The latest culprit: Activision didn't feel like putting more than one-third of Spyro Reignited Trilogy on the disc, so you need a day 1 update before playing Spyro 2 or 3. Source: https://gematsu.com/2018/08/spyro-reignited-trilogy-requires-content-download-to-play-spyro-2-and-3
In this case, at least the extra content is in the form of an update. There's no download code included, which means game-sharing still works. No word yet on how big the update is; do you have to download the entirety of those two games or are the assets mostly on-disc and they just couldn't get the code working on time?
Before this, of course, Capcom also doesn't know how to put a whole Mega Man collection on one disc or cart.
Yeah, I've been getting more and more afraid of this as the months and years go on.
Like, what makes them think this is a better decision? If you need to finish some work on the game before it goes gold, that you need a patch to make 2/3 of your game playable, maybe you might wanna delay?
the future of gaming is mandatory streaming and once we reach that point i'll quit forever
Quote from: Nyerp on August 01, 2018, 11:57:35 PMthe future of gaming is mandatory streaming and once we reach that point i'll quit forever
Honestly, I'm kinda thinking the same thing.
Quote from: Nyerp on August 01, 2018, 11:57:35 PMthe future of gaming is mandatory streaming and once we reach that point i'll quit forever
sadly this is inevitable, and perhaps the only reason it hasn't happened yet is because american internet infrastructure is absolute shite
Quote from: Nyerp on August 01, 2018, 11:57:35 PMthe future of gaming is mandatory streaming and once we reach that point i'll quit forever
I wonder which one we'll have first: notable streaming-exclusive games or always-online DRM (maybe with a subscription too for good measure) in a console game that should be playable as single-player.
Whichever one happens, I'm out. At least it looks like the next generation will remain playable without streaming
if you get the right hardware
Yeah PC games have been like that for a while now blah
lol they really skimped on getting a dual layer bluray
Quote from: YPargh on August 02, 2018, 04:43:16 AMYeah PC games have been like that for a while now blah
I got the disc for Prey and it just had some language stuff in there and I had to download the whole thing on steam
i wish i could be surprised by this news
pc games havent legit come on discs since like 2013 where have u guys been lol
so does the entire industry
Update: the Spyro trilogy was delayed two months, from September to November, but Activision confirmed they're still not fixing the mandatory day1 patch to play more than one-third of the game at all.
In other probably-not-news that I just noticed when browsing Amazon: the Persona Dancing 3+5 limited edition bundle, aside from being $20 cheaper than buying both games separately (why are they even two separate games in the first place?) and bundling an artbook, also says this in the product description:
QuoteAlso includes a digital download code for Persona 4: Dancing All Night for the PlayStation 4 - the only way to get P4D on PS4!
I find it hard to justify not giving this port of P4D a physical release in the first place considering how well Persona series sells, but on top of that does this mean you can't even buy the PS4 port of P4D on PSN after it launches? Only people who bought the limited edition before it ran out can obtain it? This kind of artificial scarcity on a download-exclusive product is insane. This is similar to but way worse than all those preorder-exclusive retailer-exclusive DLC: locking
a whole game behind preorder?
Here's a great way to make everyone unhappy: people who prefer digital games have to buy a physical release of P3D+P5D in order to get the digital version of P4D, people who prefer physical games can't get P4D on disc at all, people who don't buy preorders or limited editions miss out on a whole game, etc.
Damn I was really hoping they'd get Spyro on a disc. This is going to suck when they discontinue PS4 online support
Quote from: YPrrrr on August 17, 2018, 04:12:33 PMDamn I was really hoping they'd get Spyro on a disc. This is going to suck when they discontinue PS4 online support
https://twitter.com/ZFighterAmuro/status/1027580620548001794
I'm ok with digital p4d, since I have it on vita, but yeah, still is lame
https://youtu.be/6SeUUfKkzZI
I guess there's still some hope for this crappy spyro situation.
I wanna be optimistic.
Update on Spyro since it launches today:
the game ships with 31GB of content, but as was originally reported, only Spyro 1 is playable
after an additional 19GB day-1 update patch, Spyro 2 and 3 become playable.
Interestingly, this adds up to exactly the 50GB limit of content that could've been (but isn't) on a single BD50 disc sillydood;
also I made this thread before we found out RDR2 would be the first 2-disc PS4 game
Somehow I doubt they couldn't have compressed the game a bit more to be safe.
Whatever. I'll wait for a sale.
