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Title: FUCK USB C
Post by: Daddy on April 30, 2017, 07:41:54 PM
i forgot it and i cannot charge the switch
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: strongbad on April 30, 2017, 09:37:38 PM
pwnd
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: bluaki on April 30, 2017, 10:17:10 PM
What, did you travel somewhere with just the console? That's the same as forgetting any other charger.

You can just drop the system in its dock when you're home to charge it.

I like USB C because I can have just one charger that works with my laptop, my phone, and my Switch.
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: Daddy on May 01, 2017, 10:39:02 AM
Quote from: bluaki on April 30, 2017, 10:17:10 PM
What, did you travel somewhere with just the console? That's the same as forgetting any other charger.

You can just drop the system in its dock when you're home to charge it.

I like USB C because I can have just one charger that works with my laptop, my phone, and my Switch.
I brought a bunch of USB cables just no USB c

i'm hoping one of the million vendors here has a usb cable
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: wawi on May 01, 2017, 03:34:59 PM
USB Cucked
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: YPrrrr on May 01, 2017, 03:52:31 PM
(http://cdnak1.psbin.com/0fenohh3dhe3bedr/images/setup/2016/Hat.png)
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: AAAAAAAA on May 01, 2017, 07:45:40 PM
usb c you later
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: Daddy on May 03, 2017, 10:38:07 AM
USB CUCK


also another attendee lent me his cable cuz we are all in the totally cool higher ed security group irc server 2gether
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: C.Mongler on May 04, 2017, 07:39:37 AM
call geek squad qucik!!!
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 05, 2017, 02:13:15 AM
fuck; the """switch""", you mean
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 07, 2017, 02:53:32 PM
one of these days i just need to buy as many usb cables as i can afford from aliexpress

i'm so tired of losing them or having them break on me
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: bluaki on May 07, 2017, 07:41:20 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 07, 2017, 02:53:32 PM
one of these days i just need to buy as many usb cables as i can afford from aliexpress

i'm so tired of losing them or having them break on me
I have a big drawer filled with USB cables. There's so many kinds now and somehow or another I ended up with a couple of each.

microUSB 2.0, microUSB 3.0, power-only microUSB, miniUSB, USB-B 2.0, USB-B 3.0, USB C-to-C 2.0, USB C-to-C 3.1, USB A-to-C 2.0, USB A-to-C 3.1, microUSB OTG, USB-C OTG, USB-A exension cable, and a few different lengths of some of those myface;

at least I probably won't run out
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on May 26, 2017, 10:30:07 PM
Quote from: bluaki on May 07, 2017, 07:41:20 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 07, 2017, 02:53:32 PM
one of these days i just need to buy as many usb cables as i can afford from aliexpress

i'm so tired of losing them or having them break on me
I have a big drawer filled with USB cables. There's so many kinds now and somehow or another I ended up with a couple of each.

microUSB 2.0, microUSB 3.0, power-only microUSB, miniUSB, USB-B 2.0, USB-B 3.0, USB C-to-C 2.0, USB C-to-C 3.1, USB A-to-C 2.0, USB A-to-C 3.1, microUSB OTG, USB-C OTG, USB-A exension cable, and a few different lengths of some of those myface;

at least I probably won't run out


yeah, with all the usb protocols we've cycled through they've become an absolute nuisance to keep track of awdood;

game consoles use mini or micro usb

phones use micro usb or now usb c

you have to be worried about whether it's 2.0 or 3.0 or quickcharge capable (quickcharge is great for your phone, but it'll destroy your ps4 controller and many other devices nyandood;)

otg for every standard

so in addition to your two dozen various usb cables of which only maybe six are ever useful at any given time, you also have to get a dozen different adapters to maximize compatibility across standards

>lagdroid losers having the audacity to make fun of apple for its adapter situation

It Just Worksā,,¢
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: bluaki on May 28, 2017, 10:11:59 PM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 26, 2017, 10:30:07 PM
Quote from: bluaki on May 07, 2017, 07:41:20 PM
I have a big drawer filled with USB cables. There's so many kinds now and somehow or another I ended up with a couple of each.

microUSB 2.0, microUSB 3.0, power-only microUSB, miniUSB, USB-B 2.0, USB-B 3.0, USB C-to-C 2.0, USB C-to-C 3.1, USB A-to-C 2.0, USB A-to-C 3.1, microUSB OTG, USB-C OTG, USB-A exension cable, and a few different lengths of some of those myface;

at least I probably won't run out


yeah, with all the usb protocols we've cycled through they've become an absolute nuisance to keep track of awdood;

game consoles use mini or micro usb

phones use micro usb or now usb c

you have to be worried about whether it's 2.0 or 3.0 or quickcharge capable (quickcharge is great for your phone, but it'll destroy your ps4 controller and many other devices nyandood;)

otg for every standard

so in addition to your two dozen various usb cables of which only maybe six are ever useful at any given time, you also have to get a dozen different adapters to maximize compatibility across standards
The things I use each USB connector for are:
microUSB 2.0: DualShock 4, Xbone controller, old phones I keep around for tinkering reasons, USB battery packs, raspberry pi, chromecast
microUSB 3.0: External hard drive
miniUSB: PS3 and Wii U controllers, some USB hubs, portable DVD drive
USB-B full size: printers (2.0), hard drive sata dock (3.0), some USB hubs
USB-C: Switch+controllers, my phone (Nexus 5X), my laptop (XPS 13)

