Poll
Question:
make it legal?
Option 1: Yes
votes: 8
Option 2: No
votes: 1
Option 3: You sick bobba
votes: 7
Well, we all know I won't be having any children, so I've decided to maybe one day adopt! baby;
However, here's where some people disagree with me. sweat;
I don't want to be considered a "Father". The reason I don't is because I am not their rightful father(when the adoption occurs).
I think the best way to put it is like this:
I will simply be their life friend.
I am not their father, nor am I related. I want to be there for when they need help and love. Kind of like a brother.
Is it wrong?
Also, what are your views on adoption? Should gays be able to adopt?
God dammit, people!
WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS!? argh;
Life friend? That's perhaps the dumbest thing I have ever read. Foster kids need a father figure, not a life friend.
If people like Angelina Jolie adopt, I don't see how gays can do a worse job parenting than that thing.
Quote from: Andrew1911 on April 29, 2007, 07:24:16 PM
Life friend? That's perhaps the dumbest thing I have ever read. Foster kids need a father figure, not a life friend.
The problem is, I'm NOT their father. I don't want to lie to them.
Quote from: Andrew1911 on April 29, 2007, 07:24:16 PM
If people like Angelina Jolie adopt, I don't see how gays can do a worse job parenting than that thing.
You, good sir, made my day. flower;
Thing is, every kid needs a father growing up, to look up to as a role model. Someone who will discipline them, and shape them into an adult. If you just decide to be there life friend, then they're going to grow up without knowing any boundaries, and most likely end up in the penal system at least once.
You can still be there life friend, but you need authority over them. It doesn't matter if you aren't blood related, you will still be his father.
Quote from: Ownage Baby on April 29, 2007, 07:31:07 PM
Thing is, every kid needs a father growing up, to look up to as a role model. Someone who will discipline them, and shape them into an adult. If you just decide to be there life friend, then they're going to grow up without knowing any boundaries, and most likely end up in the penal system at least once.
You can still be there life friend, but you need authority over them. It doesn't matter if you aren't blood related, you will still be his father.
I'm afraid not. I still plan to discipline them. I will be considered their "father" by people, but I certainly don't want to be something I'm not.
But if you don't want to be considered there father by them, then they won't consider you there father. You can't always be a friend to your kids.
Just because you aren't blood related, that doesn't mean that the kid still won't be your kid. Adopting a child means that you want the child that you picked out yourself to be raised by you, and to see you as a father. If you're going to adopt a child, and they are a bit older, they're most likely going to come from a home that was very unstable. Because of that, your child will need a father...more then he needs a friend.
Anyone that can care for the child and raise them to be a good person has the right to adopt. Hell, from what I've observed, homosexual couples tend to be more loving than most families. I'd rather a kid be with a person that will love and raise them well than someone than will abuse them or (possibly even worse) completely ignore them.
The only thing I don't understand is why someone has to pay to adopt a child. If anything, the new parents should be paid for helping the child or it should be completely free. psyduck;
Life friend? Yeah, no.
Kids need a father figure, not a "life friend". Just because you didn't help give birth to the kid, doesn't mean you're not fully his/her father. It's stupid to think otherwise. Once you adopt the kid, you're his/her father.
Quote from: ClassicTyler on April 29, 2007, 07:27:26 PM
The problem is, I'm NOT their father. I don't want to lie to them.
Then come out to them, but instead of being this stupid crap "life friend", be the parent they never have. BE A LEGAL GAURDIAN.
Blood has nothing to do with fatherhood. To be a father you just need too love and care for your "child."
Quote from: Necro Gaara on April 29, 2007, 08:54:06 PM
Quote from: ClassicTyler on April 29, 2007, 07:27:26 PM
The problem is, I'm NOT their father. I don't want to lie to them.
Then come out to them, but instead of being this stupid crap "life friend", be the parent they never have. BE A GAURDIAN.
Hey, isn't there a legal term for that? I don't know something like legal guardian?
