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Poll
Question: abolish federalism
Option 1: y votes: 3
Option 2: n votes: 2
Title: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 16, 2018, 01:25:13 PM
  • driver's licensure

  • the damn tax code

  • public education standards

  • presidential election standards goonish


i mean i feel like federal elections in general should be handled by the feds (particularly senatorial), but especially the presidential election which is the one and only nationwide federal election, and the single most important in the country lol awdood;
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states
Post by: Mando Pandango on June 16, 2018, 05:38:18 PM
ranked choice elections while we're at it please thanks

Maine's doing it
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: ME## on June 16, 2018, 09:43:07 PM
Fuck national driver licenses.  Next you’ll want EU-style plastic number plates with the NAFTA logo and EE.UU on them
Sounds like a good way to get a wildly changing tax structure every 4-8 years
Honestly I don’t know how the Feds could fuck education any more than the states so why not



If anything Senatorial elections so go back to being the pervue of state legislature, the house should be expanded so states are more accurately represented and gerrymandering is quelled at least for a little while :|
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: Daddy on June 17, 2018, 06:42:58 AM
everything because there shouldn't be any government  baddood;
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: silvertone on June 17, 2018, 05:18:43 PM
here is some thing . : stoned ape theory. i believe not 50 governments shouldnt handle that just one of them but not fed
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: wawi on June 17, 2018, 05:41:13 PM
space exploration should be left to the states
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 17, 2018, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: David on June 16, 2018, 09:43:07 PM
Fuck national driver licenses.


i don't see the harm

the states could still keep their unique plate designs, it would just mean that a license granted in new york would be permanently valid in montana would be permanently valid in tennessee would be permanently valid in oregon would be permanently valid in texas (and so on)

Quote from: David on June 16, 2018, 09:43:07 PM
number plates with the NAFTA logo


stop, i can only get so erect :'(

Quote from: David on June 16, 2018, 09:43:07 PM
Sounds like a good way to get a wildly changing tax structure every 4-8 years


couldn't be any worse than the current system myface;

Do we really need FIFTY TWO (states +DC +feds) separate taxation agencies? smithicide;

Quote from: David on June 16, 2018, 09:43:07 PM
If anything Senatorial elections so go back to being the pervue of state legislature, the house should be expanded so states are more accurately represented and gerrymandering is quelled at least for a little while :|


i agree with this in general, but so long as senators remain directly elected, the very LEAST we could do is have the feds standardize federal elections lol
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 17, 2018, 06:10:04 PM
Quote from: interpolhezbollahyakuza on June 16, 2018, 05:38:18 PM
ranked choice elections while we're at it please thanks

Maine's doing it


srsly

Quote from: wawi on June 17, 2018, 05:41:13 PM
space exploration should be left to the states


lol jesus christ, could you imagine goowan
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: C.Mongler on June 18, 2018, 06:14:20 AM
assigning names to your children



a computer should select them at birth
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 20, 2018, 06:28:25 AM
Quote from: SVT on June 17, 2018, 05:18:43 PM
here is some thing . : stoned ape theory. i believe not 50 governments shouldnt handle that just one of them but not fed


So which of the states should take over the governmental services of all the others? y/n
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: bluaki on June 26, 2018, 12:19:25 AM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on June 16, 2018, 01:25:13 PM
public education standards
Have you heard of Common Core? That's not working out too well. America has really low standards.
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: silvertone on June 26, 2018, 07:44:35 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on June 20, 2018, 06:28:25 AM
Quote from: SVT on June 17, 2018, 05:18:43 PM
here is some thing . : stoned ape theory. i believe not 50 governments shouldnt handle that just one of them but not fed


So which of the states should take over the governmental services of all the others? y/n
state??? individual..... that individual is Me
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 30, 2018, 08:56:24 PM
  • matters of civil rights/liberties

