Unfortunately, like the last 30 releases, it won't be released on the device I just bought 3 hours ago but Google promises that it will work with vendors to ensure devices will get future updates as long as the hardware can run it. happydood;
But honestly what the fuck Jellybean and Key Lime Pie? What the hell is Google going? My fucking cell phone only finally got Gingerbread in November. This was almost a year after it was fucking released. It was also one of the few phones where I couldn't find a ROM to do it (Galaxy S 4G). Updating to Gingerbread just changed what constantly crashed and now a lot of features that make it a cell phone (dialing numbers, texting) crash cnotedood;
I've been hesitant to buy another phone simply because I know that google will announce some shit and I'd be unlucky enough to get a device that never sees updates from the vendor. Relying on ROMs also shouldn't be the solution which many people seem to suggest.
I also don't want to stay with this phone because all the fucking crashing .Damn Korean phone akudood;
Why does Google release so many fucking versions of shit rather than just improving what they have and keeping it on the same version with different subversions that would at least see updates on devices?
The fact that Google's looking to speed up the update cycle when it can't even make sure that recent phones receive hardware updates is disgusting. Has any non-Nexus device even been upgraded officially to ICS? and even then, not all versions of the Nexus S even have the update. awdood;
Google should really make a list of hardware components that supported by one version of Android, force OEMs to make their shitty skins optional so Google can update the OS without having to wait months for the OEM to just say, 'Whelp, we can't get our skin on because we skimped on the ROM! giggle; giggle;'.
[spoiler]The only 'smart'phone OSes that seem like viable options for people who don't want to fuck with their phone [because they really shouldn't have to in order to make it decent] are iPhones and [lol wait for it] [glow=black,2,300]Windows Phones[/glow] as you're guaranteed at least two cycles of major OS updates when the average Android phone might get a minor .0.0.0.0.1 update after the OEM and carrier fill it with their respective bloatware[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Also, it makes me lough when Androidfags claim that the update process is getting better, because it honestly seems like it's been getting worse. And I won't be surprised when Motorola Mobility continues to release Gingerbread devices even after it's purchased by Google. [/spoiler]
ino wut u mean dawg
But, to be fair, it's not really Google's fault.
Quote from: ,,,-,,, on March 06, 2012, 06:01:46 PM
ino wut u mean dawg
But, to be fair, it's not really Google's fault.
It is when they are releasing new versions of Android at a rate significantly faster than vendors are updating phones.
If they simply slowed down the release cycle and put more pressure on vendors to keep hardware up to date then it wouldn't be as bad. However, when it can take a year, if at all, for a vendor to release an update for Android while Google has already released 2 or 3 updates in that same period then anyone with a phone less than a year old can run into issues where they can't run some apps.
If something requires 2.3 and the phone is still on 2.2 or requires ICS and it's still on Gingerbread or Froyo it sucks for owners of the devices and the developers. Had Google taken its time in releasing new version of Android this wouldn't be as bad.
Apple gets a lot of flak for shit but it at least keeps its devices up to date as long as the hardware isn't gonna be hampered and run horribly.
You know you don't always have to absolutely have the latest iteration as soon as it comes out.
Quote from: Far Beyond Repair on March 06, 2012, 07:18:52 PM
You know you don't always have to absolutely have the latest iteration as soon as it comes out.
Blasphemy!
Quote from: Khadafi on March 06, 2012, 07:09:31 PM
It is when they are releasing new versions of Android at a rate significantly faster than vendors are updating phones.
If they simply slowed down the release cycle and put more pressure on vendors to keep hardware up to date then it wouldn't be as bad. However, when it can take a year, if at all, for a vendor to release an update for Android while Google has already released 2 or 3 updates in that same period then anyone with a phone less than a year old can run into issues where they can't run some apps.
If something requires 2.3 and the phone is still on 2.2 or requires ICS and it's still on Gingerbread or Froyo it sucks for owners of the devices and the developers. Had Google taken its time in releasing new version of Android this wouldn't be as bad.
