- super mario galaxy
- super mario galaxy 2
- uncharted 2
- super metroid
- star fox 64
i'm sure there are a couple i'm forgetting
anyway, feel free to provide your own submissions, but do prepare to have them challenged lol
and do note that "flawless" doesn't necessarily mean "favorite", a flawless game is simply one that has so significant faults, whether it's among your favorites or not
i've said it before and i'll say it again
a link to the past is the quintessential zelda game and is virtually flawless
Advanced Wars 1 and 2 idk
Agreed w/ link to the past
Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup
The best roguelike that exists imo and one of the best games I've played period
Spelunky
Also a flawless experience
StarCraft Broodwar
No explanation needed
SSBM as a competitive game, although you could argue that because only like 8 characters are viable it isn't flawless, but under the veil of it being a competitive game I think you just pretend that the other characters don't exist and enjoy the masterpiece that is ssbm
Overwatch continues to blow me away with it's balance and polish but many (salty) people will disagree with this
Move over, I'm gay. Here's a real list:
Red Dead Redemption
Metal Gear Solid 3
Metroid Fusion
Uncharted 2
Football Manager 2014
Rocket League
The perfect game is Tetris /thread
Quote from: Samus Aran on September 26, 2018, 03:59:54 AMi've said it before and i'll say it again
a link to the past is the quintessential zelda game and is virtually flawless
agreed
Yeah ALTTP is pretty perfect it's one of the 2 Zelda games I've actually beaten along with Minish Cap
ok i get everyone likes alttp but it has one glaring flaw and that flaw is that it's 2d
it-it gets too hard near the end :(
Agreed @rocket league
Quote from: Samus Aran on September 26, 2018, 03:59:54 AMa link to the past is the quintessential zelda game and is virtually flawless
agreed, i can't think of anything to criticize about alttp
also,
Quote from: David on September 26, 2018, 10:42:37 AMRed Dead Redemption
yeah, i guess i would agree befuddlement
it's a little glitchy, but never destructively so the way skyrim's glitches are
Quote from: David on September 26, 2018, 10:42:37 AMMetal Gear Solid 3
also agreed
probably the only nes game i'd put on this list
Mother 3, fight me
Quote from: C.Mongler on September 26, 2018, 06:26:56 PMMother 3, fight me
Did it fix Earthbounds terrible item management?
- yoshi's island
- super mario bros. 3
Quote from: Big Goop on September 26, 2018, 07:14:31 PMQuote from: C.Mongler on September 26, 2018, 06:26:56 PMMother 3, fight me
Did it fix Earthbounds terrible item management?
It's still limited if that's what you mean, but it doesn't do dumb shit like make you hold on to useless items forever and if i remember correctly moving items around is a bit more seamless.
it aint the best inventory manager ever but it's a game from 2006 and it didnt bother me any when i played it earlier this year so whatev
Pinball
Rock Band 2 or 3 maybe?
Quote from: C.Mongler on September 26, 2018, 08:12:20 PMQuote from: Big Goop on September 26, 2018, 07:14:31 PMQuote from: C.Mongler on September 26, 2018, 06:26:56 PMMother 3, fight me
Did it fix Earthbounds terrible item management?
It's still limited if that's what you mean, but it doesn't do dumb shit like make you hold on to useless items forever and if i remember correctly moving items around is a bit more seamless.
it aint the best inventory manager ever but it's a game from 2006 and it didnt bother me any when i played it earlier this year so whatev
So no more calling some place, waiting a few moments, being able to only move 3 items at a time BS?
theres a dude with a cart u can give items to in mother 3. he's just around all the time. u can also just move items around easy as pie. u just click move and then onto who.
Mother 3 is pretty damn great.
Quote from: C.Mongler on September 26, 2018, 08:19:54 PMtheres a dude with a cart u can give items to in mother 3. he's just around all the time. u can also just move items around easy as pie. u just click move and then onto who.
