Discuss!
My thoughts..
It's your body, do whatever you want to it, as long as you don't harm others. We have alcohol and tobacco, those two are just as bad if not worse.
Alcohol and tobacco are both indeed worse in nearly every possible way. If that shit's legal, marijuana should be legal too.
To be honest with you?
No.
Sure, Tobacco and Alcohol are just as bad for your body, but the effects are nowhere near as dramatic. Pot can seriously fuck you up much worse than Tobacco. Not only that, but usage will increase by at least 60 percent because the prices will drop dramatically.
Quote from: Title on August 22, 2007, 08:32:32 PM
To be honest with you?
No.
Sure, Tobacco and Alcohol are just as bad for your body, but the effects are nowhere near as dramatic. Pot can seriously fuck you up much worse than Tobacco. Not only that, but usage will increase by at least 60 percent because the prices will drop dramatically.
If they are just as bad how can marijuana's effects be more dramatic?
Also, you can't be sure about that. Sure, there have been one or 2 studies claiming that it's bad for you but schools and the media ignore the flood of reports finding that it's better than tobacco, and in some cases even beneficial.
Do I think it should be legalized? Yes, every year millions of people are sent to jail or killed over trafficking of the stuff--all because it's illegal. Legalizing it would save millions of dollars by keeping people out of jail. You wouldn't have the dealers in jail. You wouldn't have the users in jail. You wouldn't have people in jail because they killed some one for the money involved. Instead these people would be actively contributing to society.
There would be no need to spend millions more dollars trying to spread biased propaganda throughout schools. There wouldn't be a need to fund raids on the dealers or to fund the investigations. The money that the government saves could be placed elsewhere. If you factor in the money that is GAINED from the people working instead of being in jail, the benefits are even greater.
And taxation, a good pretty large tax could help regulate it. It would provide an income for the government.
Will the government do it? I doubt it. Marijuana grows easily, mostly anyone can grow it so the government can't tax these private crops. They'd have competition.
I talked to my mom about this awhile ago (it came up in a discussion somehow). Why not legalize weed, as long as we eat it raw? Either that, or somehow make it injectable. Either way, it's safer to the body.
Well, if you legalize marijuana people will beg the government to legalize every other drug. I agree that you should legalize it for medical purposes. But as for getting high, I'm not sure.
I'm fine with legalizing marijuana, but just like tobacco, it shouldn't be used in public. If you're going to smoke, do it at your house and not someplace where I'm trying to eat some delicious lobster. If you're going to get high, do it at your house so you don't do anything stupid and possibly injure someone. Same goes for alcohol.
But it won't be legalized until it can be taxed.
I guess so. It is their own body, and if someone wants to fuck it up, let them.
Quote from: Rodrigo Fiorentini on August 22, 2007, 08:55:28 PM
If they are just as bad how can marijuana's effects be more dramatic?
Also, you can't be sure about that. Sure, there have been one or 2 studies claiming that it's bad for you but schools and the media ignore the flood of reports finding that it's better than tobacco, and in some cases even beneficial.
Do I think it should be legalized? Yes, every year millions of people are sent to jail or killed over trafficking of the stuff--all because it's illegal. Legalizing it would save millions of dollars by keeping people out of jail. You wouldn't have the dealers in jail. You wouldn't have the users in jail. You wouldn't have people in jail because they killed some one for the money involved. Instead these people would be actively contributing to society.
There would be no need to spend millions more dollars trying to spread biased propaganda throughout schools. There wouldn't be a need to fund raids on the dealers or to fund the investigations. The money that the government saves could be placed elsewhere. If you factor in the money that is GAINED from the people working instead of being in jail, the benefits are even greater.
And taxation, a good pretty large tax could help regulate it. It would provide an income for the government.
Will the government do it? I doubt it. Marijuana grows easily, mostly anyone can grow it so the government can't tax these private crops. They'd have competition.
I seriously doubt someone who's in jail for selling illegal substances and willing to kill over the money will start contributing positively to society if it's legalized.
Just because Prohibtion ended, didn't mean Al Capone sat down and opened his own little liquer store, where he became a model citizen.
Quote from: Ripster on August 23, 2007, 06:28:15 AM
I guess so. It is their own body, and if someone wants to fuck it up, let them.
The government wouldn't accept that arguement... Why do you think there's a law against suicide? Not that the law is there for your well-being, but...
Quote from: Your Posting Rival on August 23, 2007, 07:50:39 AM
I seriously doubt someone who's in jail for selling illegal substances and willing to kill over the money will start contributing positively to society if it's legalized.
