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Title: sometimes i feel like i spend more time planning than doing things
Post by: snoorkel on March 13, 2014, 12:21:38 PM
is it all about the mental anticipation?

is the "heavy lifting" all in the head because tasks are really meaningless.

does there a purpose to planning .

many times even for a 15-minute work task for a client i will move it around on a couple different to-do lists for 2-3 days trying to figure out when, and in what order to do it with other stuff, before committing to a "schedule" and then going through the schedule.

it's my struggle to learn work discipline but also kinda OCD / ADD

itt where are you at in your life with feelings about planning and executing plans.
Title: Re: sometimes i feel like i spend more time planning than doing things
Post by: silvertone on March 13, 2014, 12:51:51 PM
Sometimes i think planning is just a really subtle form of procrastination, because planning something feels like you are completing a part of the Objective so you don't have to work on it when you immediately finish planning. Like, I play today i Work tomorrow.
Title: Re: sometimes i feel like i spend more time planning than doing things
Post by: snoorkel on March 13, 2014, 01:10:15 PM
Quote from: Red Zidone on March 13, 2014, 12:51:51 PM
Sometimes i think planning is just a really subtle form of procrastination, because planning something feels like you are completing a part of the Objective so you don't have to work on it when you immediately finish planning. Like, I play today i Work tomorrow.


yes this i what i meant lol.

how much better can a plan or preparation really get
Title: Re: sometimes i feel like i spend more time planning than doing things
Post by: ncba93ivyase on March 13, 2014, 01:17:54 PM
i'll spend days planning how i should start a homework assignment or project

i'll consider every possible way to approach it

then i'll start the day it's due and realize my "preparation" did jack shit and i would've been better just working

somehow i still can't bring myself to just sit down and do homework. i don't know why
Title: Re: sometimes i feel like i spend more time planning than doing things
Post by: silvertone on March 13, 2014, 01:30:12 PM
Quote from: infinite luxury on March 13, 2014, 01:10:15 PM
Quote from: Red Zidone on March 13, 2014, 12:51:51 PM
Sometimes i think planning is just a really subtle form of procrastination, because planning something feels like you are completing a part of the Objective so you don't have to work on it when you immediately finish planning. Like, I play today i Work tomorrow.


yes this i what i meant lol.

how much better can a plan or preparation really get
Odysseus spent ten years planning for the Trojan War, and then on the spot they made up the Trojan Horse. I guess preparing is just  a waste of time.
Title: Re: sometimes i feel like i spend more time planning than doing things
Post by: snoorkel on March 13, 2014, 01:40:18 PM
Quote from: Pancake Persona on March 13, 2014, 01:17:54 PM
i'll spend days planning how i should start a homework assignment or project

i'll consider every possible way to approach it

then i'll start the day it's due and realize my "preparation" did jack shit and i would've been better just working

somehow i still can't bring myself to just sit down and do homework. i don't know why

maybe the reward center of ur brain is a little screwed
Title: Re: sometimes i feel like i spend more time planning than doing things
Post by: strongbad on March 13, 2014, 01:41:38 PM
it's awful
before i do any sort of project i usually clean my entire apartment and make myself some nice food and a pot of tea
even then i usually find some other kind of distractions
and then i am up until 4am hating past david for fucking me over

this happens like every week
it is happening right now actually lol
Title: Re: sometimes i feel like i spend more time planning than doing things
Post by: ncba93ivyase on March 13, 2014, 01:53:14 PM
Quote from: udderfailure on March 13, 2014, 01:41:38 PM
it's awful
before i do any sort of project i usually clean my entire apartment and make myself some nice food and a pot of tea
even then i usually find some other kind of distractions
and then i am up until 4am hating past david for fucking me over

this happens like every week
it is happening right now actually lol
same 4 me

i'll sit down and get ready to work but then i'll think "well before i start i should make myself some dinner"

so dinner takes half an hour to make

then i sit down and i'm like "well i usually watch something while i'm eating and i don't want to try working while eating so why not"

two hours later "man i should start this homework. i'm feeling a little hungry though..."
Title: Re: sometimes i feel like i spend more time planning than doing things
Post by: snoorkel on March 13, 2014, 02:11:49 PM
replace making dinner with shooting up drugs

this is how life gets away from you
Title: Re: sometimes i feel like i spend more time planning than doing things
Post by: snoorkel on March 13, 2014, 02:12:42 PM
or, definitely,

