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Title: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: bluaki on August 16, 2018, 10:11:09 AM
https://gematsu.com/2018/08/rumor-new-super-mario-bros-u-and-new-super-luigi-u-coming-to-switch

According to several supposedly-credible leakers, the New Super Mario Bros U + New Super Luigi U bundle is coming to Switch later this year. It's unconfirmed of course but knowing Nintendo I don't doubt it at all.

I feel like the New Super Mario Bros series of all things deserves a "New Super Mario All-Stars" release that bundles them all together instead of charging probably full price for a barely-enhanced (if at all) port of just one of them. It's especially silly if they end up with a Switch release that has "U" in its title.
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: C.Mongler on August 16, 2018, 10:18:16 AM
yeah i'm curious if they are changing the name lol, and i agree it would be cool if they just brought all 4 of the shits over and called it a day


then the like 5 people who like these games and want a new one can shut the fuck up (though i did actually like U it was p good)
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: TooB on August 16, 2018, 10:20:33 AM
I still think the Wii one was the best overall
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: bluaki on August 16, 2018, 10:24:57 AM
Quote from: C.Mongler on August 16, 2018, 10:18:16 AMyeah i'm curious if they are changing the name lol, and i agree it would be cool if they just brought all 4 of the shits over and called it a day


then the like 5 people who like these games and want a new one can shut the fuck up (though i did actually like U it was p good)
The main reason I'd like to see them bundled is honestly just bringing them all into HD with the NSMBU-quality assets, especially the original DS New Super Mario Bros. All-Stars is a great comparison for that since it brought all the NES SMB games into a newly enhanced graphical style.

And I agree, I actually really liked New Super Mario Bros U. It's my favorite game in the series, even if it was an extremely underwhelming release in context because of the similarities with previous games and very close release date to NSMB2.

Quote from: Big Goop on August 16, 2018, 10:20:33 AMI still think the Wii one was the best overall
NSMB Wii was good, but my biggest complaint with it is that all the level designs are overly spacious, obviously to accommodate 4-player multiplayer. NSMB U also has 4P but somehow didn't seem to hinder the 1P level designs for it.
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: TooB on August 16, 2018, 10:33:50 AM
I never noticed levels being "too spacious."

Idk
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: Thyme on August 16, 2018, 10:48:44 AM
Quote from: bluaki on August 16, 2018, 10:11:09 AMI feel like the New Super Mario Bros series of all things deserves a "New Super Mario All-Stars" release that bundles them all together instead of charging probably full price for a barely-enhanced (if at all) port of just one of them. It's especially silly if they end up with a Switch release that has "U" in its title.

blergh, no

they're not different enough from each other

when you own one, you own them all




and i'm still waiting for my super mario maker port :(
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: TooB on August 16, 2018, 10:54:28 AM
I was actually gonna post that someone would say this about giving them an allstars treatment lol
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: bluaki on August 16, 2018, 10:59:07 AM
Quote from: Thyme on August 16, 2018, 10:48:44 AM
Quote from: bluaki on August 16, 2018, 10:11:09 AMI feel like the New Super Mario Bros series of all things deserves a "New Super Mario All-Stars" release that bundles them all together instead of charging probably full price for a barely-enhanced (if at all) port of just one of them. It's especially silly if they end up with a Switch release that has "U" in its title.

blergh, no

they're not different enough from each other

when you own one, you own them all
That's kinda the reason I want (or would expect) them to be bundled together: they're all close enough to being level packs of each other that Nintendo should be able to very easily throw all of them together with the same engine and assets.
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: C.Mongler on August 16, 2018, 11:45:32 AM
>run mariomaker.exe
>import nsmb.nds nsmbwii.iso nsmb2.3ds nsmbu.iso
>export nsmball-stars.switch


there i did it for you nintendo argh;
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: bluaki on August 16, 2018, 12:05:58 PM
Quote from: C.Mongler on August 16, 2018, 11:45:32 AM>run mariomaker.exe
>import nsmb.nds nsmbwii.iso nsmb2.3ds nsmbu.iso
>export nsmball-stars.switch


