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Title: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 15, 2018, 05:54:17 PM
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: don't let's on June 15, 2018, 06:49:20 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on June 15, 2018, 05:54:17 PM
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Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: wawi on June 15, 2018, 07:23:45 PM
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Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: Mando Pandango on June 15, 2018, 10:51:55 PM
at this point, honestly, 4chan. moot jumped ship at the right time.

I just now realized something about 4chan and tumblr, too. They're kind of the same website. They're both totally anonymous message boards with the ability to attach content to your posts. The difference is that 4chan brings you to forums where as tumblr is focused around individual blogs. Both are huge breeding grounds for echo chambers just because of the way they work, but tumblr is way more potentially dangerous. You can totally filter out anyone or any community you don't want to see or hear from. The other side of that is that you're sharing a website with your opposite ideology pretty much guaranteed, so it's easier to interject into each other's spaces and create these big fights, then retreat to your echo chamber and talk about how dumb your opponents are.

Just the way tumblr enables Bad Thought is honestly kind of infuriating. At least 4chan idiots go looking for it. On tumblr it just kind of happens.
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 16, 2018, 06:23:53 AM
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 16, 2018, 02:23:35 PM
Quote from: interpolhezbollahyakuza on June 15, 2018, 10:51:55 PM
at this point, honestly, 4chan. moot jumped ship at the right time.

I just now realized something about 4chan and tumblr, too. They're kind of the same website. They're both totally anonymous message boards with the ability to attach content to your posts. The difference is that 4chan brings you to forums where as tumblr is focused around individual blogs. Both are huge breeding grounds for echo chambers just because of the way they work, but tumblr is way more potentially dangerous. You can totally filter out anyone or any community you don't want to see or hear from. The other side of that is that you're sharing a website with your opposite ideology pretty much guaranteed, so it's easier to interject into each other's spaces and create these big fights, then retreat to your echo chamber and talk about how dumb your opponents are.

Just the way tumblr enables Bad Thought is honestly kind of infuriating. At least 4chan idiots go looking for it. On tumblr it just kind of happens.


4chan and scumblr really are two sides of the same counterfeit coin, and society at large seriously does need to learn how to better identify and discard counterfeits

they both have turned into echo chambers for loud, catastrophically dumb extremists, and i genuinely believe that the bickering between 4chan and its associates and tumblr and its associates was at least in part what created the fervor that led to the 2016 election lol

i would say that dumblr is perhaps worse, though; 4chan is at least self-aware that its extremist right-wing views are fringe and destructive

tumblrites - even the belligerent ones, even the blatantly racist and neo-segregationist ones - are brainwashed enough that they legitimately believe they are forces of good in the world

and tumblr's normalization and even outright romanticization of legitimate mental illness is also p. tarded and p. terrifying
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: don't let's on June 16, 2018, 05:24:00 PM
Google
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: Nyerp on June 16, 2018, 06:14:16 PM
tumblr is not worse than 4chan what the fuck??? on tumblr you can easily avoid extremist blogs you don't like but 4chan (especially in recent years) has alt-right and nazis infesting every single board, turning it into a hive of racism, sexism, etc.

4chan regularly says shit like "gas the kikes" and "day of the rope soon". please find me the evil tumblr version of this please because i don't think it exists, and if it does then it hasn't overtaken the whole site culture. inb4 "lol why are you taking those anonymous posts so seriously they're just trolls??" nah, they're real people who go on image boards to vent their true feelings without taking responsibility for the shit they say, while also radicalizing other people like them. at least on tumblr there's some form of accountability for saying ridiculous shit.

besides, twitter has the nuttier leftists due to the awful format and people obsessed with getting retweets for their hot takes. i'd still take it over 4chan though.
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: don't let's on June 16, 2018, 08:09:27 PM
Tumblr preys on the minds of mentally ill or emotionally damaged children and it's going to do lasting damage to their minds and how they think and live.
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: don't let's on June 16, 2018, 08:12:04 PM
Also, look up pretty much any of the fandom blogs.
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: Nyerp on June 16, 2018, 08:13:45 PM
4chan preys on the minds of mentally ill or emotionally damaged white men and it's going to do lasting damage to their minds and how they think and live and also they will run people over at protests.
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: don't let's on June 16, 2018, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on June 16, 2018, 08:13:45 PM
4chan preys on the minds of mentally ill or emotionally damaged white men and it's going to do lasting damage to their minds and how they think and live and also they will run people over at protests.
4chan is trash. And?
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: Mando Pandango on June 16, 2018, 10:52:08 PM
And I need a drink doodthing;
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: ME## on June 16, 2018, 10:55:48 PM
Honestly the internet and its users are what is to blame. 




Oh and I think we can all blame those apps backed by venture capitalists that will lead to a new Middle Ages when they go bust lol
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 16, 2018, 11:59:45 PM
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: silvertone on June 17, 2018, 12:24:00 AM
discord is the secret demon
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 17, 2018, 01:05:52 AM
Quote from: Nyerp on June 16, 2018, 06:14:16 PM
tumblr is not worse than 4chan what the fuck??? on tumblr you can easily avoid extremist blogs you don't like but 4chan (especially in recent years) has alt-right and nazis infesting every single board, turning it into a hive of racism, sexism, etc.

