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Title: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: reeper on June 11, 2009, 10:17:16 PM
Holy shit it's beautiful. Remember when I posted about it two years ago? Shit it now is awesome. A cleaner default theme too. It scrolls unlike iTunes for some reason for me.

http://getsongbird.com/

Still lets you upload songs to your iPod or Zune.

(http://getsongbird.com/images/screenshots/111/songbird-1.1-screenshot-full.jpg)
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Hiro on June 11, 2009, 11:03:12 PM
Yeah.... I've been using this for many months now...
But seriously, I really like it. It has a few problems with album art and whatnot, but a good app overall. thumbup;
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: reeper on June 11, 2009, 11:15:10 PM
Quote from: Hïro on June 11, 2009, 11:03:12 PM
Yeah.... I've been using this for many months now...
But seriously, I really like it. It has a few problems with album art and whatnot, but a good app overall. thumbup;
Problems with album art? I'm so glad there is an automatic find album art tool. Jesus yes.

The biggest cons I've found is no CD rip or burn on default and my time for like 5% of my songs is disappeared though if I play the song it will sometimes work, and there is no smart shuffle (Plays all the songs in my library on shuffle but the ones with more play count get played more.)

Jesus I can't wait til they let you put videos on here, once they do I'll pretty much have my own personal TV station.
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Daphnia on June 12, 2009, 08:05:04 PM
It looks like iTunes, but ugly.

What's wrong with iTunes?
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: guff on June 12, 2009, 09:31:34 PM
Quote from: reefer on June 11, 2009, 11:15:10 PM
Problems with album art? I'm so glad there is an automatic find album art tool. Jesus yes.

The biggest cons I've found is no CD rip or burn on default and my time for like 5% of my songs is disappeared though if I play the song it will sometimes work, and there is no smart shuffle (Plays all the songs in my library on shuffle but the ones with more play count get played more.)

Jesus I can't wait til they let you put videos on here, once they do I'll pretty much have my own personal TV station.
you realize itunes has all that right
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Feynman on June 12, 2009, 09:37:47 PM
this man obviously has an irrational fear of itunes
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Daddy on June 12, 2009, 10:48:17 PM
I've never had any problem with iTunes.
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Samus Aran on June 13, 2009, 12:56:25 PM
Why are you using an uglier mock-up of iTunes? It's basically the same program except less shiny.
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Hiro on June 13, 2009, 11:59:54 PM
Quote from: Kaz on June 13, 2009, 12:56:25 PM
Why are you using an uglier mock-up of iTunes? It's basically the same program except less shiny.
It also has a built-in web browser and add-ons.
It's like a combo of iTunes and Firefox.
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Samus Aran on June 14, 2009, 01:51:53 AM
Quote from: Hïro on June 13, 2009, 11:59:54 PM
It also has a built-in web browser and add-ons.
It's like a combo of iTunes and Firefox.


pardon my logic but um why would you want to browse the internet from that anyway when you have your main firefox browser
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Wrench on June 14, 2009, 06:21:06 AM
or you just buy a Sony Walkman mp3 player and not have to install a program. All you do is literally drag and drop onto "Content Transfer"
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Feynman on June 14, 2009, 09:01:23 AM
Quote from: Ken on June 14, 2009, 01:51:53 AM
pardon my logic but um why would you want to browse the internet from that anyway when you have your main firefox browser