there i did it for you nintendo argh;
Realistically, porting the entire series to the NSMBU engine basically amounts to, of what I can remember:
1. Recreating the levels, mostly with all the same NSMBU graphical assets but maybe just a few pieces would need to be redrawn
2. Recreate the world maps
3. Reimplementing the Gold Block, Gold Flower, Raccoon Suit, Mega Mushroom, and Blue Shell powerups
4. Adding back some controls for those rotating tilting platforms in NSMBWii since I think those were absent in NSMBU

and I think that's it. I don't think there are even any substantial physics differences between the games. That's well within the scope of what a single homebrew developer could do, so it's basically negligible effort at Nintendo's scale.
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: TooB on August 16, 2018, 12:14:03 PM
They'll all come to switch eventually...

And as separate  $60 releases

WAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: bluaki on August 16, 2018, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: Big Goop on August 16, 2018, 12:14:03 PMThey'll all come to switch eventually...

And as separate  $60 releases

WAHAHAHA
Nintendo would make Wario proud. Or jealous.

Next up: New Super Wario
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: TooB on August 16, 2018, 12:23:40 PM
Quote from: bluaki on August 16, 2018, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: Big Goop on August 16, 2018, 12:14:03 PMThey'll all come to switch eventually...

And as separate  $60 releases

WAHAHAHA
Nintendo would make Wario proud. Or jealous.

Next up: New Super Wario

Real talk, I would love a new proper wario sidescroller.
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: ClassicTyler on August 16, 2018, 01:54:02 PM
I'd rather have Super Mario Maker Switch
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: C.Mongler on August 16, 2018, 02:34:41 PM
i mean i think most of us would like infinite mario levels instead of finite mario levels cmongler;
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: bluaki on August 16, 2018, 07:27:46 PM
The number "15" in the title wasn't completely made up from nowhere and I can actually name 14 other games that can arguably be technically considered ports from Wii U to Switch, although I fudged the criteria a little for the sake of exaggeration sillydood;

There's the 8 Nintendo-published ones:
1. Breath of the Wild
2. Mario Kart 8
3. Pokken
4. Bayonetta
5. Bayonetta 2
6. DKC Tropical Freeze
7. Hyrule Warriors
8. Captain Toad

Some third-party games I know of that initially launched on Wii U:
9. Runbow (launched as Wii U exclusive, later ported to Windows/PS4/XB1/3DS/Switch)
10. Puyo Puyo Tetris (launched on Wii U alongside PS3/Vita/3DS)
11. Rayman Legends (launched on Wii U alongside PS3/360/Windows)

and some more third-party games that at least had Wii U as their first console port:
12. Freedom Planet (launched on PC, Wii U port predates PS4 by 2 years)
13. Shovel Knight (launched on PC, Wii U port predates PlayStation/Xbox by 1 year)
14. Shantae and the Pirate's Curse (launched on 3DS, Wii U port predates PS4/XB1 by 2 years)

There might be a couple more third-party games that fit this criteria that I don't know about. Probably all indies.

I'd want to count Splatoon and Smash Bros since the Switch sequels effectively make those original Wii U games irrelevant, but no matter how you argue it they really aren't ports at all.
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: ClassicTyler on August 16, 2018, 07:54:35 PM
Go Vacation was actually a Wii game ported to Switch lmao
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 17, 2018, 08:21:41 PM
Quote from: bluaki on August 16, 2018, 10:11:09 AMI feel like the New Super Mario Bros series of all things deserves a "New Super Mario All-Stars" release that bundles them all together instead of charging probably full price for a barely-enhanced (if at all) port of just one of them.

i wholeheartedly agree with this, but if nintendo rereleases them all piecemeal, gamers will happily buy them all piecemeal, so nintendo has no reason to ever put together something like a (nu-)super mario all stars ever again lol (http://tinyimg.io/i/Mg8xNAI.gif)

at least this port of nsmb&luigi u would finally give the excuse i need to pick up luigi u, i guess awdood;
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 17, 2018, 08:25:21 PM
Quote from: bluaki on August 16, 2018, 12:05:58 PMand I think that's it. I don't think there are even any substantial physics differences between the games. That's well within the scope of what a single homebrew developer could do, so it's basically negligible effort at Nintendo's scale.