Just because Prohibtion ended, didn't mean Al Capone sat down and opened his own little liquer store, where he became a model citizen.
I was talking about future people, not people currently incarcerated.
And as for the Al Capone thing, he was in Jail after the prohibition ended. He was released 7 years before his death and suffered health issues because of syphilis. He died from it. Not really much crime involved with dieing of an STD.
Quote from: Rodrigo Fiorentini on August 23, 2007, 08:18:33 AM
I was talking about future people, not people currently incarcerated.
And as for the Al Capone thing, he was in Jail after the prohibition ended. He was released 7 years before his death and suffered health issues because of syphilis. He died from it. Not really much crime involved with dieing of an STD.
Oh, that makes more sense then.
And I merely meant him as an example... As if he wasn't in jail, he wouldn't suddenly become a nice person.
Quote from: Your Posting Rival on August 23, 2007, 08:23:10 AM
Oh, that makes more sense then.
And I merely meant him as an example... As if he wasn't in jail, he wouldn't suddenly become a nice person.
Capone was dealing in far more than just booze. He still would have had plenty of reasons to stay in the underworld. psyduck;
Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 23, 2007, 01:31:12 PM
Capone was dealing in far more than just booze. He still would have had plenty of reasons to stay in the underworld. psyduck;
I think I should stop using examples of people whose biographies I haven't read psyduck;
Quote from: Your Posting Rival on August 23, 2007, 01:43:03 PM
I think I should stop using examples of people whose biographies I haven't read psyduck;
Yes, you should.
You'll just make yourself look dumb. gonk;
My teacher was talking about how California is getting so many laws against cigarettes and he said "California is going to ban cigarettes and make weed legal". I think he smokes.
But I know he was joking, I think what he was saying is that we're getting all of our freedoms slowly taken away. I doubt it will ever become legal but if it does I don't really care. Hopefully if it does that means people won't act so immature when they do it. I've hanged out with people who smoked and they've all either became immature and acted as if they smoked a lot when they really don't, or actually smoke a shit load and start lying, doing other drugs, and stealing.
I don't like that crowd anymore really. I thought I knew my friends but when they smoke they just get extremely annoying. I would support legalizing though, not a whole lot but if I had to sign a petition I would, nothing more though.
Quote from: Ash on August 22, 2007, 10:37:54 PM
Well, if you legalize marijuana people will beg the government to legalize every other drug. I agree that you should legalize it for medical purposes. But as for getting high, I'm not sure.
Create and enforce laws to keep recreational marijuana use in your own home?
I would personally rather not have people getting high all over the place. I hate cigarettes and alcohol too, I think it's all stupid... It isn't good for you, and I don't see the appeal. A lot of the people here have been brought up to believe it's a stupid thing to do and that's the way I see it, and I could see myself losing my friends because of something like that, because I know I sure as hell wouldn't hang out with someone if they took up smoking. I'm not so sure about pot, but I'm certainly not for the idea of it being legalized...
I typed a long reply to this yesterday, but my internet died as I hit submit and it never got posted. poppy;
So, to summarize what I said: It should be kept illegal, because obviously people who want it aren't having trouble getting it, same with anything that's made illegal. I'm not against marijuana use at all, but I just think people and media and politicans are making the legalization (or not) of it way too overblown.
Oh, and I also think cigarettes should be made illegal. That way they'll get much more expensive, less people will smoke, and the people who still do won't have the money to go through fifty cigarettes in a day.
Quote from: Snorks B. Hindenbergh on August 24, 2007, 10:50:57 AM
So, to summarize what I said: It should be kept illegal, because obviously people who want it aren't having trouble getting it, same with anything that's made illegal.
Because we know no one ever gets arrested in drug busts, right? RIGHT?
Quote from: Snorks B. Hindenbergh on August 24, 2007, 10:50:57 AM
I'm not against marijuana use at all, but I just think people and media and politicans are making the legalization (or not) of it way too overblown.
If you're not against it, why do you want it to stay illegal? psyduck;
Quote from: Snorks B. Hindenbergh on August 24, 2007, 10:50:57 AM
So, to summarize what I said: It should be kept illegal, because obviously people who want it aren't having trouble getting it, same with anything that's made illegal.
There's a small difference, though: they wouldn't get arrested and/or imprisoned if it were legal. psyduck;
Quote from: Toast on August 24, 2007, 12:47:04 PM
If you're not against it, why do you want it to stay illegal? psyduck;
Because if everyone has access to it and could get it as easily as tobacco, there would be too many stoned idiots running around. I can get weed very easily right now, and I don't think anything needs to change.