In my opinion, every phone, controller, portable hard drive, USB hub, printer, etc should ditch the old connectors and move to USB-C so it's less of a mess moving forward. Transitioning is fine, but relying exclusively on outdated connectors (even miniUSB) for new stuff just serves to prolong the mess. At least USB-A can coexist fine (even if Apple doesn't want it to) since most of its devices have multiple ports anyway.

I'll be keeping my old game consoles and controllers around forever, but at least eventually in the future I hopefully won't ever have to use older cable types for anything else. Only miniUSB is now completely last-gen for controllers.

Also OnePlus should ditch their "Dash" charger (no interoperability with anything), Apple should fix their bad non-Pro MacBook charger, Nintendo should fix Switch's many weird charger/USB/dock issues, and Qualcomm phones should move to normal USB PD chargers akudood;

Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 26, 2017, 10:30:07 PM
you have to be worried about whether it's 2.0 or 3.0 or quickcharge capable (quickcharge is great for your phone, but it'll destroy your ps4 controller and many other devices nyandood;)

QC can destroy a DS4? I didn't know about that. I've never owned any QuickCharge chargers or devices and would prefer to keep it that way.

Quote from: Majorana's Mask on May 26, 2017, 10:30:07 PM
>lagdroid losers having the audacity to make fun of apple for its adapter situation

iPhones moved from the 30-pin to Lightning while Android (and the rest of the non-Apple world) is moving from microUSB to USB-C, so it's more-or-less the same situation except at least all the worthwhile Android phones still have headphone jacks for now. Apple is almost definitely about to move iPhone chargers from USB-A to USB-C which means the old lightning cables will be useless on the new chargers sillydood;
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 14, 2017, 08:03:58 AM
i've made a discovery

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BlDSJS73yEAJ:lifehacker.com/cables-can-significantly-impact-the-charging-speed-of-y-1532784722+&cd=13&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

That explains so much. awdood;

it's no wonder every single replacement cable in my house seems to charge devices at half the speed of oem cables

I just bought this nice metallic pink braided cable from aliexpress, only to discover that after a full night of charging my phone was only at around 75%. smithicide;

why in god's name do there need to be so many usb standards, some of which seem completely useless

why isn't every single usb cable being manufactured today of the 28/24 gauge variety

what could possibly be the advantage of the 28/28 gauge standard

it should not be this difficult to buy a single fully functional cable, the usb situation is simply inexcusably confusing

Quote from: bluaki on May 28, 2017, 10:11:59 PM
In my opinion, every phone, controller, portable hard drive, USB hub, printer, etc should ditch the old connectors and move to USB-C so it's less of a mess moving forward.

I'll be keeping my old game consoles and controllers around forever, but at least eventually in the future I hopefully won't ever have to use older cable types for anything else.

Also OnePlus should ditch their "Dash" charger (no interoperability with anything), Apple should fix their bad non-Pro MacBook charger, Nintendo should fix Switch's many weird charger/USB/dock issues, and Qualcomm phones should move to normal USB PD chargers akudood;


agreed on all counts

Quote from: bluaki on May 28, 2017, 10:11:59 PM
QC can destroy a DS4? I didn't know about that. I've never owned any QuickCharge chargers or devices and would prefer to keep it that way.


yep, there are reports of ds4 controllers being ruined by quickcharge all over the internet

but why would you prefer to avoid quickcharge lol befuddlement

Quote from: bluaki on May 28, 2017, 10:11:59 PM
iPhones moved from the 30-pin to Lightning while Android (and the rest of the non-Apple world) is moving from microUSB to USB-C, so it's more-or-less the same situation except at least all the worthwhile Android phones still have headphone jacks for now. Apple is almost definitely about to move iPhone chargers from USB-A to USB-C which means the old lightning cables will be useless on the new chargers sillydood;


yeah but apple's cool though
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: YPrrrr on June 14, 2017, 08:23:10 AM
Tec stop spreading lies that Apple is cool, Jobs is dead
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: bluaki on June 14, 2017, 09:05:38 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on June 14, 2017, 08:03:58 AM
i've made a discovery

