I need to find new things

[Commander Fuckass]

buy some scale model plane kits
My dad go me into them when I was 18 and I occasionally work on some

[snoorkel]

this is actually a really cool idea

works with old computers too, for significantly less investment

[Samus Aran]

works with old computers too, for significantly less investment

or even just building a new computer would be a good thing to get into because then you can actually you know use it as your new computer

[Boogus Epirus Aurelius]

my life has been revolving around that since I got it. I am excavating it like a sculpture, and there is still infinity to wonder about. by the time I'm through it I'll have an exegesis of my own written on crinkled postits. it's turned into this whole project with a shelf full of accompanying reference, though I'll say it has me digging into all kinds of philosophy I never really had much regard for... his ideas are shocking

Also, would you mind sharing some of the reference texts you're using to accompany reading it?

[Classic]

3D modeling is actually a nice, calming activity. Get into a free program and see what you can do. You only get better from the get-go.

[snoorkel]

Also, would you mind sharing some of the reference texts you're using to accompany reading it?

yeah, mostly I've been trying to penetrate to the roots of his gnostic philosophy and the definition of Logoi that he seems so keen on.

This is literally a reference work, he might have even referenced it directly. Definitely more useful than Wikipedia, and cheap too: http://www.amazon.com/Encyclopedia-Philosophy-Volumes-Books/dp/B000NPT81Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I1EHTNQGC4ZQBW&colid=3JPWTNOZ2TV83

Heavily featured in the Exegesis: http://www.amazon.com/Art-Thought-Heraclitus-Arrangement-Philosophical/dp/052128645X/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I9Q1MS2BP6G12&colid=D386UMQA43DR

Also seems to be a foundation of Dick's philosophy: http://www.amazon.com/Fragments-Parmenides-Introduction-Translation-Testimonia/dp/1930972679/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I31GQZYHVV5AAX&colid=D386UMQA43DR

John Allegro was one of the foremost translators of the Dead Sea Scrolls, and influenced Dick heavily... he has some other books too, look them up: http://www.amazon.com/Dead-Sea-Scrolls-John-Allegro/dp/0879757574/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=IB6REAKYNU96G&colid=D386UMQA43DR

Not directly relevant to Dick, but very relevant to dissecting (neo)platonism, and a great collection: http://www.amazon.com/Pythagorean-Sourcebook-Library-Pythagoras-Philosophy/dp/0933999518/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I27780NWU3YOVZ&colid=D386UMQA43DR

More on Platonism from the time period Dick was most interested in: http://www.amazon.com/Middle-Platonists-B-C-D-220/dp/0801483166/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3JS0B0OGBXDSN&colid=JRDZ71HQ7ML3
http://www.amazon.com/Plotinus-Enneads-LP-Classic-Reprint/dp/0943914558/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_T1?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2SEG0J4187524&colid=JRDZ71HQ7ML3

maybe the MOST interesting thing related to all this, possibly because Mead was secretary to Helena Blavatsky and therefore a bit fucked: http://www.amazon.com/Fragments-Faith-Forgotten-G-Mead/dp/116134991X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1326859248&sr=1-1 (find an old edition of it)

Things I only have in digital format so far, but would also highly recommend:
http://www.amazon.com/Iamblichus-Mysteries-Egyptians-Chaldeans-Collection/dp/1108073042/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=ID6JZQPM3KKMW&colid=D386UMQA43DR
http://www.amazon.com/Orphic-Gold-Tablets-Greek-Religion/dp/0521518318/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I19SRIJ3WFTVX3&colid=JRDZ71HQ7ML3
http://www.amazon.com/Plotinus-Simplicity-Vision-Pierre-Hadot/dp/0226311945/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3MJ6HA7OXDTE0&colid=JRDZ71HQ7ML3
http://www.amazon.com/Neoplatonic-Philosophy-Introductory-John-Dillon/dp/0872207072/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I1TOKACPLSRAAT&colid=JRDZ71HQ7ML3


Sorry for the link spam @____@ Further topics would be plato's cosmology (mostly Timaeus, recommend Kalkavage's study), proclus, tertullian and early church critics, chaldean oracles; dionysian, eleusian mystery cults (Franz Cumont's Mysteries of Mithra is a good place to start) , and some of the extant sources of 'the gnosis' like the Bruce Codex and Books of Jeu (Mead gives a good overview of these, there are also a few good editions of 'The Gnostic Bible' containing the books of thomas, valentinus, and other things Dick mentions frequently).

[Boogus Epirus Aurelius]

yeah, mostly I've been trying to penetrate to the roots of his gnostic philosophy and the definition of Logoi that he seems so keen on.

