Does anyone have one or know anything about them? My current laptop might as well be a desktop because the battery is shot and it is fuckin huge (17in). I'm traveling soon and a Chromebook seems like it would cover everything I need in a simple manner. Thoughts??????? Fuel my consumerism pls
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00MMLV7VQ?vs=1
Dam very tempting. I didn't even think about dualbooting with ubuntu but that sounds like a great idea
i don't know, wouldn't a tablet with a peripheral keyboard be more useful? considering you can only use web browser, email, maps... Android would be more versatile, or even a Surface 2... personally I wouldn't choose a chromebook over a phone or over a notebook, despite the low cost.
Chromebooks are great if you want:
* Cheap ($150~$300)
* Great battery life
* Tiny / super portable
* An overall pleasant, "just works" experience
* An actual keyboard (not tablet) and good trackpad
* Something to just browse web, edit documents, and maybe access remote servers
But not good at all if you want:
* To run any Windows-only or Mac-only software
* To run non-Chrome Linux software without much tinkering (and sacrificing a lot of battery life)
* 3D Games
* Powerful CPU or any sort of dedicated GPU
* A premium or high-end feel (except Chromebook Pixel)
* Large built-in storage to hold a lot of videos or whatever (you can carry extra storage devices instead)
* A large screen
I have an Acer C720, which I bought over a year ago for $200 (2GB RAM, 16GB SSD, Celeron 2955U). It doesn't seem to be in production anymore, but the one you linked is probably its closest current equivalent.
Overall, I recommend Chromebooks, but it really depends on your use-case.
[spoiler=some notes about comparing models]* Some of them have ARM CPUs, which don't work as well with dual-OS because of BIOS differences and some limited Linux software compatibility
* Whether Intel or ARM, even these budget processors shouldn't feel very sluggish for casual tasks. Some especially complicated web pages (or google drive documents) might take a couple seconds to finish loading, but it's not too noticeable. They're nothing like the kind of slugishness you might be familiar with from old laptops.
* Like with most budget laptops, screens are mostly 1366x768. There's a fairly steep price hike if you want any better: the Acer 15" model is $350 for 1080p (it also has better RAM+storage+CPU)
* If you want dual-OS, 2GB RAM is plenty usable, but running 4GB is a fairly drastic improvement. The difference is a lot less noticeable if you stick to ChromeOS.
* 16GB SSDs give you about 10GB of free space for user content. Installing a second OS consumes around 4~8GB of that depending on how much stuff you install.[/spoiler]
I actually have a very deep technical understanding of ChromeOS hocuspocus;
Quote from: infinite luxury on April 19, 2015, 11:54:40 PM
i don't know, wouldn't a tablet with a peripheral keyboard be more useful? considering you can only use web browser, email, maps... Android would be more versatile, or even a Surface 2... personally I wouldn't choose a chromebook over a phone or over a notebook, despite the low cost.
In my opinion, a Chromebook is definitely better for actually getting stuff done:
* A real laptop keyboard is better than a flimsy tablet-attached keyboard for both typing speed and not needing a desk
* On-screen keyboards are even worse
* Keyboard shortcuts are great
* I like trackpad better than touchscreens
* Most ~10" tablets are quite a bit more expensive than a typical small Chromebook.
* You can just run Ubuntu or whatever else instead of ChromeOS if you want to
* Desktop/laptop Chrome has a lot more features than Android browsers
ChromeOS does have an apps system too, but it's mainly for offline versions of web sites like gmail and google docs. What about Android is more versatile? All the useful apps I know of are just for things you can access just as easily (if not even moreso) from a desktop/laptop web browser.
I don't really care for tablets, but I think Chromebooks and ultrabooks are great.
Quote from: infinite luxury on April 19, 2015, 11:54:40 PM
i don't know, wouldn't a tablet with a peripheral keyboard be more useful? considering you can only use web browser, email, maps... Android would be more versatile, or even a Surface 2... personally I wouldn't choose a chromebook over a phone or over a notebook, despite the low cost.
yeah. i still honestly do not understand what purpose the chromebook has.
and jesus, i just decided to look up the chromebook pixel and google seriously thinks it can charge macbook prices for these things? what the hell
Quote from: David on April 20, 2015, 08:02:53 AM
Quote from: infinite luxury on April 19, 2015, 11:54:40 PM
i don't know, wouldn't a tablet with a peripheral keyboard be more useful? considering you can only use web browser, email, maps... Android would be more versatile, or even a Surface 2... personally I wouldn't choose a chromebook over a phone or over a notebook, despite the low cost.
yeah. i still honestly do not understand what purpose the chromebook has.
and jesus, i just decided to look up the chromebook pixel and google seriously thinks it can charge macbook prices for these things? what the hell
The new Chromebook Pixel model released just last month is actually like $300 cheaper than the 2013 model.
