(The previous legalize marijuana thread was locked)
Should marijuana be legalized?
I think so. Tobacco and alcohol are legal, yet they harm your body much more than the reefer does.
Alcohol is a poison, is physically addicting, and it leads to numerous heath defects.
Tobacco is also physically addicting, and leads to many other health problems as well.
Cannabis is neither physically addicting nor is it detrimental to your health in comparison to tobacco/alcohol. You don't have to consume nearly as much weed to get the desired effect, and the effects last much longer than that of tobacco (Tobacco lasts for about 5-10 minutes, weed can last for a few hours, depending on the THC levels and the amount you smoke). As a matter of fact, using a vaporizer, one can get the maximum amount of THC (active ingredient in marijuana) out of his or her bud, and one will eliminate almost all of the health risks associated with toking.
Unfortunately, there is a lot of anti-bud propaganda out there to keep it illegal, and people just don't know the facts.
If you'd like to learn more about marijuana and the lack of health risks/dangers stemming (pardon the pun) from this plant, visit these websites:
http://www.saferchoice.org/content/view/24/53/
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/facts/marijuana-myths
Well, question 3 on the ballot here(Massachusetts) was for decriminalization and it passed.
Starting on January 2nd it will only be a civil offense punishable by a fine rather than a misdemeanor/felony. Trafficking, dealing, and growing are still criminal offenses though.
has this not been done a couple times already?
The original thread from a year ago was locked, and the other one didn't seem to be very serious at all.
Let them eat cake
Seriously, I personally believe in abstinence from any and all types of contraband substances. I don't really care if it is legalized, though it would be a pretty funny sight to see some seniors at school taking quick puffs every now and then n_u
im 100% for legalization
if you disagree you are wrong
Quote from: joeinc on December 26, 2008, 09:51:04 AM
im 100% for legalization
if you disagree you are wrong
i agree with you.
like if you don't want to smoke weed don't.
but don't say it should be illeagle and reck it for the people that doo.
just let us enjoy ourselves.
Quote from: l a c e y on December 26, 2008, 09:52:29 PM
i agree with you.
like if you don't want to smoke weed don't.
but don't say it should be illeagle and reck it for the people that doo.
just let us enjoy ourselves.
yes please
Quote from: l a c e y on December 26, 2008, 09:52:29 PM
i agree with you.
like if you don't want to smoke weed don't.
but don't say it should be illeagle and reck it for the people that doo.
just let us enjoy ourselves.
I thought that this might be your first intelligent post until I saw how you spelt "wreck" :3
But legalize weed dammit. We have nicotine legalized and that causes way more harm than weed.
Quote from: Geno on December 27, 2008, 01:17:23 PM
I thought that this might be your first intelligent post until I saw how you spelt "wreck" :3
Or 'illegal'.
Quote from: Geno on December 27, 2008, 01:17:23 PM
I thought that this might be your first intelligent post until I saw how you spelt "wreck" :3
But legalize weed dammit. We have nicotine legalized and that causes way more harm than weed.
kay well i'll try harder to write things properly.
and yah i think cigarettes do more harm as well.
they are way more addictive than weed.
Quote from: l a c e y on December 27, 2008, 02:37:13 PM
kay well i'll try harder to write things properly.
and yah i think cigarettes do more harm as well.
they are way more addictive than weed.
You mean "cigarettes do more harm."
You mean "cigarettes are addicting, and weed isn't."
Quote from: heltar on December 27, 2008, 06:10:30 PM
You mean "cigarettes do more harm."
You mean "cigarettes are addicting, and weed isn't."
yah i pretty much just said that did i not?
Quote from: l a c e y on December 27, 2008, 07:20:45 PM
yah i pretty much just said that did i not?
Just to clear things up.
They'll never legalize marijuana because they can't can't tax it.
There are too many independent distributors of the drug. If there were a way to control the amount taken and/or tax it, it was probably be legal.
Quote from: heltar on December 27, 2008, 06:10:30 PM
You mean "cigarettes do more harm."