maybe I should start working on this
*hey I should check boyah*
maybe I should start working on this
*hey I should check boyah*
maybe I should start working on this
*hey I should check boyah*
maybe I should start working on this
*hey I should check boyah*
maybe I should start working on this
*hey I should check boyah*
maybe I should start working on this
*hey I should check boyah*
maybe I should start working on this
*hey I should check boyah*
maybe I should start working on this
*hey I should check boyah*
maybe I should start working on this
*hey I should check boyah*
...
Title: Re: sometimes i feel like i spend more time planning than doing things
Post by: strongbad on March 13, 2014, 07:11:13 PM
Quote from: Pancake Persona on March 13, 2014, 01:53:14 PM
Quote from: udderfailure on March 13, 2014, 01:41:38 PM
it's awful
before i do any sort of project i usually clean my entire apartment and make myself some nice food and a pot of tea
even then i usually find some other kind of distractions
and then i am up until 4am hating past david for fucking me over

this happens like every week
it is happening right now actually lol
same 4 me

i'll sit down and get ready to work but then i'll think "well before i start i should make myself some dinner"

so dinner takes half an hour to make

then i sit down and i'm like "well i usually watch something while i'm eating and i don't want to try working while eating so why not"

two hours later "man i should start this homework. i'm feeling a little hungry though..."

lol exact same pattern
doing eating while i do homework just doesn't sound right
Title: Re: sometimes i feel like i spend more time planning than doing things
Post by: ?????? on March 13, 2014, 08:22:06 PM
Quote from: infinite luxury on March 13, 2014, 12:21:38 PM
is it all about the mental anticipation?

is the "heavy lifting" all in the head because tasks are really meaningless.

does there a purpose to planning .

many times even for a 15-minute work task for a client i will move it around on a couple different to-do lists for 2-3 days trying to figure out when, and in what order to do it with other stuff, before committing to a "schedule" and then going through the schedule.

it's my struggle to learn work discipline but also kinda OCD / ADD

itt where are you at in your life with feelings about planning and executing plans.
it was explained to me that one reason behind that (obsessive planning) is that planning is mostly an inward, controlled ability. it's practically fantasy, and that's something you can control. with enough calculated rationalizations and guesstimated precisions you'd form a sense of security out of reassurance (of your 'planning')

i don't plan for anything anymore nowadays unless needed
i just write things i want to do on a piece of paper and whenever bored look at it and pick the most favorable option
Title: Re: sometimes i feel like i spend more time planning than doing things
Post by: strongbad on March 13, 2014, 09:30:07 PM
Quote from: K L U X on March 13, 2014, 08:22:06 PM
Quote from: infinite luxury on March 13, 2014, 12:21:38 PM
is it all about the mental anticipation?

is the "heavy lifting" all in the head because tasks are really meaningless.

does there a purpose to planning .

many times even for a 15-minute work task for a client i will move it around on a couple different to-do lists for 2-3 days trying to figure out when, and in what order to do it with other stuff, before committing to a "schedule" and then going through the schedule.

it's my struggle to learn work discipline but also kinda OCD / ADD

itt where are you at in your life with feelings about planning and executing plans.
it was explained to me that one reason behind that (obsessive planning) is that planning is mostly an inward, controlled ability. it's practically fantasy, and that's something you can control. with enough calculated rationalizations and guesstimated precisions you'd form a sense of security out of reassurance (of your 'planning')

interesting
so do you think that planning is similar to mirror neurons in the sense that when you are planning something, you are activating part of your brain that would be stimulated while you were doing and completing the task at hand? like, planning is a way to derive satisfaction out of perusing and completion of a task without actually doing said task?
does this makes sense lol
Title: Re: sometimes i feel like i spend more time planning than doing things
Post by: snoorkel on March 14, 2014, 12:10:48 AM
Quote from: K L U X on March 13, 2014, 08:22:06 PM
Quote from: infinite luxury on March 13, 2014, 12:21:38 PM
is it all about the mental anticipation?

is the "heavy lifting" all in the head because tasks are really meaningless.

does there a purpose to planning .

many times even for a 15-minute work task for a client i will move it around on a couple different to-do lists for 2-3 days trying to figure out when, and in what order to do it with other stuff, before committing to a "schedule" and then going through the schedule.

it's my struggle to learn work discipline but also kinda OCD / ADD

itt where are you at in your life with feelings about planning and executing plans.
it was explained to me that one reason behind that (obsessive planning) is that planning is mostly an inward, controlled ability. it's practically fantasy, and that's something you can control. with enough calculated rationalizations and guesstimated precisions you'd form a sense of security out of reassurance (of your 'planning')

i don't plan for anything anymore nowadays unless needed
i just write things i want to do on a piece of paper and whenever bored look at it and pick the most favorable option


i could see that, though I was really thinking about work-focused settings. i go to work, but end up planning more than working. and then eh i am done working! :D

but ze other times i seee, it is really ze plannignt hat has the pay-offs.