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Title: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: Samus Aran on August 13, 2009, 11:02:25 AM
I just got a free old phonograph/double casette/CD combo stack with big huge speakers from a relative today. It was tough lifting that damn thing into the van, but it was worth it.

Currently listening to Led Zeppelin IV on vinyl, and unfortunately this particular record seems a bit warped and overused, as "Black Dog" is just very slightly too low pitch (though still fucking awesome), and "Rock and Roll" fades in and out. Too bad. But at least I have the album on vinyl in the first place. Crossing my fingers for Dark Side of the Moon being in better shape, I'm about to try it.

So, does anyone else here own any vinyls? Better yet, does anyone else actually have a system to play them on? And do you still do it regularly?

hocuspocus;

Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: The artist formally known on August 13, 2009, 11:26:50 AM
Well that was the big problem with vinyls, it's hard to get them to sound exactly the same with each person's setup. Sometimes the tempo was too fast on someone else's and stuff like that.

I have a turntable but never went out to get a needle, any suggestions for a place to look?
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: sans culottes on August 13, 2009, 11:31:20 AM
I've got about thirty vinyls, twenty of 'em which were my dad's. I enjoy hearing vinyls, but I really just collect them to have 'em. New vinyls have a very good sounds, but old vinyls are a little weak. All of mine are old 'cause new ones are expensive. I also hate having to screw around with tone knobs and stuff to get the right sound, and my fifty-dollar record player isn't anything too special.

I prefer listening to CD's and stuff because you always get the great sound, but I love hearing vinyl from time to time.

Also, I really hate those hipster fuckers who think they're so cool because they only listen to vinyls. They hear someone talk about how the sound is better, so they buy a Coldplay album and feel cool 'cause they're hearing it on vinyl. Personally, hearing anything made after the 80's on a vinyl ruins my retro experience.
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: Samus Aran on August 13, 2009, 11:31:39 AM
Now that I've tried three different vinyls, I'm pretty much certain that it's the player that's causing problems, because everything is just slightly too slow. Makes me wonder if it's the belt...I've heard a bit of grime on record player belts can cause things to slow slightly. Or who knows, maybe something else is wrong. Could be any number of things. Maybe it's simply that the RPM on this player is slightly inaccurate.

Reefer, I have no idea where to get new needles for record players.
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: Boogus Epirus Aurelius on August 13, 2009, 11:58:49 AM
I have well over a hundred vinyls sitting around, but they're back at my parent's house where my turntable is. I've been meaning to move it over here for some time now.

I go to flea markets all the time and most often there's someone selling mountains of them for nearly nothing.
I've got really all the classics including some far out beatles bootlegs.

I've bought some newer ones,maybe three or four,  but I tend to avoid spending more then fifteen bucks on one.

Obviously sound quality is lacking unless you enjoy the cracks and pops, which I do for a select few like a really old django reindhart album I have and this really really cool speedy west one I got last year.

Otherwise, there's really no advantage to doing so.

I love the sleeves though, the main reason I collect them. Some of the art on them isn't really justified by small jewel case inserts.
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: sans culottes on August 13, 2009, 12:05:27 PM
Quote from: Corporal Clegg on August 13, 2009, 11:58:49 AM
I love the sleeves though, the main reason I collect them. Some of the art on them isn't really justified by small jewel case inserts.
Vinyl sleeves are awesome. I'm thinking about framing one and putting it on my wall.
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: Boogus Epirus Aurelius on August 13, 2009, 12:08:29 PM
Quote from: coz on August 13, 2009, 12:05:27 PM
Vinyl sleeves are awesome. I'm thinking about framing one and putting it on my wall.


So are some of the inserts. I have this badass ELO space poster hidden away somewhere.
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: Samus Aran on August 13, 2009, 12:13:24 PM
Quote from: Corporal Clegg on August 13, 2009, 12:08:29 PM
So are some of the inserts. I have this badass ELO space poster hidden away somewhere.


yay ELO

I have A New World Record on vinyl, haven't tried it out yet. It's one of the ones I always hang up in my dorm room because I love the cover so much.

But yeah vinyl sleeves are awesome, it's nice looking at well-known covers and actually seeing them "close up." You can actually see the art well instead of squinting for details. Makes stuff like Sgt. Pepper worth owning just to look at.
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: sans culottes on August 13, 2009, 12:38:31 PM
I bought All Things Must Pass which is supposed to have a poster, but mine was used and didn't have the poster inside it. Still a great album.