Also, corporations would start controlling marijuana distribution, and before you know it we'd all have the shittiest weed ever.
Quote from: Commodore Guff
There's a small difference, though: they wouldn't get arrested and/or imprisoned if it were legal.
What's life without a little excitement? thumbup;
Quote from: Snorks B. Hindenbergh on August 24, 2007, 11:07:28 PM
Because if everyone has access to it and could get it as easily as tobacco, there would be too many stoned idiots running around. I can get weed very easily right now, and I don't think anything needs to change.
And alcohol doesn't make people idiots?
Quote from: Snorks B. Hindenbergh on August 24, 2007, 11:07:28 PM
Also, corporations would start controlling marijuana distribution, and before you know it we'd all have the shittiest weed ever.
So the tobacco we smoke is the shittiest tobacco ever?
Quote from: JMV290 on August 22, 2007, 08:55:28 PM
You wouldn't have the dealers in jail.
There wouldn't be any more street dealers, they would probably manufacture it like cigarettes. Also put and age on it probably 21 because thats when the brain stops growing as you probably all know.
I was going to make a topic on this but wtf I'll just bump this one. What my topic was going to be about is the plant Salvia Divinorum. My friend told me about it, and, it sounds pretty interesting. Apparently, when you smoke it, you get an experience similar to that of LSD. It only lasts a few minutes, but here's the thing, it's legal in the United States. So, any of you guys out there looking for a legal alternative, go for it.
Wiki article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum
No, because I have lost many a good friend who got started on weed/alcohol/tobacco.
Salvia is supposed to be a 15-minute acid trip, but my friends that have taken it said that it just gave them a 24-hour headache.
Quote from: helter skelter on December 17, 2007, 05:40:37 PM
No, because I have lost many a good friend who got started on weed/alcohol/tobacco.
Salvia is supposed to be a 15-minute acid trip, but my friends that have taken it said that it just gave them a 24-hour headache.
Just because a few unfortunate scmucks become alcoholics is no reason to ban it for everyone, including those who can drink/smoke responsibly.
Anyways, I say legalize it. The amount of time, money, and resources the government spends on fighting something that isn't even dangerous is absolutely pathetic.
Quote from: Zeta on December 17, 2007, 07:10:59 PM
smoke responsibly.
is that even possible psyduck;
QuoteAnyways, I say legalize it. The amount of time, money, and resources the government spends on fighting something that isn't even dangerous is absolutely pathetic.
Then I suppose alcohol isn't dangerous either aside from the fact it kill thousands each year but hey it's their own fault so why should the government care?
It has the potential for abuse. It
will be abused. Someone is bound to go crazy on it and do something stupid, and eventually, plenty more will follow. Just because you may use it "responsibly" doesn't mean everyone will.
Quote from: Lawlz on December 18, 2007, 04:19:50 AM
is that even possible psyduck;Then I suppose alcohol isn't dangerous either aside from the fact it kill thousands each year but hey it's their own fault so why should the government care?
It has the potential for abuse. It will be abused. Someone is bound to go crazy on it and do something stupid, and eventually, plenty more will follow. Just because you may use it "responsibly" doesn't mean everyone will.
Just because DUI and DWI are crimes and dangerous doesn't mean all users are retarded enough to do that.
Why don't we ban antifreeze? Only a matter of time before some people drink it. Why not ban WoW? People get addicted to that?
Quote from: Zeta on December 18, 2007, 07:04:28 AM
Just because DUI and DWI are crimes and dangerous doesn't mean all users are retarded enough to do that.
Why don't we ban antifreeze? Only a matter of time before some people drink it. Why not ban WoW? People get addicted to that?
Problem is, a majority of people that do drink alcohol abuse it multiple times, if not regularly. Just because it may make a party "more fun" doesn't mean it should be legalized, since the thousands of deaths each year are a great price for something that's not even beneficial in any way.
Hell, tobacco really cannot be used responsibly and certainly has no positive effects and does nothing but harm the person that uses it and everyone around them. Aside from getting a little bit of money off the taxes, there really is no reason to keep it legalized. Personal pleasures that have a high risk of depriving others of their life or happiness shouldn't be permissible.
Antifreeze clearly states it's deadly and it does have its benefits. It's not marketed as something you can drink and be happy and jolly because of it. World of Warcraft doesn't harm people that don't play it, so why care?
Quote from: Lawlz on December 18, 2007, 01:05:51 PM
Problem is, a majority of people that do drink alcohol abuse it multiple times, if not regularly. Just because it may make a party "more fun" doesn't mean it should be legalized, since the thousands of deaths each year are a great price for something that's not even beneficial in any way.