Sounds a lot better indeed.
hotel dusk and its sequel the last window
smrpg
alttp
pokemon g/s/c
pokemon black/white and their respective sequels
60 seconds
4 square on the blacktop
Quote from: 6M69I69B9 on September 26, 2018, 08:50:49 PMhotel dusk and its sequel the last window
STILL need to play these lol :'(
Quote from: Thyme on September 26, 2018, 01:43:30 PMit-it gets too hard near the end :(
it's not
that hard lol
yeah idk no zelda game ever gets truly difficult at all but i actually think that alttp has a better upward difficulty curve than other zeldas, yet another thing it's really good at imo
Quote from: Magyarorszag on September 26, 2018, 05:26:40 PM
probably the only nes game i'd put on this list
Does it ever get difficult? I only played a little bit but couldn't keep going because the powers aren't as fun as modern kirby and it seemed really easy
Also Pokemon Heartgold Soulsilver
Quote from: YPrrrr on September 27, 2018, 04:43:59 AMQuote from: Magyarorszag on September 26, 2018, 05:26:40 PM
probably the only nes game i'd put on this list
Does it ever get difficult? I only played a little bit but couldn't keep going because the powers aren't as fun as modern kirby and it seemed really easy
yeah i gotta say adventure is the most boring, stale ass kirby game lol. like it served it's purpose for its time but i wouldn't put it on any kind of pedestal.
Quote from: Samus Aran on September 26, 2018, 09:52:35 PMyeah idk no zelda game ever gets truly difficult at all but i actually think that alttp has a better upward difficulty curve than other zeldas, yet another thing it's really good at imo
idk man maybe i suck at videogames but zelda 1 and 2 are hard
Quote from: C.Mongler on September 27, 2018, 10:40:45 AMQuote from: YPrrrr on September 27, 2018, 04:43:59 AMQuote from: Magyarorszag on September 26, 2018, 05:26:40 PM
probably the only nes game i'd put on this list
Does it ever get difficult? I only played a little bit but couldn't keep going because the powers aren't as fun as modern kirby and it seemed really easy
yeah i gotta say adventure is the most boring, stale ass kirby game lol. like it served it's purpose for its time but i wouldn't put it on any kind of pedestal.
nightmare in dreamland, on the other hand, is an amazing remake of adventure and it is nearly flawless
though adventure (and nmid by extension) do have the annoying "take one hit and you lose your power" thing which has always annoyed me about some older kirby games. i feel like it was better from the snes onward, where you'd lose it after a few hits, not just one
i found nightmare in dreamland also boring but i would put it well above the original at least lol
ultimately i'm a super star stan so whatever. also planet robobot knocked my socks flippin off and i can never go back
Quote from: YPrrrr on September 27, 2018, 05:45:39 AMSoulsilver
the only real pokemon game i've ever played, and i never even finished it myface;
Quote from: reeper on September 27, 2018, 12:10:02 PMQuote from: Samus Aran on September 26, 2018, 09:52:35 PMyeah idk no zelda game ever gets truly difficult at all but i actually think that alttp has a better upward difficulty curve than other zeldas, yet another thing it's really good at imo
idk man maybe i suck at videogames but zelda 1 and 2 are hard
they are, but mostly for bad reasons lol
Quote from: C.Mongler on September 27, 2018, 10:40:45 AMQuote from: YPrrrr on September 27, 2018, 04:43:59 AMQuote from: Magyarorszag on September 26, 2018, 05:26:40 PM
probably the only nes game i'd put on this list
Does it ever get difficult? I only played a little bit but couldn't keep going because the powers aren't as fun as modern kirby and it seemed really easy
yeah i gotta say adventure is the most boring, stale ass kirby game lol. like it served it's purpose for its time but i wouldn't put it on any kind of pedestal.