While I was at that record shop in NYC, I bought this poster.

(https://www.cardboardposters.com/productimage/224181RollingStonesAltamontRaceway.jpg)

Fuck yeah, disastorous legendary concert!
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: The artist formally known on August 13, 2009, 12:40:40 PM
Quote from: coz on August 13, 2009, 12:38:31 PM
I bought All Things Must Pass which is supposed to have a poster, but mine was used and didn't have the poster inside it. Still a great album.

While I was at that record shop in NYC, I bought this poster.

(https://www.cardboardposters.com/productimage/224181RollingStonesAltamontRaceway.jpg)

Fuck yeah, disastorous legendary concert!
Security by Hell's Angels? What the fuck
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: Samus Aran on August 13, 2009, 12:45:16 PM
Quote from: reefer on August 13, 2009, 12:40:40 PM
Security by Hell's Angels? What the fuck


You've never heard about that story? It was a big deal because it turned into a huge mess and one person got stabbed to death.

QuoteOne major event in Hells Angels' history involved the December 6, 1969, Altamont Free Concert at the Altamont Speedway â,” partially documented in the 1970 film Gimme Shelter[27] â,” featuring Jefferson Airplane, The Flying Burrito Brothers, and The Rolling Stones. The Grateful Dead were also scheduled to perform but canceled at the last minute owing to the ensuing circumstances at the venue. The Angels had been hired by The Rolling Stones as crowd security for a fee which was said to include $500 worth of beer.[28] The Angels parked their motorcycles in front of the stage in order to create a buffer between the stage and the tens of thousands of concertgoers.

Crowd management proved to be difficult: many spectators were injured and four died. One was Meredith Hunter, two others were killed by a hit-and-run driver and the fourth died when he or she drowned in a puddle of water.[29] Over the course of the day, the Hells Angels became increasingly agitated as the crowd turned more aggressive. Denise Jewkes of the Ace of Cups, six months pregnant and on stage observing, was hit in the head by an empty beer bottle thrown from the crowd and wound up in the hospital with a fractured skull.[30]

At the murder trial of Hells Angel Alan Passaro, a security guard testified he heard the Hells Angels being summoned over the loudspeakers when the helicopter bearing The Rolling Stones landed. Debate after the event was over whether or not the Hells Angels were to manage security for the entire concert or just for The Rolling Stones. Sam Cutler, the Stone's agent who had arranged to pay the Hells Angels said their role was as bodyguards to the Rolling Stones. This was denied by the Hells Angels as well as others connected to the event. During the opening act of Santana, the Hells Angels surged into the crowd numerous times to keep persons off stage.[31]

By the time The Rolling Stones took stage, numerous incidents of violence had occurred both between the Hells Angels and within the crowd internally. A huge circus performer weighing over 350 pounds stripped naked and plunged through the crowd. Concert goers attempted to detain him. Several Hells Angels leaped from the stage and subdued the man with fists and pool cues. A crowd of between 4,000 and 5,000 had jammed to the very edge of the stage, and many attempted to climb onto it.[31]

The Angels used sawn-off pool cues in order to control the crowd. After one of the Angels' motor bikes was knocked over, the Angels became even more aggressive, even toward the performers onstage. Marty Balin of Jefferson Airplane was knocked unconscious following an altercation with an Angel on stage as seen in the documentary film Gimme Shelter. The Grateful Dead refused to play following the Balin incident, and left the venue.

A shoving match erupted near the stage during a rendition of the song "Under My Thumb" (not, as is commonly thought, "Sympathy for the Devil"). A concert patron by the name of Meredith Hunter produced a handgun. Hunter was stabbed to death. A Hells Angel member, Alan Passaro, was later acquitted of murder on grounds of self-defense. After the concert and critical media attention given to the HAMC, Sonny Barger went on a local California radio station to justify the actions of the Hells Angels and to present their side of the story. He claimed that violence only started once the crowd began vandalizing the Hells Angels' motorcycles. Barger would later claim that Meredith fired a shot which struck a Hells Angels member with what he described as "just a flesh wound."[32]

In 2005, after a two year exhaustive cold-case renewal of the file, the Alameda County District Attorney's office permanently closed the case. An enhanced and slowed down version of the original film footage was produced for the Police, and after examining it Alameda County Sheriff's Sgt. Scott Dudek said Passaro, who died in 1985, was the only person to stab Hunter and he did so only after Hunter pointed a handgun at the stage where the Stones were performing.