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BlDSJS73yEAJ:lifehacker.com/cables-can-significantly-impact-the-charging-speed-of-y-1532784722+&cd=13&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

That explains so much. awdood;

it's no wonder every single replacement cable in my house seems to charge devices at half the speed of oem cables

I just bought this nice metallic pink braided cable from aliexpress, only to discover that after a full night of charging my phone was only at around 75%. smithicide;

why in god's name do there need to be so many usb standards, some of which seem completely useless

why isn't every single usb cable being manufactured today of the 28/24 gauge variety

what could possibly be the advantage of the 28/28 gauge standard

it should not be this difficult to buy a single fully functional cable, the usb situation is simply inexcusably confusing

USB-C fixes* this. Every USB-C cable (C-C, C-A, and C-Micro) is required by the USB spec to support up to 3A. With USB-PD that means up to 60W. But it's not perfectly simple: some USB-C cables (C-C only) can support more than that, up to 5A (100W), which only matters to higher-power devices like the 87W 15" MacBook Pro. And some uncertified longer cables on the market don't meet this 3A requirement because the manufacturer designed a 3ft cable with a good gauge but then simply extended the cable to 6ft without increasing the thickness.

But yes, with microUSB and every other type of USB cable made before USB-C was introduced, you can expect every cable to support at least 0.5A (USB 2.0) or 0.9A (USB 3.0), but anything above that is optional. Only a few of my microUSB cables support even 1.5A let alone the full 2.4A that iPad and Anker chargers provide.

Quote from: Majorana's Mask on June 14, 2017, 08:03:58 AM
Quote from: bluaki on May 28, 2017, 10:11:59 PM
QC can destroy a DS4? I didn't know about that. I've never owned any QuickCharge chargers or devices and would prefer to keep it that way.


yep, there are reports of ds4 controllers being ruined by quickcharge all over the internet

but why would you prefer to avoid quickcharge lol befuddlement
Because USB-PD exists now and is all-around better
Because QuickCharge does weird things that USB forbids which causes problems with DS4 and other devices
Because it's yet another class of incompatible accessories that won't interoperate well with anything I own
Because it's vendor lock-in
Because its revisions happen so often that they become obsolete even faster than other types of chargers
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: 6M69I69B9 on June 14, 2017, 10:21:07 PM
u suc big cock

haha
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: silvertone on June 15, 2017, 01:44:17 PM
owned
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 15, 2017, 08:51:11 PM
Quote from: bluaki on June 14, 2017, 09:05:38 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on June 14, 2017, 08:03:58 AM
i've made a discovery

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BlDSJS73yEAJ:lifehacker.com/cables-can-significantly-impact-the-charging-speed-of-y-1532784722+&cd=13&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

That explains so much. awdood;

it's no wonder every single replacement cable in my house seems to charge devices at half the speed of oem cables

I just bought this nice metallic pink braided cable from aliexpress, only to discover that after a full night of charging my phone was only at around 75%. smithicide;

why in god's name do there need to be so many usb standards, some of which seem completely useless

why isn't every single usb cable being manufactured today of the 28/24 gauge variety

what could possibly be the advantage of the 28/28 gauge standard

it should not be this difficult to buy a single fully functional cable, the usb situation is simply inexcusably confusing

USB-C fixes* this. Every USB-C cable (C-C, C-A, and C-Micro) is required by the USB spec to support up to 3A. With USB-PD that means up to 60W. But it's not perfectly simple: some USB-C cables (C-C only) can support more than that, up to 5A (100W), which only matters to higher-power devices like the 87W 15" MacBook Pro.


thank christ

Quote from: bluaki on June 14, 2017, 09:05:38 AM
And some uncertified longer cables on the market don't meet this 3A requirement because the manufacturer designed a 3ft cable with a good gauge but then simply extended the cable to 6ft without increasing the thickness.


ugh

Quote from: bluaki on June 14, 2017, 09:05:38 AM
But yes, with microUSB and every other type of USB cable made before USB-C was introduced, you can expect every cable to support at least 0.5A (USB 2.0) or 0.9A (USB 3.0), but anything above that is optional. Only a few of my microUSB cables support even 1.5A let alone the full 2.4A that iPad and Anker chargers provide.