Apple gets a lot of flak for shit but it at least keeps its devices up to date as long as the hardware isn't gonna be hampered and run horribly.
So Google should slow down because carries and vendors are not able to deploy updates quickly enough? That's stupid. Google can push those updates to their Nexus phones anyway. And, arguably, the people that do care about their version are more likely to flash a ROM on their phones.
It does suck that phones don't get quick updates. But Google should not leave the power users hanging.
namsaying?
Quote from: Far Beyond Repair on March 06, 2012, 07:18:52 PM
You know you don't always have to absolutely have the latest iteration as soon as it comes out.
then you're running an outdated phone and google refuses to support you
i really don't think android will be around for very long. you'll find the people who love fiddling with shit for days and weeks just to get it to work and they love linux shit like gentoo. the average consumer, however, doesn't like having
zero support and immediate obsolescence the minute they buy their phone, and that's the problem with android. iphones bought two years ago can still run 99.5% of the latest ios software with zero issues, while an android phone you bought yesterday for $300 can't even install google's most recent android update. hell, most android phones can't even install any updates.
android fucking sucks. the instant you point it out, people scream about ios being locked down and apple updating too often and other bullshit when SPOILERS android's even worse. there's also the fact that android is very unstable as a whole and prone to crashing an assload. it doesn't help that when something goes wrong whiny android users put all the blame on the user and say "it's not google's fault." google's the goddamn developer with billions in the bank.
It's their fault. akudood;
I don't really get why applying the same OS upgrade to various devices takes so much effort. It's not much of a problem with non-phone OSes, basic hardware architecture shouldn't be significantly different (all phones seem to use just ARM), the Linux kernel should allow hardware drivers to usually continue to work as far as I know, and manufacturers shouldn't have a reason to mess around deep inside Android's source code at areas sensitive to change.
Though I'm not incredibly familiar with this sort of thing, the only issues I'd imagine existing in a sane development organization delaying distribution of an upgrade would be specific regression bugs on a limited set of hardware, which should be relatively uncommon, and also increased system requirements beyond what the device has (which should prohibit rather than delay the upgrade)
It's probably tied a lot into profitability.
Two year old phones don't make money anymore, so there's no reason to support them. There are also the "geeks" (i.e. dumbasses) who need a $500 phone that runs the latest version of Android with cool and unique features, and if any phone can do it, there's no drive for it.
When Google insists Android 4.0 needs a 1GHz processor and nothing less, you know it's bullshit. The iPhone 4 was running around 800 MHz and still receives dandy support from Apple. Even the 3GS is supported. akudood;
Quote from: Pancake Persona on March 07, 2012, 01:06:46 AM
then you're running an outdated phone and google refuses to support you
i really don't think android will be around for very long. you'll find the people who love fiddling with shit for days and weeks just to get it to work and they love android shit like gentoo. the average consumer, however, doesn't like having zero support and immediate obsolescence the minute they buy their phone, and that's the problem with android. iphones bought two years ago can still run 99.5% of the latest ios software with zero issues, while an android phone you bought yesterday for $300 can't even install google's most recent android update. hell, most android phones can't even install any updates.
android fucking sucks. the instant you point it out, people scream about ios being locked down and apple updating too often and other bullshit when SPOILERS android's even worse. there's also the fact that android is very unstable as a whole and prone to crashing an assload.
But the average consumer actually doesn't need or demand a lot of support beyond their phone not dying on them. Before smart phones came along what kind of support was there for cellphones? And people survived just fine then.
I'm still running 2.2 android on a low end phone that I've had for a year now and still works just fine. The only that could be better is the phone memory but I knew exactly what I getting so it doesn't really bother me. I'm sure the latest version would be better but this still works just fine. The outdated versions still work so I don't really see why you're getting so upset here.
And I'm not discounting the fact that it probably would be better if they had some kind of unified thing going on here, but still...