Alan Passaro is the only person that stabbed Meredith Hunter, Dudek said, adding that Passaro's lawyer confirmed his client was the sole assailant. "Passaro acted with a knife to stop Meredith Hunter from shooting."

In addition, enhanced and slowed-down footage from the film shows Hunter brandishing the handgun just before Passaro stabs him.
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: sans culottes on August 13, 2009, 12:49:27 PM
Yeah, that's pretty much the decision that made it a disaster. Four people died at that concert, there was a lot of fights, and the Hell's Angels beat the living shit out of anyone who screwed around. It was originally expected to be the west coast Woodstock, but it ended up as the event that ended the 60's.
Quote"just a flesh wound."
I lol'd
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: burzumfan420 on August 13, 2009, 01:21:45 PM
I only have My Bloody Valentine's Loveless on Vinyl, it is differently a much better experience. Vinyls are kind of expensive though and my local mom and pops store doesn't have a great collection. Mostly Dad-rock albums.
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: snorkel on August 13, 2009, 04:08:52 PM
I have quite a few (mostly local/smaller bands from whom I bought vinyls at shows), and an old Panasonic turntable. I use them when I'm feeling particularly audiophilic, because vinyls + headphones like my Grados is fairly unbeatable
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: Skylark on August 13, 2009, 04:14:49 PM
Quote from: burzumfan420 on August 13, 2009, 01:21:45 PM
I only have My Bloody Valentine's Loveless on Vinyl, it is differently a much better experience. Vinyls are kind of expensive though and my local mom and pops store doesn't have a great collection. Mostly Dad-rock albums.


Loveless on vinyl would be great.

I have some. Mostly old stuff but I have Elliott Smith's New Moon and Woods At Rear House... and CocoRosie's God Has a Voice She Speaks Through Me.

I feel like if I had my own room I would listen to music more... but I don't.
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: Hiro on August 13, 2009, 04:24:03 PM
I really need to get a record player, I even have a fresh vinyl  :(
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: famy on August 13, 2009, 04:35:53 PM
I have a few Prince albums on vinyl, For You, Prince, and Around the World In A Day.

My brother used to DJ (well, he still does) and he had a lot of records and he left a lot of them here, they're mine now. Old school stuff that was used for breakbeats, I don't completely remember everything but I remember a few Earth, Wind & Fire albums, Planet Patrol's album and some other electro shit, Commodore's Machine Gun, Life After Death, and other rap stuff that was popular in the mid 90's. ];

idk the record player broke a month or two ago, i would use it sometimes
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: Cookie on August 13, 2009, 04:40:34 PM
Yeah I have a really old one I got at a yard sale awhile back for $5. It was really cool for the first 6 months I had it but after awhile I stopped using it that much. I still play it sometimes, most of the bands I listen to still put their music on vinyl so its pretty cool.
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: sans culottes on August 13, 2009, 05:40:11 PM
Hey Kaz, thanks for reminding me to listen to ELO. Listening to A New World Record on vinyl, shit's tight.
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: jerk1 on August 17, 2009, 11:52:27 AM
i've got a good 60 electronica records with 2 turntables that I do use regularly. I got a led zeppelin record.....or is it pink floydd I'm blanking right now but a friend gave it to me.....but also I have a bunch of mars volta vinyl from way back when I actually listened to them religiously.  i have frances the mute, and then 2 picture discs one with televators
and the other with inertatic esp and they both have something on the otherside but i cant recall.
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on August 17, 2009, 11:56:48 AM
I have an old record player that has four legs and you slide a door open to get to the turntable.

As far as the records go, I've got some Tom Petty and a few nugent albums. Also, I've got the original Star Wars soundtrack (came with a poster heheheh) and The Rutles. Not much else that's noteworthy, they were all free.

Local record shop has some Tom Waits and "Remain in Light" by Talking Heads, maybe one day I'll pick them up.
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: The artist formally known on June 04, 2020, 11:55:55 PM
Bump

My mom gifted me a turntable for my wedding this year, she had setup the album Tapestry by Carole King for me and my now wife. I'm not sure if it was just a magical moment for us or that the first track, I Feel the Earth Move, was just that fucking good.

Anyways she gave me the turntable and let me borrow some my dad's records. Currently have the Carole King album, The Wall by Pink Floyd, Animals by Floyd, Agents of Fortune by Blue Oyster Cult, Led Zeppelin IV, and my wife had asked for The Wild Heart by Stevie Nicks.

