DISCUSS HERE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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This should be fun. n_n
cant wait for the hot 3 minute trailer
how much time left
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i'm intrigued, but i dunno how much mainstream appeal this will have. it seems to be 90% what i expected, though the stand seems a little, weird? like it just looks kind of awkward, not sure what the benefit of a screen-covering cradle is over what they have now with the wii u; i'm sure there's some sort of technical reason (or not, it's nintendo). the multiplayer stuff seems really cool honestly, kind of hearkens back to the OG wii days in my mind; if they built a good marketing campaign around that this time around they might actually be able to sell a couple of these. it'd be sick to whip this shit out at this casual bar me and my buds meet up at sometimes and play some mario kart or whatever
few games showed off too: zelda (duh), NINTYHEADS CAN FINALLY PLAY SKYRIM (lol), mario kart (which i'm not sure if it was new or just a port of 8 honestly, looked pretty similar stylistically), NBA 2k, new Mario Platformer, and a new Splatoon (possibly re-release of the first, but they did some updates as the hairstyles and animations are new) which they seem to be weirdly implying is going to be the NEXT BIG E-SPORT
i dunno, it seems neat to me, but i also thought the wii u was neat when i first heard about it so i'm not going to say for sure yet if this will flop on it's ass or not. 200% sure the 3ds is basically sharing a grave with the wii u now too, so at least i can combine my handheld and console budget for 2017 yes;
also i hope this thing doesnt have like a 45 minute battery life
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5uik5fgIaI[/youtube]
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though these look fucking weird to use as a controller lol hopefully you can bring and connect two of the pro pads they showed off because only a pleb would be able to stand playing like this
yeah i was not expecting it to be so similar to a lot of the fan ideas, but looks neat
having skyrim remastered on it gives me hope it should be in the relative ballpark of the ps4/xbone at least, also i still have a slight hope that RDR2 will be announced for it later today
only thing i'm concerned about is the attachment mechanism's durability
that mario game looks neato though
also the handheld shit is a bit big but i'm thinking that most of the hardware is in the screen because otherwise how could that be played on an airplane? maybe a 720 resolution in the handheld but the base has just enough to play the stuff at 1080 with maybe some extra effects and better framerate or somethin
That actually seems inventive, especially when compared to the wii and wii u.
Let's hope they haven't chosen some other horrible way to gimp it.
(http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/hrg0pxyVmoSzGFSuMmkU6qOaZwNVk_su/UJyaEvR9sqg00_dZoLE4Y3KitI8AShqa.jpg)
QuoteNintendo Switch world premier demonstrates new entertainment experiences from a home gaming system
In an introductory video released today (http://www.nintendo.com/switch), Nintendo provided the first glimpse of its new home gaming system and revealed that it is called Nintendo Switch. In addition to providing single and multiplayer thrills at home, the Nintendo Switch system also enables gamers to play the same title wherever, whenever and with whomever they choose. The mobility of a handheld is now added to the power of a home gaming system to enable unprecedented new video game play styles.
At home, Nintendo Switch rests in the Nintendo Switch Dock that connects the system to the TV and lets you play with family and friends in the comfort of your living room. By simply lifting Nintendo Switch from the dock, the system will instantly transition to portable mode, and the same great gaming experience that was being enjoyed at home now travels with you. The portability of Nintendo Switch is enhanced by its bright high-definition display. It brings the full home gaming system experience with you to the park, on an airplane, in a car, or to a friend’s apartment.
Gaming springs into action by removing detachable Joy-Con controllers from either side of Nintendo Switch. One player can use a Joy-Con controller in each hand; two players can each take one; or multiple Joy-Con can be employed by numerous people for a variety of gameplay options. They can easily click back into place or be slipped into a Joy-Con Grip accessory, mirroring a more traditional controller. Or, if preferred, the gamer can select an optional Nintendo Switch Pro Controller to use instead of the Joy-Con controllers. Furthermore, it is possible for numerous people to bring their Nintendo Switch systems together to enjoy local multiplayer face-to-face competition.
“Nintendo Switch allows gamers the freedom to play however they like,” said Reggie Fils-Aime, President and COO, Nintendo of America. “It gives game developers new abilities to bring their creative visions to life by opening up the concept of gaming without boundaries.”
Developers can design their games supporting a variety of play styles, which gives gamers the freedom to choose an experience that best suits them. Some of the publishers, developers and middleware partners announcing support for Nintendo Switch are as follows:
• 505 Games
• Activision Publishing, Inc.
• ARC SYSTEM WORKS Co., Ltd.
• ATLUS CO., LTD.
