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The Death Penalty

Started by Actingman00, November 22, 2007, 09:03:02 PM

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Selkie


Daddy

Quote from: Selkie on November 28, 2007, 12:20:09 PM
We would go with what would generally be considered right.

Sending a father of 3 kids to jail because he killed a burglar defending his family would not happen.

Oh no, that probably goes against one out of 300 million people's morals, so we should jail him.
Uhm, if some one breaks into your house and is threatening your life you don't go to jail for killing them.  psyduck;



guff

Quote from: Selkie on November 28, 2007, 12:28:11 PM
THE FUCKING POPULATION
So, what, every case would be decided by a show of hands? psyduck;

Daddy

Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 28, 2007, 12:47:15 PM
So, what, every case would be decided by a show of hands? psyduck;
oh boy. 80% of this nation is Christian.

i'd be fucked if the majority got to make their laws.

Selkie

Quote from: JMV290 on November 28, 2007, 12:41:20 PM
Uhm, if some one breaks into your house and is threatening your life you don't go to jail for killing them.  psyduck;





You could.

All the criminal needs is a good lawyer.

Daddy

Quote from: Selkie on November 28, 2007, 01:03:36 PM
You could.

All the criminal needs is a good lawyer.
uhm what. 

QuoteHAMLET
Where wilt thou lead me? speak; I'll go no further.
Ghost
Mark me.
HAMLET
I will.
Ghost
My hour is almost come,
When I to sulphurous and tormenting flames
Must render up myself.
HAMLET
Alas, poor ghost!
Ghost
Pity me not, but lend thy serious hearing
To what I shall unfold.
HAMLET
Speak; I am bound to hear.
Ghost
So art thou to revenge, when thou shalt hear.
HAMLET
What?
Ghost
I am thy father's spirit,
Doom'd for a certain term to walk the night,
And for the day confined to fast in fires,
Till the foul crimes done in my days of nature
Are burnt and purged away. But that I am forbid
To tell the secrets of my prison-house,
I could a tale unfold whose lightest word
Would harrow up thy soul, freeze thy young blood,
Make thy two eyes, like stars, start from their spheres,
Thy knotted and combined locks to part
And each particular hair to stand on end,
Like quills upon the fretful porpentine:
But this eternal blazon must not be
To ears of flesh and blood. List, list, O, list!
If thou didst ever thy dear father love--
HAMLET
O God!
Ghost
Revenge his foul and most unnatural murder.
HAMLET
Murder!
Ghost
Murder most foul, as in the best it is;
But this most foul, strange and unnatural.
HAMLET
Haste me to know't, that I, with wings as swift
As meditation or the thoughts of love,
May sweep to my revenge.
Ghost
I find thee apt;
And duller shouldst thou be than the fat weed
That roots itself in ease on Lethe wharf,
Wouldst thou not stir in this. Now, Hamlet, hear:
'Tis given out that, sleeping in my orchard,
A serpent stung me; so the whole ear of Denmark
Is by a forged process of my death
Rankly abused: but know, thou noble youth,
The serpent that did sting thy father's life
Now wears his crown.
HAMLET
O my prophetic soul! My uncle!
Ghost
Ay, that incestuous, that adulterate beast,
With witchcraft of his wit, with traitorous gifts,--
O wicked wit and gifts, that have the power
So to seduce!--won to his shameful lust
The will of my most seeming-virtuous queen:
O Hamlet, what a falling-off was there!
From me, whose love was of that dignity
That it went hand in hand even with the vow
I made to her in marriage, and to decline
Upon a wretch whose natural gifts were poor
To those of mine!
But virtue, as it never will be moved,
Though lewdness court it in a shape of heaven,
So lust, though to a radiant angel link'd,
Will sate itself in a celestial bed,
And prey on garbage.
But, soft! methinks I scent the morning air;
Brief let me be. Sleeping within my orchard,
My custom always of the afternoon,
Upon my secure hour thy uncle stole,
With juice of cursed hebenon in a vial,
And in the porches of my ears did pour
The leperous distilment; whose effect
Holds such an enmity with blood of man
That swift as quicksilver it courses through
The natural gates and alleys of the body,
And with a sudden vigour doth posset
And curd, like eager droppings into milk,
The thin and wholesome blood: so did it mine;
And a most instant tetter bark'd about,
Most lazar-like, with vile and loathsome crust,
All my smooth body.
Thus was I, sleeping, by a brother's hand
Of life, of crown, of queen, at once dispatch'd:
Cut off even in the blossoms of my sin,
Unhousel'd, disappointed, unanel'd,
No reckoning made, but sent to my account
With all my imperfections on my head:
O, horrible! O, horrible! most horrible!
If thou hast nature in thee, bear it not;
Let not the royal bed of Denmark be
A couch for luxury and damned incest.
But, howsoever thou pursuest this act,
Taint not thy mind, nor let thy soul contrive
Against thy mother aught: leave her to heaven
And to those thorns that in her bosom lodge,
To prick and sting her. Fare thee well at once!
The glow-worm shows the matin to be near,
And 'gins to pale his uneffectual fire:
Adieu, adieu! Hamlet, remember me.
Exit