You mean "cigarettes are addicting, and weed isn't."
but marijuana is addictive like pretty much every other drug in the world :|
Quote from: joeinc on December 28, 2008, 12:34:40 PM
clear like glass
glass isnt clear if it has finger prints on it
Quote from: l a c e y on December 28, 2008, 12:39:12 PM
glass isnt clear if it has finger prints on it
you can still see through it in most cases
it's still clear
Quote from: Lawlz on December 28, 2008, 12:40:35 PM
you can still see through it in most cases
it's still clear
not if it has dirt on it
Quote from: l a c e y on December 28, 2008, 12:41:13 PM
not if it has dirt on it
Does it in any way change the composition of the glass or do actual damage?
Then the glass itself it still clear. akudood;
Quote from: Lawlz on December 28, 2008, 12:42:03 PM
Does it in any way change the composition of the glass or do actual damage?
Then the glass itself it still clear. akudood;
oooh.
i get it now.
i thought you meant like clear when your looking through it at something.
Quote from: l a c e y on December 28, 2008, 12:44:42 PM
oooh.
i get it now.
i thought you meant like clear when your looking through it at something.
Put dirt on top of some glass
Lift that glass above your head and look through it
You'll see the dirt on the other side, so either way you're stupid akudood;
Quote from: Lawlz on December 28, 2008, 12:46:22 PM
Put dirt on top of some glass
Lift that glass above your head and look through it
You'll see the dirt on the other side, so either way you're stupid akudood;
what if there is dirt on both sides?
Quote from: l a c e y on December 28, 2008, 12:48:12 PM
what if there is dirt on both sides?
the glass remains clear
Quote from: Lawlz on December 28, 2008, 12:51:43 PM
It's life.
Deal with it. akudood;
i deal with it everyday.
otherwise i would be dead.
Quote from: Lawlz on December 28, 2008, 12:37:46 PM
but marijuana is addictive like pretty much every other drug in the world :|
It's not addictive. It doesn't contain addictive properties. People may enjoy the feeling it gives them enough to seem "addicted", but you can't actually develop a physical
need for the drug.
Quote from: Kevin on December 28, 2008, 01:00:25 PM
It's not addictive. It doesn't contain addictive properties. People may enjoy the feeling it gives them enough to seem "addicted", but you can't actually develop a physical need for the drug.
yeah
its clear like clear plastic guys
I like how this went from the legalization of weed to discussion about how clear glass is
Quote from: Geno on December 28, 2008, 05:42:22 PM
I like how this went from the legalization of weed to discussion about how clear glass is
what if it was colored glass
Does it matter if it's legal? I mean if you sit around at your house and smoke weed, nothing will happen to you
Quote from: 36 on December 28, 2008, 07:47:40 PM
Does it matter if it's legal? I mean if you sit around at your house and smoke weed, nothing will happen to you
A lot of people don't have that luxury. If you get pulled over and they find weed, you're fucked.
It's not that simple.
Quote from: 36 on December 28, 2008, 07:47:40 PM
Does it matter if it's legal? I mean if you sit around at your house and smoke weed, nothing will happen to you
yeah youll get high
Quote from: heltar on December 28, 2008, 08:30:43 PM
A lot of people don't have that luxury. If you get pulled over and they find weed, you're fucked.
It's not that simple.
The problem is the police can only search your car if they have probable cause or at least a reasonable suspicion.
If you're just getting pulled over for speeding or something and they ask if you can search, it's your own damn fault if you let them.
Quote from: Lawlz on December 29, 2008, 12:06:41 PM
The problem is the police can only search your car if they have probable cause or at least a reasonable suspicion.
If you're just getting pulled over for speeding or something and they ask if you can search, it's your own damn fault if you let them.
Also, plain view, but that also means you're retarded.
http://change.gov/page/content/openforquestions20081229/
Quote from: Frutta Procione on December 29, 2008, 12:12:42 PM
Also, plain view, but that also means you're retarded.
Yeah, that's why the sack stays in my shoe while I'm in the car. I'm paranoid like that, so no matter how baked I may be while driving around, cops can't do shit. Asking to take off shoes = strip search, and cops can't strip search you unless you're acting really shady... even then they're not supposed to. Just always say "no" and you'll be fine.
Quote from: joeinc on December 29, 2008, 09:48:22 AM
yeah youll get high
what the fuck kind of post is that?