This is literally a reference work, he might have even referenced it directly. Definitely more useful than Wikipedia, and cheap too: http://www.amazon.com/Encyclopedia-Philosophy-Volumes-Books/dp/B000NPT81Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I1EHTNQGC4ZQBW&colid=3JPWTNOZ2TV83

Heavily featured in the Exegesis: http://www.amazon.com/Art-Thought-Heraclitus-Arrangement-Philosophical/dp/052128645X/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I9Q1MS2BP6G12&colid=D386UMQA43DR

Also seems to be a foundation of Dick's philosophy: http://www.amazon.com/Fragments-Parmenides-Introduction-Translation-Testimonia/dp/1930972679/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I31GQZYHVV5AAX&colid=D386UMQA43DR

John Allegro was one of the foremost translators of the Dead Sea Scrolls, and influenced Dick heavily... he has some other books too, look them up: http://www.amazon.com/Dead-Sea-Scrolls-John-Allegro/dp/0879757574/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=IB6REAKYNU96G&colid=D386UMQA43DR

Not directly relevant to Dick, but very relevant to dissecting (neo)platonism, and a great collection: http://www.amazon.com/Pythagorean-Sourcebook-Library-Pythagoras-Philosophy/dp/0933999518/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I27780NWU3YOVZ&colid=D386UMQA43DR

More on Platonism from the time period Dick was most interested in: http://www.amazon.com/Middle-Platonists-B-C-D-220/dp/0801483166/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3JS0B0OGBXDSN&colid=JRDZ71HQ7ML3
http://www.amazon.com/Plotinus-Enneads-LP-Classic-Reprint/dp/0943914558/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_T1?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2SEG0J4187524&colid=JRDZ71HQ7ML3

maybe the MOST interesting thing related to all this, possibly because Mead was secretary to Helena Blavatsky and therefore a bit fucked: http://www.amazon.com/Fragments-Faith-Forgotten-G-Mead/dp/116134991X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1326859248&sr=1-1 (find an old edition of it)

Things I only have in digital format so far, but would also highly recommend:
http://www.amazon.com/Iamblichus-Mysteries-Egyptians-Chaldeans-Collection/dp/1108073042/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=ID6JZQPM3KKMW&colid=D386UMQA43DR
http://www.amazon.com/Orphic-Gold-Tablets-Greek-Religion/dp/0521518318/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I19SRIJ3WFTVX3&colid=JRDZ71HQ7ML3
http://www.amazon.com/Plotinus-Simplicity-Vision-Pierre-Hadot/dp/0226311945/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3MJ6HA7OXDTE0&colid=JRDZ71HQ7ML3
http://www.amazon.com/Neoplatonic-Philosophy-Introductory-John-Dillon/dp/0872207072/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I1TOKACPLSRAAT&colid=JRDZ71HQ7ML3


Sorry for the link spam @____@ Further topics would be plato's cosmology (mostly Timaeus, recommend Kalkavage's study), proclus, tertullian and early church critics, chaldean oracles; dionysian, eleusian mystery cults (Franz Cumont's Mysteries of Mithra is a good place to start) , and some of the extant sources of 'the gnosis' like the Bruce Codex and Books of Jeu (Mead gives a good overview of these, there are also a few good editions of 'The Gnostic Bible' containing the books of thomas, valentinus, and other things Dick mentions frequently).

Wonderful!!!

I'm familiar with The Art and Thought of Heraclitus and John Allegro's work, but I haven\'t touched the rest.
Thank you so much!

Really, I love your enthusiasm and interest in this!

[snoorkel]

Wonderful!!!

I'm familiar with The Art and Thought of Heraclitus and John Allegro's work, but I haven\'t touched the rest.
Thank you so much!

Really, I love your enthusiasm and interest in this!

haha thanks, PKD is my only hero and I definitely wouldn't hesitate to classify his Exegesis, in its magnitude, alongside some of the most studied and sacred texts of history, it seems very significant to me ... I'm pretty sure a lot of this stuff is going to start taking new forms in coming decades

[Hiro]

make your own candles

[Boogus Epirus Aurelius]

make your own candles

Sand candles

[Socks]

Do any of you go places just to observe people? I frequent plazas, cafes and other such places just to feel and see the humanity around me, like a particle feels the rush of wind carrying it around. But don't do this sober, it will just be morose.

[applesauce]

Map analysis, making your own maps of data. You could start foowing development or a certain pical special interest. Or you could just walk around more and see things.

[snoorkel]

Do any of you go places just to observe people? I frequent plazas, cafes and other such places just to feel and see the humanity around me, like a particle feels the rush of wind carrying it around. But don't do this sober, it will just be morose.

that is the main reason I moved here, you start in any spot and go 3 blocks and there is guaranteed to be at least 1 completely insane thing or person happening

[Socks]

that is the main reason I moved here, you start in any spot and go 3 blocks and there is guaranteed to be at least 1 completely insane thing or person happening

it is the closest to mother earth. imagine a monkey when he sees a zebra, with all the trees and grass, and what in the hell is going on there. it's like the ultimate check, like hey, yeah, oh shit, i need to get back to where i belong.