$20 IS when I'll buy it
I just want it on Switch pls
Quote from: YPrrrr on November 13, 2018, 01:23:38 PMI just want it on Switch pls
Then prepare for that glorious switch cover with the top 3rd all white with text exclaiming that you "may need an sd card."
Quote from: Big Goop on November 13, 2018, 01:40:41 PMQuote from: YPrrrr on November 13, 2018, 01:23:38 PMI just want it on Switch pls
Then prepare for that glorious switch cover with the top 3rd all white with text exclaiming that you "may need an sd card."
It can take up the whole box as long as I can play it!
Quote from: Big Goop on November 13, 2018, 12:17:09 PMSomehow I doubt they couldn't have compressed the game a bit more to be safe.
My point is that it looks like they definitely could've fit all this content on the disc and they simply chose not to for whatever inexplicable reasons. Amusingly enough on top of that, they still crossed into requiring a dual-layer disc, so this decision doesn't even save them any money. They're spending just as much to half-fill a 50GB disc with only 31GB of data as they would spend to fill it to capacity.
Even though the download size for both the game and the patch combined add up to 50GB, it actually consumes 67.5GB of your hard drive space once installed because the installation decompresses some files.
All these numbers I'm giving are for the PS4 version. The Xbox One version has all-around bigger numbers, so unlike the PS4 version, its total download size is well above the limit of a dual-layer Blu-Ray disc.
Quote from: Big Goop on November 13, 2018, 12:17:09 PMWhatever. I'll wait for a sale.
$20 IS when I'll buy it
Thankfully they didn't price it at the full $60 of a typical retail game. It's $40 at launch. So seeing it go on sale for half that in a year or so doesn't seem like that much of a stretch.
That's why I said what I said
okay partially just being a devil's advocate, but so what?
Quote from: antmaster5000 on November 13, 2018, 05:37:27 PMokay partially just being a devil's advocate, but so what?
About spyro not being fully on disc?
If you don't see or have a problem with that, then there is no "so what."
Edit: not meant to sound as dickish as it does.
Quote from: Big Goop on November 13, 2018, 06:14:17 PMQuote from: antmaster5000 on November 13, 2018, 05:37:27 PMokay partially just being a devil's advocate, but so what?
About spyro not being fully on disc?
If you don't see or have a problem with that, then there is no "so what."
Edit: not meant to sound as dickish as it does.
I mean yeah it is kind of annoying but it's a minor inconvenience if nothing else
I don't understand why people buy physical media at all anymore so maybe that influences me
Quote from: antmaster5000 on November 13, 2018, 08:37:48 PMQuote from: Big Goop on November 13, 2018, 06:14:17 PMQuote from: antmaster5000 on November 13, 2018, 05:37:27 PMokay partially just being a devil's advocate, but so what?
About spyro not being fully on disc?
If you don't see or have a problem with that, then there is no "so what."
Edit: not meant to sound as dickish as it does.
I mean yeah it is kind of annoying but it's a minor inconvenience if nothing else
I don't understand why people buy physical media at all anymore so maybe that influences me
Well, here's a couple examples of the problem with digital....
Go to the psn store or xbla and try to get Scott Pilgrim, The Simpsons or X-Men arcade games.
I mean, sure if they're still on your hdd, you can still play them, but with the sizes of games now (spyro being around 50 gigs) sometimes uninstalling a game may be necessary.
So, what if psn servers for that game go down in so many years? What if your hdd fails at that point?
Welp, you just lost spyro 2 and 3 in that "collection" you bought.
Idk, it's just something that bothers me, because I like to actually own what I buy.
Quote from: Big Goop on November 13, 2018, 10:02:57 PMWhat if your hdd fails at that point?
If you have an overabundance of storage space on your PC, it's technically possible to create a backup of your PS3 or PS4 hard drive, by imaging the full hard drive into a single file that's like 1TB or however big the drive is. Unfortunately, because of encryption, even if the only data you care about is a single game that's like 2GB, you'll still need to image the entire drive's capacity. If the hard drive fails, you can write the backup image to a new drive that is the same capacity (exactly to the byte) or larger and the console will think it's the same drive.
Wii/3DS/Switch are a bit nicer about this because their SD cards have an unencrypted FAT filesystem (with encryption only at the file level), so a full backup only needs as much space as the actual data being stored.
Either way, if the motherboard inside your console fails, that backup immediately becomes worthless and you can't bring it over to a replacement console.