling through inflated state taxes. I also find that it is unfair for people who don't have kids who go to school to also have to pay for the public education system. The current system we have is horribly flawed and corrupt, and should be destroyed.
I've been in the public education system since the first grade. The first private school I'll be going to is college. caterpie;
I still can't believe he picked Palin.
Quote from: Red Lightning on September 20, 2008, 01:17:43 PM
I still can't believe he picked Palin.
She's better than another Dick Cheney though.
Quote from: Rycerz on September 20, 2008, 08:34:18 PM
She's better than another Dick Cheney though.
Not really. She's more or less the Bush to McCain's Cheney.
Quote from: Rycerz on September 20, 2008, 09:57:19 AM
Fun fact: They can't afford private education because they're too busy paying for 'public' schooling through inflated state taxes.
I also find that it is unfair for people who don't have kids who go to school to also have to pay for the public education system.
what percentage of taxes go to public education
perhaps somewhat more reasonable, but then what's the point of taxpayer supported public education when only the people who use it pay for it (hint: that would make it pretty much like private education) doodthing;
After the last 8 years, I have decided to give up on politics for a while and not vote for either canidate.
If I was going to vote, id vote McCain/Palin.
Go ahead and start throwing the tomatos.
Quote from: Nurse ProtectedMember32 on September 21, 2008, 02:46:21 AM
After the last 8 years, I have decided to give up on politics for a while and not vote for either canidate.
If I was going to vote, id vote McCain/Palin.
Go ahead and start throwing the tomatos.
why
Quote from: Nyerp@#%^&* on September 21, 2008, 07:01:38 AM
why
I get a bad vibe from Obama.
I think he may be good at lying.
Quote from: Nurse ProtectedMember32 on September 21, 2008, 07:54:15 AM
I get a bad vibe from Obama.
I think he may be good at lying.
oh wow, a vibe doodthing;
Quote from: Commodore Guff on September 21, 2008, 08:13:27 AM
oh wow, a vibe doodthing;
im not very political, as you might guess. :(
Quote from: Nurse ProtectedMember32 on September 21, 2008, 07:54:15 AM
I get a bad vibe from Obama.
I think he may be good at lying.
i dont trust them darkies neither
Quote from: Nurse ProtectedMember32 on September 21, 2008, 07:54:15 AM
I get a bad vibe from Obama.
I think he may be good at lying.
I think it's because you're from Texas
Quote from: Flying Circus on September 21, 2008, 12:45:21 PM
I think it's because you're from Texas
All I see on my way to work are giant yard signs that say "McCain and Palin 2008". giggle;
There was one sign that said Obama 2008, but it was the Democratic meeting center.
Personally, I may stay away from voting this year.
Quote from: Commodore Guff on September 20, 2008, 09:17:42 PM
what percentage of taxes go to public education
perhaps somewhat more reasonable, but then what's the point of taxpayer supported public education when only the people who use it pay for it (hint: that would make it pretty much like private education) doodthing;
From http://www.assemblydems.com/pdf/0809Session/prroberts042108.pdf :
"Roughly 55 percent of the average New Jersey homeownerââ,¬â,,¢s property taxpayer bill goes to support
local schools. Public education also accounts for roughly one-third of all state spending."
So a little more than half of the taxes paid by people without children who go to a public school doesn't go into something they can use; what the hell is that?
Quote from: Houdini on September 20, 2008, 08:35:45 PM
Not really. She's more or less the Bush to McCain's Cheney.
I'd like you to expand a bit on this assertion.
Quote from: Rycerz on September 21, 2008, 01:41:21 PM
From http://www.assemblydems.com/pdf/0809Session/prroberts042108.pdf :
"Roughly 55 percent of the average New Jersey homeownerââ,¬â,,¢s property taxpayer bill goes to support
local schools. Public education also accounts for roughly one-third of all state spending."
So a little more than half of the taxes paid by people without children who go to a public school doesn't go into something they can use; what the hell is that?
I'd like you to expand a bit on this assertion.
I'm not too sure on the McCain = Cheney thing, but Palin is similar to Bush in that they both have around the same amount of competence for the job.
Quote from: They Call Me Classic on September 21, 2008, 12:49:55 PM
All I see on my way to work are giant yard signs that say "McCain and Palin 2008". giggle;
There was one sign that said Obama 2008, but it was the Democratic meeting center.
Personally, I may stay away from voting this year.
Thank goodness for Austin
Quote from: Rycerz on September 21, 2008, 01:41:21 PM
I'd like you to expand a bit on this assertion.
McCain is the corrupt schemer, Palin is there to get attention and make the campaign more attractive to shallow voters.
I wonder how many niggers are only voting for Obama because he's black. Same with racists for McCain.
Quote from: Det. ;] on September 21, 2008, 05:28:24 PM
I wonder how many niggers are only voting for Obama because he's black. Same with racists for McCain.
Some black people aren't voting for Obama because they say he's not black enough lol
Quote from: Det. ;] on September 21, 2008, 05:28:24 PM
I wonder how many niggers are only voting for Obama because he's black. Same with racists for McCain.
well the thing is that blacks overwhelmingly vote democratic anyways so that would be hard to tell
I wonder how many bitches are only voting for Palin and mccain because she's female. Same with niggers for Obama.
vote ron paul
Quote from: Flying Circus on September 21, 2008, 05:32:35 PM
Some black people aren't voting for Obama because they say he's not black enough lol
You obviously misunderstand what they mean.