Quote from: heltar on December 29, 2008, 01:28:38 PM
Yeah, that's why the sack stays in my shoe while I'm in the car. I'm paranoid like that, so no matter how baked I may be while driving around, cops can't do shit. Asking to take off shoes = strip search, and cops can't strip search you unless you're acting really shady... even then they're not supposed to. Just always say "no" and you'll be fine.
what the fuck kind of post is that?
itsssssss
won
one
i meant one
Quote from: 36 on December 28, 2008, 07:47:40 PM
Does it matter if it's legal? I mean if you sit around at your house and smoke weed, nothing will happen to you
i dont want to sit at my house and smoke weed.
like i think that it should have the same rules as smoking cigarettes, like no smoking in public places.
Quote from: heltar on December 29, 2008, 01:28:38 PM
Yeah, that's why the sack stays in my shoe while I'm in the car. I'm paranoid like that, so no matter how baked I may be while driving around, cops can't do shit. Asking to take off shoes = strip search, and cops can't strip search you unless you're acting really shady... even then they're not supposed to. Just always say "no" and you'll be fine.
what the fuck kind of post is that?
although cops do have the right to stop and frisk with any suspicion at all
Quote from: 36 on December 28, 2008, 07:47:40 PM
Does it matter if it's legal? I mean if you sit around at your house and smoke weed, nothing will happen to you
Yeah, it's not like people ever get arrested for possession or anything.
Quote from: Houdini on December 29, 2008, 04:29:19 PM
Yeah, it's not like people ever get arrested for possession or anything.
You're an idiot if you get arrested for possession doodhuh;
Quote from: 36 on December 29, 2008, 05:25:02 PM
You're an idiot if you get arrested for possession doodhuh;
You just can't give the police any probable cause, and even then..
That's why I said the shoes are wonderful.
Hey, I'm all up for legalization.
But the only thing is, the government will just scare people with advertisements saying "OMG DON'T SMOKE WEED but it's legal so we won't do anything about it". It's sad how politics go, really.
But then again, that's just my opinion. If it's legalized, I'll smoke up from time to time without giving a shit.
mike go back to the days you smoked up all the time lmfao.
Quote from: l a c e y on December 30, 2008, 07:50:02 PM
mike go back to the days you smoked up all the time lmfao.
I do. >.<
I hate the shitty type of weed that gets me paranoid though. baddood;
Quote from: Sponge on December 30, 2008, 07:59:13 PM
I do. >.<
I hate the shitty type of weed that gets me paranoid though. baddood;
oh yah that has happened to me before.
or like just shitty weed that barely gets you high.
Quote from: Sponge on December 30, 2008, 07:59:13 PM
I do. >.<
I hate the shitty type of weed that gets me paranoid though. baddood;
That has nothing to do with the type of weed, just your mindset and current situation -- if you feel unsafe or insecure, then you're going to have a "bad trip."
Quote from: heltar on December 31, 2008, 12:41:50 AM
That has nothing to do with the type of weed, just your mindset and current situation -- if you feel unsafe or insecure, then you're going to have a "bad trip."
i thought that applied to hallucinogens ;_;
I'm not necessarily for legalization, however, I feel as if people shouldn't be arrested for possession or anything to do with weed. Just a fine at most. It's their fault that they want to slowly kill their brains with it.
This would help lower our incarceration rate [which, as JMV said in another thread, is the highest in the world], and would free up the prisons for real criminals.
Quote from: Lawlz on December 31, 2008, 12:24:33 PM
i thought that applied to hallucinogens ;_;
Really for any drug, to be honest with you.
Quote from: 36 on December 29, 2008, 05:25:02 PM
You're an idiot if you get arrested for possession doodhuh;
That's irrelevant. Idiots or not, tons of people are getting thrown in jail for something that shouldn't even be a crime. Furthermore, your tax dollars are keeping them alive.
Quote from: Houdini on December 31, 2008, 07:25:12 PM
That's irrelevant. Idiots or not, tons of people are getting thrown in jail for something that shouldn't even be a crime. Furthermore, your tax dollars are keeping them alive.
goodthing our tax money is being used to keep them alive it would be wrong to send people to jail for smoking and then not feeding them or anything
Quote from: joeinc on December 31, 2008, 07:27:43 PM
goodthing our tax money is being used to keep them alive it would be wrong to send people to jail for smoking and then not feeding them or anything
Don't get smart with me, boy. My point is that if all those potheads weren't in jail, you would be taxed marginally less.
