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must have simply the prettiest face of any computer-generated fictional character ever conceived befuddlement

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I can't think of anyone who comes close, but I invite you to prove me wrong. hocuspocus;

and to think, this character used to be a comically tasteless caricature of an """attractive""" woman up until just 2013 lol (and perhaps even more amazing is just how primitive rise lara makes 2013 lara look)

She is rather purdy

I'd have to agree. Especially since it's also a believable face.

they made a very pretty character who incessantly gasps, whines, and screams as she gets impaled, bludgeoned, and mangled to satisfy their sick & twisted fantasies

old lara was so much better

Quote from: Nyerp on June 04, 2018, 10:25:15 AM
they made a very pretty character who incessantly gasps, whines, and screams as she gets impaled, bludgeoned, and mangled to satisfy their sick & twisted fantasies

old lara was so much better

you're right, the moaning and screaming makes the nu-raider games sound like rape city and i certainly wouldn't play them with the volume up too high

but the torture porn element has been a part of the series' dna since the originals

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHEBz3AyWbE[/youtube]

What makes old Lara any better? befuddlement

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...lol@that thumbnail

further evidence that people have been playing these ryona games with their hands in their pants since day 1[/spoiler]

But if you were dying wouldn't you scream or yell. Drake yells when he dies in Uncharted idk

Idk about gasping or whining tho

i think it's more the player's sick fantasies that make them hear rape

shame on you

Quote from: YPargh on June 04, 2018, 11:25:20 AM
But if you were dying wouldn't you scream or yell. Drake yells when he dies in Uncharted idk

Idk about gasping or whining tho

yeah but nobody finds male grunting sexy

Quote from: Big Goop on June 04, 2018, 01:27:44 PM
i think it's more the player's sick fantasies that make them hear rape

shame on you

Are you suggesting that Nyerp is projecting his own rape fantasies onto Lara Croft? befuddlement

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nyerp, is there any truth to this accusation akudood;[/spoiler]

Quote from: Majorana's Mask on June 04, 2018, 03:04:27 PM

Quote from: YPargh on June 04, 2018, 11:25:20 AM
But if you were dying wouldn't you scream or yell. Drake yells when he dies in Uncharted idk

Idk about gasping or whining tho

yeah but nobody finds male grunting sexy

Quote from: Big Goop on June 04, 2018, 01:27:44 PM
i think it's more the player's sick fantasies that make them hear rape

shame on you

Are you suggesting that Nyerp is projecting his own rape fantasies onto Lara Croft? befuddlement

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nyerp, is there any truth to this accusation akudood;[/spoiler]

I didn't specify anybody at all  hocuspocus;

Quote from: Majorana's Mask on June 04, 2018, 03:04:27 PM

Quote from: YPargh on June 04, 2018, 11:25:20 AM
But if you were dying wouldn't you scream or yell. Drake yells when he dies in Uncharted idk

Idk about gasping or whining tho

yeah but nobody finds male grunting sexy

Quote from: Big Goop on June 04, 2018, 01:27:44 PM
i think it's more the player's sick fantasies that make them hear rape

shame on you

Are you suggesting that Nyerp is projecting his own rape fantasies onto Lara Croft? befuddlement

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nyerp, is there any truth to this accusation akudood;[/spoiler]

I can't speak to what people who enjoy men find sexy girl;

I would naturally agree that it is not in my own experience  n_u

i never brought up rape that was YOU tec akudood;

tbh it's all in new-lara's line delivery as for why i don't like her. she's always out of breath even when she's not drowning or being strangled. she never says anything with confidence and usually sounds confused or tired. the old lara might have been an objectified sexual fantasy, but it still feels more empowering to play as her because of her self-assured personality. (when i say old lara i mean the one from the ps2 era btw i haven't played the REALLY old games)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyVHV7ct4gU[/youtube]

also LMAO how can you even compare the old deaths with these, they're instantly creepier and more brutal

She's supposed to sound not confident and unsure though. She's not who she was in the older games.

cool but that's not a character i really want to play as

Sorry

Quote from: YPargh on June 04, 2018, 05:27:19 PM

Quote from: Majorana's Mask on June 04, 2018, 03:04:27 PM
yeah but nobody finds male grunting sexy

I can't speak to what people who enjoy men find sexy girl;