Quote from: Back In '88 on September 22, 2008, 07:23:35 AM
You obviously misunderstand what they mean.
He did not have the slave experience, so he's not black. Some lady on the Daily Show was going on about that some months ago.
Quote from: Flying Circus on September 22, 2008, 01:21:02 PM
He did not have the slave experience, so he's not black. Some lady on the Daily Show was going on about that some months ago.
No one today has the slave experience. doodthing;
Unless you're a slave. doodella;
Quote from: Rycerz on September 22, 2008, 01:51:16 PM
No one today has the slave experience. doodthing;
Unless you're a slave. doodella;
His ancestors, whatever
Quote from: Flying Circus on September 22, 2008, 02:09:19 PM
His ancestors, whatever
My ancestors were probably slaves in the Roman Empire.
Does that make me any more black? doodthing;
Quote from: Rycerz on September 22, 2008, 02:24:35 PM
My ancestors were probably slaves in the Roman Empire.
Does that make me any more black? doodthing;
Slavery wasn't based on race in the Roman Empire. And I meant in America...
So, what does it mean to be black?
Does it mean to have ancestors who were slaves in America? I don't know what people are getting at with this.
Quote from: Rycerz on September 22, 2008, 02:55:19 PM
So, what does it mean to be black?
Does it mean to have ancestors who were slaves in America? I don't know what people are getting at with this.
that's the stupidest shit i've ever heard befuddlement
people are idiots
Quote from: Flying Circus on September 22, 2008, 01:21:02 PM
He did not have the slave experience, so he's not black.
No, it is more along the lines that he did not experience the hardships and discrimination that the civil rights generation did.
There is a huge rift between the black generation of yesteryear and the black generation of today.
It is almost as if the older black people see the way that the young black people conduct themselves today and say "This is not why we were hosed, for you to act and dress and speak this way." But then the younger generation responds, "Yes it is.", because the whole point of the civil rights movement was to gain the freedoms that blacks have today.
The majority of black people today have forgotten who they are and where they come from, at least in the opinion of the older, civil rights generation.
Holy shit. Obama has this in the bag. McCain acted like a complete asshole in last night's debate.
i love obama.
hes gunna win forsure.
except that someone is gunna try and kill him.
or has already tried.
poor guy.
Yeah, I'd want to vote for someone who thinks we have 57 states. befuddlement
Quote from: Knig on October 28, 2008, 09:52:49 AM
Yeah, I'd want to vote for someone who thinks we have 57 states. befuddlement
he said that after many, many days of campaigning and accidentally said he'd visited 57 rather than 47 states doodthing;
mccain has confused sunnis and shi'ites, has referenced an 'iraq/pakistan border', and referred to putin as germany's president
in conclusion, everyone misspeaks from time to time, and a slip of the tongue is no reason to vote against someone doodthing;
Quote from: Commodore Guff on October 28, 2008, 10:56:07 AM
he said that after many, many days of campaigning and accidentally said he'd visited 57 rather than 47 states doodthing;
mccain has confused sunnis and shi'ites, has referenced an 'iraq/pakistan border', and referred to putin as germany's president
in conclusion, everyone misspeaks from time to time, and a slip of the tongue is no reason to vote against someone doodthing;
I know that McCain is a dumbass too, comparing one idiot to another doesn't make them any better. doodthing; doodthing; doodthing;
Quote from: Knig on October 28, 2008, 01:07:03 PM
I know that McCain is a dumbass too, comparing one idiot to another doesn't make them any better. doodthing; doodthing; doodthing;
the point is that mr. obama is not an idiot
maybe we should go through the nsa's daily transcripts of your conversations and dig up all the times you've misspoken
I was hearing today in school that there was an assassination attempt on Obama last night.
Is this true?
Quote from: Geno on October 28, 2008, 02:28:02 PM
I was hearing today in school that there was an assassination attempt on Obama last night.
Is this true?
I wouldn't necessarily call it an attempt. It was rather a plot.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/27/obama.plot/index.html?iref=newssearch
QuoteSTORY HIGHLIGHTS
-Plot included killing 100 African-Americans, beheading 14, officials say
-Plot was to end with attempt to kill Obama while wearing white, police say
-Law enforcement sources sees no evidence men could pull off plot
-Federal prosecutors charge Daniel Cowart, 20, and Paul Schlesselman, 18
Quote from: Commodore Guff on October 28, 2008, 01:09:10 PM
the point is that mr. obama is not an idiot
maybe we should go through the nsa's daily transcripts of your conversations and dig up all the times you've misspoken
Only to find to your astonishment what an intelligent speaker I am. n_u
I find it really disappointing that of all of the capable men and women that should be in this country, either Obama or McCain will fill the spot of the face of America. I feel that both men are not competent enough for the job.
I'll still be voting, likely for McCain as a preliminary effort to stop the judge appointments and socialist programs Obama will most likely introduce if he gets into office.