Quote from: Pancake Persona on March 07, 2012, 01:06:46 AM
it doesn't help that when something goes wrong whiny android users put all the blame on the user and say "it's not google's fault." google's the goddamn developer with billions in the bank. It's their fault. akudood;
More often than not it's probably a little bit of everybody's fault in that case, the user, google, and the phone manufacturer.
my opinion is that unless you're really eager to use some newly-supported software feature, hardware matters more anyway
I'm still using gingerbread and I don't really care, it goes fast
I'm planing on getting the HTC Inspire (I think) and from what I've read it supports Android 4.0. I think it's a wise purchase (dare I even call it that, with my upgrade it costs me nothing). It looks like it'll probably keep getting support until the hardware can't run the newest OS.
Quote from: Pancake Persona on March 07, 2012, 01:06:46 AM
i really don't think android will be around for very long. you'll find the people who love fiddling with shit for days and weeks just to get it to work and they love android shit like gentoo.
I'm p biased and this is sorta why I want android to keep going.
Quote from: Snowy on March 07, 2012, 07:09:13 PM
(dare I even call it that, with my upgrade it costs me nothing)
You have to sign a contract, I'm assuming.
Quote from: Snowy on March 07, 2012, 07:09:13 PM
I'm planing on getting the HTC Inspire (I think) and from what I've read it supports Android 4.0. I think it's a wise purchase (dare I even call it that, with my upgrade it costs me nothing). It looks like it'll probably keep getting support until the hardware can't run the newest OS.
if i remember anything the Inspire is basically Thunderbolt for AT&T
it's a great phone hocuspocus;
Quote from: Pancake Persona on March 07, 2012, 01:06:46 AM
then you're running an outdated phone and google refuses to support you
i really don't think android will be around for very long. you'll find the people who love fiddling with shit for days and weeks just to get it to work and they love android shit like gentoo. the average consumer, however, doesn't like having zero support and immediate obsolescence the minute they buy their phone, and that's the problem with android. iphones bought two years ago can still run 99.5% of the latest ios software with zero issues, while an android phone you bought yesterday for $300 can't even install google's most recent android update. hell, most android phones can't even install any updates.
android fucking sucks. the instant you point it out, people scream about ios being locked down and apple updating too often and other bullshit when SPOILERS android's even worse. there's also the fact that android is very unstable as a whole and prone to crashing an assload. it doesn't help that when something goes wrong whiny android users put all the blame on the user and say "it's not google's fault." google's the goddamn developer with billions in the bank. It's their fault. akudood;
eh I think your argument is a little one-sided. you forget that the average consumer doesn't know shit about anything, and will just use their new $300 phone for texts and calling and 3D Snake without ever being concerned about OS updates.
more apps are developed for iOS, so it has that going for it.
Android is a much more open platform because it allows more direct access to the phone's hardware, which wins it for me. do you know how hard it is to run things like openvpn, an ssh tunnel, or even a goddamn text editor on a locked iphone? having switched to android after a few iphones, I actually find android a lot easier to "just use" despite apple's built-for-dads design strategy
Quote from: Pancake Persona on March 07, 2012, 01:06:46 AM
then you're running an outdated phone and google refuses to support you
in a lot of instances the hardware simply can't support the newer versions, so i don't like that argument. it's like whining that your mid-level computer from '05 won't upgrade to windows 7 or something. phone technology is advancing at a pretty quick pace at the moment.