• Audiokinetic Inc.
• Autodesk, Inc.
• BANDAI NAMCO Entertainment Inc.
• Bethesda
• CAPCOM CO., LTD.
• Codemasters®
• CRI Middleware Co., Ltd.
• DeNA Co., Ltd.
• Electronic Arts
• Epic Games Inc.
• Firelight Technologies
• FromSoftware, Inc.
• Frozenbyte
• GameTrust
• GRASSHOPPER MANUFACTURE INC．
• Gungho Online Entertainment, Inc.
• HAMSTER Corporation
• Havok
• INTI CREATES CO., LTD.
• KOEI TECMO GAMES CO., LTD.
• Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
• LEVEL-5 Inc.
• Marvelous Inc.
• Maximum Games, LLC
• Nippon Ichi Software, Inc.
• Parity Bit Inc.
• PlatinumGames Inc.
• RAD Game Tools, Inc.
• RecoChoku Co., Ltd.
• SEGA Games Co., Ltd.
• Silicon Studio Corporation
• Spike Chunsoft Co., Ltd.
• SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD.
• Starbreeze Studios
• Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc.
• Telltale Games
• THQ Nordic
• Tokyo RPG Factory Co., Ltd.
• TT Games
• UBISOFT
• Ubitus Inc.
• Unity Technologies, Inc.
• Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
• Web Technology Corp
Today’s video incorporated short glimpses of representative gameplay to demonstrate the liberating nature of the Nintendo Switch home gaming system. Full game demonstrations, the list of launch window titles, as well as launch date, price, product configuration and related specifics, will be shown and announced prior to the March launch.
holy shit it took me 30 minutes to load this thread
p sure it's confirmed 720, runs on a modified nvidia tegra so it's all internal to the handheld. probably comparable to the wii u in terms of graphics fiedelity
so is it Nintendo's version of the OUYA...I dont get it
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 20, 2016, 08:02:16 AM
holy shit it took me 30 minutes to load this thread
p sure it's confirmed 720, runs on a modified nvidia tegra so it's all internal to the handheld. probably comparable to the wii u in terms of graphics fiedelity
http://boyah.net/forums/index.php?action=recent
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https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/10/20/nintendo-switch/
Dev kit leaked yesterday:
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ill wait. glad i dont need to buy one to play zelda, seems like the wii u will be good enough
that controlller looks a bit uncomfortable
Quote from: Commander Fuckass on October 20, 2016, 08:19:00 AM
so is it Nintendo's version of the OUYA...I dont get it
i mean i get having gripes with it, but i can't make sense of this analogy on any level besides "I THINK IT WILL FAIL" in which case you could just say it's a Wii U 2 which would actually make sense lol
-not developed by an indie manufacturer
-doesn't run on android (as far as we know)
-probably isn't $99
-has actual recognizable and established software titles
-is portable
-wasn't kickstarted
+might have early adopters who are blind morons i guess???
Quote from: Snowy on October 20, 2016, 09:05:49 AM
I can't wait to never take it out of the base/stand for it.
i can't wait to never put it into the stand hocuspocus;
this is literally the vita 2.0
the tiny mini-controllers look super uncomfortable. like a sideways wiimote is bad enough
looks cool otherwise tho
Quote from: squirrelfriend on October 20, 2016, 11:17:41 AM
this is literally the vita 2.0
vita rules so i'm ok with this assessment
Quote from: squirrelfriend on October 20, 2016, 11:17:41 AM
this is literally the vita 2.0
kind of a mix between the vita, wii u gamepad, and nvidia shield so yeah
Quote from: Ｐｏｐ"ｉｃｌ...！Ｐｏｐ"ｉｃｌ...！Ｐｏｐ"ｉｃｌ...！ on October 20, 2016, 11:19:14 AM
the tiny mini-controllers look super uncomfortable. like a sideways wiimote is bad enough
looks cool otherwise tho
yeah agreed.
also I'll post here what I posted on facebook:
I think of it more as a gaming tablet with controller(s) with a lot of console-ness so it's not really a portable and not really a normal console. i think maybe it's trying not to compete as much with the ps4 or xbone as it's a totally different category or device, though it could have a few multiplat titles on it to bring in that audience. I do hope it plays 3ds games, though it's unlikely
i'm also thinking it has roughly near-xbone-ish levels of power (probably a tad below but perhaps enough to get at least some multiplat games)
we're thinking, what, 6 inch screen, maybe 1080 resolution?? Unsure if it's a touch-screen though. Only complaints are the replacement of a d-pad with separate directional buttons, and the location of that power button NEEDS to change.