Quote from: C.Mongler on September 27, 2018, 01:02:04 PMultimately i'm a super star stan so whatever.
super star is practically flawless
Quote from: Magyarorszag on September 26, 2018, 09:25:20 PM
But what makes it
so much better than Adventure? befuddlement
disclaimer i haven't actually played super star in years so i don't remember every detail about it lol, adventure is much more fresh in my memory
i suppose my only issues with this game are pretty trivial
Skyr-HAHAHAHAHAHA
i mean, i love(d) it, but yeeeeaaaaaahhhhh awdood;
Quote from: Magyarorszag on September 27, 2018, 01:32:42 PMQuote from: YPrrrr on September 27, 2018, 05:45:39 AMSoulsilver
the only real pokemon game i've ever played, and i never even finished it myface;
Quote from: reeper on September 27, 2018, 12:10:02 PMQuote from: Samus Aran on September 26, 2018, 09:52:35 PMyeah idk no zelda game ever gets truly difficult at all but i actually think that alttp has a better upward difficulty curve than other zeldas, yet another thing it's really good at imo
idk man maybe i suck at videogames but zelda 1 and 2 are hard
they are, but mostly for bad reasons lol
never beat Red (the final boss guy) til this year but they're still amazing games.
I guess it does have a flaw in that Kanto is way too easy until Red but that Kanto was included at all is a bonus
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
Quote from: Thyme on September 27, 2018, 02:56:50 PMSkyr-HAHAHAHAHAHA
i mean, i love(d) it, but yeeeeaaaaaahhhhh awdood;
lol
my mind keeps flickering to skyrim (and dark souls) too but jesus christ no
however, they serve as good examples of games i like more than many of the virtually flawless ones named itt, in spite of their glaring faults
Quote from: Magyarorszag on September 27, 2018, 01:39:01 PM
i suppose my only issues with this game are pretty trivial
Wii
Quote from: Thyme on September 27, 2018, 02:56:50 PMSkyr-HAHAHAHAHAHA
i mean, i love(d) it, but yeeeeaaaaaahhhhh awdood;
Poor PlayStation version >.<
Quote from: don't let's on September 27, 2018, 07:22:14 PMQuote from: Magyarorszag on September 27, 2018, 01:39:01 PM
i suppose my only issues with this game are pretty trivial
Wii
i actually was specifically talking about the wii version lol
i can't speak for the others but i assume their controls are significantly worse
but as far as i remember, re4
wii edition has no substantial faults
ouendan 1 & 2, eba (never played eba RIP lmao)
they were grassroots for osu and other similar rhythm games
viewtiful joe 1 & 2 were flawless TOO
Deadly Premonition
Quote from: 6M69I69B9 on September 27, 2018, 09:25:08 PMeba
oh yeah, agreed
i would like to play the ouendan games one day, and you (and everyone else) should def. play eba because it really is practically flawless
uhhh some of the music in eba is terrible lmao i'd call that a pretty damn big flaw
also eba (and ouendan in general) is the most guilty of "i can barely even hear the music over the ridiculously loud note confirmations" syndrome
but as i said much of the music is terrible so maybe that's a good thing
Quote from: Samus Aran on September 28, 2018, 10:11:33 PMuhhh some of the music in eba is terrible lmao i'd call that a pretty damn big flaw
For example? befuddlement
i don't remember any of its music choices being truly
bad, although i can think of one that maybe felt a little out of place considering the nature of the game lol
Quote from: Magyarorszag on September 28, 2018, 10:15:27 PMQuote from: Samus Aran on September 28, 2018, 10:11:33 PMuhhh some of the music in eba is terrible lmao i'd call that a pretty damn big flaw
For example? befuddlement
i don't remember any of its music choices being truly bad, although i can think of one that maybe felt a little out of place considering the nature of the game lol
gee i wonder if you're thinking of the christmas level goowan
