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i don't care how much of a tw*nk he is, you sick freaks

I never thought of Link that way until he put on that gerudo outfit in botw

As much as I love it, Samus shouldn't be.

Quote from: Big Goop on July 16, 2018, 09:26:24 PM
As much as I love it, Samus shouldn't be.

Contemporary Nintendo already does the bulk of the work on that front. smithicide;

Quote from: YPargh on July 16, 2018, 09:25:16 PM
I never thought of Link that way until he put on that gerudo outfit in botw

link has been a common subject of lewds since well before botw, lol

but yeah his popularity exploded thanks to that outfit myface;

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 16, 2018, 09:29:20 PM

Quote from: Big Goop on July 16, 2018, 09:26:24 PM
As much as I love it, Samus shouldn't be.

Contemporary Nintendo already does the bulk of the work on that front. smithicide;

I mean they literally made her in a bikini a reward in the first game

Quote from: YPargh on July 16, 2018, 09:33:32 PM

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 16, 2018, 09:29:20 PM

Quote from: Big Goop on July 16, 2018, 09:26:24 PM
As much as I love it, Samus shouldn't be.

Contemporary Nintendo already does the bulk of the work on that front. smithicide;

I mean they literally made her in a bikini a reward in the first game

that's quite different lol

that was a 5 second still image as a mild fanservice reward for completing the game exceptionally well

meanwhile she's become context-free tits&ass mcgee in recent smash games and other m

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 16, 2018, 09:30:14 PM

Quote from: YPargh on July 16, 2018, 09:25:16 PM
I never thought of Link that way until he put on that gerudo outfit in botw

link has been a common subject of lewds since well before botw, lol

but yeah his popularity exploded thanks to that outfit myface;

Well yeah, rule 34

Just talking about me

lol even the strict heteros can't help but feel teased by trap link sillydood;

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 16, 2018, 09:29:20 PM

Quote from: Big Goop on July 16, 2018, 09:26:24 PM
As much as I love it, Samus shouldn't be.

Contemporary Nintendo already does the bulk of the work on that front. smithicide;

this is true. But still...

Metroid fanservice has always been pretty tame. But the introduction of the Zero Suit really was the beginning of the end, and Nintendo made it far worse in the Smash Bros games.

I feel like these bits of fanservice were pretty tasteful, though the Zero Suit one is of course a little bit questionable lol

(http://metroid.retropixel.net/games/metroid3/m3_ending3.gif)
(http://metroid.retropixel.net/games/metroid4/m4_ending5.gif)
(http://metroid.retropixel.net/games/metroid4/m4_ending3.gif)
(http://metroid.retropixel.net/games/metroidzm/mzm_ending3.gif)
(http://metroid.retropixel.net/games/metroidzm/mzm_ending6.gif)

Outright sexualization beyond simply showing a bit of skin in a flash of feminine fanservice definitely goes against her character, though.

Fan works really don't matter in this discussion though because they're outside the realm of canon to begin with.

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 16, 2018, 09:35:44 PM

Quote from: YPargh on July 16, 2018, 09:33:32 PM

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 16, 2018, 09:29:20 PM

Quote from: Big Goop on July 16, 2018, 09:26:24 PM
As much as I love it, Samus shouldn't be.

Contemporary Nintendo already does the bulk of the work on that front. smithicide;

I mean they literally made her in a bikini a reward in the first game

that's quite different lol

that was a 5 second still image as a mild fanservice reward for completing the game exceptionally well

meanwhile she's become context-free tits&ass mcgee in recent smash games and other m

I dont think it is much different really. She never had any developed character - she was supposed to be a man through the majority of development. Then they decided it would be cool to reveal the bounty hunter was actually a woman as one of the endings which they immediately took further to strip her down as far as they could with 8 bit graphics lol

Quote from: Rin Hoshizora on July 16, 2018, 09:44:07 PM
Fan works really don't matter in this discussion though

Oh yes they do. akudood;

But yeah zero suit samus is way more sexualized than her origin for sure.

Quote from: YPargh on July 16, 2018, 09:44:47 PM

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 16, 2018, 09:35:44 PM

Quote from: YPargh on July 16, 2018, 09:33:32 PM

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 16, 2018, 09:29:20 PM

Quote from: Big Goop on July 16, 2018, 09:26:24 PM
As much as I love it, Samus shouldn't be.

