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General => Philosophy & Scholarly Debate => Topic started by: [hedy]Zidone on April 12, 2013, 01:04:02 AM

Title: GUNS
Post by: [hedy]Zidone on April 12, 2013, 01:04:02 AM
How do you feel?

We all know already that 3D printing is the future and we'll all be able to just make our own guns anyway. When that happens, the entire argument will be over [glow=black,2,300]assuming it's not already[/glow] so you better get your word in while there's still time left!
Title: Re: GUNS
Post by: ncba93ivyase on April 12, 2013, 09:13:30 AM
3d printed guns aren't in any way reliable though and won't be unless we can start printing steel

But I think it's better to keep laws as they are since the problem is with crazy people and not the guns themselves. Hell, after the whole Christopher Dorner shit and the LAPD shooting up some random old lady because they thought she was a large black ex-officer, I think it's pretty important to have a way to defend ourselves from them.
Title: Re: GUNS
Post by: Boogus Epirus Aurelius on April 12, 2013, 10:41:44 AM
I don't have any problem with making laws that make it harder to buy/obtain a firearm.
Title: Re: GUNS
Post by: [hedy]Zidone on April 12, 2013, 10:53:07 AM
Quote from: Pancake Persona on April 12, 2013, 09:13:30 AM
3d printed guns aren't in any way reliable though and won't be unless we can start printing steel

THE FUTURE (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/140084-nasa-3d-prints-rocket-parts-with-steel-not-plastic)
Title: Re: GUNS
Post by: silvertone on April 12, 2013, 10:59:18 AM
i dont see the problem w/ guns, in fact i think guns are Really Good for a lot of things.


Title: Re: GUNS
Post by: snoorkel on April 12, 2013, 12:25:03 PM
if cops get guns we get guns; its ok if we dont get guns as long as cops cant use them either

Title: Re: GUNS
Post by: ncba93ivyase on April 12, 2013, 03:39:10 PM
Quote from: [hedy]Zidone on April 12, 2013, 10:53:07 AM
THE FUTURE (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/140084-nasa-3d-prints-rocket-parts-with-steel-not-plastic)
it'll still be costly technology that common people won't be able to obtain due to cost and strict regulations
Title: Re: GUNS
Post by: silvertone on April 12, 2013, 04:10:48 PM
Quote from: Pancake Persona on April 12, 2013, 03:39:10 PM
it'll still be costly technology that common people won't be able to obtain due to cost and strict regulations
all the more reason to be disgustingly rich.
Title: Re: GUNS
Post by: Boogus Epirus Aurelius on April 12, 2013, 06:34:32 PM
Quote from: silvertone on April 12, 2013, 10:59:18 AM
i dont see the problem w/ guns, in fact i think guns are Really Good for a lot of things.





Like opening cans.
And signaling the beginning to footraces.
And as a makeshift drill press.
Title: Re: GUNS
Post by: silvertone on April 12, 2013, 07:19:37 PM
Quote from: Boognish-Redux- on April 12, 2013, 06:34:32 PM
Like opening cans.
And signaling the beginning to footraces.
And as a makeshift drill press.
and preventing Rape and Other Crimes.
Title: Re: GUNS
Post by: ncba93ivyase on April 12, 2013, 09:02:48 PM
Quote from: silvertone on April 12, 2013, 07:19:37 PM
and preventing Rape and Other Crimes.
and hunting which is the only affordable way to feed your family for many from my home region
Title: Re: GUNS
Post by: silvertone on April 12, 2013, 09:03:06 PM
Quote from: Pancake Persona on April 12, 2013, 09:02:48 PM
and hunting which is the only affordable way to feed your family for many from my home region
same lol
Title: Re: GUNS
Post by: silvertone on April 12, 2013, 09:04:18 PM
trade the pelts for more bullets, and sell deer brains to local magicians and medicine men for good fortune and free healthcare
Title: Re: GUNS
Post by: Hiro on April 14, 2013, 03:06:54 AM
guns dont' kill people bullets kill people
also i wish you could lock on irl
Title: Re: GUNS
Post by: Socks on April 15, 2013, 08:16:23 PM
Quote from: Boognish-Redux- on April 12, 2013, 10:41:44 AM
I don't have any problem with making laws that make it harder to buy/obtain a firearm.



This only punishes the law abiding citizen. Guns are already readily available, so people who want to get one for crimes, will not care about going through the official channels. If we were starting a country from scratch, maybe that whole more regulation approach might work.
Title: Re: GUNS
Post by: applesauce on April 16, 2013, 01:59:49 AM
In order to get a firearm where I live you have to:

Fill out a form and enclose $15 and send it off, get a background check and wait 30 days for it to come back.

Go pay $225 for a 2-day class, including transporting yourself out of the city to attend the second day of the class (firing ranges are illegal in the city-- except for the police of course).

Pass the class.

Pay $35 and fill out another form, be fingerprinted and photographed, wait for the background check, wait another 30 days.

Pay $15 for each firearm you bring into the city limits, with a max of 1 every 3 months.

Even after all of this, there is no concealed carry, a magazine limit of 12 rounds, and an assault weapons ban.

Yet, with all these laws, we had over 500 homicides last year.

Really, if there is anything to convince you that gun control doesn't fucking work...
Title: Re: GUNS
Post by: Socks on April 16, 2013, 08:52:41 AM
Quote from: applesauce on April 16, 2013, 01:59:49 AM
Yet, with all these laws, we had over 500 homicides last year.


Which is more deaths than in Afghanistan last year (in terms of US forces).
Really, gun rights aren't about guns, it's about the right, and gun control is about control.
Read a book called 72 hours to animal, and see why ahead of financial and social collapse the powers that be want to confiscate weapons.