and, just basically all the music (in our version of eba at least) is comprised of really generic, budgety covers of existing music
yeah EBA's soudntrack is hot poo-ass tier; it has fucking hoobistank lol
Ouendan wins by default because it's japanese and I can't understand the music
Quote from: Samus Aran on September 28, 2018, 10:12:29 PMalso eba (and ouendan in general) is the most guilty of "i can barely even hear the music over the ridiculously loud note confirmations" syndrome
but as i said much of the music is terrible so maybe that's a good thing
This is sadly true
Quote from: Samus Aran on September 28, 2018, 10:23:59 PMgee i wonder if you're thinking of the christmas level goowan
sillydood;
Quote from: Samus Aran on September 28, 2018, 10:23:59 PMand, just basically all the music (in our version of eba at least) is comprised of really generic, budgety covers of existing music
maybe, but a simple game like eba needs to have extremely broad appeal so the soundtrack couldn't really afford to be niche in any way without potentially being alienating
the soundtrack is fine for what it is imo, a rhythm game couldn't possibly appeal to everyone without turning into something like guitar hero
imo its soundtrack is
good enough to build a
great game out of and that's really what matters lol, you don't really buy or play something like eba just to listen to the music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXjY_mFS60g
brb crying what a good "level"
Yoshi's Island
Quote from: Super on September 29, 2018, 04:23:16 AMYoshi's Island
mostly agreed
similarly, i do think super mario world and super mario bros. 3 are pretty much flawless
Mario Galaxy 1 is not flawless, sorry
Quote from: Mandark on September 29, 2018, 11:08:22 AMMario Galaxy 1 is not flawless, sorry
It's the most flawless 3d Mario, that or Odyssey.
Quote from: Mandark on September 29, 2018, 11:08:22 AMMario Galaxy 1 is not flawless, sorry
explain you'resel've
inb4 super luigi galaxy lol
Super Mario Land 3
Quote from: Big Goop on September 29, 2018, 11:20:07 AMQuote from: Mandark on September 29, 2018, 11:08:22 AMMario Galaxy 1 is not flawless, sorry
It's the most flawless 3d Mario, that or Odyssey.
You're out of your gourd
Quote from: Mandark on October 01, 2018, 10:47:51 AMQuote from: Big Goop on September 29, 2018, 11:20:07 AMQuote from: Mandark on September 29, 2018, 11:08:22 AMMario Galaxy 1 is not flawless, sorry
It's the most flawless 3d Mario, that or Odyssey.
You're out of your gourd
I mean, if you say 64 or Sunshine, you're out of yours
Sunshine was fantastic
Quote from: don't let's on October 01, 2018, 11:48:13 AMSunshine was fantastic
But far from flawless
Far from even "virtually flawless"
Odyssey is the only 3D Mario I think is even close to flawless
Maybe 3d Land.
Quote from: YPrrrr on October 01, 2018, 12:18:05 PMMaybe 3d Land.
what
i thought you didn't like this one
i do like 3d land but even i think it's pretty ordinary for a mario game, although come to think of it, there's actively
wrong with it that i can come up with
also i'm still waiting to hear what's significantly wrong with galaxy 1 lol
3d world was better than 3d land
Quote from: Magyarorszag on October 01, 2018, 12:28:36 PMQuote from: YPrrrr on October 01, 2018, 12:18:05 PMMaybe 3d Land.
what
i thought you didn't like this one
i do like 3d land but even i think it's pretty ordinary for a mario game, although come to think of it, there's actively wrong with it that i can come up with
also i'm still waiting to hear what's significantly wrong with galaxy 1 lol
3d Land is good. I only hate the "new" smb games.
It is pretty ordinary but at least it's fun. Too easy maybe.
Galaxy's gravity on small planets is annoying. Camera can be finicky. It's also on the Wii so controls are subpar if you use a wiimote
Yeah, my big gripe with the Galaxy series is you could only use a Wii Remote and Nunchuk.
The Classic Controller/Classic Pro Controller should have been compatible with the game.