In terms of purely hardware, it's a pretty good machine and about what you would expect from that price point. The only major hardware detriment is the storage size: max 64GB (non-removable). In all other hardware respects, it's either on par with (CPU, RAM) or better than (display, battery, size, weight) the more expensive 13-inch Macbook Pro models.
The OS lowers its perceived value, and honestly at that price most people probably are better off getting something that Windows supports, but that doesn't change the hardware price. Google makes it to be the best device to develop ChromeOS on and as a reference machine for other manufacturers to inherit features from; they don't even try to market them to normal people because they know it's pointless, but they let anyone who actually wants it buy it.
If I had that much money to burn on a laptop, I'd prefer Chromebook Pixel over a Macbook, because I almost exclusively use Linux and I dislike Mac keyboards and its screen really is great. But I'm an oddity, and even I would probably prefer something that makes things easier and can dual-boot Windows once in a while like maybe the newest XPS 13, even at the sacrifice of some screen quality.
I believe that ChromeOS actually is a fully capable platform, but it's one that nobody really develops notable software for. The Chrome Web Store supports apps that do anything you'd expect a non-Administrator desktop application to do.
yeah bluaki you've basically confirmed that a chromebook would be perfect for me
is your's 11.6"? seems like a workable screen size.
also, what OS have you dualbooted alongside chromeOS?
i am thinking of getting like a 32gb flash drive with ubuntu or whatever OS would be more suitable and boot off of that when chromeos isn't up the the task at hand. good idea?
The easiest and most popular way to handle another OS alongside ChromeOS actually isn't exactly dual-booting.
There's a script available called crouton which lets you set things up so that, while you're in ChromeOS, you can at any time essentially start up an Ubuntu session that runs alongside it. The 16GB internal SSD on Chromebooks is enough to fit it fairly easily; you don't need a flash drive. Both systems are set up to share the same Downloads folder, which makes using them together even easier. While the Ubuntu session is running, you can press a keyboard combination to switch between having it or ChromeOS fill up your screen. It doesn't require much tinkering; it takes about 3 terminal simple commands for initial set up, then one terminal command to run it. More details here: https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton
The way it actually works is based on the fact that ChromeOS itself is Linux. It just uses the same kernel from ChromeOS to run software from Ubuntu in a separate simultaneous graphical session. It automatically manages quite a few other things to make both systems work together better. This setup isn't perfect though: last I checked, the most annoying nuance to using it is that you can't really adjust volume from within the Ubuntu session, so you have to briefly flip back to ChromeOS whenever you want to change volume levels.
Yes, my Chromebook is also 11.6" screen size. I think this is a good size. A lot nicer to use and carry than the big 17" laptop I used to use before I got it.
that's so cool
from some brief reading it sound like you can get a lot of steam games to work through ubuntu on crouton which is crazy
i'll post with my results if/when i get a chromebook in the next couple weeks
Quote from: udderfailure on April 21, 2015, 09:28:14 AM
that's so cool
from some brief reading it sound like you can get a lot of steam games to work through ubuntu on crouton which is crazy
i'll post with my results if/when i get a chromebook in the next couple weeks
Don't count on steam being decent. Even the base Steam client needs a lot of storage space.
You can get more space by either buying a bigger SSD (if your model supports replacing it) or maybe a flash drive (I'm not sure how well this would work). Even with the space, you're still on one of the lower end Intel CPUs with integrated graphics. Sure, you have enough power to run 2D stuff, but not much more than that. Maybe some really old 3D games can have tolerable frame rates.
seems like lots of people have had success with either an SD card or a 32gb usb 3.0
and i only really play 2D games anyway so no worries. just being able to play FTL is enough lol
could a chromebook be a good thin client via rdesktop in Ubuntu huhdoodame;
Quote from: infinite luxury on April 21, 2015, 11:06:15 AM
could a chromebook be a good thin client via rdesktop in Ubuntu huhdoodame;
ChromeOS itself also has an RDP client (and a VNC one too). No need to use Ubuntu for that.
Possible problems with using it as a RDP thin client:
* 1366x768
* The keyboard might annoy some people trying to control other systems. No caps lock key. No F11/F12 keys. ChromeOS maps things so that you can use Alt+Super as caps lock. It also maps all 12 function keys to Super+{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,-,=}
Quote from: bluaki on April 21, 2015, 03:11:47 PM
Quote from: infinite luxury on April 21, 2015, 11:06:15 AM
could a chromebook be a good thin client via rdesktop in Ubuntu huhdoodame;
ChromeOS itself also has an RDP client (and a VNC one too). No need to use Ubuntu for that.