I would naturally agree that it is not in my own experience  n_u

lol

what i really mean is that, for whatever reason, female wails of agony are just much easier to sexualize than male equivalents (more generally, female anything is always at much greater risk of being sexualized than male equivalents), so you could play uncharted with the volume all the way up and nobody would make any weird assumptions about nate's grunts if taken out of context

that is not true of the nu-raider games, i certainly would be embarrassed if someone were to overhear the emphatic sounds of lara getting repeatedly impaled and assaulted from behind my locked bedroom door in the dark of night

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LPnoCuB7_c[/youtube]

Quote from: Nyerp on June 04, 2018, 06:32:00 PM
i never brought up rape that was YOU tec akudood;

Are you suggesting that I am projecting my own rape fantasies onto Lara Croft? befuddlement

Quote from: Nyerp on June 04, 2018, 06:32:00 PM
tbh it's all in new-lara's line delivery as for why i don't like her. she's always out of breath even when she's not drowning or being strangled. she never says anything with confidence and usually sounds confused or tired. the old lara might have been an objectified sexual fantasy, but it still feels more empowering to play as her because of her self-assured personality. (when i say old lara i mean the one from the ps2 era btw i haven't played the REALLY old games)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyVHV7ct4gU[/youtube]

also LMAO how can you even compare the old deaths with these, they're instantly creepier and more brutal

i do get your point, old lara may be a piece of pyramid-breasted eye candy designed to appeal to adolescent males on the surface, but she's also brave and fearless and demonstrates great capability in the face of adversity and those qualities command respect from the player, even if his primary intention when buying the game was to ogle triangle tits and explore his budding ryona interest

the visual sexualization of nu-lara is less blatant, but as a trade off she's turned from an extremely competent treasure hunter into a whiny little girl who cries for the strong manly player's protection from any and all perceived threats

and it is a wholly intended effect, as confirmed by the tr 2013 devs themselves:

https://kotaku.com/5917400/youll-want-to-protect-the-new-less-curvy-lara-croft

Quote from: TR 2013 executive producerThey're more like 'I want to protect her.' There's this sort of dynamic of 'I'm going to this adventure with her and trying to protect her.'

you could absolutely interpret this as a form of sexualization in and of itself, and argue that the tomb raider devs simply traded one overt manifestation of sexualization for another more subtle (and easier to market in a """gamergate""" world) form when developing the reboot

though, to be fair, like john said, she is supposed to be a young novice adventurer in the new games, they are origin stories after all

i must disclose that the only tomb raider games i've played are the very first and the 2013 reboot, i don't know if the protection fantasy carries over as strongly in tomb raider 2k15

Quote from: Majorana's Mask on June 04, 2018, 08:27:28 PM

Quote from: YPargh on June 04, 2018, 05:27:19 PM

Quote from: Majorana's Mask on June 04, 2018, 03:04:27 PM
yeah but nobody finds male grunting sexy

I can't speak to what people who enjoy men find sexy girl;

I would naturally agree that it is not in my own experience  n_u

lol

what i really mean is that, for whatever reason, female wails of agony are just much easier to sexualize than male equivalents (more generally, female anything is always at much greater risk of being sexualized than male equivalents), so you could play uncharted with the volume all the way up and nobody would make any weird assumptions about nate's grunts if taken out of context

that is not true of the nu-raider games, i certainly would be embarrassed if someone were to overhear the emphatic sounds of lara getting repeatedly impaled and assaulted from behind my locked bedroom door in the dark of night

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LPnoCuB7_c[/youtube]

Quote from: Nyerp on June 04, 2018, 06:32:00 PM
i never brought up rape that was YOU tec akudood;

Are you suggesting that I am projecting my own rape fantasies onto Lara Croft? befuddlement

Quote from: Nyerp on June 04, 2018, 06:32:00 PM
tbh it's all in new-lara's line delivery as for why i don't like her. she's always out of breath even when she's not drowning or being strangled. she never says anything with confidence and usually sounds confused or tired. the old lara might have been an objectified sexual fantasy, but it still feels more empowering to play as her because of her self-assured personality. (when i say old lara i mean the one from the ps2 era btw i haven't played the REALLY old games)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyVHV7ct4gU[/youtube]

also LMAO how can you even compare the old deaths with these, they're instantly creepier and more brutal

i do get your point, old lara may be a piece of pyramid-breasted eye candy designed to appeal to adolescent males on the surface, but she's also brave and fearless and demonstrates great capability in the face of adversity and those qualities command respect from the player, even if his primary intention when buying the game was to ogle triangle tits and explore his budding ryona interest

the visual sexualization of nu-lara is less blatant, but as a trade off she's turned from an extremely competent treasure hunter into a whiny little girl who cries for the strong manly player's protection from any and all perceived threats

and it is a wholly intended effect, as confirmed by the tr 2013 devs themselves:

https://kotaku.com/5917400/youll-want-to-protect-the-new-less-curvy-lara-croft

Quote from: TR 2013 executive producerThey're more like 'I want to protect her.' There's this sort of dynamic of 'I'm going to this adventure with her and trying to protect her.'

