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I find 2GB/s Download speeds somewhat pointless

Started by Blaze-Senpai, October 23, 2007, 02:50:22 PM

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Daddy

Quote from: Kingoftherings on October 27, 2007, 05:22:23 PM
It would be GiB for Gigabit.
PCI is only like 33mb/s.   psyduck;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_Component_Interconnect

33.33 MHz clock with synchronous transfers
peak transfer rate of 133 MB per second for 32-bit bus width (33.33 MHz ? 32 bits ? 8 bits/byte = 133 MB/s)
peak transfer rate of 266 MB/s for 64-bit bus width

Later versions of PCI allow (and in the latest versions require) 3.3V slots (keyed differently) on motherboards and allow for cards that are either double keyed for both voltages or even 3.3V only.
PCI 2.2 allows for 66 MHz signalling (requires 3.3 volt signalling) (peak transfer rate of 533 MB/s)

Kingoftherings

Quote from: JMV290 on October 28, 2007, 11:59:54 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_Component_Interconnect

33.33 MHz clock with synchronous transfers
peak transfer rate of 133 MB per second for 32-bit bus width (33.33 MHz ? 32 bits ? 8 bits/byte = 133 MB/s)
peak transfer rate of 266 MB/s for 64-bit bus width

Later versions of PCI allow (and in the latest versions require) 3.3V slots (keyed differently) on motherboards and allow for cards that are either double keyed for both voltages or even 3.3V only.
PCI 2.2 allows for 66 MHz signalling (requires 3.3 volt signalling) (peak transfer rate of 533 MB/s)
Oh yeah, I was thinking MHz.  :P

pringle positive

Quote from: Kingoftherings on October 27, 2007, 05:22:23 PM
It would be GiB for Gigabit.

GB = GigaByte
GiB = Giga binary byte (pronounced Gibibyte)
Gb = Gigabit

guff

Quote from: JMV290 on October 25, 2007, 06:31:50 PM
2Gb/s is two Gigabits per second...

...which comes out to be 250 Megabytes per second, SATA and PCI harddives can handle that.
but he said 2GB so it's irrelevant

connections am not equal to hard drives  psyduck;
also what the christ is a pci harddrive

Daddy

Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 01, 2007, 12:50:05 PM
but he said 2GB so it's irrelevant

connections am not equal to hard drives  psyduck;
also what the christ is a pci harddrive
Well, a 2GB/s connection is 16Gb/s, which is faster than anything available right now, so I figured he made a typo.  Also, data transfer speed is usually in *bits per second


Also where did I say they were.  I was talking about writing data to harddrives.    He said
QuoteHard Drives can't write that fast anyway, so what would be the purpose?
So i told him the speed that harddrives can use.

also i misworded it i meant harddives connected via pci.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/06/17/a_hard_disk_in_a_pci_slot/

guff

Quote from: JMV290 on November 01, 2007, 03:03:26 PM
Well, a 2GB/s connection is 16Gb/s, which is faster than anything available right now...
yarr
Quote from: JMV290 on November 01, 2007, 03:03:26 PM
Also, data transfer speed is usually in *bits per second
sometimes, but most browsers and other agents of download report speed in KB/s
Quote from: JMV290 on November 01, 2007, 03:03:26 PM
I was talking about writing data to harddrives.    He said  So i told him the speed that harddrives can use.
Data transfer rates are not related to write speeds. psyduck;

Daddy

Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 01, 2007, 03:41:28 PM
yarr

cool but can you find an ISP that currently uses those speeds?

Quotesometimes, but most browsers and other agents of download report speed in KB/s
But ISPs don't.  When you order a high speed internet package you're going to see 15Mb/s not 1.86MB/s
Data transfer rates are not related to write speeds. psyduck;
[/quote]cool i didnt say they were. Read his fucking post.  He just said that Hard Drives can't write that fast.  I said they can. Stop being an idiot.

guff

Quote from: JMV290 on November 01, 2007, 04:03:58 PM
cool but can you find an ISP that currently uses those speeds?

But ISPs don't.  When you order a high speed internet package you're going to see 15Mb/s not 1.86MB/s

cool i didnt say they were. Read his fucking post.  He just said that Hard Drives can't write that fast.  I said they can. Stop being an idiot.
who said anything about an isp

see above; isps are not the only people who transfer data

And he's right; hard drives can't write that fast.  The connection to the hard drive can transmit data at that rate.  These are very different things.  You could have a gigabit ethernet connection to your DSL modem, but that's not going to make the 768 or 512 etc. connection perform at that speed.
oh and even a fucking raptor's max speed is below 120MB/s

Daddy

Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 01, 2007, 04:18:12 PM
who said anything about an isp

see above; isps are not the only people who transfer data

And he's right; hard drives can't write that fast.  The connection to the hard drive can transmit data at that rate.  These are very different things.  You could have a gigabit ethernet connection to your DSL modem, but that's not going to make the 768 or 512 etc. connection perform at that speed.
oh and even a fucking raptor's max speed is below 120MB/s


You're not thinking in the same manner Blaziken was thinking in.


Unless he was talking about a LAN, which I doubt--He would be talking about an ISP if he's downloading movies.


Blaze-Senpai

Quote from: JMV290 on November 01, 2007, 04:54:22 PM
You're not thinking in the same manner Blaziken was thinking in.


Unless he was talking about a LAN, which I doubt--He would be talking about an ISP if he's downloading movies.


Yes I was, and main point still stands.

guff

Quote from: JMV290 on November 01, 2007, 04:54:22 PM
You're not thinking in the same manner Blaziken was thinking in.

Unless he was talking about a LAN, which I doubt--He would be talking about an ISP if he's downloading movies.
Good.

You weren't talking about an ISP.  You said:
Quote from: JMV290 on November 01, 2007, 03:03:26 PM
...16Gb/s...is faster than anything available right now...
italics added for emphasis

ps what happened to the talk about the hard drive write speeds and the me being stupid

Daddy

Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 01, 2007, 05:45:13 PM
Good.

You weren't talking about an ISP.  You said:italics added for emphasis
uhm I mean available for an ISP.    of course there are much faster methods available elsewhere.

Quote
ps what happened to the talk about the hard drive write speeds
im still downloading it/ i guess u wuz right


Quotethe me being stupid

still here

The artist formally known

No one uses gigabits JMV... never ever really heard someone say that.

2GB/s is used in businesses and places that have more than one computer because all those computers share the same internet connection so they take only a fraction of the 2GBs a second.

Daddy

Quote from: reefer on November 02, 2007, 03:09:48 PM
No one uses gigabits JMV... never ever really heard someone say that.

2GB/s is used in businesses and places that have more than one computer because all those computers share the same internet connection so they take only a fraction of the 2GBs a second.
http://www22.verizon.com/content/consumerfios/packages+and+prices/packages+and+prices.htm

http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=Connection118073


56k is 56 kilobits per second


I don't think I've seen any ISP advertise their speeds in bytes per second, only bits.   


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