also I wonder what happens when the controllers are removed from the screen mid-game
I like that they didn't deceptively hide frame rate issues as seen within the first minute when the guy I totally spotted on grindr plays Zelda out of the dock
i think theyre trying to go for the novelty aspect like they did with the wii. sort of like the hoverboard. just something you buy, mess around with, and come back to every now and then. it's not a super serious console, idk it feels like a toy if anything.
idk what im trying to say.
oh wait the power button is along the top
i wonder what that button is underneath the directional buttons on the left joycon
to whoever was discussion console design structure, i think it was thyme i dont remember, if you can make it into this thread without the website crashing how would you describe the switch? i think it looks pretty good, but i would probably just call it modern idk.
its not going to be nearly on par with a vanilla bone/ps4 honestly. in fact it might even be slightly less capable than a wii u tbh
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which i personally think is fine, since for a handheld/tablet, it's still pretty damn great looking. it's possible the dock provides extra power or cooling which might crank up it's gpu a tad, but it's not going to drastically change anything honestly. but like you said, i think nintendo has thrown their towel in for the console race. they know people have adopted their "next gen" console of choice at this point, their competitors are already releasing 'upgrade' consoles, they dont really have a cart in the race. so they're focusing on the handheld market now, which who knows how that will go
The only two things I have to say about this thing really are
-The controller is kinda ass. I'll see myself using the "Pro" variant that they showed a bit.
-The fact that it's carts just handicaps them even more in keeping up with Sony and Msft.
But if it's like C. Mongler said, and they are just kind of assuming the handheld market thing, then I guess it's fine.
But it just makes me wonder if they put something huge on this thing, like the next bethesda game or something, will they have to do multi-cart releases?
Coming soon: Elder Scrolls 6, on 3 Switch carts!
i have no interest in this
Solid state media isn't that expensive anymore (well it's way more than discs but compared to the n64 days at least) so it's possible they will have a 32 gb or even 64 gb maximum for the cards, which would negate the need for multicart games.
Funny enough though, Bethesda put out a statement today saying that while they are actively working with Nintendo currently, they haven't announced Skyrim for the Switch at all yet lmao. It'd be fucking hilarious if it's some shit Elder Scrolls Travels Skyrim spinoff and not an actual port, or even just nothing at all!!!
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 20, 2016, 03:06:27 PM
Solid state media isn't that expensive anymore (well it's way more than discs but compared to the n64 days at least) so it's possible they will have a 32 gb or even 64 gb maximum for the cards, which would negate the need for multicart games.
yeah, i thought of this as well.
I figure they can probably store lots of data, much like a flash drive or something, but still, it makes me wonder
Still better than a Wii U
I'd actually buy one
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 20, 2016, 02:24:40 PM
its not going to be nearly on par with a vanilla bone/ps4 honestly. in fact it might even be slightly less capable than a wii u tbh
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which i personally think is fine, since for a handheld/tablet, it's still pretty damn great looking. it's possible the dock provides extra power or cooling which might crank up it's gpu a tad, but it's not going to drastically change anything honestly. but like you said, i think nintendo has thrown their towel in for the console race. they know people have adopted their "next gen" console of choice at this point, their competitors are already releasing 'upgrade' consoles, they dont really have a cart in the race. so they're focusing on the handheld market now, which who knows how that will go
I wouldn't say they're dropping the console market to focus on handhelds. In fact, this is more of a console than a traditional handheld. I'd say they're more targeting a different category entirely. This is supposed to be more like a gaming tablet, a third option akin to where tablets lie vs computers and smartphones. Nobody expects their tablet to be as powerful as their desktop, but it' still doing some impressive things here. Also while that graphic comparison shown is good, this will probably not be the X1 straight up, but likely a new optimized chip based on it. Plus as we know gaming systems do more with less hardware compared to computers & smartphones, so I think they'll probably get just a little more out of this. I don't expect it to have all the particle effects, but if they can run similar-looking games or get ports of PS4/xbone games that aren't dumbed down aside from a slight graphical downgrade, that's pretty fucking great.
Quote from: Big Goop on October 20, 2016, 02:31:41 PM
The only two things I have to say about this thing really are
-The controller is kinda ass. I'll see myself using the "Pro" variant that they showed a bit.
-The fact that it's carts just handicaps them even more in keeping up with Sony and Msft.
But if it's like C. Mongler said, and they are just kind of assuming the handheld market thing, then I guess it's fine.
But it just makes me wonder if they put something huge on this thing, like the next bethesda game or something, will they have to do multi-cart releases?