Contemporary Nintendo already does the bulk of the work on that front. smithicide;

I mean they literally made her in a bikini a reward in the first game

that's quite different lol

that was a 5 second still image as a mild fanservice reward for completing the game exceptionally well

meanwhile she's become context-free tits&ass mcgee in recent smash games and other m

I dont think it is much different really. She never had any developed character - she was supposed to be a man through the majority of development. Then they decided it would be cool to reveal the bounty hunter was actually a woman as one of the endings which they immediately took further to strip her down as far as they could with 8 bit graphics lol

sure but again in practice that's basically nothing, intent of the developers be damned lol

samus as a character was just not at all sexualized by the gaming community en masse until brawl, and i will submit irrefutable evidence of such if i must

I would've argued that zero suit was less sexualized than the bikini thinh, but clearly that argument is moot now

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 16, 2018, 09:45:33 PM

Quote from: Rin Hoshizora on July 16, 2018, 09:44:07 PM
Fan works really don't matter in this discussion though

Oh yes they do. akudood;

Ok look you can't legitimately argue that my Samus baby Metroid unbirthing MS Paint art I made back in 2004 has any real indication of my own (or the fanbase's) ideas about Samus's sexuality

Quote from: Rin Hoshizora on July 16, 2018, 09:52:55 PM

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 16, 2018, 09:45:33 PM

Quote from: Rin Hoshizora on July 16, 2018, 09:44:07 PM
Fan works really don't matter in this discussion though

Oh yes they do. akudood;

Ok look you can't legitimately argue that my Samus baby Metroid unbirthing MS Paint art I made back in 2004 has any real indication of my own (or the fanbase's) ideas about Samus's sexuality

lol

but srsly they actually are extremely relevant because:

1. fanworks are difficult to avoid if you're a gamer who also happens to be an avid internet user
2. fanworks can often serve as very clear evidence of how/when/why/to what extent (etc.) a character is or became sexualized

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 16, 2018, 09:50:08 PM

Quote from: YPargh on July 16, 2018, 09:44:47 PM

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 16, 2018, 09:35:44 PM

Quote from: YPargh on July 16, 2018, 09:33:32 PM

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 16, 2018, 09:29:20 PM

Quote from: Big Goop on July 16, 2018, 09:26:24 PM
As much as I love it, Samus shouldn't be.

Contemporary Nintendo already does the bulk of the work on that front. smithicide;

I mean they literally made her in a bikini a reward in the first game

that's quite different lol

that was a 5 second still image as a mild fanservice reward for completing the game exceptionally well

meanwhile she's become context-free tits&ass mcgee in recent smash games and other m

I dont think it is much different really. She never had any developed character - she was supposed to be a man through the majority of development. Then they decided it would be cool to reveal the bounty hunter was actually a woman as one of the endings which they immediately took further to strip her down as far as they could with 8 bit graphics lol

sure but again in practice that's basically nothing, intent of the developers be damned lol

samus as a character was just not at all sexualized by the gaming community en masse until brawl, and i will submit irrefutable evidence of such if i must

yeah it's not a lot but it's still cheap sexualization. Like imagine if you beat the original Zelda and your reward was Links clothes fading out until it's a naked guy in a speedo showing off his lon lon milky white thighs. It's weird.

I will say rule 34 and she was although clearly not to the great prevalence that we see today after Nintendo put her into a full body latex suit

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 16, 2018, 09:55:12 PM

Quote from: Rin Hoshizora on July 16, 2018, 09:52:55 PM

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 16, 2018, 09:45:33 PM

Quote from: Rin Hoshizora on July 16, 2018, 09:44:07 PM
Fan works really don't matter in this discussion though

Oh yes they do. akudood;

Ok look you can't legitimately argue that my Samus baby Metroid unbirthing MS Paint art I made back in 2004 has any real indication of my own (or the fanbase's) ideas about Samus's sexuality

lol

but srsly they actually are extremely relevant because:

1. fanworks are difficult to avoid if you're a gamer who also happens to be an avid internet user
2. fanworks can often serve as very clear evidence of how/when/why/to what extent (etc.) a character is or became sexualized

No, I know, and I agree to a point. But there's a such thing as fan works that go against character to intentionally depict a creator's own fantasy version of said character. In fact, most porn is at least partly this, and much of it is this way entirely.

Because of this, I chose to say that fan works don't matter.

But I will admit that they do matter to a point.

Quote from: YPargh on July 16, 2018, 09:56:09 PM
yeah it's not a lot but it's still cheap sexualization.

sure, i can agree with that, but its practical effect on gamers' perception of samus as a sex object was nil lol

and that remained the case with metroid until brawl changed everyth

Quote from: YPargh on July 16, 2018, 09:56:09 PM
his lon lon milky white thighs.