I ain't saying Galaxy 1 is bad I'm saying it has obvious flaws
Quote from: Mandark on October 02, 2018, 02:11:55 PMI ain't saying Galaxy 1 is bad I'm saying it has obvious flaws
such as
Quote from: YPrrrr on October 01, 2018, 01:13:17 PMGalaxy's gravity on small planets is annoying.
i personally never found this to be a problem lol
Quote from: YPrrrr on October 01, 2018, 01:13:17 PMCamera can be finicky.
the exceedingly rare few camera hiccups i had in galaxy 1 were so insignificant and so quickly/easily remedied that the camera simply never registered as an issue for me
Quote from: YPrrrr on October 01, 2018, 01:13:17 PMIt's also on the Wii
you say this like it's somehow a bad thing
Quote from: YPrrrr on October 01, 2018, 01:13:17 PMcontrols are subpar if you use a wiimote
What exactly is so awful about jiggling your wrist every so often and occasionally pointing at Star Bits? befuddlement
smg's motion controls are
so superficial it's befuddling to me that anyone could complain about them lol
Quote from: don't let's on October 01, 2018, 11:48:13 AMSunshine was fantastic
i actually agree, and i will defend this game from some of the hate it gets until the day i die, but it is honestly very deeply flawed. it's just one of those games that i think is really great despite how much of a mess it is.
Quote from: Magyarorszag on October 03, 2018, 01:07:25 AMQuote from: YPrrrr on October 01, 2018, 01:13:17 PMGalaxy's gravity on small planets is annoying.
i personally never found this to be a problem lol
Quote from: YPrrrr on October 01, 2018, 01:13:17 PMCamera can be finicky.
the exceedingly rare few camera hiccups i had in galaxy 1 were so insignificant and so quickly/easily remedied that the camera simply never registered as an issue for me
Quote from: YPrrrr on October 01, 2018, 01:13:17 PMIt's also on the Wii
you say this like it's somehow a bad thing
Quote from: YPrrrr on October 01, 2018, 01:13:17 PMcontrols are subpar if you use a wiimote
What exactly is so awful about jiggling your wrist every so often and occasionally pointing at Star Bits? befuddlement
smg's motion controls are so superficial it's befuddling to me that anyone could complain about them lol
The wiimote is a terrible controller even without the motion controls though
Shots fired
counterhottake: the wiimote is one of the best controllers nintendo has ever made when ignoring the motion controls
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 16, 2018, 10:47:51 AMcounterhottake: the wiimote is one of the best controllers nintendo has ever made when ignoring the motion controls
uld 100% rather play mario kart or ssb on an N64 controller than a Wiimote.
It's that bad
Ranking default Nintendo controllers:
1. GC
2. SNES
3. Switch
4. Wii U? I guess...
5. NES
6. N64
7. Wii Remote
but switch is literally a less ergonomic wiimote with modernized accelerometer tech, how do ya figure lol
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 16, 2018, 11:31:34 AMbut switch is literally a less ergonomic wiimote with modernized accelerometer tech, how do ya figure lol
esnt have shitty c and z buttons awkwardly positioned on a cheap feeling nunchuck
It doesn't use a shitty dpad as buttons on the right hand side
1 and 2 were worthless buttons when nunchuck was being used
Start and select were in a bad position
No 2nd analog stick on wii remote (why go backwards in time)
Switch joycons dont need to be tied together. Buttons are in standard places. 2 analog sticks. Comfortable to hold. Rumble in both controllers.
Only complaints on joycons being no analog triggers and no dpad. Also analog sticks could be better ig
Switch controller is right down there with n64 and wiimote
NES controller sucks too btw but at least it has the excuse of being ancient
Quote from: YPrrrr on October 16, 2018, 11:45:17 AMNES controller sucks too btw but at least it has the excuse of being ancient
sillydood;
Quote from: YPrrrr on October 16, 2018, 11:42:45 AMQuote from: C.Mongler on October 16, 2018, 11:31:34 AMbut switch is literally a less ergonomic wiimote with modernized accelerometer tech, how do ya figure lol
It doesnt have shitty c and z buttons awkwardly positioned on a cheap feeling nunchuck
It doesn't use a shitty dpad as buttons on the right hand side
1 and 2 were worthless buttons when nunchuck was being used
Start and select were in a bad position
No 2nd analog stick on wii remote (why go backwards in time)
Switch joycons dont need to be tied together. Buttons are in standard places. 2 analog sticks. Comfortable to hold. Rumble in both controllers.
