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Title: Chromecast
Post by: bluaki on July 24, 2013, 02:25:29 PM
So Google's newly announced (and released) "chromecast" is a vastly superior and vastly cheaper successor to the canceled Nexus Q from last year:


Because of the Netflix credit, I didn't hesitate to order one. My family doesn't have many Netflix devices (especially when I leave for school and take all my game consoles), so this will probably be useful mainly for use with Netflix.

I bought mine from Amazon because they have them in stock, free shipping, and no sales tax, and it's also available from Google Play, Best Buy, and maybe some other retailers.

On a related note, in the same conference today, Google announced the new Nexus 7, Android 4.3, and Google Play Games (new game center app). I don't have much interest in tablets, Android 4.3 doesn't add anything useful to me, and I don't play smartphone games, so I don't really care about those announcements.
Title: Re: Chromecast
Post by: snoorkel on July 24, 2013, 02:42:27 PM
seems like it doesn't support a huge variety of content (yet), but for $35 and its convenient size (could travel with it and use it in hotels and stuff?) I'd buy it just to get Netflix on the tv befuddlement
Title: Re: Chromecast
Post by: bluaki on July 24, 2013, 02:53:44 PM
Quote from: lifetrneds on July 24, 2013, 02:42:27 PM
could travel with it and use it in hotels and stuff?
It seems designed for home use

and there's one major problem with that use case: it works by connecting to wifi, using LAN to control it, and downloading all content from the internet. Maybe it'd work fine with turning on Wi-Fi SoftAP/hotspot on another device like your phone, but otherwise you would have to hope your location offers sufficient wifi for this to work and I doubt it'll be able to get through the typical sign-in web pages that most hotels redirect you to upon connecting.
Title: Re: Chromecast
Post by: PLEASEHELP1991 on July 24, 2013, 03:01:44 PM
Quote from: bluaki on July 24, 2013, 02:53:44 PM
It seems designed for home use

and there's one major problem with that use case: it works by connecting to wifi, using LAN to control it, and downloading all content from the internet. Maybe it'd work fine with turning on Wi-Fi SoftAP/hotspot on another device like your phone, but otherwise you would have to hope your location offers sufficient wifi for this to work and I doubt it'll be able to get through the typical sign-in web pages that most hotels redirect you to upon connecting.
not to mention hdmi ports are usually locked down on hotel tvs
Title: Re: Chromecast
Post by: snoorkel on July 24, 2013, 03:38:02 PM
Quote from: bluaki on July 24, 2013, 02:53:44 PM
Maybe it'd work fine with turning on Wi-Fi SoftAP/hotspot on another device like your phone


that was sort of my idea, but it probably wouldn't be an economic use of data  n_u

Quote from: Alison Goldfrapp on July 24, 2013, 03:01:44 PM
not to mention hdmi ports are usually locked down on hotel tvs


i guess the hotels i go to don't have TVs with HDMI ports anyway
Title: Re: Chromecast
Post by: ME## on July 24, 2013, 06:55:15 PM
hm, if i watched tv more it'd probably be quite interesting.  i don't quite get the 'chrome' moniker for it though befuddlement
Title: Re: Chromecast
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on July 24, 2013, 09:30:27 PM
we got these in on todays truck at best buy.

i didnt know where they went so i put them wit hthe tv stuff i guess i was kind of right

also we got nexus tablets in now
Title: Re: Chromecast
Post by: bluaki on July 25, 2013, 02:56:37 AM
Quote from: David on July 24, 2013, 06:55:15 PM
hm, if i watched tv more it'd probably be quite interesting.  i don't quite get the 'chrome' moniker for it though befuddlement
Perhaps Google lets its engineers rather than marketing people pick product names, which would explain this.

On a technical level, the device runs a variant of ChromeOS.

Google apparently published documentation for a "Cast" protocol, as if they expect other hardware vendors to implement it in their own devices, making Chromecast the ChromeOS-based implementation of Cast. I wonder if they're going to at least merge these features with existing GoogleTV devices in a software update.

On a side note, one notable feature this device could have had but doesn't would be Miracast (wireless HDMI) support. Although Google seems to be trying to push Miracast via send support in Nexus 4 and the new Nexus 7, there aren't any affordable devices that receive it. I wouldn't be surprised if they make another version of this device later that adds this and maybe more.
Title: Re: Chromecast
Post by: bluaki on July 30, 2013, 03:06:39 PM
Because I chose Amazon's Free Super Saver Shipping, I just today got mine in the mail.

Some additional details:
Although Chromecast's sales pages and documentation explicitly say that Tab Cast only works on Windows, OS X, and Chromebook Pixel, it works perfectly fine for me on any Linux distribution like Ubuntu.

Even when using a device (like a desktop) that's connected to your router via Ethernet, as long as Cast is connected to the same router, you can successfully cast; Wi-Fi is not required on all devices, although Chromecast itself needs Wi-Fi. I would assume this also works with Ethernet-connected Android devices.

The Netflix promo ended only about a day after Chromecast was put up for sale because of the apparently immense demand. For purchases from Amazon, it took over 5 days (after the shipping confirmation) for purchasers to receive their promo code, which for me happened to also be today at about the same time I received my Chromecast in the mail.

Apps like Netflix scan the network for a Chromecast while starting up. If yours is not powered at the time you open the app, you must close and re-open the app to get a Cast button.

Chrome does support playing some local videos, so if you're really desperate to play local content you can cast a tab that's playing a video to the Chromecast. I believe Chrome has similar media support to PS3/etc in that there's no subtitle rendering and no mkv support.

According to the Internet, Chromecast is actually not based on ChromeOS, but rather is like a stripped-down Google TV (Android-based) with the Dalvik java runtime removed and replaced with the single native binary that runs the device's functionality. Additionally, Google claims that its current Google TV devices will receive an update later this year to support the Cast protocol, which means Google TV will be able to do everything Chromecast currently does and in the same way; there's no need to own both devices unless you plan to use them with different TVs.
Title: Re: Chromecast
Post by: Commander Fuckass on July 30, 2013, 03:12:20 PM
if i didnt have a roku 3 id totes buy this
Title: Re: Chromecast
Post by: Mobius135 on August 02, 2013, 10:14:58 PM
I bought one, really cool to stream and control from your phone/tablet.