Wine has been proven to be beneficial. It's an alcoholic beverage.
QuoteAntifreeze clearly states it's deadly and it does have its benefits. It's not marketed as something you can drink and be happy and jolly because of it. World of Warcraft doesn't harm people that don't play it, so why care?
http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2005/6/21/547
Quote from: JMV290 on December 18, 2007, 01:09:43 PM
Wine has been proven to be beneficial. It's an alcoholic beverage.
When drank in moderate amounts, yes.
Quote from: JMV290 on December 18, 2007, 01:09:43 PM
Wine has been proven to be beneficial. It's an alcoholic beverage.
http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2005/6/21/547
Wasn't it the antibodies in wine that are good?
Also, Marijuana doesn't have to be smoked. They stuff the goodness of weed into pills now. Still easy to abuse and shit, I'm sure.
Quote from: KT on December 18, 2007, 02:43:59 PM
Wasn't it the antibodies in wine that are good?
Also, Marijuana doesn't have to be smoked. They stuff the goodness of weed into pills now. Still easy to abuse and shit, I'm sure.
Antioxidants. Yes. A glass of red wine a day will keep the heart doctor away.
Quote from: helter skelter on December 19, 2007, 03:42:25 PM
Antioxidants. Yes. A glass of red wine a day will keep the heart doctor away.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/11/031106051159.htm
even safer
Quote from: Lawlz on December 18, 2007, 01:05:51 PM
World of Warcraft doesn't harm people that don't play it, so why care?
I lost a friend to World of Warcraft man, don't joke about that stuff around me
Quote from: reefer on December 19, 2007, 04:21:09 PM
I lost a friend to World of Warcraft man, don't joke about that stuff around me
Some asian guy killed himself before an expansion of that game because he had gotten to level 60. He said he was going to sleep with the gods of Azeroth or some shit and jumped to his death. Later, the Burning Crusade Expansion came out.
I wonder how that went over?
Quote from: Lawlz on December 19, 2007, 04:07:47 PM
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/11/031106051159.htm
even safer
Or just some simple exercise.
Quote from: UnagiPower on December 19, 2007, 07:41:23 PM
Or just some simple exercise.
i didn't know that could create antioxidants
Quote from: JMV290 on December 19, 2007, 08:03:54 PM
i didn't know that could create antioxidants
Exercise is more than enough to stay healthy.
I think it should be legalized for medical purposes.
Quote from: CONKER on December 31, 2007, 08:05:26 PM
Sure, but it can be harmful to the people around you because you could be driving and smoking marijuana and run over someone and not even know.
Alcohol has a similar affect.
I wrote a paper on this last year. I was pro all drug legalization.
Why would you want to government's hand in something like weed? They would probably tax the shit out of it.
Quote from: NotSid on January 01, 2008, 02:31:09 PM
Why would you want to government's hand in something like weed? They would probably tax the shit out of it.
and when little johnny sees a "deadly, illegal, immoral" drug suddenly legalized on the local news, he's going to think "hay it must be okay now"
Quote from: Lawlz on January 01, 2008, 02:34:07 PM
and when little johnny sees a "deadly, illegal, immoral" drug suddenly legalized on the local news, he's going to think "hay it must be okay now"
Yeah, and it's going to cost him an arm and a leg to get it.
Then by the time "little johnny" is actually old enough to score some legally, he'll be John and work at a Big Lots
Quote from: NotSid on January 01, 2008, 02:31:09 PM
Why would you want to government's hand in something like weed? They would probably tax the shit out of it.
At least people won't get thrown in jail for smoking or selling it.
Quote from: Houdini on January 01, 2008, 03:51:15 PM
At least people won't get thrown in jail for smoking or selling it.
But a majority of American, especially children, will think that makes marijuana perfectly okay to use and they'll be able to score some at a ripe young age for a fraction of what kids today are paying.
Legalization=An entire nation addicted.
Keeping it illegal but not spending billions burning down houses and exploding little boats hauling some of it=Okay.
Quote from: Lawlz on January 01, 2008, 04:02:11 PM
But a majority of American, especially children, will think that makes marijuana perfectly okay to use and they'll be able to score some at a ripe young age for a fraction of what kids today are paying.
Legalization=An entire nation addicted.
Keeping it illegal but not spending billions burning down houses and exploding little boats hauling some of it=Okay.
Marijuana isn't an addictive drug. You're using your repulsion of smoking in your opinion to assume that everyone would suddenly start smoking.
If you haven't realized, making it illegal hasn't done anything to stop it. I can easily walk down the street, buy a few bags and smoke it.