Quote from: Knig on October 28, 2008, 03:45:12 PM
I'll still be voting, likely for McCain as a preliminary effort to stop the judge appointments and socialist programs Obama will most likely introduce if he gets into office.
doodthing;
Quote from: Knig on October 28, 2008, 03:45:12 PM
I find it really disappointing that of all of the capable men and women that should be in this country, either Obama or McCain will fill the spot of the face of America. I feel that both men are not competent enough for the job.
(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5776/americanflagjz2.gif)
RON PAUL '08 (http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5776/americanflagjz2.gif)
wait obama is a socialist what since when
that means i should vote for him twice
Quote from: Khadafi on October 28, 2008, 04:45:17 PM
wait obama is a socialist what since when
Since dumbfucks who are blindly anti-Obama stopped deciding to educate themselves and learn what socialism and communism really is.
Soooooooo, since forever ago?
Quote from: Khadafi on October 28, 2008, 04:45:17 PM
wait obama is a socialist what since when
that means i should vote for him twice
i like how the actual socialist candidates have been disputing that claim
Oh why am I still voting for McCain? :'(
Quote from: Socks on October 29, 2008, 08:56:27 PM
Oh why am I still voting for McCain? :'(
Because you believe that McCain will be more able to protect the US from its enemies? hocuspocus;
Quote from: ME86 on October 31, 2008, 03:34:51 PM
Because you believe that McCain will be more able to protect the US from its enemies?
You get candy for this.
Quote from: Commodore Guff on October 28, 2008, 10:56:07 AM
he said that after many, many days of campaigning and accidentally said he'd visited 57 rather than 47 states doodthing;
as if that's an excuse for saying a completely different number. i don't know how the hell anyone can fuck that up. psyduck;
Quote from: Commodore Guff on October 28, 2008, 01:09:10 PM
maybe we should go through the nsa's daily transcripts of your conversations and dig up all the times you've misspoken
he's not running for president of the united states of america. doodthing;
Quote from: Mary Warren on November 01, 2008, 06:47:40 AM
as if that's an excuse for saying a completely different number. i don't know how the hell anyone can fuck that up. psyduck;
he's not running for president of the united states of america. doodthing;
completely different in that he said fifty instead of forty
and that somehow has an effect on how often someone flubs a line? doodhuh;
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 01, 2008, 07:01:10 AM
completely different in that he said fifty instead of forty
and that somehow has an effect on how often someone flubs a line? doodhuh;
or that the phrase '57 states' shouldn't even cross his mind in the first place.
oh yes, sure, let's have a shitty public speaker to represent and be president of our country. he probably won't be talking to any foreign countries or anything, and when he says '57 states' again, that won't embarrass us one bit. ^_________^
Quote from: Mary Warren on November 01, 2008, 07:22:55 AM
or that the phrase '57 states' shouldn't even cross his mind in the first place.
oh yes, sure, let's have a shitty public speaker to represent and be president of our country. he probably won't be talking to any foreign countries or anything, and when he says '57 states' again, that won't embarrass us one bit. ^_________^
At least he'll known where that nation is and if they are an enemy or not. bassir;
Quote from: Kewn on November 01, 2008, 07:25:30 AM
At least he'll known where that nation is and if they are an enemy or not. bassir;
but not how many states are in his own country: good. ^_____^
Quote from: Mary Warren on November 01, 2008, 07:27:39 AM
but not how many states are in his own country: good. ^_____^
He knows how many states there are. It was an error after, how many days of campaigning nonstop(unlike McCain who tries to take a break, conveniently before a debate). He had visited 47 States. We have 50. It was an error that was simple to make.
And then you have Biden and Palin, the latter of whom lacks any knowledge of American history.
Quote11. Are you offended by the phrase “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?...
...SP: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.
http://web.archive.org/web/20070501192322/http://eagleforumalaska.blogspot.com/2006/07/2006-gubernatorial-candidate.html
Our founding fathers? That's incredible since the Pledge of Allegiance wasn't written until the 1890s and "Under God" hasn't even been in the pledge for 60 years(added in the 1950's). THAT IS A GREAT PERSON TO HAVE IN THE SECOND HIGHEST POSITION OF POWER.
Quote from: Mary Warren on November 01, 2008, 07:27:39 AM
but not how many states are in his own country: good. ^_____^
since when doesn't he know the number; he misspoke once doodhuh;
Quote from: Mary Warren on November 01, 2008, 07:22:55 AM
oh yes, sure, let's have a shitty public speaker to represent and be president of our country. he probably won't be talking to any foreign countries or anything, and...that won't embarrass us one bit. ^_________^
are we talking about obama or mccain now @____@
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 01, 2008, 07:46:55 AM
since when doesn't he know the number; he misspoke once doodhuh;
are we talking about obama or mccain now @____@
y did u putt elispise in dere mistur
Quote from: Kewn on November 01, 2008, 07:44:25 AM
He knows how many states there are. It was an error after, how many days of campaigning nonstop(unlike McCain who tries to take a break, conveniently before a debate). He had visited 47 States. We have 50. It was an error that was simple to make.