Quote from: Houdini on December 31, 2008, 07:33:54 PM
Don't get smart with me, boy. My point is that if all those potheads weren't in jail, you would be taxed marginally less.
The moral of the story is: Possession of marijuana shouldn't be a crime.
AND DON'T CALL ME BOY
Quote from: Houdini on December 31, 2008, 07:33:54 PM
Don't get smart with me, boy. My point is that if all those potheads weren't in jail, you would be taxed marginally less.
instead we'd be paying their welfare
It should be legal. Yessir. :3
Quote from: Cedric Diggory on January 01, 2009, 04:41:52 PM
It should be legal. Yessir. :3
I somehow doubt you mean this.
Quote from: Tyler on January 01, 2009, 04:58:46 PM
I somehow doubt you mean this.
Really? Why would you think this? O_0
Quote from: Cedric Diggory on January 01, 2009, 05:43:47 PM
Really? Why would you think this? O_0
It seems awfully out of character.
Oh well. Carry on.
Quote from: Tyler on January 01, 2009, 05:52:16 PM
It seems awfully out of character.
Oh well. Carry on.
You mean I don't seem like someone who would smoke? :O
I'm very open to anything.
Quote from: Houdini on December 31, 2008, 07:25:12 PM
That's irrelevant. Idiots or not, tons of people are getting thrown in jail for something that shouldn't even be a crime. Furthermore, your tax dollars are keeping them alive.
The impact of taking them out of jail on my taxes would be very marginal and unnoticeable. There's a lot more people in jail that I'm keeping alive, so once again I don't think it matters... If I'm gonna get high I'll do it in the privacy of my own house or a friend's.
I don't give a damn whether it's legal or not as long as that shit doesn't end up in my mouth. If you're caught smuggling weed, you're a moron, and the most cops should ever think of doing if taking the profits. Prison is pathetic. But honestly, I'd like to see less people on this crap because it's annoying when you hear that some idiot was high and killed or injured another person unknowingly. Also, I don't want any problems with it involving me, I just want to stay away from this weed business.
being high isnt an excuse for killing someone..
Quote from: l a c e y on January 01, 2009, 10:33:53 PM
being high isnt an excuse for killing someone..
It isn't. Which is why it's annoying at times when people get high and they go and do idiotic things that get people other than themselves into shit.I don't hear it on the news as much as drunk people crash and killing though. I admit I drink alcohol at times, but I don't get drunk or over do it. It's not worth it.
rebel
I say legalize. I am totally for it.
Quote from: DecembeR on January 01, 2009, 10:40:17 PM
It isn't. Which is why it's annoying at times when people get high and they go and do idiotic things that get people other than themselves into shit.I don't hear it on the news as much as drunk people crash and killing though. I admit I drink alcohol at times, but I don't get drunk or over do it. It's not worth it.
Then shouldn't alcohol be illegal too if it's worse than that vile weed?!? O_0
Quote from: Cedric Diggory on January 02, 2009, 10:14:57 AM
Then shouldn't alcohol be illegal too if it's worse than that vile weed?!? O_0
We've already tried that.
BROTIP: It didn't work at all, or even come close.
Quote from: DecembeR on January 01, 2009, 10:28:48 PM
But honestly, I'd like to see less people on this crap because it's annoying when you hear that some idiot was high and killed or injured another person unknowingly.
That doesn't happen.
Quote from: Hippo on January 02, 2009, 10:14:57 AM
Then shouldn't alcohol be illegal too if it's worse than that vile weed?!? O_0
No. I believe alcohol is more popular than weed but eliminating their use is terrible, in my opinion. They should be legal, then. But instead of telling people not to smoke it, they should tell people not to be asses and not to smoke weed or get drunk with loaded pistols in their hands and go insane. The people can do whatever they want to their addicted selves. But my main point being, as long as in my life time I don't run into any bs having to do with this, the people can go smoke weed with their asses for all I care.