Quote from: JMV290 on January 01, 2008, 04:17:57 PM
Marijuana isn't an addictive drug.
Any drug can be addictive. Maybe not as addictive as heroin or nicotine, but there are still many people addicted to it.
QuoteIf you haven't realized, making it illegal hasn't done anything to stop it. I can easily walk down the street, buy a few bags and smoke it.
Murder may be illegal, yet people still kill each other. Now, if that were to be legalized, do you think everyone would kill a person/persons they hate? I'd say most people will. The fear of punishment for their actions keep most people away from it. Since thousands of people are arrested and charged everyday for marijuana possession, purchasing it may not be as easy as you think. Maybe you could buy some today and get away, but next week you could be reported or a police officer may just walk around the corner.
Also, the fact everyone says "MARIJUANA IS HARMLESS AND UNADDICTIVE," both of which are utter lies, certainly doesn't help keep people away from it now and it would only make it worse if it was legalized. Marijuana
may prevent brain tumors and is capable of easing pain; but it also inhibits a person's capability of rational thinking, is just as dangerous to the lungs as tobacco when smoked if not worse, and is loaded with carcinogens just like tobacco.
But all Little Johnny hears is that it's unaddictive, good for you, makes you happy, and now cheap and legal. Most everyone supports their addictions, so of course they're going to say it's harmless with no scientific evidence to back it up. "It doesn't affect me" is as stupid as saying global warming doesn't exist because it snowed in Alaska.
Quote from: Lawlz on January 01, 2008, 04:02:11 PM
But a majority of American, especially children, will think that makes marijuana perfectly okay to use and they'll be able to score some at a ripe young age for a fraction of what kids today are paying.
Ever heard of alcohol?
Quote from: Lawlz on January 01, 2008, 04:02:11 PM
Legalization=An entire nation addicted.
Marijuana isn't addictive.
Quote from: Houdini on January 01, 2008, 04:30:53 PM
Ever heard of alcohol?
look at all the thousands of death each year as a result of an entire nation addicted
adding another dangerous drug to the legal list certainly won't make it better
Quote
Marijuana isn't addictive.
lol spam;
Quote from: Lawlz on January 01, 2008, 04:27:07 PM
Any drug can be addictive. Maybe not as addictive as heroin or nicotine, but there are still many people addicted to it.
Do you even know anything about addiction? You can get psychologically addicted to pretty much anything, from drugs to food to video games. However, you can only get physically addicted to certain substances, and marijuana is not one of them.
Quote from: Lawlz on January 01, 2008, 04:27:07 PM
Murder may be illegal, yet people still kill each other. Now, if that were to be legalized, do you think everyone would kill a person/persons they hate? I'd say most people will.
You could legalize murder, but it would still generally be considered morally reprehensible.
Quote from: Lawlz on January 01, 2008, 04:27:07 PM
Since thousands of people are arrested and charged everyday for marijuana possession, purchasing it may not be as easy as you think.
It is about as easy as you think. It's also easy to get caught, but that doesn't mean that acquiring it isn't easy.
Quote from: Lawlz on January 01, 2008, 04:27:07 PM
Maybe you could buy some today and get away, but next week you could be reported or a police officer may just walk around the corner.
Which wouldn't happen if it were legalized.
Quote from: Lawlz on January 01, 2008, 04:27:07 PM
Also, the fact everyone says "MARIJUANA IS HARMLESS AND UNADDICTIVE," both of which are utter lies,
Bullshit. Marijuana is harmful, but compared to nicotine and alcohol, it is r
elatively harmless.
Quote from: Lawlz on January 01, 2008, 04:27:07 PM
certainly doesn't help keep people away from it now and it would only make it worse if it was legalized. Marijuana may prevent brain tumors and is capable of easing pain; but it also inhibits a person's capability of rational thinking,
Oh dear, helpful drugs have adverse side affects? I guess we should ban Vicodin.
Quote from: Lawlz on January 01, 2008, 04:27:07 PM
is just as dangerous to the lungs as tobacco when smoked if not worse, and is loaded with carcinogens just like tobacco.
Are you sure? Let's see a source. You might want to note that weed isn't loaded with tar like tobacco is.
Quote from: Lawlz on January 01, 2008, 04:27:07 PM
But all Little Johnny hears is that it's unaddictive, good for you, makes you happy, and now cheap and legal. Most everyone supports their addictions, so of course they're going to say it's harmless with no scientific evidence to back it up. "It doesn't affect me" is as stupid as saying global warming doesn't exist because it snowed in Alaska.