Possible problems with using it as a RDP thin client:
* 1366x768
* The keyboard might annoy some people trying to control other systems. No caps lock key. No F11/F12 keys. ChromeOS maps things so that you can use Alt+Super as caps lock. It also maps all 12 function keys to Super+{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,-,=}
still pretty cool confuseddood;
Quote from: Boogus Epirus Aurelius on April 21, 2015, 08:16:23 PM
Been considering one of these for a while now.
I've been looking for a cheap replacement for my crackbook for light document writing/editing away from home.
check it out - runs on C batteries. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Brother-Electric-typewriter-EP-43-/151648570100?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item234ef58af4
posting from my chromebook
it is basically lifechanging
ama
How dirty do you feel now?
0/10
Boyager card revoked
so which chromebook did you buy? doodella;
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Chromebook-CB3-111-C670-11-6-inch-16GB/dp/B00MMLV7VQ/ref=redir_mobile_desktop/183-6586440-0513445?ie=UTF8&vs=1
first impressions:
very fast and adequate for web browsing. handles 1080p60fps youtube easily. turns on when you open it up and boots up to whatever you were doing last within 5-10 seconds if you were in sleep mode
speakers are on the bottom left and right sides and when the CB is on a flat surface it produces pretty impressive sound. i have a porch that i do a lot of chillin' on and this will be great for music out there
is also built very solid. screen doesn't wiggle at all (and actually takes slightly more effort than id like to open it)
nice, CB does seem like a damn good deal baddood;
yeah i'd recommend it!
i think that chromebook + ballin desktop is the ultimate combination
snorkel get a google pixel for only $1k lol
https://store.google.com/product/chromebook_pixel_2015
imagine the day phones have 16gb of ram and just the sms app uses 12
Quote from: udderfailure on May 11, 2015, 02:17:07 PM
snorkel get a google pixel for only $1k lol
https://store.google.com/product/chromebook_pixel_2015
lol i don't understand it either. it looks like a developer unit (big and shitty) like Blu said
i was checkin dis and the one you got http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VQP3DNY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1Q6RRYLOEOIUK&coliid=I1W5RYYL5AKBKZ&psc=1
$160
does seem like a good deal for writing, editing, collecting chrome tabs baddood;
Quote from: infinite luxury on May 13, 2015, 04:32:28 PM
lol i don't understand it either. it looks like a developer unit (big and shitty) like Blu said
i was checkin dis and the one you got http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VQP3DNY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1Q6RRYLOEOIUK&coliid=I1W5RYYL5AKBKZ&psc=1
$160 does seem like a good deal for writing, editing, collecting chrome tabs baddood;
"big and shitty"? Chromebook Pixel is smaller and lighter than the 13-inch Macbook Pro. Although for most use-cases it's a shitty laptop choice for various reasons, it does at least compare favorably in price/specs to most ultrabooks and macbooks.
Those cheap laptops won't be any good for the kind of "collecting chrome tabs" you tend to demand. They only have 2GB RAM. Even with ChromeOS's much better handling of low-RAM than other OSes/distros, that's not enough RAM to leave a lot of tabs open without issues like tab crashes
Quote from: bluaki on May 14, 2015, 01:24:48 AM
Quote from: infinite luxury on May 13, 2015, 04:32:28 PM
lol i don't understand it either. it looks like a developer unit (big and shitty) like Blu said
i was checkin dis and the one you got http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VQP3DNY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1Q6RRYLOEOIUK&coliid=I1W5RYYL5AKBKZ&psc=1
$160 does seem like a good deal for writing, editing, collecting chrome tabs baddood;
"big and shitty"? Chromebook Pixel is smaller and lighter than the 13-inch Macbook Pro. Although for most use-cases it's a shitty laptop choice for various reasons, it does at least compare favorably in price/specs to most ultrabooks and macbooks.