Quote from: DecembeR on January 02, 2009, 04:09:37 PM
No. I believe alcohol is more popular than weed but eliminating their use is terrible, in my opinion. They should be legal, then. But instead of telling people not to smoke it, they should tell people not to be asses and not to smoke weed or get drunk with loaded pistols in their hands and go insane. The people can do whatever they want to their addicted selves. But my main point being, as long as in my life time I don't run into any bs having to do with this, the people can go smoke weed with their asses for all I care.
Well, that's good.
However, I think you have some warped views on the effects of marijuana. It doesn't make you want to kill people. O_0
Quote from: Hippo on January 02, 2009, 04:14:52 PM
Well, that's good.
However, I think you have some warped views on the effects of marijuana. It doesn't make you want to kill people. O_0
But you might kill someone accidentally since you're not exactly 'thinking straight'. It annoys me also when I hear on the news that a drunk driver crashed into another person and the other person was killed. And it then annoys me more that they're thrown in jail.
Quote from: Hippo on January 02, 2009, 04:14:52 PM
Well, that's good.
However, I think you have some warped views on the effects of marijuana. It doesn't make you want to kill people. O_0
She clearly didn't even read the articles I linked to, lol,
alcohol is a "violent" drug
weed is not.
that's all there is to it.
Quote from: DecembeR on January 02, 2009, 05:19:35 PM
But you might kill someone accidentally since you're not exactly 'thinking straight'. It annoys me also when I hear on the news that a drunk driver crashed into another person and the other person was killed. And it then annoys me more that they're thrown in jail.
High driving is not at all like drunk driving. It's very easy to do.
Quote from: DecembeR on January 02, 2009, 05:19:35 PM
But you might kill someone accidentally since you're not exactly 'thinking straight'. It annoys me also when I hear on the news that a drunk driver crashed into another person and the other person was killed. And it then annoys me more that they're thrown in jail.
might is a dumb word
Quote from: joeinc on January 06, 2009, 08:14:10 PM
might is a dumb word
I'm going to have to agree on this one. Like I said,
hey hey hey hey
smoke weed every day.
or did i say that
i dont remember
http://health.msn.com/health-topics/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100230518>1=31036
I'll let Mr. Carl Sagan make my point...
QuoteMr. X
By Carl Sagan
This account was written in 1969 for publication in Marihuana Reconsidered (1971). Sagan was in his mid-thirties at that time. He continued to use cannabis for the rest of his life.
Link (http://www.marijuana-uses.com/essays/002.html)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqtY88BUi0M&feature=related
i got high and went to church. :)
I'd love to try it if it was legal, so I'd like it legalized so I know that my pot isn't laced with anything bad.
Quote from: Lotos on January 19, 2009, 09:10:10 AM
I'd love to try it if it was legal, so I'd like it legalized so I know that my pot isn't laced with anything bad.
It's called medical marijuana/cannabis club, and you can get shit from the medical marijuana clubs.
Quote from: Lotos on January 19, 2009, 09:10:10 AM
I'd love to try it if it was legal, so I'd like it legalized so I know that my pot isn't laced with anything bad.
laced with what lol
btw does anyone think that this is hilarious, i mean it sounds awesome except for the last one.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/krotos/1232402366889.png)
what idiot would roll a joint with colored paper?
Quote from: Impish Misdemeanor on January 20, 2009, 07:14:01 AM
what idiot would roll a joint with colored paper?
Desperate times...
Quote from: joeinc on January 12, 2009, 06:49:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqtY88BUi0M&feature=related
whatever the ninja turtles do drugs too.
Quote from: l a c e y on January 20, 2009, 01:36:05 PM
whatever the ninja turtles do drugs too.
Kevin Eastman would like to have a word with you. baddood;
Quote from: Ezlo on January 20, 2009, 01:40:48 PM
Kevin Eastman would like to have a word with you. baddood;
that's fine.
then we can have sex.
Quote from: Ezlo on January 20, 2009, 01:47:50 PM
oh
cook
hhaa im joking.
i wouldnt have sex with him.
but id have a awesome hardcore conversation with him.
and i bet you anything he would say that the ninjas do drugs.