What if an effort were made to inform people of the dangers that come with marijuana?
Quote from: Lawlz on January 01, 2008, 04:33:38 PM
look at all the thousands of death each year as a result of an entire nation addicted
adding another dangerous drug to the legal list certainly won't make it betterlol spam;
Do some research. You obviously don't know too much about addiction.
also, how many people have died from marijuana use? Sure, people get killed in drug dealings gone wrong, but no one has died from marijuana use.
Research shows that Marijuana actually inhibits cancer, so that argument is bullshit too. The fact that there are other ways to use weed(ingestion) puts the final nail in the cancer argument.
Houdini pretty much covered the rest.
Quote from: Lawlz on January 01, 2008, 04:02:11 PM
But a majority of American, especially children, will think that makes marijuana perfectly okay to use and they'll be able to score some at a ripe young age for a fraction of what kids today are paying.
Legalization=An entire nation addicted.
Keeping it illegal but not spending billions burning down houses and exploding little boats hauling some of it=Okay.
The re legalization of alcohol did not make an entire nation addicted. I don't see your logic there. Just because people now have the ability to do it doesn't mean they will. Tobacco is legal and the entire country isn't addicted to it.
No one will know what will happen unless we try. We can speculate all we want, but speculations get us nowhere.
Quote from: NotSid on January 01, 2008, 02:31:09 PM
Why would you want to government's hand in something like weed? They would probably tax the shit out of it.
Can't easily tax something you can easily grow yourself.
Quote from: reefer on January 03, 2008, 01:10:00 AM
Can't easily tax something you can easily grow yourself.
it does take some effort to grow and dry properly.
the supplies would also be taxed.
Quote from: Houdini on December 31, 2007, 09:40:01 PM
Alcohol has a similar affect.
Yes it does. But that's no reason another substance that can cause the same problems should be legal also.
Quote from: LiveOnTheEdge on January 03, 2008, 05:40:17 PM
Yes it does. But that's no reason another substance that can cause the same problems should be legal also.
Why should alcohol be legal, then?
Quote from: Houdini on January 03, 2008, 05:41:41 PM
Why should alcohol be legal, then?
Exactly, why should it?
Quote from: LiveOnTheEdge on January 03, 2008, 05:55:00 PM
Exactly, why should it?
It really shouldn't be legal, except banning it has proven to have disastrous results, as evidenced by the Prohibition.
Quote from: Houdini on January 03, 2008, 06:02:20 PM
It really shouldn't be legal, except banning it has proven to have disastrous results, as evidenced by the Prohibition.
Exactly, and marijuana is already illegal so why should we make it legal?
People say it has medicinal benefits, so I guess we could just make it legal for legitimate medicinal purposes, unless there's something better out there to use. But I don't think it should be legal for the general population like alcohol already is.
Quote from: LiveOnTheEdge on January 03, 2008, 06:11:36 PM
Exactly, and marijuana is already illegal so why should we make it legal?
People say it has medicinal benefits, so I guess we could just make it legal for legitimate medicinal purposes, unless there's something better out there to use. But I don't think it should be legal for the general population like alcohol already is.
...You just ignored half of what I said.
Quote from: Houdini on January 03, 2008, 06:18:38 PM
...You just ignored half of what I said.
You said, alcohol legal, then alcohol illegal cause big problems, so alcohol legal again.
I said, marijuana illegal already, so why make it legal?
(Please excuse the way I typed that out.)
Quote from: LiveOnTheEdge on January 03, 2008, 05:55:00 PM
Exactly, why should it?
Because a ban causes more problems than it 'solves', organized crime has a field day with it, and you'd put thousands of people out of work if you banned it?
Quote from: Zeta on January 03, 2008, 07:02:55 PM
Because a ban causes more problems than it 'solves', organized crime has a field day with it, and you'd put thousands of people out of work if you banned it?
That still doesn't mean that it
should be legal, that's just the reason that it
is legal.
I think it should be legalized. Alcohol and Cigarettes both are more dangerous then Marijuana. Why should we ban plants when we legalize things with many chemicals in them including rat poison?
Yes, I'd say legalize it.
Of course, with an age. Quite personally, I don't think it has to be as high as alcohol, or enough to be able to buy cigarettes.
Hm, if it were legalized would corporations start forming around it? befuddlement
also
QuoteLegalization=An entire nation addicted.
you sound like a republican
i lold at people who said if alcohol and tobacco are legal, then weed shoukld be too
its just that we have a fucking retarded country that hates it so much that they even use it too psyduck;
make cigarrettes illegal
I dont think the effects of pot are necessarily blocking its legalization. It's more the principle of it. I mean, think of the crazy backlash and ruckus all those conservative groups would start. Oh well. It's not like the stuff's hard to get in the first place.