Coming soon: Elder Scrolls 6, on 3 Switch carts!
dude solid storage has caught up to if not surpassed discs at this point, ps4/xbone discs only hold ~50gb, and 64gb microsd cards have been fairly cheap for some time now. this isn't 2004 anymore.
yeah, well, I'm not super familiar with tech specs like this, so....
not to mention that I already acknowledged my misinformation with mongler.
also, I wonder how long battery life on this thing will be when in handheld mode.
Hopefully longer than the Wii U gamepad's 2 hours
i think it's good that the dock covers the screen because they know it'll collect dust like the wii i haven't touched in ten years
Quote from: squirrelfriend on October 20, 2016, 05:43:07 PM
i think it's good that the dock covers the screen because they know it'll collect dust like the wii i haven't touched in ten years
So you're saying you haven't touched your wii (lol) since a month before it came out?
Quote from: Khadafi on October 20, 2016, 06:12:36 PM
Quote from: squirrelfriend on October 20, 2016, 05:43:07 PM
i think it's good that the dock covers the screen because they know it'll collect dust like the wii i haven't touched in ten years
So you're saying you haven't touched your wii (lol) since a month before it came out?
just under ten years.
better?
that was 2006 level felt pedantry
hmm interesting idea. the split screen with "one console" on the go is kind of neat. i probably won't get one though
also lol splatoon as an esport
does it have touch screen or touchpad functionality though
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 20, 2016, 07:18:23 AM
HOPEFULLY I CAN MAKE THIS POST, THANKS BOYAH
i'm intrigued, but i dunno how much mainstream appeal this will have. it seems to be 90% what i expected, though the stand seems a little, weird? like it just looks kind of awkward, not sure what the benefit of a screen-covering cradle is over what they have now with the wii u; i'm sure there's some sort of technical reason (or not, it's nintendo). the multiplayer stuff seems really cool honestly, kind of hearkens back to the OG wii days in my mind; if they built a good marketing campaign around that this time around they might actually be able to sell a couple of these. it'd be sick to whip this shit out at this casual bar me and my buds meet up at sometimes and play some mario kart or whatever
bringing this to a bar would actually be super cool. also skeptical of the battery life
tbh not sure if ill get one
maybe if smash is updated
though i need other reasons too
if melee hd did happen to be a thing this would be a sweet platform for it tbh
>tfw nintendo implies they'll have any game that will be a crow drawing esport
>tfw the closest they'll get are smelly college boys playing melee (sry gingadave)
wow they just announced melee heich dee are you serious right now nintendo
hype
My biggest personal concern with Switch is storage space, since I like digital games now.
PS4/Xbone have 500~1000GB hard drives, but that can't work in a handheld like Switch. Wii U supports external hard drives, but that doesn't make sense in a handheld. I'm not sure if any SD card can hold the entire library of Switch games I'll ever own, considering single Wii U games can be like 20GB. I doubt the dock will let you use USB hard drives.
Hopefully they at least break free of 3DS's 32GB SD card size limit akudood;
Other than that I like this system so far. I guess I'm satisfied enough with modern mobile GPU performance (this is a huge leap from 3DS) that I don't too much mind Nintendo exclusively limiting themselves to that now as long as the Pro Controller is good. I'll still prefer PS4 for multi-platform games.
I still can't tell which version of Zelda BotW will be better for exclusively TV use.
Quote from: Khadafi on October 20, 2016, 09:31:55 PM
>tfw nintendo implies they'll have any game that will be a crow drawing esport
>tfw the closest they'll get are smelly college boys playing melee (sry gingadave)
lol i feel the exact same way
funny too because they didnt even want melee to be an esport (and actively opposed it for a while)
Quote from: ADX on October 20, 2016, 09:37:30 PM
wow they just announced melee heich dee are you serious right now nintendo
hype
are you fucking with me
edit: fuck u rdx
Quote from: squirrelfriend on October 20, 2016, 07:48:24 PM
does it have touch screen or touchpad functionality though
dunno, been a big question if that and motion/accelerometer controls are in this thing too. one would imagine yes since it's 2016, but at the same time i feel like nintendo is trying to cut costs on this thing as much as they reasonably can to appeal to moms and children alike, so it mighta got cut since i feel like you would have seen someone touch the screen at least once in the demo video. we'll seeeee!
Quote from: bluaki on October 20, 2016, 09:55:09 PM
My biggest personal concern with Switch is storage space, since I like digital games now.
I actually hadn't considered this, that's a good point. Hopefully they'll allow storage on at least 128 GB solid state media, buuuut who knows. Given the specs thus far I don't think games are going to exceed the 10-15 GB range at the extreme end, but i'm just speculating.