Only complaints on joycons being no analog triggers and no dpad. Also analog sticks could be better ig
all of these things are "the wiimote is 12 years older" complaints or just wrong lol or just "i have tiny infant hands" complaints
- how are the c and z buttons shitty? they are better than literally any button on the joycon and fit a natural hand placement? lol
-again how is the dpad shitty? it works, unlike any fuckign dpad on the switch, and i'll take a right hand dpad over, ya know, literally no dpad at all and/or shitty skittle buttons being used as a dpad on joycons or even worse the expensive ass mandatory pro controller upgrade having a shit dpad
-if you have baby hands sure but i had no problem using the 1 & 2; they were almost always used as secondary buttons in this setup anyway i would need to know what games specifically this was an issue for you
-the start and select buttons are just as fine or bad as literally any other controller what are you on about here lol
-there's no second analog because it uses an IR pointer; are these serious complaints or are you spitballing here lol
-switch joycons are absolutely not comfortable to hold, don't fuck with me. and again, this is a product of bluetooth being an industry standard.
joycons are uncomfortable, they have shit mechanical problems (seriously i don't know anyone who hasn't had drift or desync issues at this point), all the buttons feel like tinker toy shit, solo joycon is the absolute worst control scheme nintendo has ever created, and literally the only reason they get a pass is because of the
switch*click* novelty
(https://i.imgur.com/bdz5qnv.jpg)
i have made you a new wii remote but don't complain that you can't use horizontal mode now okay enjoy
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 16, 2018, 12:11:33 PM(https://i.imgur.com/bdz5qnv.jpg)
i have made you a new wii remote but don't complain that you can't use horizontal mode now okay enjoy
I'll take 2
u also cannot use the nunchuck cuz we only on BT 2 out here and i removed the IR sensor just to be a dick continue having fun pls
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 16, 2018, 12:11:33 PM(https://i.imgur.com/bdz5qnv.jpg)
i have made you a new wii remote but don't complain that you can't use horizontal mode now okay enjoy
Well horizontal mode is even worse so thanks
horizontally is often the more comfortable way to use a wii remote imo
None of ypr's points are anything I have a problem with
I'll explain later I just keep forgetting
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 16, 2018, 12:04:18 PMQuote from: YPrrrr on October 16, 2018, 11:42:45 AMQuote from: C.Mongler on October 16, 2018, 11:31:34 AMbut switch is literally a less ergonomic wiimote with modernized accelerometer tech, how do ya figure lol
It doesnt have shitty c and z buttons awkwardly positioned on a cheap feeling nunchuck
It doesn't use a shitty dpad as buttons on the right hand side
1 and 2 were worthless buttons when nunchuck was being used
Start and select were in a bad position
No 2nd analog stick on wii remote (why go backwards in time)
Switch joycons dont need to be tied together. Buttons are in standard places. 2 analog sticks. Comfortable to hold. Rumble in both controllers.
Only complaints on joycons being no analog triggers and no dpad. Also analog sticks could be better ig
all of these things are "the wiimote is 12 years older" complaints or just wrong lol or just "i have tiny infant hands" complaints
- how are the c and z buttons shitty? they are better than literally any button on the joycon and fit a natural hand placement? lol
-again how is the dpad shitty? it works, unlike any fuckign dpad on the switch, and i'll take a right hand dpad over, ya know, literally no dpad at all and/or shitty skittle buttons being used as a dpad on joycons or even worse the expensive ass mandatory pro controller upgrade having a shit dpad
-if you have baby hands sure but i had no problem using the 1 & 2; they were almost always used as secondary buttons in this setup anyway i would need to know what games specifically this was an issue for you
-the start and select buttons are just as fine or bad as literally any other controller what are you on about here lol
-there's no second analog because it uses an IR pointer; are these serious complaints or are you spitballing here lol
-switch joycons are absolutely not comfortable to hold, don't fuck with me. and again, this is a product of bluetooth being an industry standard.
joycons are uncomfortable, they have shit mechanical problems (seriously i don't know anyone who hasn't had drift or desync issues at this point), all the buttons feel like tinker toy shit, solo joycon is the absolute worst control scheme nintendo has ever created, and literally the only reason they get a pass is because of the switch*click* novelty
It's a tv remote essentially. Who can press all of the buttons on a TV remote without moving their hand position? It's dumb.