The only reason weed is illegal is because there's no way of detection the amount in your system. Find a way to measure it, and you can smoke all you want.
ya
Quote from: Selkie on February 10, 2008, 01:45:50 PM
make cigarrettes illegal
stop being stupid lawlz. just restrict the ciggarette use to indoors and illegal to put people who dont want to smoke out of harm's way
also, id go for some legalized weed. besides a lot of people just being happie b/c they like weed, it will also give a prety good boom to the economy.
LEGALIZE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dude i would but i'm so high right now
Quote from: Commodore Guff on October 20, 2008, 07:07:46 PM
dude i would but i'm so high right now
Why did I laugh. It shouldn't of been funny but it was.
Anyway, they should legalize weed. We already have tobacco legal, and that has been proven to be much more harmful than weed. Same with alchohol.
i don't even know why people don't smoke weed.
Quote from: bojangelsrocks on October 21, 2008, 06:55:19 PM
i don't even know why people don't smoke weed.
Maybe I'm strange, but I really don't see what's so appealing about smoking anything really.
Quote from: ME86 on October 21, 2008, 07:58:38 PM
Maybe I'm strange, but I really don't see what's so appealing about smoking anything really.
Try it once and you'll see
Quote from: bojangelsrocks on October 21, 2008, 06:55:19 PM
i don't even know why people don't smoke weed.
because i don't need it.
Quote from: Geno on October 21, 2008, 08:46:07 PM
Try it once and you'll see
I've tried it and I see nothing special about it.
I've seen people become dependent on it, I've seen people use it casually, and I've seen people absolutely refuse it. I personally despise it completely. I've seen idiots close to me become very reliant on it and pretty much screw up their lives because of the dependence. It may be rare, but it happens.
From what I see, most people who see nothing wrong with the drug itself don't tend to notice how much it really does change a person. It may not be a "hardcore" drug, but it does have it's long term effects that may not be easily distinguishable.
Quote from: bojangelsrocks on October 21, 2008, 06:55:19 PM
i don't even know why people don't smoke weed.
shut up
Quote from: Commodore Guff on October 22, 2008, 03:27:13 PM
this does not make sense
how can one exclaim a pause
very carefully
Any dependency issues or affects marijuana may have on one's life is based entirely on the person using it, not the drug itself.
that was a good point.
nice one.
Quote from: bojangelsrocks on October 21, 2008, 06:55:19 PM
i don't even know why people don't smoke weed.
idk probably because it's illegal.
Quote from: Khadafi on October 27, 2008, 10:42:06 PM
idk probably because it's illegal.
well its so easy to get away with.
i dont even know how people get caught.
mostly cause there retards probably.
Quote from: bojangelsrocks on October 28, 2008, 06:31:51 AM
well its so easy to get away with.
i dont even know how people get caught.
mostly cause there retards probably.
Or because it's illegal and not everyone approves of illegal activity.
...but i know what your saying WTF srsly! akudood; madood; saddood;
duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudes
im eartin marshmerrow popcron brall(lol)
its good u ever have won
Quote from: joeinc on November 03, 2008, 03:49:04 PM
duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudes
im eartin marshmerrow popcron brall(lol)
its good u ever have won
who would put marshmellows and popcorn together..
yuck.
Quote from: bojangelsrocks on November 04, 2008, 06:12:10 AM
who would put marshmellows and popcorn together..
yuck.
bro, its good
Quote from: joeinc on November 04, 2008, 02:55:11 PM
bro, its good
LOL I've had it, with the Jet Puff stuff and yea it was bomb.
Quote from: bojangelsrocks on November 05, 2008, 06:19:46 AM
im not a bro.
yeah you are brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
lol no im not.
and i noticed you posted that at exactally 4:20 pm yesterday.
good job.
bro, this is serious discussion please keep it serious
Quote from: Commodore Guff on December 01, 2008, 08:11:00 AM
bro, this is serious discussion please keep it serious
but i cant bro im so high
Quote from: joeinc on December 01, 2008, 03:38:59 PM
but i cant bro im so high
no dude not you the other bro
Quote from: Commodore Guff on December 01, 2008, 07:02:45 PM
no dude not you the other bro
bro i dont know who your talking about bro
why is everyone calling each other bro.
joeinc do you even smoke weed?