QuoteI still can't tell which version of Zelda BotW will be better for exclusively TV use.
I wouldn't be shocked if a Wii U has the slight edge on this thing in terms of fidelity. But too soon to tell for sure.
RUMOUR MILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL:
http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/10/a-deep-dive-on-lpvgs-nintendo-switch-reports-and-info/
summary:
-multitouch screen is very likely, but more intended for menus, drawing, and a mario maker port, than anything else since every game needs to be playable without touch once it's in the dock
-at least a few seconds of transition time between docking and undocking the Switch
-dock most likely does increase processing power (though I've heard otherwise from another source???), though whether it's simply allowing for OC the existing hardware via more power/cooling or actually adds additional processing power (akin to the PSVR thingy) is not clear
-battery life rumored to be THREE MOTHA FUCKIN HOURS so don't stay too long at your neighbor's hip rooftop party. if this is true i hope to god there's at least an external charging cable that doesn't require you to dock the switch, ninty can't be that dumb right
also i hoped u liked that trailer because that's all we're getting this year lol
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/789289178684981248
there will be third party battery packs. battery life doesnt even matter
um it does actually because it would not be able to compete in the home console market without the portability gimmick
yeah three hours is pretty disappointing but not unexpected imo; i think if you played civ 5 on a mid range laptop non-stop you'd probably be about out of juice after 4 hours or so. GPUs be hungry
rip long standing nintendo gimmicks like decent battery life, dual screens
good riddance 3D. forced bulky gamepad
I hope they sell that car mount depicted in the trailer :(
Quote from: ADX on October 21, 2016, 09:33:43 AM
there will be third party battery packs. battery life doesnt even matter
#batterylivesmatter
From reading boyah over the past 24 hours, it is my perception that boyagers think a lot of things don't matter lol
nothing matters tbh
so nintendo seriously believes that attractive, well-adjusted young adults are going to pay $400 to play video games ~in public~ on their giant, unwieldy tablets
boy are they in for an unpleasant surprise
i don't even really see people using general purpose tablets in public anymore, their oversized phones are more than adequate for day-to-day tasks
Pokemon Go was the stress test to see if neets would go outside
i mean you would actually need to carry a satchel with you at all times to make this thing even remotely portable
the switch is exactly what i feared a """hybrid""" console would be, a jack of all trades, master of none
it's simply too big to portable in any practical sense, too underpowered to be competitive as a home console, and it's virtually guaranteed to be overpriced for what it offers as a result of having to be two devices in one
Quote from: [BANNED] on October 20, 2016, 07:39:32 AM
That actually seems inventive, especially when compared to the wii and wii u.
to me this just makes nintendo's claims of 'original concept do not steal!!!' look even more absurd
there is nothing novel or innovative about this idea, it's just taking the wii u and remote play (neither of which is especially popular) to their logical extreme
it will be gimped in plenty of ways because it's a device that inherently contradicts itself, combining a handheld and a home console into one unit requires that you sacrifice the advantages of both
and what an amazing catalog of third parties: a six-month-old sports game, and a five-month-old remaster of the five-year-old skyrim
90% of the people with any remote interest in skyrim have poured their 200 hours into it already
90% of the remaining 10% will play the remaster, with mods (or "mods" in the ps4's case), on a platform they already own, a full five months before the mod-free switch version is finally on sale for $60 (by which point all other versions will have been discounted to $40)
this is pretty much exactly what they wii u's launch looked like
all the switch has going for it is the zelda game it's taken hostage
well actually skyrim isn't even confirmed to be on the switch at all, bethesda has gone on record saying it has no titles specifically confirmed for switch yet lol
Wow. psyduck;
srsly kaz had like the exact same reaction when I told him. Lol
I think the video had fine print saying "trademarks used with permission"
zelda, dq x, dq xi, and just dance are literally the only confirmed games for it right now lol
DUAL SCREENS WILL NEVER WORK!
they should have moved animal crossing to it (dunno about Pokemon because i see its demise coming)
you see pokemon's demise coming? you must be joking lol the franchise is still ridiculously popular
The fact that Pokemon allocated less money to its upcoming anime series and cannibalized its traditional games with Pokemon go is the reason why I see its demise
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 20, 2016, 03:06:27 PM
Solid state media isn't that expensive anymore (well it's way more than discs but compared to the n64 days at least) so it's possible they will have a 32 gb or even 64 gb maximum for the cards, which would negate the need for multicart games.