4chan regularly says shit like "gas the kikes" and "day of the rope soon". please find me the evil tumblr version of this please because i don't think it exists, and if it does then it hasn't overtaken the whole site culture. inb4 "lol why are you taking those anonymous posts so seriously they're just trolls??" nah, they're real people who go on image boards to vent their true feelings without taking responsibility for the shit they say, while also radicalizing other people like them. at least on tumblr there's some form of accountability for saying ridiculous shit.

besides, twitter has the nuttier leftists due to the awful format and people obsessed with getting retweets for their hot takes. i'd still take it over 4chan though.


the difference between 4chan and tumblr is that stereotypically 4chan opinions like 'genocide minority x' are so fringe and so reprehensible that nobody outside of larpers on 4chan/stormfront/reddit actually give them any serious thought

opinions of this nature have virtually no political power anywhere in the world, and the average sane person who sees them effortlessly dismisses them as nonsense, rolls their eyes and moves on about their day

furthermore, right-wing politicians do explicitly denounce these fringe groups, and at the very least, certainly aren't publicly endorsing them

meanwhile:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe-space

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_appropriation

http://ottawasun.com/2017/06/22/university-of-toronto-holding-black-only-graduation-ceremony-today-with-pomp-and-lots-of-circumstance/wcm/984e44f2-11bd-4067-a704-8c9fa3622c01

and yes, obviously policies and opinions of this nature are not nearly as dangerous in the short term as literal genocide, but they are still extremely pernicious and frightfully sectarian, and yet they are given credence by actual people in actual power for reasons that are simply beyond me

these lines of dialogue were opened up among the tumblrsphere, and as this nonsense is normalized by actual people in actual power, we get idiots saying and doing things like:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/09/boston-university-prof-flunks-white-masculinity-in-controversial-tweets.html

https://jezebel.com/musician-lido-pimienta-responds-to-criticism-after-aski-1820039186

and feeling fully justified in doing so, which has no positive effect for anyone, but certainly does an extremely efficient job at antagonizing innocent neutral-at-worst people who aren't actually your opponents and clearly have no desire to be unless and until provoked

i mean, this is quite literally blatant segregation being supported by lefties psyduck;

oh, and how could i forget: https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-antifa-nazi-punching-is-just-a-gift-to-the-right

i mean, just how unbelievably dumb does one have to be to think that this behavior is helping them in the long run

a savvy nazi could EASILY infiltrate and co-opt a far leftist movement, using the extreme left's very own platform and ridiculous rhetoric to achieve alt-right goals, and in fact i would be quite surprised if something to that effect hasn't happened or isn't underway already
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 17, 2018, 01:45:46 AM
oh yeah, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_appropriation 5thgrade;

(https://i.imgur.com/pH7mKuG.gif)

i can hardly imagine a more self-defeating movement
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 17, 2018, 01:59:37 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-3Y3NDCT-Y[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLGxi3MF9Wo[/youtube]

that lefties haven't expressed collective embarrassment over people like this genuinely hurts me SocksDood;

i mean, in a literal sense

because all they accomplish is to deligitimize the non-regressive, non-moronic parts of the mainstream left-wing platform, the ones that normal reasonable people actually do support and would support more readily if it weren't for the actually bad/stupid people who pollute the left with loud and extreme opinions, who for some reason we remain afraid of cutting off the way the right at least makes a showing of denouncing the alt-right (although they have gotten worse at that since tr*mp, who again was at least in part elected as vengeance for far lefties being extremely dangerously annoying)
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 17, 2018, 02:32:17 AM
Quote from: Nyerp on June 16, 2018, 08:13:45 PM
4chan preys on the minds of mentally ill or emotionally damaged white men and it's going to do lasting damage to their minds and how they think and live and also they will run people over at protests.


this is actually completely true though and it's quite terrifying

/pol/ and its associates go out of their way to deliberately induce mental illness and economic/racial anxiety among vulnerable loners and it's extremely dangerous and definitely directly leads to domestic terrorism

i would say that 4chan is actually somehow even (much) worse than tumblr in this regard; tumblr as far as i can see at least least doesn't deliberately induce mental illness in vulnerable people, rather tumblr concentrates/normalizes/glorifies/amplifies preexisting mental illness (which of course in and of itself is dangerous and stupid but not quite as evil as intentionally inducing it for the express goal of inciting hatred)
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: Daddy on June 17, 2018, 06:45:19 AM
Twitter
4chan
Reddit
Buzzfeed
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: don't let's on July 11, 2018, 06:29:38 PM
I forgot, video game sites of any kind
Title: Re: platforms that ruined the internet
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on July 11, 2018, 09:12:20 PM
Quote from: donʼt letʼs on July 11, 2018, 06:29:38 PM
I forgot, video game sites of any kind


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