Quote from: bojangelsrocks on December 02, 2008, 06:07:02 AM
why is everyone calling each other bro.
joeinc do you even smoke weed?
no way brozay
smokers are jokers madood;
[spoiler]bro[/spoiler]
lol whatever.
if people want to smoke they can.
Quote from: bojangelsrocks on December 02, 2008, 06:07:02 AM
why is everyone calling each other bro.
joeinc do you even smoke weed?
no never
jokers arent smokers bro
I think it should be. I don't see any harm in it.
Quote from: Cedric Diggory on December 02, 2008, 05:39:01 PM
I think it should be. I don't see any harm in it.
weed makes you a killer, fact.
Quote from: bojangelsrocks on December 02, 2008, 05:46:04 PM
why?
not that, that is a bad thing.
because potencys have gone up thousands of % since the 70s. Weed out there could kill you in your doorstep.
i don't think it can kill you.
i've never had any weed that has killed me.
but i've probably had some with like coke in it or something bad like that.
but it hasn't effected me negitivly yet.
except that i can't spell.
Quote from: bojangelsrocks on December 02, 2008, 05:56:26 PM
i don't think it can kill you.
i've never had any weed that has killed me.
but i've probably had some with like coke in it or something bad like that.
but it hasn't effected me negitivly yet.
except that i can't spell.
bro
yes?
lol.
you make me feel stupid.
i never understand you.
Quote from: bojangelsrocks on December 02, 2008, 05:56:26 PM
i don't think it can kill you.
i've never had any weed that has killed me.
but i've probably had some with like coke in it or something bad like that.
but it hasn't effected me negitivly yet.
except that i can't spell.
Hey, I heard that overdosing on speedballs is fun. You should try it sometime.
Quote from: Houdini on December 02, 2008, 06:25:54 PM
Hey, I heard that overdosing on speedballs is fun. You should try it sometime.
I lol'd
Quote from: bojangelsrocks on December 02, 2008, 06:08:08 PM
lol.
you make me feel stupid.
i never understand you.
bakah kah kah kah kah
the blackbird is dissapointed in thee, continue thy shall and I will once, in a forever, at that moment, shake the hand of the eastern sky, with those golden trowls of there
Quote from: joeinc on December 02, 2008, 06:38:09 PM
bakah kah kah kah kah
the blackbird is dissapointed in thee, continue thy shall and I will once, in a forever, at that moment, shake the hand of the eastern sky, with those golden trowls of there
yah that made perfect sense.
what does this have to do with weed?
interesting decision: Switzerland recently voted to legalize heroin, but voted against legalizing weed. hmmm.
Quote from: thezerofire on December 03, 2008, 10:53:23 AM
interesting decision: Switzerland recently voted to legalize heroin, but voted against legalizing weed. hmmm.
that is the most retarded thing ever.
weed is like good for you compared to heroin.
Quote from: bojangelsrocks on December 03, 2008, 10:59:25 AM
that is the most retarded thing ever.
weed is like good for you compared to heroin.
Fun fact: heroin isn't actually bad for you. Heroin addiction will fuck you up, but the drug itself is relatively harmless.
Quote from: Houdini on December 03, 2008, 08:56:49 PM
Fun fact: heroin isn't actually bad for you. Heroin addiction will fuck you up, but the drug itself is relatively harmless.
Yaaay I'm learning.
I guess it's about time I try a little heroin. Naaah....
Quote from: Houdini on December 03, 2008, 08:56:49 PM
Fun fact: heroin isn't actually bad for you. Heroin addiction will fuck you up, but the drug itself is relatively harmless.
But isn't heroin supposed to be extremely addictive?
Quote from: Houdini on December 03, 2008, 08:56:49 PM
Fun fact: heroin isn't actually bad for you. Heroin addiction will fuck you up, but the drug itself is relatively harmless.
i was not aware of that.
but can't you overdose on it or whatever.
that has to mean its bad for you..?
Quote from: bojangelsrocks on December 04, 2008, 06:16:19 AM
i was not aware of that.
but can't you overdose on it or whatever.
that has to mean its bad for you..?
It is bad for you, as it gives you a deadly chemical addiction that's very difficult to overcome. That's not good for anyone's health.
Quote from: Zach on December 04, 2008, 08:16:37 AM
It is bad for you, as it gives you a deadly chemical addiction that's very difficult to overcome. That's not good for anyone's health.
then what was homie up above talking aboutt??
This thread sucks now.
Quote from: l a c e y on December 04, 2008, 10:07:53 AM
then what was homie up above talking aboutt??
The drug itself isn't bad for you. Yes, it's extremely addictive, and yes, you can overdoes on it and die, but it's not bad for your body in the way meth or crack is.