...[glow=black,2,300]Aren't they delicious[/glow]? smithicide;

Quote from: YPargh on July 16, 2018, 09:56:09 PM
I will say rule 34

inspired by metroid was basically negligible in quantity until brawl

Quote from: Rin Hoshizora on July 16, 2018, 09:58:16 PM
No, I know, and I agree to a point. But there's a such thing as fan works that go against character to intentionally depict a creator's own fantasy version of said character. In fact, most porn is at least partly this, and much of it is this way entirely.

Because of this, I chose to say that fan works don't matter.

But I will admit that they do matter to a point.

yeah of course hentai gets fantastical but there are almost always obvious, broad, common themes that are very clearly inspired by the way a character is depicted in their source material

fanworks matter extremely strongly lol

Cortana
[Spoiler](https://i.imgur.com/p9jIyTH.png)[/spoiler]

they made her an absolute mommy in halo 4 smithicide;

requesting Link being pegged by samus!!! (the tall samus not the short manlet verision in super smash bros) !!! thanks

kirby

he is shaped like a platonic friend baddood;

Quote from: Thyme on July 17, 2018, 07:44:03 PM
a platonic friend baddood;

:O

i'm not even sure how kirby could be sexualized to begin with lol befuddlement

[spoiler]

No, please Boyah, I don't want to know. :|[/spoiler]

toad

Sonic....

Nooch

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 17, 2018, 07:51:48 PM

Quote from: Thyme on July 17, 2018, 07:44:03 PM
a platonic friend baddood;

:O

i'm not even sure how kirby could be sexualized to begin with lol befuddlement

[spoiler]

No, please Boyah, I don't want to know. :|[/spoiler]

He literally sucks things into his mouth hocuspocus;

Plus vore

Quote from: Nyerp on July 17, 2018, 07:53:44 PM
toad

looks like a literal chode

Quote from: YPargh on July 18, 2018, 03:24:03 AM
He literally sucks things into his mouth hocuspocus;

Plus vore

myface;

Bomberman is safe right??

Quote from: YPargh on July 18, 2018, 10:51:14 AM
Bomberman is safe right??

lol

Quote from: Big Goop on July 18, 2018, 10:53:30 AM

Quote from: YPargh on July 18, 2018, 10:51:14 AM
Bomberman is safe right??

lol

Is he not??? :(

the prince from katamari and all his siblings/buddies/whatever

Ellie from the last of us

Quote from: David on July 20, 2018, 09:04:08 AM
Ellie from the last of us

agreed

also, trashley (re4)

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 17, 2018, 06:16:46 PM
they made her an absolute mommy in halo 4 smithicide;

she got a little too real in h4

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310373350692356096/470371695689990144/DW4Vm8dVAAEOj8h.png)

Quote from: don't let's on July 20, 2018, 04:50:28 PM

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 17, 2018, 06:16:46 PMthey made her an absolute mommy in halo 4 smithicide;

she got a little too real in h4

so much tasteful sag putindisapproves;

[spoiler]

(https://i.imgur.com/TnBXqGd.gif)[/spoiler]

Quote from: sc2020 on July 21, 2018, 04:30:37 PM(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310373350692356096/470371695689990144/DW4Vm8dVAAEOj8h.png)

akudood;

captain olimar

• tatl

mr saturn

• imp midna, you animals
  
  

  Quote from: Hiro on July 30, 2018, 10:30:18 PMeven though i think it's gross, i understand why people are into imp midna because her design is inherently sexual-looking
  

  
  akudood;

Good thing we got Twili Midna

at least she has human proportions

and, i mean, she's also literally topless lol

and yet somehow imp midna is 10x more popular a muse for artists of all sorts

Isabelle. (http://tinyimg.io/i/0DZm54X.gif)

Goro from Mortal Kombat

you kidding me? think of what you could do with all those hands

(https://i.imgur.com/dHVBZD8.png)

Quote from: Thyme on September 16, 2018, 01:14:58 PM(https://i.imgur.com/dHVBZD8.png)

for a second i thought i was in the never ever thread and was about to comment 'do people seriously want this literally who in smash' lol

The answer: probably. SocksDood;

Quote from: Thyme on September 16, 2018, 01:14:58 PM(https://i.imgur.com/dHVBZD8.png)

Too late

well we can cut toad from the list (https://kotaku.com/stormy-daniels-says-donald-trump-has-a-dick-like-the-m-1829130895)

As if a mushroom man is ever going to not be sexualized

it's open season for toad now thanks to peachette anyway smth;

Quote from: Magyarorszag on September 16, 2018, 01:40:52 PMfor a second i thought i was in the never ever thread and was about to comment 'do people seriously want this literally who in smash' lol

