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Quote from: YPR on March 04, 2009, 05:05:32 PM
Though under one percent of all abortions are performed because the woman was raped.
yeah those statistics definitely aren't skewed at all

"hi i'd like a #1, hold the sonogram yeah my father raped me and i don't want to bear his child"  n_u

Quote from: :atomsk: on March 04, 2009, 03:33:52 PM
Also fucking Obama want to make partial birth abortion legal after Bush outlawed it with good reason and he also wants to make it legal to murder babies that survived and abortion attempt. That bastard socialist's a pig.
lol stop reading your email and what does that have to do with his economic agenda n_u

Daddy

Quote from: guff on March 05, 2009, 01:09:21 PMlol stop reading your email and what does that have to do with his economic agenda n_u
actually he's right.
us socialists are pushing for an economic plan which provides 10 aborted fetuses middle class household.

YPrrrr

Quote from: guff on March 05, 2009, 01:09:21 PM
yeah those statistics definitely aren't skewed at all

Even if they are skewed, it will still be an overwhelming minority in terms of reasons why women get abortions.

guff

Quote from: YPR on March 05, 2009, 01:58:32 PM
Even if they are skewed, it will still be an overwhelming minority in terms of reasons why women get abortions.
okay so how about we look at the other reasons  baddood;

i don't know about you but even if i was impoverished and made a stupid decision it's highly unlikely that a baby will form in my womb  akudood;

Daddy

QuoteIn 2000, cases of rape or incest accounted for 1% of abortions.[13] Another study, in 1998, revealed that in 1987-1988 women reported the following reasons for choosing an abortion:[14]
25.5% Want to postpone childbearing
21.3% Cannot afford a baby
14.1% Has relationship problem or partner does not want pregnancy If the relationship problems are abandonment sure.
12.2% Too young; parent(s) or other(s) object to pregnancy
10.8% Having a child will disrupt education or job

7.9% Want no (more) children Only if you tried to prevent it. Otherwise you're a damn idiot
3.3% Risk to fetal health
2.8% Risk to maternal health

2.1% OtherDepends on the other


Bolded are what I find to be legitimate reasons considering the woman takes precautions to avoid it (condom and/or other form of contraception)
Italics can be, under certain circumstances. With my reason next to it underlined.

Some are both.

hay waitthat's everything assuming they took steps to prevent it.

YPrrrr

Quote from: Raekewn on March 05, 2009, 02:50:48 PM
Bolded are what I find to be legitimate reasons considering the woman takes precautions to avoid it (condom and/or other form of contraception)
Italics can be, under certain circumstances. With my reason next to it underlined.

Some are both.

hay waitthat's everything assuming they took steps to prevent it.
Risk to fetal health? So killing it is an improvement?
Want to postpone childbearing? Well having sex suggests otherwise
Cannot afford a baby? Adoption
Having a child will disrupt education or job? Adoption

Phone Bill

Types of Abortion:

Suction-Aspiration

In this method, the cervical muscle ring must be paralyzed and stretched open. The abortionist then inserts a hollow plastic tube with a knife-like edge into the uterus. The suction tears the babyââ,¬â,,¢s body into pieces. The placenta is cut from the uterine wall and everything is sucked into a bottle.


Dilation and Curettage

This is similar to a suction procedure except a curette, a loop-shaped steel knife is inserted into the uterus. The baby and placenta are cut into pieces and scraped out into a basin. Bleeding is usually very heavy with this method.


Dilation and Evacuation

This type of abortion is done after the third month of pregnancy. The cervix must be dilated before the abortion. Usually Laminaria sticks are inserted into the cervix. These are made of sterilized seaweed that is compressed into thin sticks. When inserted, they absorb moisture and expand, thus enlarging the cervix. A pliers-like instrument is inserted through the cervix into the uterus. The abortionist then seizes a leg, arm or other part of the baby and, with a twisting motion, tears it from the body. This continues until only the head remains. Finally the skull is crushed and pulled out. The nurse must then reassemble the body parts to be sure that all of them were removed.


It's important to note that the fetus, while still relatively undeveloped, has enough brain function to STILL REACT TO PAIN/ATTACK LIKE ANY OTHER LIVING THING.

Daddy

Quote from: YPR on March 05, 2009, 02:57:01 PM
Risk to fetal health? So killing it is an improvement?

Yes, in some cases.

QuoteWant to postpone childbearing? Well having sex suggests otherwise

What if the condom breaks?

QuoteCannot afford a baby? Adoption

Because there are no costs prior to having a baby. Checkups with the doctor add up.
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Having a child will disrupt education or job? Adoption
And during the 9 months you're pregnant?

Phone Bill

Quote from: Raekewn on March 05, 2009, 03:00:00 PM
Because there are no costs prior to having a baby. Checkups with the doctor add up.


Moral of the story? If you are pregnant, live in Canada.

Daddy

Quote from: Phone Bill on March 05, 2009, 02:57:57 PM
*shit that goes into the gruesome details of a medical procedure as if that makes it wrong*
What is the point?


QuoteIt's important to note that the fetus, while still relatively undeveloped, has enough brain function to STILL REACT TO PAIN/ATTACK LIKE ANY OTHER LIVING THING.
Amoeba rights!

Daddy

Quote from: Phone Bill on March 05, 2009, 03:01:50 PM
Moral of the story? If you are pregnant, live in Canada.
And instead of just one medical procedure and a check up or 2, have multiple check ups, go through labor, and another check up?

awesome way to inefficiently use a good healthcare sytem.

Phone Bill

Quote from: Raekewn on March 05, 2009, 03:02:05 PM
What is the point?


How would you like it if I deemed you a hindrance to my life and I decided to rip off your limbs one by one, and then finally squish your head?

YPrrrr

Quote from: Raekewn on March 05, 2009, 03:00:00 PM
What if the condom breaks?
Well if you're not having sex, that's probably a minor issue. If the condom breaks, too bad.
Quote from: Raekewn on March 05, 2009, 03:00:00 PM

Because there are no costs prior to having a baby. Checkups with the doctor add up.And during the 9 months you're pregnant?
Yet they can afford an abortion?

Daddy

Quote from: Phone Bill on March 05, 2009, 03:03:45 PM
How would you like it if I deemed you a hindrance to my life and I decided to rip off your limbs one by one, and then finally squish your head?
I'd thank you.

Also, I wouldn't care since I WOULDN'T BE ALIVE.

Quote from: YPR on March 05, 2009, 03:04:47 PM
Well if you're not having sex, that's probably a minor issue. If the condom breaks, too bad.

Why shouldn't they have sex?
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Yet they can afford an abortion?
Significantly cheaper than repeated visits to the doctor and staying in the hospital while giving birth.

Phone Bill

Ok, you've convinced me Raekewn.

It's okay to kill people because they won't be alive so they won't be able to care.  happydood;

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