well im glad. im glad that someone who hasn't even fulfilled a full term in the senate, yet is running for president, knows how many states there are. im proud of him. ^___________^
my god det, you would shut the fuck up if you know what's good for you
but apparently you don't, so please continue
Quote from: Nefarious Nyerp on November 01, 2008, 08:04:54 AM
my god det, you would shut the fuck up if you know what's good for you
but apparently you don't, so please continue
my god nyerp, you wouldn't fucking eat so much and be so fucking fat if you knew what's good for you
but apparently you don't, so please continue
Quote from: Mary Warren on November 01, 2008, 08:07:17 AM
my god nyerp, you wouldn't fucking eat so much and be so fucking fat if you knew what's good for you
but apparently you don't, so please continue
that had everything to do with this discussion
yay for petty insults! ^____^
Quote from: Nefarious Nyerp on November 01, 2008, 08:09:15 AM
that had everything to do with this discussion
yay for petty insults! ^____^
hey are you done talking about nothing important yet
Quote from: Mary Warren on November 01, 2008, 08:10:41 AM
hey are you done talking about nothing important yet
hey are you done trying to use the same argument over and over again and not realizing when people have cornered you yet
Quote from: Nefarious Nyerp on November 01, 2008, 08:12:19 AM
hey are you done trying to use the same argument over and over again and not realizing when people have cornered you yet
hey are you done not making any fucking sense and whining about kaz and everything else here yet
Quote from: Mary Warren on November 01, 2008, 08:13:30 AM
hey are you done not making any fucking sense and whining about kaz and everything else here yet
nope, but thanks for asking ^___^
Quote from: Mary Warren on November 01, 2008, 07:58:58 AMwell im glad. im glad that someone who hasn't even fulfilled a full term in the senate, yet is running for president, knows how many states there are. im proud of him. ^___________^
learly knows how many states there are.
His exact quote:
"I've now been to to 5....7 states, I've got 1 left to go. 1 Left to go, Alaska and Hawaii I was not allowed to go to, but though I really wanted to visit but my staff could not justify it."
1)He doesn't think there are 57 states.
2)It should be clear what he meant. He first was thinking of 50 states, and then stopped to subtract without correcting himself and got the 7 of 47. doodthing;
You can have the guy who made a mistake with math, after working nonstop for months, or the guy who:
-Claimed Putin was Germany's President
-Cannot say if Spain is an enemy nor where it is located. As well as not knowing who Spain's president is, he said Zapatero, Spain's PM, was the President of Spain.
-Sings about bombing other countries
I think we'd have to be more worried about starting a war by offending our allies, antagonizing countries, not having a clue where the countries are, than someone making a small error.
Other than him being black and a 'super secret rofl conspiracy tinfoil hat muslim' what is a reason you don't support him and support McCain?
Taxes? Yes, Obama's taxes are higher for the richer people, but the less wealthy have lower taxes. The overall tax shift is higher All in all, the Democrats who "tax more" are better (http://currencythoughts.com/2008/08/19/how-the-us-economy-performed-under-democrat-and-republican-presidents/) for the economy. (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/18/IN5C13H0J5.DTL)
Abortion? If someone rapes you, do you really want to suffer for 9 months keeping that child? What if it was a family member who raped you? What if you found the child had a disease that would give it a painful and short life? What if it held health risks? Good luck with that under McCain
War? It's been established that we were lead into the war on false information, without the go ahead from the UN. We found to WMDs, Hussein Offered to go into exile for $1 Billion(read, a small fraction to the money we spent, and an non-comparable value compared to the thousands of lives lost) (http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/3178), the number of people who support the war is low(less than 30 percent a year or two ago, probably lower now), and we accomplished the "goal"(depending on which one you belive since Bush changed it a few times) and Iraq's leader said he wanted us out, why are you occupying them?
Technology? Net Neutrality vs OH GOD HOW DID THIS GET HERE I AM NOT GOOD WITH COMPUTER. Obama supports regaining our competitiveness in technology (It is a bit sad that we're nowhere near the top in internet speeds, yet our prices are). McCain's technology policy isn't even a policy.
So what is the reason for supporting McCain over Obama other than OMG BLACK PRESIDENT WILL GET SHOT xD and Jesus wants you to* ;)
*wait wut Jesus' views were closer to obamas with the whole taxes and social services thing, but OBAMA IS A SECRET MUSLIM AND MCCAIN HAS PALIN WHO LOVES JESUS SO MUCH THAT HER DAUGHTER WASN'T ALLOWED TO USE A CONDOM VOTE FOR MCCAIN.
Really what is the reason?
det can't even vote, can she doodhuh;
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 01, 2008, 08:55:02 AM
det can't even vote, can she doodhuh;
No, but she still support McCain and I can't see a legit reason.
lawl i hope you didn't spend from 11:02 - 11:56 typing that, because i ignored all of it.
