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Title: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 05, 2017, 04:01:43 AM
could be names, towns or other nouns

for example, did you know our very own kaz likely pronounces 'prague' like 'prayg'

Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 03, 2017, 09:55:46 PM
i'm gonna make you guys scream

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Prague,_Minnesota

QuoteNew Prague /ˈnjuː ˈpreɪɡ/ NEW PRAYG[5]



also, doesn't necessarily have to be european

for example, i mispronounced 'oregon' similar to 'polygon' for years

and that's practically an american word so i have even less of an excuse
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 05, 2017, 04:01:57 AM
don't get me started on polish names

poor poland
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Thyme on May 05, 2017, 04:33:46 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 05, 2017, 04:01:43 AM
for example, i mispronounced 'oregon' similar to 'polygon' for years


i'm still gonna pronounce it like that and you can't do anything about it

and i can't think of any off the top of my head but i know there are a couple of anglicized french words that make me go "awdood;"
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Mando Pandango on May 05, 2017, 10:21:48 AM
"nitch"

awdood;
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: YPrrrr on May 05, 2017, 10:48:49 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 05, 2017, 04:01:57 AM
don't get me started on polish names

poor poland
Oddly it's my English last name that gives people problems versus my mother's maiden name girl; But yeah polish gets crazy
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 05, 2017, 04:01:43 AM
could be names, towns or other nouns

for example, did you know our very own kaz likely pronounces 'prague' like 'prayg'

Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 03, 2017, 09:55:46 PM
i'm gonna make you guys scream

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Prague,_Minnesota

QuoteNew Prague /ˈnjuː ˈpreɪɡ/ NEW PRAYG[5]



also, doesn't necessarily have to be european

for example, i mispronounced 'oregon' similar to 'polygon' for years

and that's practically an american word so i have even less of an excuse
And now I'm kinda mad at kaz
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 05, 2017, 10:54:53 AM
Quote from: Pop"icl...!Pop"icl...!Pop"icl...! on May 05, 2017, 10:21:48 AM
"nitch"

awdood;


uh......
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: YPrrrr on May 05, 2017, 10:58:28 AM
Quesodilla - Ques-uh-dilla instead of queso-deeya

Jalapeño - Jalapeeno or Halapeeno vs hala-pen-nyo

Guillotine - Gill-o-teen vs Gui-o-teen

Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Thyme on May 05, 2017, 11:01:23 AM
Quote from: Popsi on May 05, 2017, 10:21:48 AM
"nitch"

awdood;


jesus fucking christ yes
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Mando Pandango on May 05, 2017, 11:27:58 AM
I've never heard anyone say Kay-suh-dill-uh unironically.

One that bugs me is purple who say habañero instead of habanero. There's no ~
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: YPrrrr on May 05, 2017, 11:29:23 AM
Quote from: Pop"icl...!Pop"icl...!Pop"icl...! on May 05, 2017, 11:27:58 AM
I've never heard anyone say Kay-suh-dill-uh unironically.

One that bugs me is purple who say habañero instead of habanero. There's no ~
Go south young popsi! I heard it a bunch in PA and in the south
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Mando Pandango on May 05, 2017, 11:29:47 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 05, 2017, 10:54:53 AM
Quote from: Pop"icl...!Pop"icl...!Pop"icl...! on May 05, 2017, 10:21:48 AM
"nitch"

awdood;


uh......
got something to confess, fuckass?
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Mando Pandango on May 05, 2017, 11:31:10 AM
It goes it goes it goes it goes it goes it goes it goes it goes
Quote from: YPargh on May 05, 2017, 10:58:28 AM
Gill-o-teen
yuh
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: rdl on May 05, 2017, 12:52:05 PM
i refuse to spell fuccboi as fuckboy. its just gross.

also, zuckerberg is zuccerberg
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 05, 2017, 01:38:31 PM
Quote from: ADX on May 05, 2017, 12:52:05 PM
i refuse to spell fuccboi as fuckboy. its just gross.