you could absolutely interpret this as a form of sexualization in and of itself, and argue that the tomb raider devs simply traded one overt manifestation of sexualization for another more subtle (and easier to market in a """gamergate""" world) form when developing the reboot

though, to be fair, like john said, she is supposed to be a young novice adventurer in the new games, they are origin stories after all

i must disclose that the only tomb raider games i've played are the very first and the 2013 reboot, i don't know if the protection fantasy carries over as strongly in tomb raider 2k15

That's true ig, I have to turn down the volume while watching women's tennis too

you know who else is up there

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somehow she only looks better with age

still, even she's no match for lara 2k15

Quote from: Big Goop on June 04, 2018, 10:18:10 AM
I'd have to agree. Especially since it's also a believable face.

yes, that's what pushes her to the very top

there's no shortage of attractive video game characters, but they overwhelmingly have greatly simplified features and perfectly symmetrical, uniformly colored generic animefaces that are 'pretty' in the most unimaginative way possible

meanwhile, lara's face is ideal while actually remaining within the limitations of what can be achieved by real human genetics, complete with subsurface scattering and pores and wrinkles and sweat/oiliness and imperfections, all of which serve to make her immeasurably more interesting to look at

tec, any hot takes on Aloy?

Quote from: Thyme on June 05, 2018, 07:57:19 PM
tec, any hot takes on Aloy?

aggressively plain-looking lol

she's like the best possible facial configuration achievable in vanilla oblivion

Tec, remember when Elena looked like a teenage boy?
She did indeed get better with age though.

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slight forehead wrinkles despite a neutral expression, prominent pores, uneven pigmentation, a random assortment of moles, i think i'm even seeing old acne scars

we tend to prefer chemically impure vanilla over chemically pure vanillin because vanilla's impurities are what make it interesting and give its flavor character

that's a huge part of why nu-lara sits comfortably at the very top of the prettiest fictional character list with basically no competition

compare:

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it's not even a contest akudood;

Quote from: Big Goop on June 05, 2018, 09:03:29 PM
Tec, remember when Elena looked like a teenage boy?
She did indeed get better with age though.

i don't think i'd ever have described her as boyish, though she was certainly most petite in uncharted 1 lol

still v. cute though

with the notable exception of uncharted 3, she just got better looking with age lol

Quote from: Majorana's Mask on June 05, 2018, 07:59:59 PM

Quote from: Thyme on June 05, 2018, 07:57:19 PM
tec, any hot takes on Aloy?

aggressively plain-looking lol

she's like the best possible facial configuration achievable in vanilla oblivion

and speaking of aloy

oh how i wish her final design had more closely matched the concept art

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Damn tec.. I fully agree

Quote from: Big Goop on June 06, 2018, 08:52:20 PM
Damn tec.. I fully agree

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it pains me to think about what could have been :'(

she might even have deserved a mention in this thread

Instead, the best I can do is compare her to Oblivion's character models. akudood;

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Quote from: Big Goop on June 06, 2018, 08:52:20 PM
Damn tec.. I fully agree

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it pains me to think about what could have been :'(

she might even have deserved a mention in this thread

Instead, the best I can do is compare her to Oblivion's character models. akudood;

no, it's not THAT bad.
be serious now lol

Quote from: Majorana's Mask on June 10, 2018, 08:47:41 AM

Quote from: Big Goop on June 06, 2018, 08:52:20 PM
Damn tec.. I fully agree

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it pains me to think about what could have been :'(

she might even have deserved a mention in this thread

Instead, the best I can do is compare her to Oblivion's character models. akudood;

2 cara delevingne 4 me

Quote from: Big Goop on June 10, 2018, 01:41:20 PM
no, it's not THAT bad.
be serious now lol

it's not bad, but it is an aggressively plain design lol

i'm being entirely serious when i say she reminds me of oblivion, she has the same sort of distractingly round cushing's syndrome face as oblivion's character models do