The answer: probably. SocksDood;

i do want hat kid in smash yes hocuspocus;

Quote from: C.Mongler on September 18, 2018, 08:11:16 AMwell we can cut toad from the list (https://kotaku.com/stormy-daniels-says-donald-trump-has-a-dick-like-the-m-1829130895)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgTff9S2278

Bowser O_0

and yet this comic spawned a ton of Bowser fanart in the past couple days: https://twitter.com/ayyk92/status/1042465252221181954

this kinda reminds me of how the Fate series just takes random guys and turns them into standard anime girls

I immediately hated this shit

the straights are at it again

Quote from: Big Goop on September 23, 2018, 06:28:50 PMI immediately hated this shit

you hate everything that becomes popular on social media though so that's not surprising

i don't really mind this whole thing

Quote from: Samus Aran on September 23, 2018, 11:31:30 PM

Quote from: Big Goop on September 23, 2018, 06:28:50 PMI immediately hated this shit

you hate everything that becomes popular on social media though so that's not surprising

i don't really mind this whole thing

Not everything and you know that.
Just most recent things.

Quote from: bluaki on September 23, 2018, 06:03:59 PMBowser O_0

and yet this comic spawned a ton of Bowser fanart in the past couple days: https://twitter.com/ayyk92/status/1042465252221181954

this kinda reminds me of how the Fate series just takes random guys and turns them into standard anime girls

Hmm, yes, terrible. Simply terrible. (http://tinyimg.io/i/9GJvxxL.gif)(https://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/sadstalin.png)

I can only hope that these deviant perverts won't think to combine Peach with something like a Boo next. Wouldn't that be disturbing? (http://tinyimg.io/i/9GJvxxL.gif)myface;

Quote from: Samus Aran on July 16, 2018, 09:58:16 PM

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 16, 2018, 09:55:12 PM

Quote from: Rin Hoshizora on July 16, 2018, 09:52:55 PM

Quote from: Magyarorszag on July 16, 2018, 09:45:33 PM

Quote from: Rin Hoshizora on July 16, 2018, 09:44:07 PMFan works really don't matter in this discussion though

Oh yes they do. akudood;

Ok look you can't legitimately argue that my Samus baby Metroid unbirthing MS Paint art I made back in 2004 has any real indication of my own (or the fanbase's) ideas about Samus's sexuality

lol

but srsly they actually are extremely relevant because:

1. fanworks are difficult to avoid if you're a gamer who also happens to be an avid internet user
2. fanworks can often serve as very clear evidence of how/when/why/to what extent (etc.) a character is or became sexualized

No, I know, and I agree to a point. But there's a such thing as fan works that go against character to intentionally depict a creator's own fantasy version of said character. In fact, most porn is at least partly this, and much of it is this way entirely.

Because of this, I chose to say that fan works don't matter.

But I will admit that they do matter to a point.

i want to illustrate the extent to which they do matter, whether we agree that they should or not:

metroid came out in 1986

in the 21 years between the original metroid and the late 2007 reveal of zero suit samus in brawl, there were just six entries for "samus_aran" on gelbooru, and only three of those are even slightly nsfw

then there were 43 pages of new samus content inspired by brawl lol

she had been basically completely ignored by hentai artists for 20+ years up until she became much more visible in brawl and then just exploded in popularity

and then followed other m, which added a few more pages

and then came her smash 4 reveal around april 2014, which generated another ~70 pages of new content, and now there's a total of 119 pages of results for samus_aran following another boost thanks to ultimate lol

and again this is a character who was practically invisible before brawl (also compare: wii fit trainer's popularity before and since smash 4)

metroid is such a relatively niche series compared to smash that samus' depiction in smash colors the way she's perceived by the gaming community as a whole much more than actual metroid games do, lol

and that is very clearly reflected in 119 pages of highly scientific booru evidence that took me several hours of very hard research

so fanworks truly do matter because:

1. they are difficult to avoid if you're a gamer who also happens to be an avid internet user
2. they can often serve as very clear evidence of how/when/why/to what extent (etc.) a character is or became sexualized

Ridley. putindisapproves;

Quote from: bluaki on November 04, 2018, 05:42:38 AM

Quote from: Samus Aran on November 04, 2018, 03:41:44 AMtec just wants ridley to be more fuckable

https://twitter.com/Viiperfish/status/1044663888527183877

and here's one that predates peachette by a decade:
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/203294

also Zerg-Kerrigan (from Starcraft) is design-wise a lot like a humanoid female Ridley.

kerrigan is fair game though dittodood;