when the spca or the animal protection people find animals that are so abused why don`t they put them to sleep instead of making them suffer.
i understand that some of them will fully recover with no problems, such as animals that have been starved.
but when animals that are covered in deep wounds and that can barely move i don`t see why they don`t put them down.
it`s a peaceful way and then they won`t have to suffer anymore.
also the people who get caught for this, some of them just get like a fine or something.
it`s ridiculous, if they hurt an animal what is stopping them from hurting another human being.
shouldn't they be put in jail automatically for doing something to an animal the same way they would do it to a human?
discuss.
They do, you fucking idiot. psyduck;
Both put extremely abused animals down and send abusers to jail.
no they don't not all the time.
have you ever been to a dog pound...
some of the dogs there are pretty terrible looking.
um a lot of people get let go for animal abuse.
Quote from: Liopleurodon on February 08, 2009, 06:05:43 PM
no they don't not all the time.
have you ever been to a dog pound...
some of the dogs there are pretty terrible looking.
um a lot of people get let go for animal abuse.
Have you ever watched the show 'Animal Cops' on Animal Planet? (If you get that station in Canada.)
Quote from: Strawberry Fields Forever on February 08, 2009, 06:02:57 PM
They do, you fucking idiot. psyduck;
Both put extremely abused animals down and send abusers to jail.
You're punished more severely for jaywalking in this country than you are for killing 10000 kittens.
also, i think killing an animal just because they're "suffering" is a terrible thing to do and inexcusable unless it's 100% certain they're going to die (e.g. terminal brain cancer or something)
Quote from: Pancake Persona on February 08, 2009, 06:19:55 PM
You're punished more severely for jaywalking in this country than you are for killing 10000 kittens.
also, i think killing an animal just because they're "suffering" is a terrible thing to do and inexcusable unless it's 100% certain they're going to die (e.g. terminal brain cancer or something)
yeah but what if they have like deep infections or are missing limbs ect..
Quote from: Liopleurodon on February 08, 2009, 06:57:48 PM
yeah but what if they have like deep infections or are missing limbs ect..
If every person to ever get a severe infection was killed, humanity would've been wiped out centuries ago.
true.
but were not talking about hunmans were talking about animals.
Quote from: Liopleurodon on February 08, 2009, 07:20:10 PM
true.
but were not talking about hunmans were talking about animals.
humans are animals
Would you kill your friend if he had an infection or a disease?
Quote from: Pancake Persona on February 08, 2009, 08:02:56 PM
humans are animals
Would you kill your friend if he had an infection or a disease?
no i guess not.
but is it not harder for an animal to fight infection and be okay than it is for a human?
Quote from: Liopleurodon on February 08, 2009, 08:09:11 PM
no i guess not.
but is it not harder for an animal to fight infection and be okay than it is for a human?
Well, don't forget that we, as humans, have drugs that help our infections out and if these drugs are used on animals, they could harm their health. It's like how kids kinda have their own drugs because their bodies aren't strong enough to take certain pain killers.
Don't get me wrong, animals have drugs too. But that's why some have owners because their brain capacities don't go far enough to know what types of drugs they need to take. akudood;
Animals are driven very heavily by survival instinct, just as humans have thoughts about life or death, animals almost always attempt to live as long as possible, despite pain, disease or otherwise. A deer will continue to run despite being shot, or torn apart by wolves, it is obvious that despite being in pain and having very low chance of survival, the deer will continue to attempt to live a bit longer, it doesn't want to be "put out of it's misery". Even animals who are incapable of functioning properly and are abandoned by their packs continue to try to survive alone rather then starve or jump off a cliff, so I doubt animals regardless of suffering willingly resign themselves to being put down by humans.
Humans are naturally predators with hunting instincts, it may be unnatural (even wrong) to be sadistic, but other predators don't give a second thought to the feelings of the prey as they eat them (often alive), it's usually just about efficiency, many natural poisons are slow torture, but we cannot blame spiders, snakes and fish, but we as humans should imprison our own race for inflicting pain upon animals? I am against deliberately causing pain to living creatures, but at the same time, pain rarely is any worse when inflicted by human, than what could possibly happen in the wild.
If there is no hope for recovery or the animal exhibits behavior that is potentially dangerous, they are humanly euthanized.....
for some reason this topic was interesting to me last night but no so much anymore.
Quote from: Virgule punctuation mark on February 08, 2009, 09:10:20 PM
pain rarely is any worse when inflicted by human, than what could possibly happen in the wild.
Humans have the ability to wipe out an entire species.
Quote from: Nyerp on February 09, 2009, 07:58:51 PM
Humans have the ability to wipe out an entire species.
So does an asteroid, or climate change.
Quote from: Socks on February 09, 2009, 08:02:43 PM
So does an asteroid, or climate change.
A human can choose whether or not to do it.
An asteroid has no conscience.
Species also can be destroyed by natural predators and other species which eat from the same source of food, it's one of the key concepts of Natural selection.
Quote from: Virgule punctuation mark on February 09, 2009, 09:44:31 PM
Species also can be destroyed by natural predators and other species which eat from the same source of food, it's one of the key concepts of Natural selection.
But those animals generally aren't killing for fun or to be "humane", but simply out of necessity.
I see, I suppose you are right, survival is the greatest instict, but all predators must have some form of natural aggressions, weather or not it is necessary. wild animals, no matter how docile, can randomly turn against their owners or their own kind. Even cats and dogs, many that have been bred specifically as house pets for eons, still will attack small lizards, rodents, or insects, this isn't necessity if their owners feed them properly, it is more for enjoyment, cats even play with their prey's carcasses without eating it.