Lastly my wife was playing the new Lady Gaga album Chromatica a lot on the day of our wedding when she was getting ready, since it came out the day before. I had attempted to buy the album for her when we got home on Vinyl but all the copies locally were warped beyond pliability. I ended up returning the warped copy and bought it from Urban Outfitters since they have a limited edition and found a promo code.

By the way I ended up getting a replacement needle for my earlier turn table however I later realized that there was no dust cover and the unit wasn't in great condition anyways. I ended up selling it a few years ago. Also I never even received a good working needle, the one I had to jerry-rig to fit the unit. I have to say, though I don't have a lot of experience, this brand new turntable is much lighter and seems to be more friendly too.
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: Samus Aran on June 05, 2020, 12:52:13 AM
ew 2009 kaz was really out here calling records "vinyls"

that record player i had back then was shit btw
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: YPrrrr on June 05, 2020, 08:30:26 AM
I inherited a bunch of records from my parents including multiples for the Beatles, Pink Floyd, Elton John, Bruce Springsteen, David Bowie, Michael Jackson and Queen. I wonder how many are actually the original pressings. A bunch still have posters inside the sleeves. Should really frame some of them.

So that's pretty dope. Adding them to our own collection we started after I bought Nicole a record player.

I would really like marijuana to be legalized sometime in the near future to add some zest to the record listening experience
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: The artist formally known on June 05, 2020, 11:19:14 AM
Quote from: Samus Aran on June 05, 2020, 12:52:13 AMew 2009 kaz was really out here calling records "vinyls"

that record player i had back then was shit btw
alling them vinyls not cool? i only seem them referred to as vinyls when i search them online

tbh i thought 2009 kaz was cool
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: Samus Aran on June 07, 2020, 11:27:33 PM
Quote from: reeper on June 05, 2020, 11:19:14 AM
Quote from: Samus Aran on June 05, 2020, 12:52:13 AMew 2009 kaz was really out here calling records "vinyls"

that record player i had back then was shit btw
alling them vinyls not cool? i only seem them referred to as vinyls when i search them online

tbh i thought 2009 kaz was cool

not sure if it's cool or not, i just hate calling them that. and i mostly only see people who aren't really "in the know" referring to them as such.

just doesn't really make sense - vinyl refers to the material (polyvinyl). they're vinyl records, or records.
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: The artist formally known on June 08, 2020, 06:34:41 PM
Quote from: Samus Aran on June 07, 2020, 11:27:33 PM
Quote from: reeper on June 05, 2020, 11:19:14 AM
Quote from: Samus Aran on June 05, 2020, 12:52:13 AMew 2009 kaz was really out here calling records "vinyls"

that record player i had back then was shit btw
alling them vinyls not cool? i only seem them referred to as vinyls when i search them online

tbh i thought 2009 kaz was cool

not sure if it's cool or not, i just hate calling them that. and i mostly only see people who aren't really "in the know" referring to them as such.

just doesn't really make sense - vinyl refers to the material (polyvinyl). they're vinyl records, or records.

oh yeah i refer to them as vinyl records when starting a new conversation about them, especially with people who i don't know or don't know that i have started listening to vinyls.

then i just get lazy and call them vinyls once they're queued in. calling them records just feel like im not expressing the archaic-ness of the format.

yeah i get that though, i don't like calling mechanical pencil material as lead, as it is graphite. but had to say lead many times since people just don't know.
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: silvertone on June 09, 2020, 12:25:22 AM
irl i usually refer to records as tapes
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: YPrrrr on June 09, 2020, 05:05:52 AM
We can call cassettes tapes and records vinyls but no one ever calls CDs polycarbonate plastic :/
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: strongbad on June 09, 2020, 12:20:30 PM
I used to love records when I would have people over more often. I think looking through the records, and then putting one on based on the limited collection is kind of a fun social exercise. Moreso than just choosing something to stream. But now I live in a 1 bedroom apartment and we usually just meet people out and about instead of having people over. I've thought about selling my collection just to free up space but I'd like to think that they'll get more use some day.
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: Hiro on June 09, 2020, 10:17:44 PM
minidiscs are where it's at now
but no hey I got a nice turntable as a wedding gift too, records are fun
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: Hiro on June 12, 2020, 11:38:08 PM
FLCL record arrived today wrench;
Title: Re: Vinyls and phonographs
Post by: strongbad on June 13, 2020, 03:00:32 PM
Quote from: Hiro on June 12, 2020, 11:38:08 PMFLCL record arrived today wrench;
that's tight