Quotei really don't think android will be around for very long. you'll find the people who love fiddling with shit for days and weeks just to get it to work and they love android shit like gentoo.
whatlol i don't like gentoo or really any desktop linux much at all but i love fiddling with android because it's incredibly easy
and thinking android won't last much longer is kind of silly to think since it has such a huge market share right now and it's starting to improve a bit
Quotethe average consumer, however, doesn't like having zero support and immediate obsolescence the minute they buy their phone, and that's the problem with android.
android has plenty of support (especially of the non-official variety) but i honestly don't get what sorts of problems the average person would have that they'd need excessive help with
i mean yeah apple has the apple store and their applecare stuff which is probably better for the average idiot
Quoteiphones bought two years ago can still run 99.5% of the latest ios software with zero issues, while an android phone you bought yesterday for $300 can't even install google's most recent android update.
not really true, although in some instances sure
Quotehell, most android phones can't even install any updates.
they actually can but most android phones cannot upgrade to ICS because most android phones are made to be cheap shitty smartphones
Quoteandroid fucking sucks. the instant you point it out, people scream about ios being locked down and apple updating too often and other bullshit when SPOILERS android's even worse.
i don't make any of those arguments and both operating systems have their benefits and downsides, I just don't like the lack of customization on iphones
Quotethere's also the fact that android is very unstable as a whole and prone to crashing an assload. it doesn't help that when something goes wrong whiny android users put all the blame on the user and say "it's not google's fault." google's the goddamn developer with billions in the bank. It's their fault. akudood;
uh android doesn't crash at all although quite often shitty apps will, because the android market honestly isn't very good had horrible quality control compared to ios.
the things that make ios better are due to apple's cohesiveness and strong guidelines for how everything should work, along with the fact that only they make the phones. android is spread over a huge variety of phone styles, manufacturers, quality, etc so it tends to be a mixed bag. I would like if google starting taking real control over android requirements and whatnot but the phone companies would not really like that and would do everything they could to either prevent google from doing that or simply try to find a different os that would let them each cheaply and easily modify it to their own proprietary "styles".
but honestly jmv we're only on android version 4 right now akudood;
Quote from: Hiroglyph on March 07, 2012, 09:09:18 PMit's like whining that your mid-level computer from '05 won't upgrade to windows 7 or something
It's actually more like whining that the $2000 computer you bought last month won't run Windows 7.0.1
Quote
uh android doesn't crash at all although quite often shitty apps will, because the android market honestly isn't very good had horrible quality control compared to ios.
android doesn't crash at all, which is why jim v and i have phones that crash constantly akudood;
The goddamn
keyboard crashes on my phone, Hiro. And this is a weekly event. Sometimes it randomly loses connection with the network and refuses to connect to anything. If I'm in a place where I can't access any network, I'll turn on wifi; sometimes this software crashes, my phone freezes for 30 seconds, and then it's back. If I retry, it
might connect.
Also, there's just general bugginess. Assume I have friends 1 through 50 in my contact list. I select friend 3's name to send a text. Android decides I selected friend 29 who's not even visible on my screen. akudood;
Same happens with the alarm clock software. I set have 20 alarms and want to enable alarms 3 through 8. It decides I clicked on 12 through 20. akudood;
If only Android phones allowed you to update your fucking operating system then this wouldn't be a problem. akudood;
Aside from the wifi, these can't possibly be hardware issues. They're merely the byproduct of the worthless programmers at Google and it's impossible to shift the blame to anyone else.
You can praise Android for being more "customizable", but I don't give a shit since it really means nothing more than animated wallpapers and changing lock screens. I'd prefer an OS to work and work well with the ability to update without voiding my warranty.
in order to really do shit with an android phone and make it not suck, you need to root if. if you plan on hacking your phone then just get a goddamn iphone for a lower price with better software reliability and battery life akudood;
Quote from: Pancake Persona on March 08, 2012, 12:53:56 AM
It's actually more like whining that the $2000 computer you bought last month won't run Windows 7.0.1
android doesn't crash at all, which is why jim v and i have phones that crash constantly akudood;
The goddamn keyboard crashes on my phone, Hiro. And this is a weekly event. Sometimes it randomly loses connection with the network and refuses to connect to anything. If I'm in a place where I can't access any network, I'll turn on wifi; sometimes this software crashes, my phone freezes for 30 seconds, and then it's back. If I retry, it might connect.