because you CAN
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: guff on June 14, 2009, 11:12:48 AM
Quote from: Wrench on June 14, 2009, 06:21:06 AM
or you just buy a Sony Walkman mp3 player and not have to install a program. All you do is literally drag and drop onto "Content Transfer"
i don't think you understand what we're talking about here  doodhuh;
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: ME## on October 04, 2014, 01:19:55 PM
RIP Songbird
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Samus Aran on October 04, 2014, 01:59:05 PM
it's already been more than a year since songbird died tho
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: ME## on October 04, 2014, 03:26:23 PM
Quote from: Platinum the Trinity on October 04, 2014, 01:59:05 PM
it's already been more than a year since songbird died tho
yeah, i just saw a "guest" viewing it lol
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Daddy on October 06, 2014, 06:28:56 AM
songbird sucked it's ok
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: reeper on October 06, 2014, 12:31:56 PM
it had potential
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Hiro on October 07, 2014, 10:20:04 PM
there aren't really any good music players anymore
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Daddy on October 11, 2014, 06:11:08 AM
what do you mean hiro
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Hiro on October 11, 2014, 12:04:52 PM
as far as windows apps there's nothing i'm a big fan of these days. zune was good but has been abandoned, itunes is horrid, foobar is alright but doesn't work the way i want it to, same with musicbee, clementine is meh, mediamonkey is fugly, same with winamp. I usually just use Spotify because it's easy and I'm lazy, but it sucks with local files so I'll whip out MusicBee for that
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: reeper on October 13, 2014, 07:35:17 PM
Quote from: y-i on October 11, 2014, 12:04:52 PM
as far as windows apps there's nothing i'm a big fan of these days. zune was good but has been abandoned, itunes is horrid, foobar is alright but doesn't work the way i want it to, same with musicbee, clementine is meh, mediamonkey is fugly, same with winamp. I usually just use Spotify because it's easy and I'm lazy, but it sucks with local files so I'll whip out MusicBee for that
this is how i feel.
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: strongbad on October 14, 2014, 02:40:44 PM
foobar is great
if it doesnt work well enough then you need to customize it more you lazy bum
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Hiro on October 16, 2014, 11:46:22 PM
i've tried a bunch of different skins and extensions and stuff to change the ui, and they only ever look good or work okay, not both. even still the columns facets ui is the closest extension i've found to how i want it to work, but even then i still don't like the queuing system, and with columns facets ui you basically can't skin it
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Hiro on October 22, 2014, 12:31:26 AM
WELL I DECIDED TO GIVE FOOBAR ANOTHER FUCKING TRY AND I FUCKING HATE COMPUTERS AND FOOBAR IS A GIANT PIECE OF SHIT
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on October 22, 2014, 01:02:23 AM
ive tried to find good foobar skins but every one of them is from 2009 and are not supported anymore.

foobar plays all the file types tho (or u can make it play all the file types) and it looks better than vlc player
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Hiro on October 22, 2014, 02:13:08 AM
Quote from: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo on October 22, 2014, 01:02:23 AM
ive tried to find good foobar skins but every one of them is from 2009 and are not supported anymore.

foobar plays all the file types tho (or u can make it play all the file types) and it looks better than vlc player
yes i'll agree with most of that but you can also skin vlc and it actually functions properly with the skins
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Daddy on November 09, 2014, 06:47:12 AM
what exactly does foobar not do that somehow songbird or zuneshit did for you?
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: strongbad on November 09, 2014, 06:30:28 PM
i actually liked the zune software a lot but it didnt work with last.fm or have a lot of the file management stuff that foobar has that i like a lot
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Hiro on November 10, 2014, 02:14:57 AM
Quote from: udderfailure on November 09, 2014, 06:30:28 PM
i actually liked the zune software a lot but it didnt work with last.fm or have a lot of the file management stuff that foobar has that i like a lot
yeah pretty much

also jmv songbird was never very good
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Daddy on November 10, 2014, 08:06:54 AM
i know songbird was never very good i've always said it sucked.

i had tried it many times since the beta in 2006 and every time I got awful performance, excessive crashes, etc.  It sucked every time I gave it a chance over the years.

also

Quote from: y-i on June 11, 2009, 11:03:12 PM
Yeah.... I've been using this for many months now...
But seriously, I really like it. It has a few problems with album art and whatnot, but a good app overall. thumbup;
lul




but what features are you looking in a music player that foobar doesn't offer?  i wasn't trying to be a dick about it and was trying to point you somehwere you maybe haven't looked.


Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: strongbad on November 10, 2014, 09:30:55 AM
foobar is kind of jenky overall
like i can see why people dislike it
but if you are really on top of your library organization and optimization of foobar you can make it a really good player
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: strongbad on November 10, 2014, 10:28:47 AM
also i've found that i actually really like google music

tmobile lets me stream it without using my data which is sweet
and i can upload my entire library to it
they do a good job with instant mixes and the interface (besides the listen now section which sucks) is easy to use
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Daddy on November 10, 2014, 02:06:55 PM
Until you hit the 20k limit fucking lol


I just use Subsonic (or Musiccabinet or MadSonic) .   Currently using MadSonic

just stream to my phone using dSub or stream through the browser if i'm not home and i'm good

Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: silvertone on November 11, 2014, 12:08:39 PM
wmp is the best imo
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Hiro on November 12, 2014, 08:53:25 PM
yes because my opinions on software have stayed the same in the past 5 years
at the time it was okay, never had it crash on me or anything, i probably said that when it was new to me and seemed like it had potential

Quote from: Khadafi on November 10, 2014, 08:06:54 AM
i wasn't trying to be a dick about it and was trying to point you somehwere you maybe haven't looked.
i don't even know what you mean by this comment

and i wouldn't say there's a specific "feature" but you basically have to decide between having it look nice or work nicely
i like the ui logic of zune, and the closest i've come to having that is the facets extension on foobar, but that uses the default ui that looks like crap
trust me jmv I used foobar exclusively for like 2 or 3 years and tried quite a few different things for it. been using musicbee for the past year and a half now and it's just okay as well but spotify has made me lazy

Quote from: udderfailure on November 10, 2014, 10:28:47 AM
also i've found that i actually really like google music

tmobile lets me stream it without using my data which is sweet
and i can upload my entire library to it
they do a good job with instant mixes and the interface (besides the listen now section which sucks) is easy to use
does it actually not count with tmobile now? i knew they were adding it but I thought it was still being counted currently. soon i plan on wiping my play music library and re-uploading everything since it was really disorganized when i started using it. the android app is great though, and i like that it integrates my local files seamlessly with it.

Quote from: Khadafi on November 10, 2014, 02:06:55 PM
Until you hit the 20k limit fucking lol


I just use Subsonic (or Musiccabinet or MadSonic) .   Currently using MadSonic

just stream to my phone using dSub or stream through the browser if i'm not home and i'm good

I used Subsonic in like 2011 or something and at the time it was alright but the android app got very outdated and i think i had some other problem with it that i can't recall
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: silvertone on November 13, 2014, 02:08:13 AM
there is a ghost in my media player
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Daddy on November 14, 2014, 03:09:08 PM
pay 2 bucks for dsub and you got a good android app.

use jamstash in your browser

Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: strongbad on November 16, 2014, 11:27:57 AM
idk if it does for every t mobile plan but it definitely does for mine
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Hiro on November 16, 2014, 12:01:56 PM
Quote from: udderfailure on November 16, 2014, 11:27:57 AM
idk if it does for every t mobile plan but it definitely does for mine
well i mean the music thing applies, i just didn't think play music was on their approved list yet
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: squirrelfriend on April 19, 2016, 09:25:05 AM
Did this program contain malware? I didn't understand the purpose of this program as it didn't contain any unique UI.
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: don't let's on April 20, 2016, 10:48:15 PM
Quote from: ʜɨɍɵ҈҈ on November 12, 2014, 08:53:25 PM
been using musicbee for the past year and a half now and it's just okay as well but spotify has made me lazy
I just recently started using musicbee
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: strongbad on April 21, 2016, 12:43:03 AM
what is musicbee is it good

i was enjoying google music but they've had some UI changes that suck and it also doesn't sync with last.fm that well so i'm open to changes. i like the fact that my music on it feels like "my music" since i have to upload it myself but i also dont like how i dont have access to my music w/o wifi and it burns my data (unless i go back to my baller US plan with t mobile that gave me free goog music usage)

thinkin' about looking for the best ubuntu program i can find
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: silvertone on April 21, 2016, 02:58:34 AM
i used music bee for a bit, but i didnt like the UI and switched back to wmp.


i wish i could get the pre-genius Itunes because that was the perfect music player back when i had a mac. now it's all garbagio
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: C.Mongler on April 21, 2016, 06:57:33 AM
i still use itunes in 2016 AMA
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: silvertone on April 21, 2016, 07:00:41 AM
Quote from: C.Mongler on April 21, 2016, 06:57:33 AM
i still use itunes in 2016 AMA
does it  run fine on ur windows comp? it didn't on my old crapbox
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: C.Mongler on April 21, 2016, 07:05:22 AM
i guess? it's a little slow at indexing shit sometimes, but i also have like 200 GB of music so i cut the ole' gal some slack

never really like crashes or hogs memory or anything though naw
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: don't let's on April 21, 2016, 07:31:51 AM
Quote from: C.Mongler on April 21, 2016, 06:57:33 AM
i still use itunes in 2016 AMA
how do you live with yourself
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: silvertone on April 21, 2016, 07:33:37 AM
does it play wma?
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: don't let's on April 21, 2016, 07:40:03 AM
Quote from: SVT on April 21, 2016, 02:58:34 AM
i used music bee for a bit, but i didnt like the UI and switched back to wmp.


i wish i could get the pre-genius Itunes because that was the perfect music player back when i had a mac. now it's all garbagio
I actually don't mind wmp, and I liked it's UI. And I'd probably still be using it but I switched over to media monkey for a while so I could rip in flac and for some of the auto tagging options.