Quote from: Mary Warren on November 01, 2008, 09:00:39 AM
lawl i hope you didn't spend from 11:02 - 11:56 typing that, because i ignored all of it.
because I'm right and/or you have no reason to support McCain other than Mommy and Daddy? bassir;
Quote from: Kewn on November 01, 2008, 09:09:08 AM
because I'm right and/or you have no reason to support McCain other than Mommy and Daddy? bassir;
bahahahahahahahah
yes jmv
you are god
GOD
you are always right, obama is going to win and do our country complete justice.
what the hell is wrong with me, why would i ever defy the views of james valente?
ill save him some trouble and never talk to him again, im obviously not worthy. :(
also ps, at least i have a mommy and daddy that love me and don't leave me and throw me out of their houses. ;)
Quote from: Mary Warren on November 01, 2008, 09:11:59 AM
bahahahahahahahah
yes jmv
you are god
GOD
you are always right, obama is going to win and do our country complete justice.
what the hell is wrong with me, why would i ever defy the views of james valente?
ill save him some trouble and never talk to him again, im obviously not worthy. :(
also ps, at least i have a mommy and daddy that love me and don't leave me and throw me out of their houses. ;)
Or you can say why instead of ignoring the post. It's pretty ignorant instead of just answering a question. doodhuh;
Or was I right and you have no reason other than what you parents say?
Quote from: Mary Warren on November 01, 2008, 09:00:39 AM
lawl i hope you didn't spend from 11:02 - 11:56 typing that, because i ignored all of it.
you sure showed him n_u
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 01, 2008, 09:18:41 AM
you sure showed him n_u
fight the power of liberals and their posts of citations.
Quote from: Kewn on November 01, 2008, 09:09:08 AM
because I'm right and/or you have no reason to support McCain other than Mommy and Daddy? bassir;
Jmv you really need to stop, you're being ridiculous. DEt has every right to support Mccain and you cant force obama in her face because theres "no reason" to like people like Mccain. People can support whoever they want to and its not your reason on earth to tell them that if they dont like the one you like then they're not smart for liking their choice. i support the person regardless of who they like, but one thing i hate is when people go and act like a jerk and preach all about their choice, its like searching for reasons to argue with people.
baddood;
person 1: so who are you supporting?
person 2: well i like mccain
person 1: OMG WHY DO YOU LIKE MCCAIN, HES OLD YOU'RE SUPPOST TO LIKE OBAMA LIKE ME BECAUSE OBAMA IS KEWLZIES OMG OMG ASS ASS ASS YOU CANT LIKE MCCAIN BECAUSE THERES NO REASON TO LIKE HIM LASNFLKASNLFKASBGFLKASFLKAS
Quote from: Kewn on November 01, 2008, 09:13:23 AM
Or you can say why instead of ignoring the post. It's pretty ignorant instead of just answering a question. doodhuh;
Or was I right and you have no reason other than what you parents say?
i was never i aware i said who my parents supported. stop trying to pull that card, bud. n_u
and im not even going to bother saying 26 years of being in the senate vs. 6, which means half the time obama has been in the senate, he's been running for president. he hasn't accomplished anything as a politician, there's absolutely nothing that stands out about him besides his skin color, is basically going to steal from the rich and give to the poor, has outright said he's going to raise taxes, and has no money to pay for 'universal health care' (and those are just the basics), because i know if i do it's going to be like "FJDLKAJGLDKSGJKDSAGJASGLS HEY IM LIBERAL IM ALWAYS RIGHT YOURE WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG." im not going to waste my time with that shit. so don't expect another reply from me about this and think im cowering at my desk because i have no legitmate reason to support mccain.
Quote from: Mary Warren on November 01, 2008, 09:23:10 AM
...has outright said he's going to raise taxes, and has no money to pay for 'universal health care'...
this makes little sense doodthing;
for one, if he raises taxes as you claim, could that not be used to pay for 'universal health care'
Quote from: Mary Warren on November 01, 2008, 09:23:10 AM
...is basically going to steal from the rich and give to the poor...
uh we've already got a progressive tax system and have had one for a very very long time
mccain used to be a fan of it, too (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/mccain-in-2000.html)
Quote from: Wulphe on November 01, 2008, 09:22:10 AM
person 1: so who are you supporting?
person 2: well i like mccain
person 1: OMG WHY DO YOU LIKE MCCAIN, HES OLD YOU'RE SUPPOST TO LIKE OBAMA LIKE ME BECAUSE OBAMA IS KEWLZIES OMG OMG ASS ASS ASS YOU CANT LIKE MCCAIN BECAUSE THERES NO REASON TO LIKE HIM LASNFLKASNLFKASBGFLKASFLKAS
det: i don't like the nigger
jmv: why not
det: because
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 01, 2008, 09:36:45 AM
jmv: why not
det: because
wow, exactly what im talking about.
you fucking debated my reasons and you still just said i didn't have any.
you guys are really pieces of work.
guys just get over it. I like Mccain, and i dont like obama because my sister likes him and kinda because hes oh umm well maybe just a teensy bit black. The only reason i owuld like him is because people would consider me a racist if i didnt.
Quote from: Mary Warren on November 01, 2008, 09:40:55 AM
wow, exactly what im talking about.
you fucking debated my reasons and you still just said i didn't have any.
you guys are really pieces of work.
the point was that it took you that long to actually provide any reasons
Quote from: Wulphe on November 01, 2008, 09:45:05 AM
guys just get over it. I like Mccain, and i dont like obama because my sister likes him and kinda because hes oh umm well maybe just a teensy bit black. The only reason i owuld like him is because people would consider me a racist if i didnt.
you're really helping your side, you know n_u
Quote from: Wulphe on November 01, 2008, 09:22:10 AM
Jmv you really need to stop, you're being ridiculous. DEt has every right to support Mccain and you cant force obama in her face because theres "no reason" to like people like Mccain.