Also, there's just general bugginess. Assume I have friends 1 through 50 in my contact list. I select friend 3's name to send a text. Android decides I selected friend 29 who's not even visible on my screen. akudood;
Same happens with the alarm clock software. I set have 20 alarms and want to enable alarms 3 through 8. It decides I clicked on 12 through 20. akudood;
If only Android phones allowed you to update your fucking operating system then this wouldn't be a problem. akudood;
Aside from the wifi, these can't possibly be hardware issues. They're merely the byproduct of the worthless programmers at Google and it's impossible to shift the blame to anyone else.
You can praise Android for being more "customizable", but I don't give a shit since it really means nothing more than animated wallpapers and changing lock screens. I'd prefer an OS to work and work well with the ability to update without voiding my warranty.
in order to really do shit with an android phone and make it not suck, you need to root if. if you plan on hacking your phone then just get a goddamn iphone for a lower price with better software reliability and battery life akudood;
i've literally
never had anything on my thunderbolt crash, nor have I ever experienced any bugs like that
I mean if you hate your phone so much what do you expect it to do bro
Hiro, Gingerbread is 2.3.
I've had my phone crash or freeze maybe two or three times out of the year that I've had it so far. And I've had no problems with the keyboard, texts, wifi, or anything like that.
Quote from: Pancake Persona on March 08, 2012, 12:53:56 AM
It's actually more like whining that the $2000 computer you bought last month won't run Windows 7.0.1
android doesn't crash at all, which is why jim v and i have phones that crash constantly akudood;
The goddamn keyboard crashes on my phone, Hiro. And this is a weekly event. Sometimes it randomly loses connection with the network and refuses to connect to anything. If I'm in a place where I can't access any network, I'll turn on wifi; sometimes this software crashes, my phone freezes for 30 seconds, and then it's back. If I retry, it might connect.
Also, there's just general bugginess. Assume I have friends 1 through 50 in my contact list. I select friend 3's name to send a text. Android decides I selected friend 29 who's not even visible on my screen. akudood;
Same happens with the alarm clock software. I set have 20 alarms and want to enable alarms 3 through 8. It decides I clicked on 12 through 20. akudood;
If only Android phones allowed you to update your fucking operating system then this wouldn't be a problem. akudood;
Aside from the wifi, these can't possibly be hardware issues. They're merely the byproduct of the worthless programmers at Google and it's impossible to shift the blame to anyone else.
You can praise Android for being more "customizable", but I don't give a shit since it really means nothing more than animated wallpapers and changing lock screens. I'd prefer an OS to work and work well with the ability to update without voiding my warranty.
in order to really do shit with an android phone and make it not suck, you need to root if. if you plan on hacking your phone then just get a goddamn iphone for a lower price with better software reliability and battery life akudood;
I've had my SGSII for about 6 months and have not had any problems with it. Then again I only ran the stock ROM for about a week.
Quote from: Pancake Persona on March 08, 2012, 12:53:56 AM
android doesn't crash at all, which is why jim v and i have phones that crash constantly akudood;
The goddamn keyboard crashes on my phone, Hiro. And this is a weekly event. Sometimes it randomly loses connection with the network and refuses to connect to anything. If I'm in a place where I can't access any network, I'll turn on wifi; sometimes this software crashes, my phone freezes for 30 seconds, and then it's back. If I retry, it might connect.
Also, there's just general bugginess. Assume I have friends 1 through 50 in my contact list. I select friend 3's name to send a text. Android decides I selected friend 29 who's not even visible on my screen. akudood;
Same happens with the alarm clock software. I set have 20 alarms and want to enable alarms 3 through 8. It decides I clicked on 12 through 20. akudood;
If only Android phones allowed you to update your fucking operating system then this wouldn't be a problem. akudood;
Aside from the wifi, these can't possibly be hardware issues. They're merely the byproduct of the worthless programmers at Google and it's impossible to shift the blame to anyone else.
i have had absolutely none of those problems happen to my phone whatsoever.