HAMLET
O all you host of heaven! O earth! what else?
And shall I couple hell? O, fie! Hold, hold, my heart;
And you, my sinews, grow not instant old,
But bear me stiffly up. Remember thee!
Ay, thou poor ghost, while memory holds a seat
In this distracted globe. Remember thee!
Yea, from the table of my memory
I'll wipe away all trivial fond records,
All saws of books, all forms, all pressures past,
That youth and observation copied there;
And thy commandment all alone shall live
Within the book and volume of my brain,
Unmix'd with baser matter: yes, by heaven!
O most pernicious woman!
O villain, villain, smiling, damned villain!
My tables,--meet it is I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain;
At least I'm sure it may be so in Denmark:



will it be like that where the ghost comes back and goes "lol he killed me send him to jail"


No,  if you kill some one for breaking into your house and threatening your life(as in, you can't kill them for stealing your TV and running away when they see you), you are safe from prosecution(Unless you illegally own the gun)

guff

Quote from: Selkie on November 28, 2007, 01:03:36 PM
All the criminal needs is a good lawyer.
to reiterate what jimmy already said because i want to have fun too:  you're fucking retarded

Selkie

Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 28, 2007, 01:35:21 PM
to reiterate what jimmy already said because i want to have fun too:  you're fucking retarded


wait, me?

my name is jimmy too cook

guff

Quote from: Selkie on November 28, 2007, 05:29:07 PM
wait, me?

my name is jimmy too cook
so uh would you mind answering any of the questions or would you rather not attempt to explain your wondrous plans lest we mortals go into cardiac arrest psyduck;

Selkie

Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 28, 2007, 05:38:10 PM
so uh would you mind answering any of the questions or would you rather not attempt to explain your wondrous plans lest we mortals go into cardiac arrest psyduck;


I kinda lost interest in the argument  edumacate;

I simply am saying, innocent people should not be jailed.

guff

Quote from: Selkie on November 28, 2007, 05:41:09 PM
I simply am saying, innocent people should not be jailed.
people who are convicted of crimes are not innocent psyduck;

Selkie

Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 28, 2007, 05:45:45 PM
people who are convicted of crimes are not innocent psyduck;


People who commit crime to protect someone are innocent.

guff

Quote from: Selkie on November 28, 2007, 05:48:33 PM
People who commit crime to protect someone are innocent.
so if a bank robber shoots and kills a security guard that was about to fire at his accomplice, that's just fine and dandy?  psyduck;

Selkie

Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 28, 2007, 05:51:37 PM
so if a bank robber shoots and kills a security guard that was about to fire at his accomplice, that's just fine and dandy?  psyduck;


No, but if a security guard shoots and kills a robber who's about to kill a teller/bank-goer, that is fine and dandy.

Cakes

I don't approve of the Death Penalty. I don't think we should take someones life just because they killed people or a cop.

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