but it's yet another point in an ever-expanding list that discourages third parties from supporting the switch
porting to the switch is already a highly expensive proposition for third parties due to the costs (financial, temporal and otherwise) of supremely optimizing code for hardware that's two generations behind in computing power
but now they also have to pay a premium for solid state storage vs. discs (optical storage is about 1/10 the price/gigabyte of flash storage)
and the fruit of their labor would ultimately prove to be an inferior product to the ps4 and xbox equivalents every single time because of the immense power discrepancy
meaning ported software wouldn't sell well at all
so most developers are going to reasonably look at the switch and say 'what's the point', while pretending they're going to support it early on for marketing reasons just like what happened with the wii u
honestly, when after all these years nintendo still hasn't made any earnest attempt whatsoever to reconcile with third parties, nobody can blame them for snubbing nintendo
digital distribution, tec
yeah i'm not sold on that argument whatsoever, we've seen a 3 minute marketing pitch and have no idea what 3rd party support they'll have (or lack thereof) nor development/porting process devs have to go through on this lol
regardless tec would only be happy if nintendo put out a 3 minute trailer that said "we're sorry" to announce them leaving the gaming business forever. unless you seriously believe that nintendo's only way back into the market would be putting out a $500 ps4pro competitor at this stage in the game, which l-o-fucking-l
Quote from: ƕɾο on October 20, 2016, 05:33:29 PM
I wouldn't say they're dropping the console market to focus on handhelds. In fact, this is more of a console than a traditional handheld. I'd say they're more targeting a different category entirely. This is supposed to be more like a gaming tablet, a third option akin to where tablets lie vs computers and smartphones. Nobody expects their tablet to be as powerful as their desktop, but it' still doing some impressive things here.
i simply fail to see the appeal of such an inbetween device
if i wanted to play games on the go, why not get something that's legitimately portable and can easily be slipped into my pocket (and <half the price of the switch)
if i wanted a proper home console experience, why spend $400 on a product that's wholly inferior to the equivalently priced ps4 pro
how exactly do you market this to someone who really only plays games at home and never outdoors, someone who values power and cost effectiveness
how exactly do you market this to someone who's exactly the opposite and only ever plays on the go, someone who values extreme portability, discreetness, battery life, and cost effectiveness
Quote from: ƕɾο on October 20, 2016, 05:33:29 PMAlso while that graphic comparison shown is good, this will probably not be the X1 straight up, but likely a new optimized chip based on it. Plus as we know gaming systems do more with less hardware compared to computers & smartphones, so I think they'll probably get just a little more out of this. I don't expect it to have all the particle effects, but if they can run similar-looking games or get ports of PS4/xbone games that aren't dumbed down aside from a slight graphical downgrade, that's pretty fucking great.
according to rumours it's the x2, but who knows at this point
in either case it won't even compete with the xbox one, which means third parties will ignore nintendo yet again
Quote from: ƕɾο on October 20, 2016, 05:33:29 PM
dude solid storage has caught up to if not surpassed discs at this point
in capacity (and even then only arguably), not in price
so long as discs exist, flash storage will never be cheaper per unit than optical storage is
(http://i.imgur.com/nL0tcYH.jpg)
this would make me very excited
also the mspaint mockup of switching out the switch controllers for gcn controller halves or whatever. that'd be kinda neat
the switch is $400? source? doodthing;
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 21, 2016, 04:22:31 PM
regardless tec would only be happy if nintendo put out a 3 minute trailer that said "we're sorry" to announce them leaving the gaming business forever.
