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Title: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on March 19, 2017, 05:00:53 PM
Discuss either Nier, if you played it or plan to, and Nier Automata if you are playing it.

TAG YOUR SPOILERS GODDAMMIT
Title: Re: Recently purchased, played & beaten
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on March 19, 2017, 05:04:53 PM
mild interest, more like curiosity about its relation to automata lol

if i end up truly loving automata enough, i might go back and play the original, but i'm not going to make the original a priority when automata isn't directly connected to it and is universally agreed to be a simply better game
Title: Re: Recently purchased, played & beaten
Post by: TooB on March 19, 2017, 05:09:49 PM
Quote from: Tectron on March 19, 2017, 05:04:53 PM
mild interest, more like curiosity about its relation to automata lol

if i end up truly loving automata enough, i might go back and play the original, but i'm not going to make the original a priority when automata isn't directly connected to it and is universally agreed to be a simply better game
yeah, they say you can play automata completely seperate.

I've completed one playthrough, and so far, nothing really connects the 2 aside from a few returning characters that don't really do anything (yet). But if you were familiar with Yoko Taro games, there IS an explanation on why.

yes, original nier is clunky, is dragged out by fetch quests and backtracking, but is still so worth it (if you are able to work with the game and it's issues). I know a lot of people say that about many games ("look past it's flaws, and it's great") but that is like, the epitome of Nier. It's so worth it, I think.

I bet after I get all the main endings in Nier Automata, there's probably a bigger connection to Nier later
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on March 19, 2017, 05:11:09 PM
Quote from: Tectron on March 19, 2017, 05:04:53 PM
mild interest, more like curiosity about its relation to automata lol

if i end up truly loving automata enough, i might go back and play the original, but i'm not going to make the original a priority when automata isn't directly connected to it and is universally agreed to be a simply better game
I still really want Kaz to play Nier, especially because he was about to while I was on vacation, and never did.
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Thyme on March 19, 2017, 06:22:37 PM
idk it's on my amazon wishlist lol
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Commander Fuckass on March 20, 2017, 04:56:49 AM
I've been playing it, and I love it. So far it's my GOTY (might even stay GOTY since there arent many games coming out this year that peak my interest outside of Persona 5 and Fire Emblem Echoes)

I love that it combines multiple genres into one. [spoiler]especially the shootem up parts[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on March 20, 2017, 08:18:53 AM
Dp...

[spoiler]  I love the shoot em up parts. They were sort of there in the original, but I love that they ran with it here. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on March 20, 2017, 06:19:17 PM
2nd playthrough completed. One more, and I should be able to get all remaining main endings.
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: C.Mongler on March 21, 2017, 12:00:10 PM
i will probs pick this up when i get paid at the end of this month
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on March 21, 2017, 11:24:07 PM
Best ending is K :)
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on March 22, 2017, 05:56:46 PM
Ok, play through 3 and ending c obtained.

Now it's just cleanup, and the other two endings!

The last fight is amazing. It's so heavy. I swear, this game is 10/10 for me
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on March 25, 2017, 11:14:15 PM
Lol, I just got followed on my Twitter by the voice of 2b

I have no idea why
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: strongbad on March 27, 2017, 06:28:46 PM
Had no idea or interest in this game and then I watched dunkeys vid and now I rly want it :(
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: C.Mongler on March 28, 2017, 05:11:01 AM
only

two

more

daaaaays


unless i get persona 5 instead lol
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: YPrrrr on March 29, 2017, 09:09:55 AM
Quote from: antmaster5000 on March 27, 2017, 06:28:46 PM
Had no idea or interest in this game and then I watched dunkeys vid and now I rly want it :(
Really? I was pretty sure I didn't want it and then saw that video and opinion was intensified.

Then again dunkey is just a goof so I probably shouldn't rely too heavily on that girl;
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Thyme on March 29, 2017, 09:18:24 AM
well his vid on andromeda certainly solidified my opinion about it

not to mention crowbcat's awdood;
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Thyme on March 29, 2017, 09:19:22 AM
also i suspect crowbcat to be tec tbh
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: YPrrrr on March 29, 2017, 09:36:55 AM
Quote from: Thyme on March 29, 2017, 09:18:24 AM
well his vid on andromeda certainly solidified my opinion about it

not to mention crowbcat's awdood;
Yknow it's weird because I'm playing andromeda and I completely agreed with all of his points yet I can't stop playing it even though it's like a worse version of 2 and 3 confuseddood;
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on March 29, 2017, 10:15:54 AM
Keep Andromeda out of my Nier thread.
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: YPrrrr on March 29, 2017, 10:24:28 AM
Don't be a prude
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on March 29, 2017, 10:30:10 AM
Quote from: YPargh on March 29, 2017, 10:24:28 AM
Don't be a prude
lol