Quote from: l a c e y on January 20, 2009, 02:29:15 PM
hhaa im joking.
i wouldnt have sex with him.
but id have a awesome hardcore conversation with him.
and i bet you anything he would say that the ninjas do drugs.
uh hes the creator of tmnt so whatever he says is true i guess
Quote from: Ezlo on January 20, 2009, 05:04:00 PM
uh hes the creator of tmnt so whatever he says is true i guess
yeah tru dat.
High guys. The topic is criminaliation of cannabis, not looseness of lacey.
Quote from: heltar on January 21, 2009, 11:01:40 PM
High guys. The topic is criminaliation of cannabis, not looseness of lacey.
oh sorry.
Quote from: heltar on January 21, 2009, 11:01:40 PM
High guys. The topic is criminaliation of cannabis, not looseness of lacey.
i think we figured that out when we ended this little off-topic conversation two days ago
Quote from: JMV on January 20, 2009, 07:14:01 AM
what idiot would roll a joint with colored paper?
I used Genesis once. Sort of went up in flames and burned too fast for my liking.
Wonder if growing pot could be the USA's new savior? The auto industry isn't any more.
Quote from: FAMY2 on January 26, 2009, 05:43:39 AM
Wonder if growing pot could be the USA's new savior? The auto industry isn't any more.
you live in michigan
fix it
http://www.worldhealth.net/news/body_s_own_cannabis_marijuana_is_good_fo
Quote from: Ezlo on January 26, 2009, 01:21:56 PM
you live in michigan
fix it
I'm retarded remember. n_u
hocuspocus;
http://www.jackherer.com/chapter03.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/02/11/brazil.marijuana/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufekh_SwZd0&eurl=http://forum.grasscity.com/legalization-activism/355383-ron-paul-larry-king-tonight-talk-about-legalization.html&feature=player_embedded
i just saw this on cnn and i loled
ron ripped baldwin a new asshole
wow three of the most obnoxious people in existence talking about something that's really not that big of a deal
wow stephen baldwin is one of the strangest looking men to ever come out of a vagina
Quote from: Veal on March 14, 2009, 12:01:56 PMtalking about something that's really not that big of a deal
You mean sending people to jail, spending billions of dollars doing so and creating propaganda, and causing the situation in Mexico to worsen by letting drug lords profit off of selling weed instead of keeping it domestic?
I'm sure it'd also have, at least a small, effect on illegal immigration too since a lot of the issues in Mexico are caused by the war on drugs, and cutting down on the war would mean less violence and less powerful cartels there and since that's what causes some people to illegally come here then they wouldn't have as much of a reason.
see solve 2 problems and save, or increase, the U.S. revenue.
Quote from: Kewn That Gose Fast on March 14, 2009, 12:24:15 PM
I'm sure it'd also have, at least a small, effect
....What's with the unnecessary commas, dude? They completely distracted me from everything you were saying. doodhuh;
Quote from: Det in Fââ,,¢Â¯ Major on March 15, 2009, 08:03:03 AM
....What's with the unnecessary commas, dude? They completely distracted me from everything you were saying. doodhuh;
the commas work, i just put the second one 2 words late. akudood;
it should have said "I'm sure it'd also have, at least, a small effect" but im too lazy to fix it
Quote from: Kewn That Gose Fast on March 15, 2009, 08:09:45 AM
the commas work, i just put the second one 2 words late. akudood;
it should have said "I'm sure it'd also have, at least, a small effect" but im too lazy to fix it
I'm sure it'd also have--at least--a small effect
Quote from: Nymphet on March 15, 2009, 03:45:44 PM
I'm sure it'd also have--at least--a small effect
Nah, that is just odd.
Quote from: Nymphet on March 15, 2009, 03:45:44 PM
I'm sure it'd also have--at least--a small effect
lawl no, definitely not, babe
Obviously it should be legalized. Nothing to do with health or wellness or how high people would get ââ,¬â€œÃ¢â,¬â€œ just that it's a massive market.
I was just reading today about how over 1/3 of the US population has admitted to having smoked marijuana, and 15 million have in the last month. This is more people than bought a new car last year, to give you the scope of the market that could be created.