You should have a reason to support a politician, dumbass. This isn't American idol whre you go OMG SANJAYA IS SO SILLY VOTE FOR HIM
QuotePeople can support whoever they want to and its not your reason on earth to tell them that if they dont like the one you like then they're not smart for liking their choice.
I clearly insulted Det and said she wasn't smart.
doodhuh;
Quotei support the person regardless of who they like,
What
Quotebut one thing i hate is when people go and act like a jerk and preach all about their choice, its like searching for reasons to argue with people.
You mean Christian evangelists?
Quote from: Mary Warren on November 01, 2008, 09:23:10 AM
i was never i aware i said who my parents supported. stop trying to pull that card, bud. n_u
And they do, don't they?
Quoteand im not even going to bother saying 26 years of being in the senate vs. 6, which means half the time obama has been in the senate, he's been running for president.
And look at their VPs. Biden's been on the senate even longer, and Palin...no experience as senator. Her highest position of power is 2 years as governor of the 3rd least populous state.
Quotehe hasn't accomplished anything as a politician,
He secured the Democratic nomination. He (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deceptive_Practices_and_Voter_Intimidation_Prevention_Act) sure did nothing[url]
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bills_sponsored_by_Barack_Obama_in_the_United_States_Senate)
Quotethere's absolutely nothing that stands out about him besides his skin color,
hey isnt mccain's vp a woman, clearly this is a different situation and you should vote for him.
Quoteis basically going to steal from the rich and give to the poor, has outright said he's going to raise taxes,
On people who make more than $250,000 dollars per year. Taxing isn't stealing, and he's not giving it to the poor. He's giving it to the american citizens. Putting the money into schools, healthcare, social programs, and such helps everyone. It improves the overall wealth of the population. The rich can still buy an extra porsche, they might just have to wait an extra month for that suede seating. And as I cited before, the higher taxes generalized by Democratic presidents is better for the economy. What's better for the economy is better for the people of the country.
Quoteand has no money to pay for 'universal health care' (and those are just the basics),
wut about those evil taxes
Quote
because i know if i do it's going to be like "FJDLKAJGLDKSGJKDSAGJASGLS HEY IM LIBERAL IM ALWAYS RIGHT YOURE WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG." im not going to waste my time with that shit. so don't expect another reply from me about this and think im cowering at my desk because i have no legitmate reason to support mccain.
or you could just provide reasons instead of going "rofl i ignored your post n_u "
Quote from: Wulphe on November 01, 2008, 09:45:05 AM
guys just get over it. I like Mccain, and i dont like obama because my sister likes him and kinda because hes oh umm well maybe just a teensy bit black. The only reason i owuld like him is because people would consider me a racist if i didnt.
well that's too bad because you're fucking racist doodthing;
Quote from: Wulphe on November 01, 2008, 09:45:05 AM
guys just get over it. I like Mccain, and i dont like obama because my sister likes him
I used to like this band but now this girl in my school likes it so I stopped listening. giggle;
Quoteand kinda because hes oh umm well maybe just a teensy bit black.
he's also a teensy bit white. :O
But you're right, we can't let the dark ones into office, they might do something like have pigment in their skin. Only (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi) the White People (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLK) are respectable. Them Damn blacks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler) are horrible, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin) horrible people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon). Damn blacksand their crime.
QuoteThe only reason i owuld like him is because people would consider me a racist if i didnt.
They might think im gay if I sit next to the gay kid in class xD
JMV stop, you're really being an ass. you realize you're sitting at your computer arguing with two minors (who cant vote) telling them they cant support someone because they dont have a reason. Its not worth it really.
Quote from: Wulphe on November 01, 2008, 10:17:50 AM
Its not worth it really.
it's not costing me anything bassir;
watch out for black people
Quote from: Wulphe on November 01, 2008, 10:17:50 AM
JMV stop, you're really being an ass.
You mean a logical individual who uses statistics, sources, and facts to back up a statement? If that's being an ass then economists, scientists, and those who value the truth over comforting misrepresentations are some of the biggest douchebags ever. YOU HEAR ME EINSTEIN? YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE. SAME TO YOU NEWTON.
Quoteyou realize you're sitting at your computer arguing with two minors
Who should get a grasp on what politics are about. You don't pick and support a politician because what they look like, their personality, who else likes them, and to be a rofl rebel xD. Democracy is about voting for the candidate who best represents your views and interests(none of which either of you supplied in support of McCain). It's not like high school where the class president has no real power over organizing a fund raiser to raise money for prom and the cool thing to do is vote for your friend or that kid who threw a dead frog in biology and it was hilarious. Voting for someone with no actual reason can be a huge mistake. It can cost people their lives, jobs, health, and future.
Quote(who cant vote)
Thank Atheos.
Quotetelling them they cant support someone because they dont have a reason.
If you don't have a reason, other than keeping a black out of office and spiting your sister then don't vote. doodhuh;
QuoteIts not worth it really.
Neither is screwing over a nation because of bigotry and spite.