It's unfortunate that MEA and Nier are constantly compared to each other because they came out close together, but at least Nier came out on top
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: strongbad on March 29, 2017, 10:55:34 AM
Quote from: YPargh on March 29, 2017, 09:09:55 AM
Quote from: antmaster5000 on March 27, 2017, 06:28:46 PM
Had no idea or interest in this game and then I watched dunkeys vid and now I rly want it :(
Really? I was pretty sure I didn't want it and then saw that video and opinion was intensified.

Then again dunkey is just a goof so I probably shouldn't rely too heavily on that girl;

Lol I can see that too

The Andromeda vid was so good
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Travis on April 01, 2017, 02:51:57 PM
this is a great game
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Commander Fuckass on April 02, 2017, 11:06:50 AM
Quote from: Big Goop on March 29, 2017, 10:30:10 AM
Quote from: YPargh on March 29, 2017, 10:24:28 AM
Don't be a prude
lol

It's unfortunate that MEA and Nier are constantly compared to each other because they came out close together, but at least Nier came out on top
literally no one is comparing the two though????
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on April 02, 2017, 01:29:25 PM
Quote from: Commander Fuckass on April 02, 2017, 11:06:50 AM
Quote from: Big Goop on March 29, 2017, 10:30:10 AM
Quote from: YPargh on March 29, 2017, 10:24:28 AM
Don't be a prude
lol

It's unfortunate that MEA and Nier are constantly compared to each other because they came out close together, but at least Nier came out on top
literally no one is comparing the two though????
except that they are. Not directly or anything, but since they released closely, everybody's like, get nier, not ME.
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Samus Aran on April 02, 2017, 06:10:15 PM
i mean if you have to choose between them, Nier is probably the right choice
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on April 02, 2017, 07:48:43 PM
Quote from: Shinobu Oshino on April 02, 2017, 06:10:15 PM
i mean if you have to choose between them, Nier is probably the right choice
fuck yeah it is
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on April 26, 2017, 02:39:35 AM
They... sure poured a lot of love into hand-crafting 2B's T H I C C, 300lb silicone FAT robot booty, huh?

don't think i haven't noticed
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on April 26, 2017, 11:11:22 AM
Everybody has noticed. Everything about character build and movement is fantastic
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on April 26, 2017, 09:01:59 PM
i will very soon
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on May 05, 2017, 12:13:15 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/1baeLQL.jpg)

All done.
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 15, 2017, 04:43:27 PM
WAIT THERE'S THAT MANY ENDINGS?
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on June 15, 2017, 04:52:35 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on June 15, 2017, 04:43:27 PM
WAIT THERE'S THAT MANY ENDINGS?
yes, but f-z are all joke endings. You get them by essentially doing stuff you aren't supposed to do.

Only a-e are real endings, and you can get d and e like, immediately after c.
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 15, 2017, 04:58:09 PM
oh

you know what i really like about this game? how pretty much all sidequest objectives are marked on the map, or are at least narrowed down to small circular ranges to investigate

[glow=black,2,300]except for that sidequest where you have to use your dinky little scanner to find 4 hidden objects in the desert, fuck that one[/glow]
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 15, 2017, 05:04:18 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on June 15, 2017, 04:58:09 PM
you know what i really like about this game? how pretty much all sidequest objectives are marked on the map, or are at least narrowed down to small circular ranges to investigate


thank god

i like it when games respect the player's time too
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on June 15, 2017, 05:16:25 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on June 15, 2017, 04:58:09 PM
oh

you know what i really like about this game? how pretty much all sidequest objectives are marked on the map, or are at least narrowed down to small circular ranges to investigate

[glow=black,2,300]except for that sidequest where you have to use your dinky little scanner to find 4 hidden objects in the desert, fuck that one[/glow]
yeah, that was rough
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 16, 2017, 02:50:56 PM
is it just me or is this game really unstable on ps4? :(

i hope it's not the fact that i have it installed on an external hdd
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on June 16, 2017, 02:51:53 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on June 16, 2017, 02:50:56 PM
is it just me or is this game really unstable on ps4? :(

i hope it's not the fact that i have it installed on an external hdd
uuh, what do you mean? Cause I didn't notice any issues?
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 16, 2017, 04:26:21 PM
tons of stuttering and awful pop-in in the city ruins, couple of crashes
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on June 16, 2017, 04:31:46 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on June 16, 2017, 04:26:21 PM
tons of stuttering and awful pop-in in the city ruins, couple of crashes
hmm... I think it might be cause of what you said, installed on an external drive....