actually i am extremely disappointed that nintendo seems to be moving in the direction of doing just that
the switch is a not-so-tacit admission that nintendo is non-competitive in the home console space and has given up on trying, instead conceding that market entirely to sony and microsoft
contrary to your misunderstanding of me, i actually do like nintendo
i want them to be successful
i want them to give me reasons to continue to support them
i want them to not make ridiculous decisions that hasten their demise and result in them becoming yet another shovelware app store developer in a sea of thousands
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 21, 2016, 04:34:28 PM
the switch is $400? source? doodthing;
hillary rigged the primary? source? sillydood;
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 21, 2016, 04:34:28 PM
the switch is $400? source? doodthing;
i could see nintendo getting it down to maybe $300 minimum, and at that price anyone serious about gaming at home is just going to fork over the extra $100 for the ps4 pro
If Nintendo uses old hardware like tec postulates, why wouldn't it be lower? The dock is just a charging and video output dock
Quote from: squirrelfriend on October 21, 2016, 04:55:57 PM
If Nintendo uses old hardware like tec postulates, why wouldn't it be lower? The dock is just a charging and video output dock
i said earlier that according to rumours it might be using the x2, which, while enormously insufficient for home console gaming, certainly isn't "old hardware"
if it actually does use something older than that then it'll be even weaker than we already expect it to be
it also doesn't have an optical drive so that cuts down the cost
But then there's the weak yen
And then again, no TPP agreement in sight
but if the dock really does have a supplementary processor then that will substantially increase the cost
Quote from: Tectron on October 21, 2016, 05:27:58 PM
but if the dock really does have a supplementary processor then that will substantially increase the cost
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/21/13356760/nintendo-switch-dock-functionality-tv-output-power
also, how exactly does this appeal to families with two or three similarly-aged children who would naturally all want their own handheld console
$600 for three 3ds units satisfies all of them
the switch does not offer a cost-effective or sensible solution to that problem
did we see any children in that teaser guys
Quote from: squirrelfriend on October 21, 2016, 05:30:18 PM
Quote from: Tectron on October 21, 2016, 05:27:58 PM
but if the dock really does have a supplementary processor then that will substantially increase the cost
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/21/13356760/nintendo-switch-dock-functionality-tv-output-power
so we're expected to believe that the tegra alone is adequate for aaa multiplats, huh
Quote from: squirrelfriend on October 21, 2016, 05:34:53 PM
did we see any children in that teaser guys
did we see anyone who actually looks like they play video games recreationally (let alone in public) in that teaser, guys
i seriously doubt that the lack of children in a single promo vid means that nintendo is going to completely shift away from marketing to children after all these years of marketing almost exclusively to children
check out the last minute where splatoon is depicted as an esport
Quote from: squirrelfriend on October 21, 2016, 04:13:06 PM
digital distribution, tec
If that's the solution, I suuuure hope the Switch has an internal storage capacity of 128GB minimum. goowan
(spoiler: it won't)
And I sure hope Nintendo's finally succeeded in designing a modern, fully featured network. goowan
i guarantee it won't be more than $300, or i'll drink a whole bottle of wine
the 3ds will be obsolete once the switch launches
and parents will only need to buy one switch as the multiplayer is clearly the marketing shtick
[spoiler]at least parents will think that and then nintendo will have tricked them into buying another one once their kids whine about it[/spoiler]
or alternatively, children will just play nintendo's free to play mobile games
mario tap em all or whatever was said to have an entry price
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 21, 2016, 05:48:11 PM
the 3ds will be obsolete once the switch launches
yes, and the switch is a poor substitute for the 3ds (or a true 3ds successor) as it isn't really portable
which leaves nintendo fans who value portability with the options of either buying a satchel and acquiescing to the switch, or just gaming on their phones
Quote from: squirrelfriend on October 21, 2016, 05:52:02 PM
or alternatively, children will just play nintendo's free to play mobile games
and the very last thing nintendo should be doing is driving its former hardware owners to the iphone
nintendo retained a healthy niche for itself in the handheld console space and now with the switch they're seriously jeopardizing that
i will carry the switch literally the exact same way i carry my 3ds xl (which is equally un portable???), in the front pocket of my backpack (do not steal)
um as this teaser illustrates, Nintendo is targeting young urban professionals who have lots of pockets quite literally with their cargo pants etc.
but the 3ds xl is pocketable, barely
it isn't significantly larger (lengthxwidth) than the plus models of the iphone (though it is certainly thicker)
poketability matters for portability, you don't want to have a bag be a requirement for making full use of a supposedly "portable" device, otherwise it's a bad portable
you can put an iPhone 6s Plus in your pocket
that's my point
and the non-xl 3ds is even more pocketable
there is no way anyone is cramming the """portable""" switch into a pocket though
solution: take off the sides and put into pocket
and now parts of it are sharing pocket space with my keys
that's sure to end well
and the screen alone is too large to be pocketable even without the controllers lol
It'll go in yuppie vests or w/e
http://www.bigpockets.com/catalog/big-pockets-equatorial-vest
I myself will be treading uncharted territory (outside) in this vest
if you're wearing pockets that can fit a fucking xl without looking like someone with a weird uncomfortable box dick, you probably aren't going out of the house much anyways ;)
pro tip: you will never get laid in cargo shorts
then again, why are you assuming my gender ;)
Quote from: squirrelfriend on October 21, 2016, 06:37:26 PM
then again, why are you assuming my gender ;)
having an iphone 6 plus in your pocket makes it pretty obvious you've got a big weird box dick my friend
whatever model of toaster you identify as certainly has a huge meaty cock
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 21, 2016, 06:37:25 PM
pro tip: you will never get laid in cargo shorts
this sounds like a cis het male centric opinion
universal constant, cargo's law
(http://assets.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/no-slug/7dcb03ab2ae57f8a38658fe5b2e739ba.jpg)
"we've got our 3ds xls and we're ready to fuck"
tfw I am into dads
Quote from: Tectron on October 21, 2016, 04:30:58 PM
how exactly do you market this to someone who's exactly the opposite and only ever plays on the go, someone who values extreme portability, discreetness, battery life, and cost effectiveness
Easy: "You have no other choice anymore if you want anything that actually has buttons and continues to get new releases." sillydood;
Also, there's a lot of types of people that value handhelds but don't terribly mind those issues.