Why do Det and Wulphe even come to the serious discussion board if their logic is driven by "I'd vote for whoever my sister doesn't like lawl"
Quote from: Kewn on November 01, 2008, 10:45:42 AM
You mean a logical individual who uses statistics, sources, and facts to back up a statement? If that's being an ass then economists, scientists, and those who value the truth over comforting misrepresentations are some of the biggest douchebags ever. YOU HEAR ME EINSTEIN? YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE. SAME TO YOU NEWTON.
no, actually, im talking about a depressed 19 year old who does nothing other than sit at his computer all day because he doesnt go hang out with people due to his anxiety. The same person who was sent to a mental institution because hes stupid enough to try to overdose on depression and anxiety pills. this person arrived to this said institution just to write like a serial killer about a girl who doesnt love him at which point when he came back and did nothing but say snotty things about this girl. a person who does nothing but think hes cool because a pretty girl talked to him and called him a certain animal which he'll go to any length to be some form of it. this scrawny person who thinks hes incredible because he runs a forum. THAT PERSON
Quote from: Kewn on November 01, 2008, 10:45:42 AM
\ Who should get a grasp on what politics are about. You don't pick and support a politician because what they look like, their personality, who else likes them, and to be a rofl rebel xD. Democracy is about voting for the candidate who best represents your views and interests(none of which either of you supplied in support of McCain). It's not like high school where the class president has no real power over organizing a fund raiser to raise money for prom and the cool thing to do is vote for your friend or that kid who threw a dead frog in biology and it was hilarious. Voting for someone with no actual reason can be a huge mistake. It can cost people their lives, jobs, health, and future.
whats funny is that you seem to forget that image is everything these days. people are going to vote for obama because hes black. women might vote for mccain because he has a woman as a vp. Although you might overlook image because no one cares about yours ;]
Quote from: Kewn on November 01, 2008, 10:45:42 AM
If you don't have a reason, other than keeping a black out of office and spiting your sister then don't vote.
i do have a reason, can you name a good african american governmental leader we've had(in america). I mean the only one i have to go off of is Kwame kilpatrick who, um, got sent to jail i believe. so clearly im a racist because i dont want a black leader when i've already seen another black leader make some pretty bad decisions
Quote from: Wulphe on November 01, 2008, 11:30:44 AM
i do have a reason, can you name a good african american leader we've had. I mean the only one i have to go off of is Kwame kilpatrick who, um, got sent to jail i believe. so clearly im a racist because i dont want a black leader when i've already seen another black leader make some pretty bad decisions
clearly, kwame's scandal was the sole result of him being black
Quote from: Wulphe on November 01, 2008, 11:30:44 AM
whats funny is that you seem to forget that image is everything these days. people are going to vote for obama because hes black. women might vote for mccain because he has a woman as a vp. Although you might overlook image because no one cares about yours ;]
Where do you get your political information from? People?
i do have a reason, can you name a good african american governmental leader we've had(in america). I mean the only one i have to go off of is Kwame kilpatrick who, um, got sent to jail i believe. so clearly im a racist because i dont want a black leader when i've already seen another black leader make some pretty bad decisions
George Bush is white, don't vote for McCain
Quote from: Wulphe on November 01, 2008, 11:30:44 AM
no, actually, im talking about a depressed 19 year old who does nothing other than sit at his computer all day because he doesnt go hang out with people due to his anxiety. The same person who was sent to a mental institution because hes stupid enough to try to overdose on depression and anxiety pills. this person arrived to this said institution just to write like a serial killer about a girl who doesnt love him at which point when he came back and did nothing but say snotty things about this girl. a person who does nothing but think hes cool because a pretty girl talked to him and called him a certain animal which he'll go to any length to be some form of it. this scrawny person who thinks hes incredible because he runs a forum. THAT PERSON
Oh wow. You're way out of line, Junior. Attacking someone's personal life in a political debate? Enjoy your ban, because that was some Grade A hurtful stuff and I'd be pissed if I was JMV.
Quote from: Wulphe on November 01, 2008, 11:30:44 AM
no, actually, im talking about a depressed 19 year old who does nothing other than sit at his computer all day because he doesnt go hang out with people due to his anxiety.
Because Medical Diagnosis of several disorders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_phobia) has so much to do with political arguments (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avoidant_personality_disorder)
QuoteThe same person who was sent to a mental institution because hes stupid enough to try to overdose on depression and anxiety pills.
I don't get what you mean by "try", either I did or I didn't. If you are talking about suicide, no. I knew the lethal dosage and I made sure I didn't go near it. If you are talking about just taking 7 times the dosage, then it wasn't a try. I did it. And they're antidepressants. not 'depression and anxiety pills'.
Quotethis person arrived to this said institution just to write like a serial killer
yes it clearly sounded like a serial killer. I was like "omg I have a shrine of her ;)
Quoteabout a girl who doesnt love him
wait until det finds out she's heterosexual. :O
Quoteat which point when he came back and did nothing but say snotty things about this girl
oh wow, cool..
Quotea person who does nothing but think hes cool because a pretty girl talked to him and called him a certain animal which he'll go to any length to be some form of it.
clearly that "depression" from earlier and "thinking I'm cool" are somehow co-existent. now only if you understood the depth of my self esteem issues.