They feel cheaper than a fisher price toy and have a terrible feedback when pressed.
It sucks because due to the wiimote design games will use the dpad as substitute buttons. Left dpad will be the same as square on playstation, up dpad with be the same as triangle. It's garbage.
How could you possibly use 1 and 2 if default thumb position is to rest on A? You'd have to bend your thumb 180 degrees or use your palm to press them. Or alternatively slide your hand up and down
Yay IR... gib second analog please
It's only bad if you use a single joycon which I will agree is subpar
Quote from: YPrrrr on October 16, 2018, 12:57:57 PMQuote from: C.Mongler on October 16, 2018, 12:04:18 PMQuote from: YPrrrr on October 16, 2018, 11:42:45 AMQuote from: C.Mongler on October 16, 2018, 11:31:34 AMbut switch is literally a less ergonomic wiimote with modernized accelerometer tech, how do ya figure lol
It doesnt have shitty c and z buttons awkwardly positioned on a cheap feeling nunchuck
It doesn't use a shitty dpad as buttons on the right hand side
1 and 2 were worthless buttons when nunchuck was being used
Start and select were in a bad position
No 2nd analog stick on wii remote (why go backwards in time)
Switch joycons dont need to be tied together. Buttons are in standard places. 2 analog sticks. Comfortable to hold. Rumble in both controllers.
Only complaints on joycons being no analog triggers and no dpad. Also analog sticks could be better ig
all of these things are "the wiimote is 12 years older" complaints or just wrong lol or just "i have tiny infant hands" complaints
- how are the c and z buttons shitty? they are better than literally any button on the joycon and fit a natural hand placement? lol
-again how is the dpad shitty? it works, unlike any fuckign dpad on the switch, and i'll take a right hand dpad over, ya know, literally no dpad at all and/or shitty skittle buttons being used as a dpad on joycons or even worse the expensive ass mandatory pro controller upgrade having a shit dpad
-if you have baby hands sure but i had no problem using the 1 & 2; they were almost always used as secondary buttons in this setup anyway i would need to know what games specifically this was an issue for you
-the start and select buttons are just as fine or bad as literally any other controller what are you on about here lol
-there's no second analog because it uses an IR pointer; are these serious complaints or are you spitballing here lol
-switch joycons are absolutely not comfortable to hold, don't fuck with me. and again, this is a product of bluetooth being an industry standard.
joycons are uncomfortable, they have shit mechanical problems (seriously i don't know anyone who hasn't had drift or desync issues at this point), all the buttons feel like tinker toy shit, solo joycon is the absolute worst control scheme nintendo has ever created, and literally the only reason they get a pass is because of the switch*click* novelty
It's a tv remote essentially. Who can press all of the buttons on a TV remote without moving their hand position? It's dumb.
They feel cheaper than a fisher price toy and have a terrible feedback when pressed.
It sucks because due to the wiimote design games will use the dpad as substitute buttons. Left dpad will be the same as square on playstation, up dpad with be the same as triangle. It's garbage.
How could you possibly use 1 and 2 if default thumb position is to rest on A? You'd have to bend your thumb 180 degrees or use your palm to press them. Or alternatively slide your hand up and down
Yay IR... gib second analog please
It's only bad if you use a single joycon which I will agree is subpar
But wiimote is made for tiny Japanese hands.
I can press every button on it np
New thread made for this hot topic (tm)
Yoshi's island is definitely flawed lol