  • healthcare standards


Fun fact: The very Bill of Rights itself used to not apply to the individual states. akudood;

not until 1925 lol, and even then only partially
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 28, 2018, 12:54:07 AM
Quote from: C.Mongler on June 18, 2018, 06:14:20 AMassigning names to your children

a computer should select them at birth

or have an official national naming committee iceland does y/n

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_Naming_Committee
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 28, 2018, 01:04:24 AM
also,

  • policing

really out to be a federal power

police agencies in america aren't divided just by state, but often by county and even town

that means there are well over 3,000 distinct police agencies in the us

california alone has over 500 police departments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_law_enforcement_agencies_in_California

goonish

not only is this a complete, astronomical waste of money, but it also means that actual policy and training can vary widely and enforcement of law can be unpredictably inconsistent from one police department/jurisdiction to another, and it also means that 'the police' as a whole are extremely difficult to regulate and manage because 'the police' don't exist as a whole to begin with

how could we ever possibly hope to establish a single regulatory authority over the collective us police force when it's made up of over 3,000 disparate departments that are only very loosely tied to one another and practically answer to themselves alone

a modest proposal: NATIONALIZE THE POLICE
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on August 28, 2018, 01:19:05 AM
flags
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 28, 2018, 01:28:52 AM
Quote from: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo on August 28, 2018, 01:19:05 AMflags

hmmm befuddlement

for the most part i actually like that each state can have its own individual flag and state symbols lol

however, many of the state flags are absolutely disgusting and don't adhere to the general principles of vexillology at all

(https://i.imgur.com/8QSZU0S.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/fmx8dJt.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/vW1BjBl.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/3dAuzNd.png)

(https://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/ugly.gif)

state flags are fine but hideous state flags are a national embarrassment and should be illegal
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 28, 2018, 01:31:16 AM
there are some truly abominable city flags too
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: don't let's on August 28, 2018, 03:20:46 AM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 28, 2018, 01:04:24 AMalso,

  • policing

really out to be a federal power

police agencies in america aren't divided just by state, but often by county and even town

that means there are well over 3,000 distinct police agencies in the us

california alone has over 500 police departments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_law_enforcement_agencies_in_California

goonish

not only is this a complete, astronomical waste of money, but it also means that actual policy can vary widely and enforcement of law can be unpredictably inconsistent from one police department to another, and it also means that 'the police' as a whole are extremely difficult to regulate and manage because 'the police' don't exist as a whole to begin with

how could we ever possibly hope to establish a single regulatory authority over the collective us police force when it's made up of over 3,000 disparate departments that are only very loosely tied to one another and practically answer to themselves alone

a modest proposal: NATIONALIZE THE POLICE
wow tec is now a nationalist
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: Daddy on August 28, 2018, 08:42:15 AM
wait until tec sees how many federal law enforcement agencies there are

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_law_enforcement_in_the_United_States

surely taking local police department control out of local governments and handing it to bureaucrats in a federal building in a small area near DC will solve the problems
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: Daddy on August 28, 2018, 08:48:04 AM
also how should the tax code be federalized?

we already have federal taxes.  are you suggesting that states shouldn't have the discretion to levy income, property, or sales taxes, and provide deductions, where applicable, when filing taxes?

Iowa and New York City surely have the same tax needs mirite

even from a wacky neolib econ standpoint, you probably recognize the need for local governments to incentive certain behavior with deductions and credits.

Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: C.Mongler on August 28, 2018, 12:35:41 PM
boyah should be nationalized
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: The artist formally known on August 31, 2018, 08:31:40 PM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on June 16, 2018, 05:38:18 PMranked choice elections while we're at it please thanks

Maine's doing it
FUCK FIRST PAST THE POST, STUPID BULLSHIT
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: bluaki on September 01, 2018, 12:45:43 PM
Net neutrality

Good on California for picking up the feds' slack, but this still should be a national thing
Title: Re: things that really shouldn't be left up to the 50 individual states/provinces
Post by: don't let's on September 01, 2018, 01:17:43 PM
The internet should not be a thing at all