Quotethis scrawny person who thinks hes incredible because he runs a forum. THAT PERSON
And you're obese. bassir;
Quotewhats funny is that you seem to forget that image is everything these days.
So that makes it right?
Everyone else is doing it so why don't I?
Quotepeople are going to vote for obama because hes black. women might vote for mccain because he has a woman as a vp.
And your vote should be affected because of that?
QuoteAlthough you might overlook image because no one cares about yours ;]
What? Although I'm annoyed with Det, I don't think she's stupid. However you're being a complete dumbass.
Quotei do have a reason, can you name a good african american leader we've had.
You're a fucking retard. Get the hell out of Serious Discussion. Racism has no place in politics. If you're talking about "leaders" , MLK was one of the greatest Americans to live. If you're talking about leaders in a political sense. Thurgood Marshall. We haven't had many black leaders, so it's kind of hard to pick one.
QuoteI mean the only one i have to go off of is Kwame kilpatrick who, um, got sent to jail i believe. so clearly im a racist because i dont want a black leader when i've already seen another black leader make some pretty bad decisions
Because Ted Haggard, Eliot Spitzer, Bob Packwood, Ted Stevens, Richard Nixon, and plenty of other white politicians had their problems.
But yeah, go ahead and base your attacks on my personal problems and racism.
nice job wulphe goonish
also det about obama's little slip-up
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holy shits mccain called us all prisoners he's an idiot and doesn't deserve to be president :(
Also, I was unaware that we had any racists here.
dark skin=automatic idiot befuddlement
is det banned too please tell me she was banned as well
anyway, how close do you think this election would be
Quote from: Detonator on November 01, 2008, 07:22:55 AM
or that the phrase '57 states' shouldn't even cross his mind in the first place.
oh yes, sure, let's have a shitty public speaker to represent and be president of our country. he probably won't be talking to any foreign countries or anything, and when he says '57 states' again, that won't embarrass us one bit. ^_________^
Please, please tell me you don't like Bush.
Quote from: Wulphe on November 01, 2008, 11:30:44 AM
no, actually, im talking about a depressed 19 year old who does nothing other than sit at his computer all day because he doesnt go hang out with people due to his anxiety. The same person who was sent to a mental institution because hes stupid enough to try to overdose on depression and anxiety pills. this person arrived to this said institution just to write like a serial killer about a girl who doesnt love him at which point when he came back and did nothing but say snotty things about this girl. a person who does nothing but think hes cool because a pretty girl talked to him and called him a certain animal which he'll go to any length to be some form of it. this scrawny person who thinks hes incredible because he runs a forum. THAT PERSON
whats funny is that you seem to forget that image is everything these days. people are going to vote for obama because hes black. women might vote for mccain because he has a woman as a vp. Although you might overlook image because no one cares about yours ;]
i do have a reason, can you name a good african american governmental leader we've had(in america). I mean the only one i have to go off of is Kwame kilpatrick who, um, got sent to jail i believe. so clearly im a racist because i dont want a black leader when i've already seen another black leader make some pretty bad decisions
white pride world wide
i don't know what tyler's talking about, kwame kilpatrick is the best thing that happened to this city >:(
Quote from: joeinc on November 02, 2008, 01:18:01 PM
white pride world wide
we must not oppose the aryan race. it shall rule the thousand year reich. Reichdood;
wait until he learns about the punic wars and the mixing of the north africans and the southern party of italy and sicily. i guess that makes det and i bad people since we're from that part of italy and all black, even half and less are horrible horrible monsters who cannot be trusted.
giggle;
ps i have a black cousin fuck you ;-;
Quote from: Kewn on November 02, 2008, 05:40:14 PM
we must not oppose the aryan race. it shall rule the thousand year reich. Reichdood;
wait until he learns about the punic wars and the mixing of the north africans and the southern party of italy and sicily. i guess that makes det and i bad people since we're from that part of italy and all black, even half and less are horrible horrible monsters who cannot be trusted.
giggle;
ps i have a black cousin fuck you ;-;
i was joking bro
Quote from: joeinc on November 02, 2008, 07:34:51 PM
i was joking bro
i wasn't saying fuck you to you giggle;
DEAR PEOPLE WHO WON'T VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE OF HIS LACK OF EXPERIENCE?
[URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln]DOES THIS MEAN YOU WOULDN'T VOTE FOR THIS MAN?[/URL]
Quote from: Kewn on November 03, 2008, 09:32:14 PM
DEAR PEOPLE WHO WON'T VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE OF HIS LACK OF EXPERIENCE?
[URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln]DOES THIS MEAN YOU WOULDN'T VOTE FOR THIS MAN?[/URL]
I bet Det wouldn't vote for no nig
ger lover.
Quote from: Houdini on November 03, 2008, 10:00:30 PM
I bet Det wouldn't vote for no nigger lover.
Lincoln wasn't necessarily an abolitionist. doodthing;
Quote from: he on November 04, 2008, 05:26:08 AM
Lincoln wasn't necessarily an abolitionist. doodthing;
he still passed that emancipatin proclamation, that might count for something
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FUCK YEAH OBAMA
WOOO OBAMA