Those cheap laptops won't be any good for the kind of "collecting chrome tabs" you tend to demand. They only have 2GB RAM. Even with ChromeOS's much better handling of low-RAM than other OSes/distros, that's not enough RAM to leave a lot of tabs open without issues like tab crashes
*slams table*
I will get a 4GB version
I will use the chrome extension The Great Suspender (that thing is great)
just for like, researching and what-have-you, you know maybe 20 tabs at a time. im off that 200 tab lifestyle.
yeah the one that i got is definitely a more budget chromebook
people on r/chromeos are real wet over the toshiba cb2:
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-CB35-B3340-13-3-Inch-Chromebook-Full-HD/dp/B00N99FXIS
i'm def interested to hear what kind of battery life you get from the one you got :o
it's good
at 26% (full brightness and 4 tabs) i have an hour and 30 minutes left. i've only had to change it a couple of times since i bought it. thing lasts significantly longer than my phone lol
two downsides of my model that i've noticed
you have to click way too hard on the touch pad to register a click. you can use gesture stuff which works great but there are some things i can't figure out with gestures such as highlighting or clicking and dragging (same thing really) so i have to click really hard and i feel like im gonna break the damn thing
also if i have like 6 tabs open and one of them is streaming audio there is choppiness in the audio which is kind of a bummer
is there tap click
Yes which is great and responsive but doesn't seem to work for the things I mentioned
oh it also charges to full ridiculously fast. i wanna say that it's like an hour for it to go from 20% to full but idk for sure- ill post the exact time the next time i charge it.
Quote from: udderfailure on May 15, 2015, 10:01:19 AM
i can't figure out with gestures such as highlighting or clicking and dragging (same thing really) so i have to click really hard and i feel like im gonna break the damn thing
you can use one finger to press the corner of the trackpad, as if you're pressing a trackpad button (which doesn't actually exist), while using another finger to drag
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hello give free chromebook plez
finally got around to getting crouton running
i really like it so far- mostly because now i have a reason to become more familiar with linux
doesn't seem to slow down regular chromeos and now i can torrent and use vlc for videos. good stuff
http://www.wsj.com/article_email/alphabets-google-to-fold-chrome-operating-system-into-android-1446151134-lMyQjAxMTA1NzIxOTAyMzk4Wj?alg=y
looks like android is about to become even more fractured~
and the ultra lightweight, hassle-free experience that defined chrome os will be a thing of the past once it's assimilated into lagdroid
well that is good from am app perspective- there are so few apps on chromeos
but yeah i am skeptical because i really like chromeos and android is great for a phone but IDK
hmm
[spoiler](http://[img]http://i.imgur.com/UA6j9qF.png)[/img][/spoiler]
omg chromebooks are so kewl
Quote from: antmaster5000 on November 01, 2015, 11:27:47 PM
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/UA6j9qF.png)[/spoiler]
omg chromebooks are so kewl
enjoy your total lack of video acceleration sillydood;
One of the main things I use crouton for is watching videos, which completely doesn't work with that mode. Similarly, you'll also need to use a fullscreen session if you want to play any games (of course, within the narrow confines of what is supported in Chromebook hardware on Linux). For other purposes, windowed-crouton might have noticeable lag and power consumption, but it's at least usable.
Quote from: David on October 30, 2015, 06:06:40 PM
http://www.wsj.com/article_email/alphabets-google-to-fold-chrome-operating-system-into-android-1446151134-lMyQjAxMTA1NzIxOTAyMzk4Wj?alg=y
looks like android is about to become even more fractured~
http://chrome.blogspot.com/2015/11/chrome-os-is-here-to-stay.html
QuoteOver the last few days, there’s been some confusion about the future of Chrome OS and Chromebooks based on speculation that Chrome OS will be folded into Android. While we’ve been working on ways to bring together the best of both operating systems, there's no plan to phase out Chrome OS.
Rather than ignore rumors as you'd normally expect companies to do, Google is outright denying them.
Yeah I tried watching anime on it last night and it was really bad
I do like being able to have it windowed for convenience and other tasks
Do you know how I can toggle the integration with the extension?
deleted my chroot and installed trusty instead of precise and DAMN it works so much better now
every game runs significantly better than it did in trusty and precise seems more solid overall. although i can't get chromium to work which is kind of annoying
Precise is ancient now. You probably should've been using Trusty for a couple years now.
It's kinda ridiculous that Precise is (last I checked) still the default target for crouton.
The next Ubuntu LTS, Xenial, is releasing next month. Precise is four years old.
The Crouton extension doesn't (unless this changed recently) support video acceleration, which practically means you can't use it to play any videos or most games. There's an "HEVC player" on the Chrome Web Store which can supposedly handle most kinds of videos the stock video player won't, but I've never had much luck with it.
How can you have any trouble running Chromium in Ubuntu? Just install it. Nothing but Flash and maybe a few video codecs should give you any trouble.
no idea- fresh off an install it didn't work at all. would install and when i'd boot it nothing happened.
but yeah i'm also not using the extension anymore. kind of annoying not being able to copy past from chromeos but it definitely makes for better performance
last night i was trying to install dependencies to get Undertale running and i somehow deleted my chroot
so i'm installing it again lol linux is so funny to me