and it only took me years of cable frustration to finally learn this awdood;
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 15, 2017, 08:57:50 PM
Quote from: bluaki on June 14, 2017, 09:05:38 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on June 14, 2017, 08:03:58 AM
but why would you prefer to avoid quickcharge lol befuddlement
Because USB-PD exists now and is all-around better
Because QuickCharge does weird things that USB forbids which causes problems with DS4 and other devices
Because it's yet another class of incompatible accessories that won't interoperate well with anything I own
Because it's vendor lock-in
Because its revisions happen so often that they become obsolete even faster than other types of chargers


i probably should have been more clear, i was using "quickcharge" as if it were a genericized trademark

i probably should be saying 'fast charge' instead to avoid confusion

and there are, of course, far better implementations of fast charge technology than Qualcomm Quick Chargeā,,¢, which i would not at all doubt is mediocre

in fact, qualcomm in general is consistently the most mediocre-at-best of the major mobile cpu designers

i go out of my way to avoid qualcomm phones, so i've never even actually used its implementation of fast charge lol

but i have used, for example, intel's, and intel's has never caused me any trouble
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 15, 2017, 09:03:45 PM
Quote from: YPargh on June 14, 2017, 08:23:10 AM
Tec stop spreading lies that Apple is cool, Jobs is dead


but jobs and his ghost would never, EVER allow for apple's approved oems to sell vastly inferior cables to save themselves a nickel per cable, at the clear cost of the user experience

very much unlike the careless usb coalition

that's what makes apple cool :'(
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: bluaki on June 16, 2017, 11:42:18 AM
Quote from: Majorana's Mask on June 15, 2017, 08:57:50 PM
i probably should have been more clear, i was using "quickcharge" as if it were a genericized trademark

i probably should be saying 'fast charge' instead to avoid confusion

and there are, of course, far better implementations of fast charge technology than Qualcomm Quick Chargeā,,¢, which i would not at all doubt is mediocre
Samsung Adaptive Fast Charge and Motorola's TurboPower (the older non USB-C version) both are reverse-engineered imitations of Qualcomm QuickCharge, so they suffer from the same issues or worse.

USB-C "fast charging" is pretty nice. You can expect basically every USB-C phone to support at least 15W (5V/3A) with the same standard charger, though the bundled chargers vary since Samsung/LG/HTC still bundle QuickCharge chargers instead while Google/Motorola/Sony seem to prefer standard USB-C. Pixel and other future high-end phones use USB-PD for 18W or more.

I have a bunch of USB-C chargers for both phones and laptops. I also own some non-QuickCharge USB-A chargers with pretty good speeds, like the iPad charger and some Anker ones which all support 2.4A (12W).

side note: Google's Pixel charger works fantastic with Switch, just as fast as Nintendo's charger, but unlike Nintendo's charger it's a lot less bulky and actually works with USB-C phones without problems

Quote from: Majorana's Mask on June 15, 2017, 08:57:50 PM
in fact, qualcomm in general is consistently the most mediocre-at-best of the major mobile cpu designers

i go out of my way to avoid qualcomm phones, so i've never even actually used its implementation of fast charge lol

but i have used, for example, intel's, and intel's has never caused me any trouble
Qualcomm beats MediaTek, but Samsung and Apple are better than both.
Thanks to Qualcomm's patent and licensing nonsense, Samsung can't even use their own Exynos chipsets in the US, and they're not allowed to license their own chipsets to other manufacturers
Intel and TI mobile chipsets are dead, Apple will never give their chipset to an Android phone

Exynos probably has a little hope in the US in the future when CDMA is finally dead (until then, importing is an option for GSM users), but not on any phone I'll ever buy since I don't like Samsung's software. The only other hope left for avoiding Qualcomm is Google's rumored work in making its own chipset.
Title: Re: FUCK USB C
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 20, 2017, 12:55:06 PM
Quote from: bluaki on June 16, 2017, 11:42:18 AM
Qualcomm beats MediaTek, but Samsung and Apple are better than both.


don't forget huawei girl;

the kirin series consistently destroys the firebreathing scrapdragons (even before they destroy themselves)

Quote from: bluaki on June 16, 2017, 11:42:18 AM
Thanks to Qualcomm's patent and licensing nonsense, Samsung can't even use their own Exynos chipsets in the US


this absolutely kills me

samsung phones are worse in the us than they are anywhere else in the world because of ancient tech standards and qualcomm being its usual garbage self

Quote from: bluaki on June 16, 2017, 11:42:18 AM
Intel and TI mobile chipsets are dead


it's funny to think that i caused this

>buy phone with texas instruments soc in 2013
>ti permanently withdraws from the smartphone industry soon thereafter

>buy phone with intel soc in 2015
>intel permanently withdraws from the smartphone industry soon thereafter

...Maybe I should buy a Qualcomm device next. tomatoes;

Quote from: bluaki on June 16, 2017, 11:42:18 AM
Exynos probably has a little hope in the US in the future when CDMA is finally dead (until then, importing is an option for GSM users)


and hopefully it dies soon because it really is holding the entire american sh*tphone industry back

Quote from: bluaki on June 16, 2017, 11:42:18 AM
The only other hope left for avoiding Qualcomm is Google's rumored work in making its own chipset.


and i pray to the gods that this rumour proves true

qualcomm desperately needs competition within android within the us