also, zuckerberg is zuccerberg


can't cucc the zucc
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 05, 2017, 01:39:54 PM
i once heard someone joking say "muh-zÁh-rull-uh stix" while ordering at a restaurant

i lol'd p. hard

there was another good one he'd innovated that day and i'm struggling to remember it >.<
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 05, 2017, 01:42:06 PM
Fun Fact,,: Prayg was the origin of the plague.
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 05, 2017, 01:44:26 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcoc_QSZshs[/youtube]

now this is truly something else

how do these people not feel like absolute retards (http://i.imgur.com/2ZyNZL1.gif)
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 05, 2017, 01:44:46 PM
https://forvo.com/word/university_of_notre_dame/#en

americans are truly an embarrassment

every other language represented gets it right except for us
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: wawi on May 05, 2017, 03:19:55 PM
people that always have to say the words in an accent to try and sound as authentic as possible are pretty weird too
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 05, 2017, 03:21:22 PM
well i agree and i would and do suppress that urge irl (much as it may playgue me) for the purpose of healthy social assimilation (lol)

but the american bastardizations still trigger me something fierce
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: wawi on May 05, 2017, 03:25:30 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 05, 2017, 03:21:22 PM
well i agree and i would and do suppress that urge irl (much as it may playgue me) for the purpose of healthy social assimilation

but the american bastardizations still trigger me something fierce

i didnt mean trying to pronounce it correctly, that's fine. I mean the people that have put on a heavy fake accent to pronounce the words.
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: rdl on May 05, 2017, 03:33:47 PM
Quote from: wawi on May 05, 2017, 03:19:55 PM
people that always have to say the words in an accent to try and sound as authentic as possible are pretty weird too
this is how i feel and then people say im being insensitive. i can still speak some good amount of spanish, but i dont put on some cheesy mexican accent. do mexicans think "oh, this american guy doesnt intonate the way i do, hes rude"? no of course not.
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 05, 2017, 03:50:24 PM
Quote from: ADX on May 05, 2017, 03:33:47 PM
Quote from: wawi on May 05, 2017, 03:19:55 PM
people that always have to say the words in an accent to try and sound as authentic as possible are pretty weird too
this is how i feel and then people say im being insensitive. i can still speak some good amount of spanish, but i dont put on some cheesy mexican accent. do mexicans think "oh, this american guy doesnt intonate the way i do, hes rude"? no of course not.


if i had to guess, foreigners probably find americans speaking their native language in a patternistic american accent to be kind of cute and respectful of their local culture

i mean, there is a reason we all find accented english speech to be endearing

but the dumb tryhard who speaks bad [foreign language x] with an aggressively caricatured accent just sounds insulting
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Samus Aran on May 06, 2017, 12:39:37 AM
Quote from: YPargh on May 05, 2017, 10:58:28 AM
Jalapeño - Jalapeeno or Halapeeno vs hala-pen-nyo



this is a curse of living in the north. i've not met a single person up here who can pronounce this correctly.
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 06, 2017, 12:41:34 AM
kaz... how do you pronounce prague
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Samus Aran on May 06, 2017, 12:47:35 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 06, 2017, 12:41:34 AM
kaz... how do you pronounce prague


prahg
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 06, 2017, 12:51:26 AM
thank gaude

do you get weird looks for that
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Samus Aran on May 06, 2017, 12:55:44 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 06, 2017, 12:51:26 AM
thank gaude

do you get weird looks for that


no? i can't say i can recall the last time i would have said it aloud though. but i thought it was the general consensus that it was pronounced that way?
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 06, 2017, 01:08:45 AM
it is

... except among the americans
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 06, 2017, 01:11:33 AM
Quote from: Shinobu Oshino on May 06, 2017, 12:55:44 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 06, 2017, 12:51:26 AM
thank gaude

do you get weird looks for that


no? i can't say i can recall the last time i would have said it aloud though. but i thought it was the general consensus that it was pronounced that way?


Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 03, 2017, 09:55:46 PM

also that reminds me

i'm gonna make you guys scream

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Prague,_Minnesota

QuoteNew Prague /ˈnjuː ˈpreɪɡ/ NEW PRAYG[5]

Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Samus Aran on May 06, 2017, 01:21:59 AM
lol what the hell

i've never heard of that town before
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 06, 2017, 01:29:00 AM
Let's keep it that way.
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 06, 2017, 02:07:22 AM
...boyah, how is "appalachian" pronounced
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Mando Pandango on May 06, 2017, 02:09:28 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 06, 2017, 02:07:22 AM
...boyah, how is "appalachian" pronounced
apple-ate-chin