Then I got into musicbee more recently and I like the now playing tab setup where it can have the cover art (or whatever), and the lyrics, and the track list displayed. And its pretty small download size.

And I don't really care about customization in music players too much and most skins look like trash.
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: C.Mongler on April 21, 2016, 07:43:13 AM
Quote from: ­..............................­ on April 21, 2016, 07:31:51 AM
Quote from: C.Mongler on April 21, 2016, 06:57:33 AM
i still use itunes in 2016 AMA
how do you live with yourself


i take it one day at a time buddy

Quote from: SVT on April 21, 2016, 07:33:37 AM
does it play wma?


that's the hardest part, it doesn't; i love my wma's :(
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: silvertone on April 21, 2016, 07:49:37 AM
Quote from: ­..............................­ on April 21, 2016, 07:40:03 AM
Quote from: SVT on April 21, 2016, 02:58:34 AM
i used music bee for a bit, but i didnt like the UI and switched back to wmp.


i wish i could get the pre-genius Itunes because that was the perfect music player back when i had a mac. now it's all garbagio
I actually don't mind wmp, and I liked it's UI. And I'd probably still be using it but I switched over to media monkey for a while so I could rip in flac and for some of the auto tagging options.

Then I got into musicbee more recently and I like the now playing tab setup where it can have the cover art (or whatever), and the lyrics, and the track list displayed. And its pretty small download size.

And I don't really care about customization in music players too much and most skins look like trash.
  i like the bloated simpleness of wmp, honestly my only complaints i have w/ wmp is it has no 'recently added" playlist or flac support.
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on April 23, 2016, 03:47:21 PM
i use foobar still
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: strongbad on April 23, 2016, 10:02:18 PM
i loved foobar when i used windows but it could be a pain to configure sometimes

however whenever it was configured perfectly it was amazing
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: reeper on April 24, 2016, 09:57:36 PM
foobar is oogly
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: strongbad on April 24, 2016, 10:49:49 PM
Quote from: reefer on April 24, 2016, 09:57:36 PM
foobar is oogly

there are some beautiful foobar builds ive seen but ive never gotten any to work or gotten it to look nearly as pretty as others have ;-;
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: squirrelfriend on April 25, 2016, 09:08:48 PM
is there a lightweight spotify client because i use spotify pretty much
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: don't let's on April 25, 2016, 11:05:51 PM
I've just been using the web player (https://play.spotify.com/) for spotify. Even though the ui is wonky in places. But adblock filters out all the ads.
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: Daddy on April 26, 2016, 08:39:25 AM
Quote from: antmaster5000 on April 24, 2016, 10:49:49 PM
Quote from: reefer on April 24, 2016, 09:57:36 PM
foobar is oogly

there are some beautiful foobar builds ive seen but ive never gotten any to work or gotten it to look nearly as pretty as others have ;-;
Yeah What.cd has a "Share your foobar config" thread where people just post screencaps but SHARE NOTHING



I have some foobar theme that im getting kind of tired of and it kind of sucks for Chinese + korean text so i wanna switch it up but can't find anythign as nice looking

I usually just use Subsonic (Madsonic fork really) since that works just as well
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: strongbad on April 26, 2016, 09:12:34 AM
i've tried to get some themes to work that i've found on google and i download and install the components (i think that's how it worked- it's been a minute) and it just never works how it should

maybe i need more patience
Title: Re: Song Bird - No more shitty iTunes
Post by: [hedy]Zidone on April 27, 2016, 01:27:45 AM
i switched to musicbee from foobar because it handles podcasts a lot better

unless it's changed recently, all foobar has is a basic plugin that hasn't been updated in 5 years and runs horribly if you subscribe to anything with a lot of backlog episodes