I've only noticed very minor slowdown, very rarely. And one crash that happened.
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 16, 2017, 04:33:12 PM
so i guess playing games off an external drive is a bad idea and i didn't really extend my storage space at all? FUCK
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 17, 2017, 10:59:53 AM
it depends on the hard drive, really

what are you using externally

is the internal drive the original
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 17, 2017, 11:06:54 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on June 17, 2017, 10:59:53 AM
it depends on the hard drive, really

what are you using externally

is the internal drive the original

WD elements 1 TB

yes
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 17, 2017, 11:10:57 AM
do you have an exact model number or product page for the external drive lol
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on June 17, 2017, 11:13:02 AM
Quote from: Nyerp on June 16, 2017, 04:33:12 PM
so i guess playing games off an external drive is a bad idea and i didn't really extend my storage space at all? FUCK
I'm guessing, if anything, that since the ps4 didn't really support external originally, maybe they still have to work out a few kinks?
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 17, 2017, 12:50:20 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on June 17, 2017, 11:10:57 AM
do you have an exact model number or product page for the external drive lol

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CRZ2PRM/
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 17, 2017, 01:06:16 PM
so you're on a usb 3.0 connection, which is actually faster than sata 2.0, and the drive itself isn't any slower than the internal one

hmmm'st

do you have difficulties in any particular areas other than the city ruins lol
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on June 17, 2017, 01:15:20 PM
I think you're actually fine nyerp.

Apparently there's many reports of slowdown and such while just exploring.

I don't actually think it's your hdd

I guess I'm just less noticing on things like that
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 17, 2017, 03:16:52 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on June 17, 2017, 01:06:16 PM
so you're on a usb 3.0 connection, which is actually faster than sata 2.0, and the drive itself isn't any slower than the internal one

hmmm'st

do you have difficulties in any particular areas other than the city ruins lol


there's a couple of other problem areas, but i think it's just the game and i'm overreacting lol. thanks guys

[spoiler=game spoilers]i'm glad kaine's theme made it into the game somehow. although not kaine herself. :(

so i guess whichever character didn't die in endings C/D of nier was massacred by aliens? or did they even live long enough to experience the alien invasion? i'm not sure how the characters in nier age since yonah and i think nier himself (in the japanese version) seem to visibly age as the game progresses, even though they're essentially androids who have been around since the inception of project gestalt. idk i just hope they didn't get killed by the weak little machines because that's lame[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 17, 2017, 03:21:16 PM
having looked it up, yeah, i doubt the issue is on your end

sadly the game just happens to have its own set of blighttowns

the city ruins are bad even on pc
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on June 17, 2017, 03:48:40 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on June 17, 2017, 03:16:52 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on June 17, 2017, 01:06:16 PM
so you're on a usb 3.0 connection, which is actually faster than sata 2.0, and the drive itself isn't any slower than the internal one

hmmm'st

do you have difficulties in any particular areas other than the city ruins lol


there's a couple of other problem areas, but i think it's just the game and i'm overreacting lol. thanks guys

[spoiler=game spoilers]i'm glad kaine's theme made it into the game somehow. although not kaine herself. :(

so i guess whichever character didn't die in endings C/D of nier was massacred by aliens? or did they even live long enough to experience the alien invasion? i'm not sure how the characters in nier age since yonah and i think nier himself (in the japanese version) seem to visibly age as the game progresses, even though they're essentially androids who have been around since the inception of project gestalt. idk i just hope they didn't get killed by the weak little machines because that's lame[/spoiler]

to Nyerp
[spoiler]I can sort of answer that, but I can't remember if Emil tells you when you find his secret place.

