Does it change your opinion on a band's music if/when a musician in that band is a dick/complete asshole?
I'm a big fall of the Fall of Troy and it's pretty much common knowledge that their frontman is a complete asshole, but I still really like the band.
Between the Buried and Me is also a favorite of mine but when I saw them last summer, everybody except the rhythm guitarist was walking in a group and I waved at them and said what a good show they put on. My friend and myself were the only ones there that passed them, it was an empty sidewalk. They clearly noticed me but walked on by. Their rhythm guitarist showed up in a parking lot behind the venue and I smoked a cigarette with him, though. Told him how much I appreciated his band's work, got a picture with him, and an autograph. Really good dude.
Conversely, does it make you like a band more when its members are really nice people? When I saw This Town Needs Guns and Tera Melos I got to talk to all of the members, get pictures, autographs, the works. They gave my friends and myself a lot of attention and appreciated how excited we were about their music. Same goes for HORSE the Band. They were super cool to us and thanked us for buying merch and being at their show.
Anyway, what have been some of your general experiences with musicians being complete assholes or nice people to you?
TTNG are all chill as fuck. Tera Melos I always like talking too, but I always get this really aggressive vibe from Nick.
And I'm willing to doubt that BTBAM are assholes. I know my friend's had pleasant conversation with Dan. Must have been an off night or something.
HOWEVER
My friend saw Antemasque the other night. He met Cedric after the show and that was cool. But, try as he might, he couldn't get close to Omar. Everyone else in the band was hanging out after the show except Omar. My friend hung around for a while and saw Omar exit out the back, so he followed around and found the band's van. He asked the drummer if Omar was in the back and the guy turned around and called into the van, "I dunno, is Omar in there?" Silence. "No, I guess not."
I mean, again, kind of common knowledge, but whatever.
sun kil moon seems like a total chode and i would probably kick his ass irl but also War on Drugs: Suck my cock and Adam Granofsky blues are funny as shit so I kind of forgive him. In fact him being an asshole and writing those funny ass songs lead me to that new album he did this year and turns out it might be my aoty. so him being and asshole turned me into a fan
Back in the day I was a huge fan of Cake. Then I made the mistake of liking their facebook page. I don't know who runs their page, but they are really overbearing in their pushing of political opinions. Frequently insult conservative and religious viewpoints. Not merely disagreeing, straight up attacking those that differ in those views. Was a really ugly side to the band and I haven't bought an album since. I'll still listen to the music but I just no longer feel excited enough about them to try their new material
Quote from: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo on November 15, 2014, 01:28:33 AM
sun kil moon seems like a total chode and i would probably kick his ass irl but also War on Drugs: Suck my cock and Adam Granofsky blues are funny as shit so I kind of forgive him. In fact him being an asshole and writing those funny ass songs lead me to that new album he did this year and turns out it might be my aoty. so him being and asshole turned me into a fan
He's just a whiny bitch and his music blows too, so it all comes together.
i still haven't listened to the sun kil moon album i have
anyway uh the only band i've actually met (twice, at that) is Boris. Wata can be shy and unsociable, partly possibly due to the fact her English is bad, but Takeshi is friendly despite his total lack of English understanding, and Atsuo is really cool and super chill and talks to the fans and stuff. all three of them were willing to sign stuff for me after the second time i saw them. only Takeshi and Atsuo did the first time - Wata went straight for the tour van.
this thread reminds me of how often Burzum comes up in these sorts of discussions, though. i mean, you know, possible murder, arson, general racism. his music has nothing to do with any of that, but still.
Quote from: YPR Classic on November 15, 2014, 09:40:58 AM
Back in the day I was a huge fan of Cake. Then I made the mistake of liking their facebook page. I don't know who runs their page, but they are really overbearing in their pushing of political opinions. Frequently insult conservative and religious viewpoints. Not merely disagreeing, straight up attacking those that differ in those views. Was a really ugly side to the band and I haven't bought an album since. I'll still listen to the music but I just no longer feel excited enough about them to try their new material
Cake is notorious for not giving two shits about their fans. I still love em though.
i'm too shy to actually interact with artists i like lol :(
uh she (https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/she_f2) seems pretty bitter on twitter at times idk
Thankfully I know for a fact that Lena is not a dick giggle;
Anyways, I really don't understand people who like certain music less because the artist who made it is an asshole. What someone does outside of their music has no effect on the music itself.
Kanye West is the best example I can think of. The dude gets a crazy amount of hate because he's an egotistical maniac. He never actually puts anyone else down, he just talks himself up. I guess a lot of people interpret that as "being an asshole". Really though, that's all part of the image that he created for himself. I've talked to people who absolutely hate Kanye but have never actually listened to his records because his public perona discouraged them from ever giving his music a chance. I don't get it man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc2iLAubras
i like geoff barrow of portishead for the sole reason of being a dick
ALSO JOSH WHERE DID YOU SEE TTNG AND WHERE DID YOU SEE TERA MELOS
i recently saw both (at separate shows) at The Space in Connecticut. It's a weird coincidence that you posted about both of them now, and I don't know where you live so ?????
