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Title: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on July 17, 2018, 11:26:38 PM
https://www.google.com/search?biw=1920&bih=1007&tbm=nws&ei=Q91OW4ToJ82c_QbN4quwBw&q=%22and+that%27s+a+good+thing%22

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22and+here%27s+why%22&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjKq63SgajcAhWNl-AKHQF4DRsQ_AUICygC&biw=1920&bih=1007
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: YPrrrr on July 18, 2018, 03:26:27 AM
This is why I dropped my journalism major
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: C.Mongler on July 18, 2018, 05:31:59 AM
dae hate words we should use clicks and hisses
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: silvertone on July 18, 2018, 06:31:04 AM
Quote from: SVT on July 17, 2018, 09:07:50 PM
https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/videos/news/local/michigan/2018/07/12/rare-corpse-flower-blooms-frederik-meijer-gardens-grand-rapids/778816002/ cool (from ur google link)
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: silvertone on July 18, 2018, 06:31:36 AM
Quote from: YPargh on July 18, 2018, 03:26:27 AM
This is why I dropped my journalism major
u dropped ur major over buzzwords? lol
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: YPrrrr on July 18, 2018, 06:53:38 AM
Quote from: SVT on July 18, 2018, 06:31:36 AM
Quote from: YPargh on July 18, 2018, 03:26:27 AM
This is why I dropped my journalism major
u dropped ur major over buzzwords? lol
Yeah I didnt want to work all hours to get paid peanuts to write dishonest and misleading titles to articles with no substance or that rely more on getting factually dubious information out quickly than properly verifying it.

I know I'm so dramatic :D
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: Thyme on July 18, 2018, 07:03:40 AM
10 ways millennials killed journalism (and that's a good thing)
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: strongbad on July 18, 2018, 08:21:51 AM
the left and the right seem to hate mainstream media equally lol
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: C.Mongler on July 18, 2018, 08:31:16 AM
its kinda funny cuz the media employ these goofball buzz tactics to remain profitable/just continue to exist at all, but everyone largely hates the way we present 'the news' these days to some degree, yet these tactics keep being used because they are what actually get people to engage with the medium & their ads so despite being hated they in essence do actually work.

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Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on July 18, 2018, 09:38:39 AM
Quote from: C.Mongler on July 18, 2018, 05:31:59 AM
dae hate words we should use clicks and hisses


Here's why that's a good thing.

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22here%27s+why+that%27s+a+good+thing%22&source=lnms&tbm=nws
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: silvertone on July 18, 2018, 03:05:10 PM
Quote from: YPargh on July 18, 2018, 06:53:38 AM
Quote from: SVT on July 18, 2018, 06:31:36 AM
Quote from: YPargh on July 18, 2018, 03:26:27 AM
This is why I dropped my journalism major
u dropped ur major over buzzwords? lol
Yeah I didnt want to work all hours to get paid peanuts to write dishonest and misleading titles to articles with no substance or that rely more on getting factually dubious information out quickly than properly verifying it.

I know I'm so dramatic :D
............. the edittor comes up with the titles most of the time lol

but the rest u could just have had some balls and not do and write honest stuff
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: YPrrrr on July 18, 2018, 03:33:44 PM
Quote from: SVT on July 18, 2018, 03:05:10 PM
Quote from: YPargh on July 18, 2018, 06:53:38 AM
Quote from: SVT on July 18, 2018, 06:31:36 AM
Quote from: YPargh on July 18, 2018, 03:26:27 AM
This is why I dropped my journalism major
u dropped ur major over buzzwords? lol
Yeah I didnt want to work all hours to get paid peanuts to write dishonest and misleading titles to articles with no substance or that rely more on getting factually dubious information out quickly than properly verifying it.

I know I'm so dramatic :D
............. the edittor comes up with the titles most of the time lol

but the rest u could just have had some balls and not do and write honest stuff
I guess it depends on the paper. I made my own headlines. But I suppose I also put the paper together.