Quote from: Necro Gaara on April 29, 2007, 08:54:06 PM
Quote from: ClassicTyler on April 29, 2007, 07:27:26 PM
The problem is, I'm NOT their father. I don't want to lie to them.
Then come out to them, but instead of being this stupid crap "life friend", be the parent they never have. BE A GAURDIAN.
Yes. I shall be their "Legal Guardian".
How would I tell them I'm not their father?
Quote from: Andrew1911 on April 29, 2007, 10:06:30 PM
Quote from: Necro Gaara on April 29, 2007, 08:54:06 PM
Quote from: ClassicTyler on April 29, 2007, 07:27:26 PM
The problem is, I'm NOT their father. I don't want to lie to them.
Then come out to them, but instead of being this stupid crap "life friend", be the parent they never have. BE A GAURDIAN.
Hey, isn't there a legal term for that? I don't know something like legal guardian?
Happy? -__-;
I think you aren't wrong in adopting a child. Really, just because you aren't their real parent, adopting isn't bad. Would one rather they stay in the horrible condition they have?
If i was adopted, I wouldn't call the guy my father, and if I adpoted a kid, I wouldn't expect them to call me father, because I simply am not.
I believe that adoption is great, you just guide and support the child until he is able to live on his own, simple as that. There is no problem if he called me "Jimmy"
And yes, gays should be able to adopt.
And in closing, free babies for everyone! baby;
Oh, I would take care of the child. flower;
Quote from: Ownage Baby on April 29, 2007, 07:31:07 PM
Thing is, every kid needs a father growing up, to look up to as a role model. Someone who will discipline them, and shape them into an adult.
I never had a father. I had to do all that myself since my mom never really talked to me about my life. And I turned out just fine. Not everyone needs a father.
I am not into the life friend thing...I mean a kid will grow and obviously know two men could not conceive him. I think one guy actually just used his sperm and had a...I can't think of the word...but basically had a woman have the baby for them. It was that B.D. Wong guy off Law and Order...him and his husband.
Quote from: *Boo* on May 01, 2007, 07:47:35 PM
I am not into the life friend thing...I mean a kid will grow and obviously know two men could not conceive him. I think one guy actually just used his sperm and had a...I can't think of the word...but basically had a woman have the baby for them. It was that B.D. Wong guy off Law and Order...him and his husband.
If two guys took their sperm and mixed it up, would it combine the genes? motherbrain;
Quote from: mariofreak55 on May 02, 2007, 06:42:05 PM
Quote from: *Boo* on May 01, 2007, 07:47:35 PM
I am not into the life friend thing...I mean a kid will grow and obviously know two men could not conceive him. I think one guy actually just used his sperm and had a...I can't think of the word...but basically had a woman have the baby for them. It was that B.D. Wong guy off Law and Order...him and his husband.
If two guys took their sperm and mixed it up, would it combine the genes? motherbrain;
But that's not physically possible. Only one sperm cell can fertilize an egg.
Quote from: *Boo* on May 01, 2007, 07:47:35 PM
I am not into the life friend thing...I mean a kid will grow and obviously know two men could not conceive him. I think one guy actually just used his sperm and had a...I can't think of the word...but basically had a woman have the baby for them. It was that B.D. Wong guy off Law and Order...him and his husband.
I think that was the point of the life friend thing in the first place.
If you are adopting an infant raise them to call you dad, father, or whatever name you choose. Let them know the truth when they are old enough to understand.
If you're adopting a young adult or a kid like 8 years old or more have them call you by your first name, and let them call you dad if they choose.
Well it depends...will you do it alone or with another guy?
Quote from: Princess on May 19, 2007, 08:00:09 PM
Well it depends...will you do it alone or with another guy?
I'm still thinking about it.
Quote from: ClassicTyler on May 19, 2007, 08:01:05 PM
Quote from: Princess on May 19, 2007, 08:00:09 PM
Well it depends...will you do it alone or with another guy?
I'm still thinking about it.
If you do it alone, you can have a stronger bond, but if you go to work then he/she will be alone. If you do it with another guy, then the child will be either embaressed or confused so you would have to explain your homosexuality early on.