I don't think I like it less, but I will stop listening to their music if they do something I don't like. Music is not so important that I would keep listening to someone I dislike personally. That verges on cuck behavior.
Quote from: klappa on November 16, 2014, 03:07:41 AM
I don't think I like it less, but I will stop listening to their music if they do something I don't like. Music is not so important that I would keep listening to someone I dislike personally. That verges on cuck behavior.
Ol' charlie manson made some cool music.
Quote from: Boogus Epirus Aurelius on November 16, 2014, 08:35:01 AM
Quote from: klappa on November 16, 2014, 03:07:41 AM
I don't think I like it less, but I will stop listening to their music if they do something I don't like. Music is not so important that I would keep listening to someone I dislike personally. That verges on cuck behavior.
Ol' charlie manson made some cool music.
u cuck
you can avoid giving a dollar by torrenting your hated artists
Or you can just listen to them on spotify since they only get $0.00001/play anyway
Quote from: klappa on November 16, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
Quote from: Boogus Epirus Aurelius on November 16, 2014, 08:35:01 AM
Quote from: klappa on November 16, 2014, 03:07:41 AM
I don't think I like it less, but I will stop listening to their music if they do something I don't like. Music is not so important that I would keep listening to someone I dislike personally. That verges on cuck behavior.
Ol' charlie manson made some cool music.
u cuck
The fuck is that supposed to mean?
Quote from: Boogus Epirus Aurelius on November 16, 2014, 05:37:15 PM
Quote from: klappa on November 16, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
Quote from: Boogus Epirus Aurelius on November 16, 2014, 08:35:01 AM
Quote from: klappa on November 16, 2014, 03:07:41 AM
I don't think I like it less, but I will stop listening to their music if they do something I don't like. Music is not so important that I would keep listening to someone I dislike personally. That verges on cuck behavior.
Ol' charlie manson made some cool music.
u cuck
The fuck is that supposed to mean?
i think he's saying that you are a clucky or cuckold? idk either
Either way, he sounds dumb as shit.
Quote from: Boogus Epirus Aurelius on November 16, 2014, 08:59:27 PM
Either way, he sounds dumb as shit.
what in the world why are you so angry
what fuck is cuck
Quote from: klappa on November 16, 2014, 10:55:49 PM
Quote from: Boogus Epirus Aurelius on November 16, 2014, 08:59:27 PM
Either way, he sounds dumb as shit.
what in the world why are you so angry
I'm not angry at all, friendo.
I'm just pondering your cunty word usage.
Pretty much instantly turns me off in most cases (with any kind of artist, or creator, or person) Though I might still listen to some songs.
Quote from: Geno on November 15, 2014, 02:22:51 PM
Anyways, I really don't understand people who like certain music less because the artist who made it is an asshole. What someone does outside of their music has no effect on the music itself.
Because then they get tainted in your mind and you get a soured feeling every time you're reminded of them. Which most of the time they're music will do. And kind of makes you not want to support them either. (Or at least for me.)
Quote from: Josh on November 14, 2014, 09:47:01 PM
Does it change your opinion on a band's music if/when a musician in that band is a dick/complete asshole?
I'm a big fall of the Fall of Troy and it's pretty much common knowledge that their frontman is a complete asshole, but I still really like the band.
Between the Buried and Me is also a favorite of mine but when I saw them last summer, everybody except the rhythm guitarist was walking in a group and I waved at them and said what a good show they put on. My friend and myself were the only ones there that passed them, it was an empty sidewalk. They clearly noticed me but walked on by. Their rhythm guitarist showed up in a parking lot behind the venue and I smoked a cigarette with him, though. Told him how much I appreciated his band's work, got a picture with him, and an autograph. Really good dude.
Conversely, does it make you like a band more when its members are really nice people? When I saw This Town Needs Guns and Tera Melos I got to talk to all of the members, get pictures, autographs, the works. They gave my friends and myself a lot of attention and appreciated how excited we were about their music. Same goes for HORSE the Band. They were super cool to us and thanked us for buying merch and being at their show.
Anyway, what have been some of your general experiences with musicians being complete assholes or nice people to you?
I've never really heard any bad things about Thomas Erak. He seems like a cool guy. Same with BTBAM, they've always seemed cool whenever I've seen them. They signed one of my friend's jackets and it was a generally pleasant experience.
I'm usually pretty good at separating the music from the people behind it. Some artists are just dicks, but I still listen to their music. Usually I have to be turned off before I listen to them to hate them because of the people behind the music, it can't be after I already enjoy songs.
The time I've had music ruined for me really was when peet from Monomate/IAMERROR started getting obnoxious on facebook. It also didn't help that the quality of his music became complete shit and his live shows became a mess. I met Reel Big Fish and Big Chocolate and they both seemed really nice and I had good experiences talking to them for a few minutes.