Quote from: Majorana's Mask on June 10, 2018, 02:47:35 PM

Quote from: Big Goop on June 10, 2018, 01:41:20 PM
no, it's not THAT bad.
be serious now lol

it's not bad, but it is an aggressively plain design lol

i'm being entirely serious when i say she reminds me of oblivion, she has the same sort of unusually round cushing's syndrome face as oblivion's character models do

lol, tru

itt tec shamelessly objectifies women in gaming

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you guys akudood;

i don't think she can be topped

i dunno i see her as a switch

i'd rather bone elstagirl
(https://img1.cgtrader.com/items/897107/4d5bbfd692/large/elastigirl-rigged-incredibles-2-pbr-ue4-3d-model-low-poly-rigged-fbx-c4d.jpg)

Quote from: Samus Aran on August 05, 2018, 09:26:25 PMi dunno i see her as a switch

it took me a very long time to get the meaning of this comment

'...A Switch? What does this have to do with the Switch? befuddlement'

(http://tinyimg.io/i/DzLqs1w.jpg)

y'all

i seriously need to catch up on these games lol

It's too bad I'd need to blow $500+ on a new GPU to play at these resolutions. :'(

hey @mongler how was rise anyway

Quote from: C.Mongler on August 05, 2018, 09:50:09 PMi'd rather bone elstagirl
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2cartoonish and 2disney

shame on those who sexualize disney characters, smtbh :|

Tec @Magyarorszag , https://www.humblebundle.com/store/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-20-year-celebration

$15

Quote from: don't let's on October 08, 2018, 05:04:00 PMTec @Magyarorszag , https://www.humblebundle.com/store/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-20-year-celebration

$15

god mannit i missed it :'(

me rn:

(http://tinyimg.io/i/4aFr2HD.jpg)

oh well i'm completely broke anyway and i'm sure it'll be on sale (probably for even less) not long from now lol

Quote from: Magyarorszag on October 10, 2018, 10:53:26 PM

Quote from: don't let's on October 08, 2018, 05:04:00 PMTec @Magyarorszag , https://www.humblebundle.com/store/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-20-year-celebration

$15

god mannit i missed it :'(

me rn:

(http://tinyimg.io/i/4aFr2HD.jpg)

oh well i'm completely broke anyway and i'm sure it'll be on sale (probably for even less) not long from now lol

yeah I think it went off sale sometime before noon

Quote from: Magyarorszag on June 04, 2018, 03:04:27 PM

Quote from: YPargh on June 04, 2018, 11:25:20 AMBut if you were dying wouldn't you scream or yell. Drake yells when he dies in Uncharted idk

Idk about gasping or whining tho

yeah but nobody finds male grunting sexy

Says the straight man who's never peruses gay porn for more than 40 seconds

true, 40 seconds is about as long as it takes me goodjob;

also i want to respond with 'well now we know why david likes uncharted so much', but i don't know that that was ever a secret sillydood;

Quote from: Magyarorszag on October 10, 2018, 10:53:26 PM

Quote from: don't let's on October 08, 2018, 05:04:00 PMTec @Magyarorszag , https://www.humblebundle.com/store/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-20-year-celebration

$15

god mannit i missed it :'(

me rn:

(http://tinyimg.io/i/4aFr2HD.jpg)

oh well i'm completely broke anyway and i'm sure it'll be on sale (probably for even less) not long from now lol

https://www.humblebundle.com/store/search?sort=bestselling&search=tomb%20raider (https://www.humblebundle.com/store/search?sort=bestselling&search=tomb%20raider)

On sale again for cheaper.

And all the other tomb raiders

Quote from: don't let's on November 23, 2018, 05:03:15 PMhttps://www.humblebundle.com/store/search?sort=bestselling&search=tomb%20raider (https://www.humblebundle.com/store/search?sort=bestselling&search=tomb%20raider)

On sale again for cheaper.

And all the other tomb raiders

i

i think i'm gonna do it

if i hadn't just blown several hundred bux down to my last $20 on storage drives and other pc components i probably wouldn't even hesitate lol

but nu-lara truly deserves a place on this shiny new ssd

I did it. smithicide;

and on a related note,

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/shadow-of-the-tomb-raider

i had no idea this game scored so poorly lol

Well, Tomb Raider's triumphant resurgence sure turned out to be short lived. Now even the reboot needs a reboot. goowan

RIP LARA :'(

good riddance

Quote from: Magyarorszag on November 27, 2018, 06:53:52 PMI did it. smithicide;

and on a related note,

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/shadow-of-the-tomb-raider

i had no idea this game scored so poorly lol

Well, Tomb Raider's triumphant resurgence sure turned out to be short lived. Now even the reboot needs a reboot. goowan

RIP LARA :'(

Let me help you out there

https://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/shadow-of-the-tomb-raider