I know he explains it at some point [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on June 17, 2017, 03:51:43 PM
Also, I'm guessing that means you did his first sidequest then right?
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 17, 2017, 04:53:43 PM
i did the one where you find all the lunar tears
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on June 17, 2017, 05:17:40 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on June 17, 2017, 04:53:43 PM
i did the one where you find all the lunar tears
yeah. I think it's when you do another one, that leads to a superboss, where it gets explained
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 17, 2017, 05:46:24 PM
i sure hope that sidequest activates on this playthrough because i think i'm about to hit a point where the story diverges
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on June 17, 2017, 06:08:25 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on June 17, 2017, 05:46:24 PM
i sure hope that sidequest activates on this playthrough because i think i'm about to hit a point where the story diverges
hmm, I don't recall the exact steps needed, but I know it requires 9s.
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 18, 2017, 01:03:49 AM
i guess i'm on route C now

[spoiler]holy FUCK :'([/spoiler]
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on June 18, 2017, 11:52:56 AM
Quote from: Nyerp on June 18, 2017, 01:03:49 AM
i guess i'm on route C now

[spoiler]holy FUCK :'([/spoiler]
I know right?
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 19, 2017, 03:54:30 PM
got ending C

[spoiler]i picked A2. i hope the new chapter select lets me go back and pick 9S but i haven't tried it yet. this game sad :([/spoiler]
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on June 19, 2017, 04:21:48 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on June 19, 2017, 03:54:30 PM
got ending C

[spoiler]i picked A2. i hope the new chapter select lets me go back and pick 9S but i haven't tried it yet. this game sad :([/spoiler]

it does, don't worry.
[spoiler]chapter select is a godsend for reasons like that.
Also, can't wait for you to get ending e, which you can get easily with chapter select. In fact, you have to pick 9s to get ending d I think. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 19, 2017, 09:13:49 PM
got endings D and E

[spoiler]chose not to give up my save file because I'M NOT DONE YET, NOT HAPPENING AGAIN, NOPE NOPE NOPE

anyway, so the real villain of the game is whoever designed project yorha? who is this person or group of people, where are they, and why do we never get to see them? or am i just dumb and it's implied that the little girl machine consciousness created everything?

all in all, a great game. wrench; my only complaints are about the performance issues and that i wish 9S had more than one attack button lol. oh and i guess the fact that the game (like nier 1) is too easy on normal, but that might have been my fault by running around the map a lot before the transports activate in playthroughs 1 and 2 and killing a lot of enemies superfluously. the combat's fun so i basically grinded accidentally OOPS.

tfw the hardest thing in the game was the credits

i really like that they included debug mode and chapter select

this game good, very good

now to find out how to do that emil thing[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 19, 2017, 09:44:05 PM
[spoiler]i can't wait for 7 years from now when nier 3 comes out and it's set in the year 24817 and every cutscene is a major character dying or having a mental breakdown[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on June 19, 2017, 10:06:41 PM
Glad you liked it Nyerp wrench;

This is still my GOTY so far, though I doubt you liked it THAT much.

Do you think it was worth playing this one AFTER Nier 1?
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 19, 2017, 10:31:11 PM
yes, i would say the experience was enhanced by having played nier 1 first, even if it's not THAT important to the plot
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on June 19, 2017, 10:47:13 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on June 19, 2017, 10:31:11 PM
yes, i would say the experience was enhanced by having played nier 1 first, even if it's not THAT important to the plot
yes. if anything, its only important to certain sidequests, as you have, and will see.
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 21, 2017, 12:59:29 PM
got to the end of the cave but the door won't fucking open
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 21, 2017, 01:47:21 PM
well never mind this boss fight is fucking stupid and i'm not going to bother with it. lame way for my experience with this game to end :\
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on June 21, 2017, 01:54:44 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on June 21, 2017, 01:47:21 PM
well never mind this boss fight is fucking stupid and i'm not going to bother with it. lame way for my experience with this game to end :\
what level are you?
[spoiler]I assume you are fighting Emil? He is a superboss (1 of 2) for a reason. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 21, 2017, 01:59:29 PM
[spoiler]i'm level 68 i think. idk what to do about the attack where he fills the room with bouncing heads.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on June 21, 2017, 02:03:45 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on June 21, 2017, 01:59:29 PM
[spoiler]i'm level 68 i think. idk what to do about the attack where he fills the room with bouncing heads.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]literally dodge. it's not wasy to do though, i know. I was like, lvl 80+ when I fought him.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: Nyerp on June 21, 2017, 02:10:46 PM
how did you get to level 80? did you grind?
Title: Re: Nier (Automata)
Post by: TooB on June 21, 2017, 02:15:00 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on June 21, 2017, 02:10:46 PM
how did you get to level 80? did you grind?
kinda sorta.

There is 1 particular enemy that gives you TONS of exp in the amusement park.
There is a trick to beating him easily with 9s, but I love the combat so much, i fought him legit.