and i grew up in appalachia so
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 06, 2017, 02:10:58 AM
aaa-puh-láy-chee-in is what i had been saying, but thank goodness i have since corrected myself lol
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Mando Pandango on May 06, 2017, 02:12:10 AM
apple-at-chin is also acceptable but that's a southern pronunciation i think
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: don't let's on May 06, 2017, 06:28:25 AM
Quote from: Pop"icl...!Pop"icl...!Pop"icl...! on May 06, 2017, 02:12:10 AM
apple-at-chin is also acceptable but that's a southern pronunciation i think
that's basically what I say
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Thyme on May 06, 2017, 06:39:35 AM
for some reason i was under the impression the "ch" made a hard "k" sound in english smithicide;
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Hiro on May 08, 2017, 10:09:57 PM
apple-ay-shin
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Thyme on May 09, 2017, 06:11:58 AM
Quote from: Thyme on May 06, 2017, 06:39:35 AM
for some reason i was under the impression the "ch" made a hard "k" sound in english smithicide;


appa-lay-kian smithicide;
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 09, 2017, 06:22:31 AM
lol

to be fair, i'm pretty sure english is the only germanic language in which ch is pronounced rather than 'k' or 'kh'

i think we inherited that trait from french
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Mando Pandango on May 09, 2017, 05:02:46 PM
Quote from: Thyme on May 09, 2017, 06:11:58 AM
Quote from: Thyme on May 06, 2017, 06:39:35 AM
for some reason i was under the impression the "ch" made a hard "k" sound in english smithicide;


appa-lay-kian smithicide;
lel

Quote from: ƕɾο on May 08, 2017, 10:09:57 PM
apple-ay-shin
yeah actually i think this is closer to what i say gj hiro
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 10, 2017, 07:38:29 PM
Quote from: YPargh on May 05, 2017, 10:48:49 AM
And now I'm kinda mad at kaz


as you should be

Quote from: YPargh on May 05, 2017, 10:48:49 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 05, 2017, 04:01:57 AM
don't get me started on polish names

poor poland
Oddly it's my English last name that gives people problems versus my mother's maiden name girl; But yeah polish gets crazy


my last name is also english and nobody ever even reads or writes it correctly, let alone pronunciation awdood;
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Thyme on May 10, 2017, 07:47:08 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 10, 2017, 07:38:29 PM
my last name is also english and nobody ever even reads or writes it correctly, let alone pronunciation awdood;


gib-(https://i.imgur.com/D4TYMi3.png)s
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 10, 2017, 07:54:14 PM
lol

i mean the 'mispronunciation' doesn't really bother me because '-ings' becoming '-inz' is very often a dialectal thing

but some of the insane misspellings ('misspellinz') i've seen, man
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Mando Pandango on May 10, 2017, 08:11:15 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 10, 2017, 07:54:14 PM
lol

i mean the 'mispronunciation' doesn't really bother me because '-ings' becoming '-inz' is very often a dialectal thing

but some of the insane misspellings ('misspellinz') i've seen, man
everyone gets so close to saying my last name right but nobody ever gets it awdood;
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 10, 2017, 08:13:53 PM
i-is it cóck-uh-mo

not cock-ámmo, right
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Mando Pandango on May 10, 2017, 08:16:24 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 10, 2017, 08:13:53 PM
i-is it cóck-uh-mo

not cock-ámmo, right
you got it nigga
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 10, 2017, 08:21:08 PM
xiapproves;
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Mando Pandango on May 10, 2017, 08:23:14 PM
places i would like to visit one day:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castello_di_Caccamo
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Hiro on May 10, 2017, 09:14:56 PM
i just always say Vinnie Cackface
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Mando Pandango on May 10, 2017, 09:32:06 PM
i always say

[spoiler=grant perkins](http://i.imgur.com/4WamXGW.png)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on May 10, 2017, 09:49:15 PM
Quote from: donʼt letʼs on May 06, 2017, 06:28:25 AM
Quote from: Pop"icl...!Pop"icl...!Pop"icl...! on May 06, 2017, 02:12:10 AM
apple-at-chin is also acceptable but that's a southern pronunciation i think
that's basically what I say
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Mando Pandango on May 10, 2017, 09:52:36 PM
Quote from: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo on May 10, 2017, 09:49:15 PM
Quote from: donʼt letʼs on May 06, 2017, 06:28:25 AM
Quote from: Pop"icl...!Pop"icl...!Pop"icl...! on May 06, 2017, 02:12:10 AM
i'm so gay please let me suck your cock anyone just anyone i need a big juicy tube steak in my mouth right now
that's basically what I say

Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: silvertone on May 14, 2017, 12:43:58 AM
yo if u dont like whow i pronounce these gay ass faggot words from other coutnries then u can just stop reading these american posts fuck.
Title: Re: bad american pronunciations of (european) loanwords
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 14, 2017, 12:56:26 AM
i will imagine you pronouncing them correctly in the inner voice i attribute to you dittodood;