Quote from: Nymphet on March 15, 2009, 03:45:44 PM
I'm sure it'd also have--at least--a small effect
This is how I would have done it. The dashes give it a more pronounced pause, putting emphasis on 'at least.'
baddood;
Quote from: Slim on March 19, 2009, 01:44:29 AM
This is how I would have done it. The dashes give it a more pronounced pause, putting emphasis on 'at least.'
baddood;
i thought i was the only crazy one giggle;
Quote from: Nymphet on March 15, 2009, 03:45:44 PM
I'm sure it'd also have--at least--a small effect
Elements of Style. bassir;
Do you think the Right to Privacy can be used to counter the criminalization of marijuana just as it was to make abortion legal?
Quote from: Mettalik on March 19, 2009, 05:19:18 PM
Do you think the Right to Privacy can be used to counter the criminalization of marijuana just as it was to make abortion legal?
no
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuqvcMDqMn8&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
u guys see any of these
http://blog.norml.org/2009/04/19/first-ever-nationwide-pro-marijuana-tv-ad-campaign-is-launched-in-conjunction-with-420/
Sure. I mean some people do get psycho from weed, but not anywhere near as much as they do from alcohol.
If alcohol is legal, then weed should be too.
Quote from: Cyanide on April 21, 2009, 08:02:59 PM
Sure. I mean some people do get psycho from weed, but not anywhere near as much as they do from alcohol.
If alcohol is legal, then weed should be too.
finally someone who is making some sense.
Really doesn't matter one way or another.
It's not like it's hard to find anyway.
Anyone can buy it.
Quote from: Casey on January 26, 2009, 05:28:39 PM
good point
Not many would get away with saying that. :3
Quote from: Corporal Clegg on April 21, 2009, 09:01:39 PM
Really doesn't matter one way or another.
It's not like it's hard to find anyway.
Anyone can buy it.
yeah just forget about all those people going to jail
Quote from: Corporal Clegg on April 21, 2009, 09:01:39 PM
Really doesn't matter one way or another.
It's not like it's hard to find anyway.
Anyone can buy it.
that's not the point.
sure anyone can buy it.
but anyone can get introuble for having it.
the whole point of making it legal is to make sure that no one can get charged for having it.
I've never met anyone who's been busted for possession.
Believe it or not, a tiny bag isn't too hard to hide.
I know lots of people who've been fined and/or jailed for DUI's and underage drinking.
I'd be as interested as the next guy to see it legalized and it might end up solving a few problems here or there, but I'm not going to fight or dedicate resources to see it happen when i can talk to joe doe down the street and get some good stuff for very little money.
Quote from: Corporal Clegg on April 22, 2009, 11:51:42 AM
I've never met anyone who's been busted for possession.
Believe it or not, a tiny bag isn't too hard to hide.
I know lots of people who've been fined and/or jailed for DUI's and underage drinking.
I'd be as interested as the next guy to see it legalized and it might end up solving a few problems here or there, but I'm not going to fight or dedicate resources to see it happen when i can talk to joe doe down the street and get some good stuff for very little money.
you sir, are an asshole
Quote from: j o e i n c on April 22, 2009, 08:41:10 PM
you sir, are an asshole
Sure.
Now what was that?
Of course sending individuals to prison for possession is absolutely ridiculous, but do you honestly truly believe American legislature and the general public is anywhere near ready to think about legalizing?
Short term solution would be to eliminate prison time for those convicted and just resort to fines.
I think the general public still has that "hee hee Weed!" mentality. Just look at Obama's response.
It wont happen.
And if it does, I'll eat my hat.
you're a weirdo.
there should be no fines or jail time for having it.
and i don't know what "good' weed has to do with anything cause this thread isn't about what kind of weed you can get.
ANYONE CAN GET WEED, GOOD OR BAD.
THE POINT IS WE WANT IT LEAGALIZED SO WE ARE FREE TO USE AND POSSESS IT.
jesus fucking christ retard.
Quote from: lacette on April 23, 2009, 09:51:32 AM
you're a weirdo.
there should be no fines or jail time for having it.
and i don't know what "good' weed has to do with anything cause this thread isn't about what kind of weed you can get.