remember: this is the same company that regularly puts out slop like amiibo festival, twilight princess """hd""", star fox zero, mario tennis: ultra smashed, a new console literally prefixed """new""", etc.

it's the same company that can't even emulate its own games on its own virtual console platform correctly

to expect even "negligible effort" from nintendo is to have extremely high expectations of nintendo
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: bluaki on August 17, 2018, 09:39:13 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 17, 2018, 08:21:41 PMi wholeheartedly agree with this, but if nintendo rereleases them all piecemeal, gamers will happily buy them all piecemeal, so nintendo has no reason to ever put together something like a (nu-)super mario all stars ever again lol (http://tinyimg.io/i/Mg8xNAI.gif)

at least this port of nsmb&luigi u would finally give the excuse i need to pick up luigi u, i guess awdood;
I think pushing out separate rereleases of the NSMB games is too far even for Nintendo. The NSMB games absolutely don't stand out from each other enough for it to make sense to have all of them on the same console's shelves next to each other.

More likely, they'll never make an enhanced rerelease of any of the other three NSMB games. I would say they'd stick to just emulating the original versions, but at this point I sincerely doubt they'll even do that.

Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 17, 2018, 08:25:21 PMremember: this is the same company that regularly puts out slop like amiibo festival, twilight princess """hd""", star fox zero, mario tennis: ultra smashed, a new console literally prefixed """new""", etc.
Is there anything wrong with Twilight Princess HD?

Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 17, 2018, 08:25:21 PM
Quote from: bluaki on August 16, 2018, 12:05:58 PMand I think that's it. I don't think there are even any substantial physics differences between the games. That's well within the scope of what a single homebrew developer could do, so it's basically negligible effort at Nintendo's scale.
it's the same company that can't even emulate its own games on its own virtual console platform correctly

to expect even "negligible effort" from nintendo is to have extremely high expectations of nintendo
Like the negligible effort it'd take to support save backups to SD card on Wii U and Switch?
Or the negligible effort it'd take to support Wii U Pro Controller in the settings menu?
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 18, 2018, 05:32:37 PM
Quote from: bluaki on August 17, 2018, 09:39:13 PMMore likely, they'll never make an enhanced rerelease of any of the other three NSMB games.

i agree that this is far more likely, especially considering that two of the four nsmb games are still directly playable on nintendo's most recent handheld lol

so there's hardly a point in remaking/rereleasing them separately, but nintendo is also way too stingy and lazy to put them all together in a nu-super mario all-stars-esque bundle

the nsmb+luigi u port will be just that and very little (if anything) else

Quote from: bluaki on August 17, 2018, 09:39:13 PMIs there anything wrong with Twilight Princess HD?

it's absolutely disgusting

(https://i.imgur.com/KeEePii.png)

not that what's-her-name-again was ever a looker but oh my god

it's pretty much universally agreed upon that tp is ęsthetically ugly, and the hd port of tp presented nintendo with an ideal opportunity to de-uglify the game

instead they took the easiest and cheapest route they possibly could and simply upscaled the textures, shat out an amiibo and called it a day

and that had the effect of exaggerating tp's ugliness

tp ""'hd""" is probably one of the more pure examples of nintendo's inexcusable laziness

Quote from: bluaki on August 17, 2018, 09:39:13 PMLike the negligible effort it'd take to support save backups to SD card on Wii U and Switch?
Or the negligible effort it'd take to support Wii U Pro Controller in the settings menu?

Y-yeah. (http://tinyimg.io/i/E8KZ1XX.gif)
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: bluaki on August 18, 2018, 05:42:02 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 18, 2018, 05:32:37 PMi agree that this is far more likely, especially considering that two of the four nsmb games are still directly playable on nintendo's most recent handheld lol
I don't think backwards compatibility is Nintendo's biggest consideration about what not to port

considering Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story is getting a port from DS to 3DS. They already ported Superstar Saga (from GBA) and strangely skipped Partners In Time.
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: Nyerp on August 18, 2018, 06:39:48 PM
wasn't wind waker hd also a bloom-drenched nightmare?
Title: Re: Wii U Switch Ports Volume 15: New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Post by: TooB on August 18, 2018, 06:46:55 PM
No