Quote from: Pancake Persona on March 08, 2012, 12:53:56 AM
You can praise Android for being more "customizable", but I don't give a shit since it really means nothing more than animated wallpapers and changing lock screens. I'd prefer an OS to work and work well with the ability to update without voiding my warranty.
in order to really do shit with an android phone and make it not suck, you need to root if. if you plan on hacking your phone then just get a goddamn iphone for a lower price with better software reliability and battery life akudood;
you can also change the entire homescreen interface. for instance, mine is currently set up to be similar to the windows phone's metro interface. i haven't rooted my phone or anything.
you just bought a really cheap shitty phone, ron.
Quote from: Snowy on March 08, 2012, 09:10:14 AM
Hiro, Gingerbread is 2.3.
did I say otherwise?
also, does anyone here use an app killer?
Quote from: Hiroglyph on March 10, 2012, 12:17:27 AM
also, does anyone here use an app killer?
I don't anymore because I felt like 4.0 improved task management enough to replace my need for one.
Before the upgrade from Gingerbread, I used Advanced Task Killer.
Quote from: bluaki on March 10, 2012, 12:44:59 AM
I don't anymore because I felt like 4.0 improved task management enough to replace my need for one.
Before the upgrade from Gingerbread, I used Advanced Task Killer.
that was a bad call, app killers are horrible and actually make your phone run worse. at least you're not using it anymore.
what phone do you have?
Quote from: Hiroglyph on March 10, 2012, 02:33:09 AM
that was a bad call, app killers are horrible and actually make your phone run worse. at least you're not using it anymore.
what phone do you have?
How are they horrible? It's not like I had it set to run in the background constantly; I only opened it once in a rare while and used it for what I wanted to do at the time.
I have T-Mobile Nexus S
Quote from: Hiroglyph on March 07, 2012, 09:09:18 PMbut honestly jmv we're only on android version 4 right now akudood;
uh 4.5 and 5.0 were announced already.
there are very few phones on the market now that even support 4.0.
And the hardware argument made earlier is stupid. There isn't that much of a hardware difference to go from something like 2.2 to 2.3 or such.
However, with new phones being released all the time and new versions of Android also being released very rapidly, older phones won't get updates simply because it's not worth the vendor's time to release it on all of its older hardware when the release will be outdated anyhow.
The reason this bothers me isn't because "lol i need most recent shit" but because for the longest time I couldn't run apps on my phone that required Gingerbread while I was still on Froyo. ICS is out and I've had my phone for slightly less than a year. Anything written for ICS won't run on my phone.
Google's release cycle fucks people over if they don't have the most recent phones. iOS doesn't have this problem unless the phone is several years old or falls into a category where there is a new hardware addition (compass in 3GS, for example). I don't think WP7 also has a problem with this.
Is there any reason for Google to release so many versions of Android in less than an 18month period?
Froyo was released in May 2010
Gingerbread was released in December 2010
Honeycomb was released in February 2011 (though admittedly for tablets or Google TV devices)
ICS was released in October 2011 and was meant to unify tablets and phones
4 releases of an OS in 17 months?
Talk about Jellybean and Key Lime Pie began in late february / early march when only one device even supported ICS.
Slowing the release cycle down to once per year would at least give vendors a reason to port shit to older phones where hardware isn't an issue. If a phone is on 2.3 right now and the vendor knows 4.5 is 6 months down the line why would they bother porting a hardware capable phone to 4.0 when the work will be rendered relatively useless once 4.5 is out? Once 4.5 is out there may be either this issue again or the vendor might finally port it to 4.5 after a few months or release 4.0
This is essentially what happened to my phone. With all the new updates it took Samsung forever to release 2.3 and by the time they did that ICS was out. I dont' expect an update because that may be a hardware limitation but if there wasn't one why would Samsung bother releasing 2.3 for my phone when ICS would be out?