Students and women already very often carry a bag, so throwing a Switch in there isn't a big deal. Even phones are now too big for pockets anyway.
A lot of people have some spare time every day like during commutes or while waiting for an event to start, but they might not need 3 hours of battery life in one day for that.
If you want to bring it when visiting a friend or relative, I think you'd normally bring a charger with any device you expect to use an extended amount of time, so battery life isn't critical there either.
Besides, the market has already demonstrated that they don't care if every single phone on the market is an enormous slab of glass, so why would they care about Switch's size.
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/7cuGiYf.jpg)[/spoiler]
thx u bluaki for explaining my feelings without being a dick
yeah you're alternatives are an iphone/pad with the typical caliber of games that comes on that (which admitidly is fine for a lot of casuals) orrrrrr....nothing. there's not another serious gaming handheld in the market.
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 21, 2016, 06:39:58 PM
universal constant, cargo's law
I think you are ignoring the bear subculture btw
Stop being so hetcetric
i've told you several times i am an asexual magekin
if you're a magekin, why can't you disappear???
you should really consider other perspectives into why people wear cargo pants and shorts other than your asinine pronouncements on their genitalia
back on topic:
since the teaser depicted a car trip one would think it would have a decent battery life for such an application like playing on the go for more than four hours. hopefully it has a car adapter or smth
Quote from: squirrelfriend on October 21, 2016, 08:00:52 PM
hopefully it has a car adapter or smth
hopefully it just has a USB charger so you already have a huge selection of car adapters and other adapters to choose from
tfw u project gender onto cargo shorts
women can wear cargo shorts too cislord
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 21, 2016, 08:26:00 PM
tfw u project gender onto cargo shorts
women can wear cargo shorts too cislord
you did just that however
not me
Quote from: squirrelfriend on October 21, 2016, 06:37:26 PM
then again, why are you assuming my gender ;)
????????????????????????????????????????????????
yeah, why are you assuming that i have a dick or only a dick
yiiiiiiikes
sex ≠ gender?
your pronouncement that i identify as an inanimate object (your words: "toaster") is distinct from a gender identity
that was general terms silly
you should choose better words
i learned it from you daddy ;)
again, please don't call people toasters unless they proclaim themselves as one
can you two stop shitting up a perfectly good thread
thanks
cmongler had to interject about one's genitalia and i felt i had to comment
this is not an antagonizing space. please follow the house rules. degenderize your mind.
hey i needed the quota, you guys make it easy
that's what the election thread is for
Love the shit out of the 3ds and vita. Really excited for this
I found this picture:
[spoiler](https://www.nintendo.co.jp/corporate/release/2016/img_161020/img02.png)[/spoiler]
If you zoom in pretty far, you can see a USB port on the middle of the bottom edge, right in between two small holes that probably help it line up with nubs in the dock. I think it looks like USB-C, but it's hard to tell between Type-C and Micro at this awful lighting+resolution+angle. It's definitely not MiniUSB, MicroUSB3.0, or anything like the charging connectors they used for 3DS or GamePad.
It doesn't look like there are any exposed metal contacts on the bottom or back of the console, so this is probably the docking connector. I don't know how I feel about docking in a stand with a USB connector sticking out of it, but if it's USB-C at least they're doing it with one of the most durable mating connectors. USB-C would perfectly explain how they deal with HDMI 1.4 video output, charging, and USB host (2+ USB-A) simultaneously on one port. This also means you can use the same charger on-the-go for Switch as you might have for Android phones or Mac/Chome/Dell/HP laptops.
Docks are more likely to have incompatible video standards, but you might be able to use Switch with existing docks meant for Macbooks and other laptops (including this expensive $130 thing that I already own (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FKMN1BW)). I'd expect Nintendo's simpler dock, if sold on its own, will MSRP at more like $50~60 and of course mass-produce at more like a third of that price.
USB-C is for now still a moderately uncommon port compared to MicroUSB, but by the middle of Switch's lifespan I'm sure it'll be harder to find any new laptop or Android phone that doesn't use it.