Yeah because when you're starting out that works. Or I could change my major and do something that made me happier. Idk why you're the one doling out life advice Im doing pretty okay n_u
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: ME## on July 19, 2018, 06:51:14 AM
Quote from: antmaster5000 on July 18, 2018, 08:21:51 AM
the left and the right seem to hate mainstream media equally lol
pretty much lol if they’re saying something they don’t like/want to hear it has to be wrong
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on July 19, 2018, 07:37:18 AM
Quote from: SVT on July 18, 2018, 06:31:36 AM
Quote from: YPargh on July 18, 2018, 03:26:27 AM
This is why I dropped my journalism major
u dropped ur major over buzzwords? lol


unfortunately it's just not enough to have one or a few good journalists in a sea of trashy idiots

responsible journalism has to be a collective effort with high standards that everyone abides by, because

Quote from: C.Mongler on July 18, 2018, 08:31:16 AMthese tactics keep being used because they are what actually get people to engage with the medium & their ads so despite being hated they in essence do actually work.


ya

we know for a fact that humans are highly susceptible to propaganda and yellow journalism, and it has gotten many a nation in trouble before (most famously germany lol)

so it is at least in part mostly everyone's fault, but the onus of responsibility is largely on the person presenting the information, especially if they're doing it professionally

america has resolved or at least greatly mitigated issues with yellow journalism in the past, but what's particularly problematic today is it's yellow partisan journalism (or at least perceived that way, and really there is some truth to that), and that might be a tougher issue to reign in lol smithicide;
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: YPrrrr on July 19, 2018, 07:54:38 AM
Plus anyone can put together a website and distribute information whereas in the past making information or disinformation widely available was much more difficult
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on July 19, 2018, 08:33:22 AM
Quote from: YPargh on July 19, 2018, 07:54:38 AM
Plus anyone can put together a website and distribute information whereas in the past making information or disinformation widely available was much more difficult


r*ssia especially takes great advantage of this awdood;

which is particularly sad because it's such a wonderful privilege that gives everyone the ability to speak freely, but it's also extremely easy to abuse lol

yellow journalism is basically deliberately exploiting a known weakness of human cognition, and i think that's deplorable
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: silvertone on July 19, 2018, 10:15:39 PM
wtf yellow journalism was easier in the past. now you can just google to fact check, back then u didnt have those sources in ur home.

Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: YPrrrr on July 20, 2018, 03:41:51 AM
Quote from: SVT on July 19, 2018, 10:15:39 PM
wtf yellow journalism was easier in the past. now you can just google to fact check, back then u didnt have those sources in ur home.


You had to wait for new issues though.

Now news is constantly updated through your computer and phone, free of charge. Real people don't fact check they choose what they want to believe n_u

Plus with so much more competition than in the past it creates more of a necessity to be the first out with a story or to use some sensationalist headline to grab attention in the sea of "news"
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: silvertone on July 20, 2018, 07:03:41 AM
google is on every phone for free too. it's much easier to combat y-journalism than yesteryears + alot of places have comment sections or posted on Twitter where u can redpill ppl outta Yella jarnalism.
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 26, 2018, 04:53:07 AM
Quote from: sc2020 on July 20, 2018, 07:03:41 AMgoogle is on every phone for free too. it's much easier to combat y-journalism than yesteryears + alot of places have comment sections or posted on Twitter where u can redpill ppl outta Yella jarnalism.

for better or worse, it's now also extremely easy to use your free google access on your phone to search for 'proof gluten autism', 'study shows global warming hoax', 'reasons illegal immigration good thing', 'gmos bad', 'proof birth certificate fake', 'why ukraine deserved it' etc., pick the first result that agrees with you, and convince yourself you've outsmarted all the experts lol

google may be free and easily accessible, but knowing how to separate real valid evidence from the uneducated mommy fear blog of the minute, alex jones, or brainless editorials on cuckington post is an extremely rare skill

that's why we rely on intelligent, well-educated, unbiased, ethical journalists to do it for us, but the journalism industry is increasingly abusing that authority to peddle complete shite for a quick buck

as a consequence, the news media has utterly destroyed its own credibility, and now anyone can get away with dismissing any story irrespective of its authenticity as "fake news" if it happens to be inconvenient to them, and the whole population is massively less informed despite being quite convinced it knows everything

And that's a bad thing.
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: don't let's on August 26, 2018, 05:38:37 AM
Ads truly ruin everything 
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 04, 2022, 12:53:34 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/p1aZFKi.jpg)

Boyah on the left (naturally). xiapproves;
Title: Re: """Journalism""" is dead in America, and that's a good thing. Here's why.
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on December 27, 2022, 08:00:06 AM
>tfw i ended up becoming a journal*st anyway

smithicide;