Clones.

[Kalahari Inkantation]

I recently saw this (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071212/sc_afp/healthscienceskoreacloning), and decided to make a thread about cloning. How do you feel about it? Should cloning humans or any other living things be legal? If it is, would cloning a person/animal just for its organs so that the person it was cloned from could live, would that be okay or not?

[musica.cards]

That would be a waste of time and resources if the only purpose for the clone is for the organs.

[Infel]

Well, in recent news, some Koreans genetically modified cat sperm cells with Bacteria or something, and implanted it into a mother cat. The cat gave birth to kittens, which, when exposed to ultraviolet rays, will GLOW IN THE DARK.

[musica.cards]

And how is that bad? The person who did that got into trouble because of that.

[Daddy]

maybe it will be like star wars where they clone a bunch of jango fetts and make an army and make a single clone normal and that iwll be boba fett


If it improves our lives, cloning a person to create an embryo and obtain stem cells is fine.

[Selkie]

No, that would just have drastically bad results.

You clone someone for a heart. Alright, so what happens to this person? He knows he is alive and is perfectly conscious with what is going on. "Uhh, hey, soo we need your heart for this other guy, k?" Would that go over well?

Also, even if it wasn't a vital organ, What would we do with them when the organ is taken? Throw them into a garbage disposal chute? We can't keep them alive, because then it would cause turmoil having two of someone running around.

[musica.cards]

No, that would just have drastically bad results.

You clone someone for a heart. Alright, so what happens to this person? He knows he is alive and is perfectly conscious with what is going on. "Uhh, hey, soo we need your heart for this other guy, k?" Would that go over well?

Also, even if it wasn't a vital organ, What would we do with them when the organ is taken? Throw them into a garbage disposal chute? We can't keep them alive, because then it would cause turmoil having two of someone running around.

That's exactly what I'm saying! But what about cloning the organs themselves?

[Daddy]

That's exactly what I'm saying! But what about cloning the organs themselves?

It would require creating a cloned embryo to create stem cells.

[Infel]

Stem Cell research just took a different route. They're making those fucked up cells of whatever they need by morphing live people's skin cells and shit.

[musica.cards]

Now why does an embryo need to be created to get stem cells?

[guff]

Now why does an embryo need to be created to get stem cells?

because embryos make stem cells and it's kind of hard to make them out of magic but a lot of people think that one thing that some scientists people did recently what with making other cells like stem cells or something is pretty cool and might hold promise but at this point isn't perfected nor has it been researched all that well

[musica.cards]

because embryos make stem cells and it's kind of hard to make them out of magic but a lot of people think that one thing that some scientists people did recently what with making other cells like stem cells or something is pretty cool and might hold promise but at this point isn't perfected nor has it been researched all that well

What about those adult stem cells I keep hearing about?

[guff]

What about those adult stem cells I keep hearing about?

not as versatile, in that embryonic stem cells am able to become just about anything so that's pretty cool but they're jacks of all trades whereas adult stem cells am be masters of one or maybe two or three but mostly just limited to differentiating into relatively specific types of cells i.e. hi i'm a adult stem cell but that's a silly name because i haven't done anything with my life yet hold on a sec okay back now i'm a smell cell thing but i wanted to be a astronaut cell but i couldn't my parents lied to me but what else is new

but anyways i lost track of where i was going with this but the point is that adult stem cells are limited to becoming specific types of cells and there aren't necessarily adult stem cells for every single type of cell one might need

[musica.cards]

So then couldn't you just take adult stem cells from different organs and just work with that?

[guff]

So then couldn't you just take adult stem cells from different organs and just work with that?

...there aren't necessarily adult stem cells for every single type of cell one might need

even then, going on a scavenger hunt for the right adult stem cell isn't as easy as just making the personalized cell factory that people am hoping stem cells could make