ANYONE CAN GET WEED, GOOD OR BAD.
THE POINT IS WE WANT IT LEAGALIZED SO WE ARE FREE TO USE AND POSSESS IT.
jesus fucking christ retard.
I dont think you're getting what I'm saying.
Weed wont be legalized.
So, instead of jailing people who possess, just fine them instead.
Again, no jail time, just a fine.
And really, as long as you're even remotely careful where you light up, you have nothing to worry about. Unless you're thinking about walking down main street whilst toking.
Jesus Fucking Christ Retard.
well fines are just as bad as jail time.
plus it goes on your record regardless.
so it being legalized would be much better.
they are never going to stop the use.
if anything they are making it worse.
i could actually see canada legalizing it.
yes yes yes
There are much more dangerous substances out there that an adult can legally consume for nothing more than pleasure. And I can't imagine how much tax money has been wasted on keeping marijuana users in prison who did nothing more than smoke, and to continue this "War on Drugs", which is virtually useless and only makes cannabis much more valuable. akudood;
and then there's the fact that it actually has some medical and even industrial uses
i fully support its legalization
However, this doesn't mean I'd ever go near the substance unless it was in the form of paper or fuel. spam;
what if you had cancer would you do pot then
Quote from: Ã,µÎ© on April 23, 2009, 12:19:15 PM
what if you had cancer would you do pot then
only if i had no other options saddood;
Quote from: Corporal Clegg on April 23, 2009, 10:23:38 AMWeed wont be legalized.
Sure it will. Eventually.
QuoteSo, instead of jailing people who possess, just fine them instead.
My state, Massachusetts, is already doing this. The only penalty for marijuana possession is a $100 fine. As more states start to decriminalize it, the next step is going to complete legalization (which could be a long way off, I admit).
Quote from: lacette on April 23, 2009, 10:31:04 AMwell fines are just as bad as jail time.
plus it goes on your record regardless.
Decriminalization makes it a civil matter; ergo, it doesn't go on one's criminal record.
Quote from: Slim on April 23, 2009, 12:31:40 PM
Sure it will. Eventually.
My state, Massachusetts, is already doing this. The only penalty for marijuana possession is a $100 fine. As more states start to decriminalize it, the next step is going to complete legalization (which could be a long way off, I admit).
Because we are awesome. baddood;
Though minors are still screwed and also have to complete some class. But that's not really too bad.
QuoteDecriminalization makes it a civil matter; ergo, it doesn't go on one's criminal record.
Which reminds me of something I have to check up on. Drug testing for employment: if it's not a criminal offense anymore would failing the drug test with weed in your system still be problematic there?
Quote from: Slim on April 23, 2009, 12:31:40 PM
Decriminalization makes it a civil matter; ergo, it doesn't go on one's criminal record.
it does if you get caught growing or dealing it.
Quote from: Ã,µÎ© on April 23, 2009, 12:34:40 PMWhich reminds me of something I have to check up on. Drug testing for employment: if it's not a criminal offense anymore would failing the drug test with weed in your system still be problematic there?
I searched briefly, and this was the only thing I could find that discusses it: http://stash.norml.org/new-massachusetts-decrim-law-could-thwart-drug-testing/
Quote from: lacette on April 23, 2009, 01:18:31 PMit does if you get caught growing or dealing it.
why would you be doing that? :\
Quote from: Slim on April 23, 2009, 02:53:54 PM
why would you be doing that? :\
cause someone has to grow it.
and someone has to deal it.
Quote from: TECTRINKET on April 23, 2009, 12:23:44 PM
only if i had no other options saddood;
what is this why i dont even
eggs-plain
It's not legal because the government can't tax it.
Cigarettes aren't illegal because the government can tax it, no matter how much they tell you how bad it is.
Quote from: Kevin on April 29, 2009, 06:55:04 PM
It's not legal because the government can't tax it.
no i don't think so
btw NH just became 14th state for MMJ, MN will prolly be next
Quote from: laylay on April 23, 2009, 04:09:30 PM
cause someone has to grow it.
and someone has to deal it.
Economics of scale, free market enterprise. Makes "dealing it" irrelevant and futile, provided the shit is legalized and regulated like any other cash crop.