One version per year would not kill them. Google wouldn't need to release 90000 fixes for each version since they could take time to actually properly program shit. They still can show off the new version of android at MWC, Google I/O, and all of that shit. Vendors and developers have time to code for one version, and end users can actually have a phone that can run new software for more than 8 months.
I know google likes releasing shit like they are on meth (like a browser that has been out for less than 4 years yet the developer channel is on version 19). People aren't paying for that and having an older version of Chrome doesn't prevent you from using chrome happily less than a year later.
What reasonable defense do you have for Google releasing so many versions of Android within a short period of time? Why would one version per year be anything but a relief for vendors or consumers?
So you just want them to halt progress or slow it down instead of advancing it whenever they can? And were those apps really that important to you that it ruined your phone experience so much? What apps were they anyway?
Quote from: Far Beyond Repair on March 13, 2012, 07:02:52 PM
So you just want them to halt progress or slow it down instead of advancing it whenever they can?
Is it really advancing when the rapid release schedule results in the need for many bug fixes?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#v2.2.x_Froyo
Look at Froyo, Gingerbread, and ICS. Had they just waited a bit longer I'm sure the need for some of these fixes wouldn't be needed.
Considering how many devices actually support the new release then yes slowing down can help.
Quote
And were those apps really that important to you that it ruined your phone experience so much? What apps were they anyway?
If you start getting the "this application is not compatible with your device" shit when you go to download stuff then yes it does.
I'm on gingerbread now and I don't remember which apps were giving me that issue between froyo and gingerbread. I know Chrome does it between gingerbread and ics.
But were the apps really all that important and the "life and death" you seem to want to make it out to be?
Personally I've run across 2 or 3 apps that I've maybe wanted to download and one that I really did that wasn't compatible with froyo.
To me it seems like you're taking this situation way too personally for some reason. Even if you may not be now, (though you still could be) look at how worked up over this you were. It's just a phone. Do a little more research before you buy stuff. Not everything is going to work exactly how you think it will or want it to. Buyers remorse and all that. And just because some apps aren't unusable it doesn't mean that the whole phone becomes trash and is somehow magically unusable now.
Quote from: Khadafi on March 13, 2012, 07:12:32 PM
Is it really advancing when the rapid release schedule results in the need for many bug fixes?
This should be repeated to all departments of Google.
Quote from: Far Beyond Repair on March 14, 2012, 06:23:31 AM
But were the apps really all that important and the "life and death" you seem to want to make it out to be?
Personally I've run across 2 or 3 apps that I've maybe wanted to download and one that I really did that wasn't compatible with froyo.
To me it seems like you're taking this situation way too personally for some reason. Even if you may not be now, (though you still could be) look at how worked up over this you were. It's just a phone. Do a little more research before you buy stuff. Not everything is going to work exactly how you think it will or want it to. Buyers remorse and all that. And just because some apps aren't unusable it doesn't mean that the whole phone becomes trash and is somehow magically unusable now.
How is he supposed to do more research? When JMV bought his phone, unless I'm gravely mistaken, Froyo
was the most recent version of Android. It's not like Samsung releases its phones with a giant press release stating that it's not going to update in a reasonable time frame or update at all. If you have to buy a non-Nexus Android phone thinking that you're not going to be able to use newer apps in a few months time, then lol.
Of course not. His phone's unusable trash because the native messaging app and dialler crash.
Because there's usually tons of info released on the internet within days after the release of a "popular" product. Especially in this day and age. And usually you can at least find something useful before you buy a product. And also, don't buy something you know nothing about the very day it comes out, if that's what he did.
It's actually not hard at all to have a little patience or forethought, people.
And there's still a lot of apps for froyo that work and still get updated. It's nowhere as bad as he's trying to make it out to be.
are iphones still laggy as hell and crash all the time or did they fix that??
Quote from: vziard on March 15, 2012, 10:12:48 AM
are iphones still laggy as hell and crash all the time or did they fix that??
My friends seem to have no problem with theirs at all.