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Title: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Ace on March 07, 2013, 09:42:19 PM
-Paramore is a legitimately good pop-punk band
-Godspeed You! Black Emperor's "Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven" is miles above "F#A#∞" in terms of composition
-George Carlin isn't actually very funny

Let's talk about opinions that would get you kicked out of a room immediately
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Mando Pandango on March 07, 2013, 09:44:15 PM
I actually agree on Carlin. He's still very worth listening to but I feel like laugh-out-loud comedy isn't what he did or what he went for.

Also

>pop-punk
>legitimately good

Pick one
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Mando Pandango on March 07, 2013, 09:44:50 PM
Ketchup sucks
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Mando Pandango on March 07, 2013, 09:45:07 PM
Metroid Prime 2 is the best of the trilogy
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Ace on March 07, 2013, 09:45:44 PM
Quote from: Sir Popsicle the Sesquipedalian on March 07, 2013, 09:44:50 PM
Ketchup sucks

Agreed, and I'll go one further by saying that mustard is terrible
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on March 07, 2013, 09:51:11 PM
i think women are stupid and the race wars are a ploy by the rich to keep the poor down
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Mando Pandango on March 07, 2013, 09:52:33 PM
Quote from: Ace on March 07, 2013, 09:45:44 PM
Agreed, and I'll go one further by saying that mustard is terrible
idk i don't mind mustard now and again

No YPRs allowed in this line of thought please stay out
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: ME## on March 07, 2013, 09:58:39 PM
all forms of fish is disgusting
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: 6M69I69B9 on March 07, 2013, 10:01:26 PM
most women are cunts
kitty pryde's "okay cupid" isn't a bad song
suicide should be legal
to be considered an "adult" should be 16


Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Travis on March 08, 2013, 12:15:33 AM
Quote from: Dovydas on March 07, 2013, 09:58:39 PM
all forms of fish is disgusting
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: bluaki on March 08, 2013, 12:20:27 AM
doodthing looks like a tooth
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Thyme on March 08, 2013, 04:42:54 AM
lol religion
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: PLEASEHELP1991 on March 08, 2013, 06:12:16 AM
final fantasy xiii is the best modern final fantasy game
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: silvertone on March 08, 2013, 06:48:18 AM
science is Mostly Boring,  the new mbv album is mediocre after a few listens and Hitler Was Right
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Nyerp on March 08, 2013, 07:11:35 AM
penis is great
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: YPrrrr on March 08, 2013, 07:15:43 AM
Quote from: Sir Popsicle the Sesquipedalian on March 07, 2013, 09:52:33 PM
idk i don't mind mustard now and again

No YPRs allowed in this line of thought please stay out
well you know what I would say anyway n_u

Alsooooo:
Abortion being framed as "a right" is ridiculous and the state does possess the ability to legislate one's body. I would definitely be kicked out of a room for saying that. Because I hate women or something
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Boogus Epirus Aurelius on March 08, 2013, 07:32:19 AM
What.
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Nyerp on March 08, 2013, 07:58:27 AM
god is great! LOL (love our lord)
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: 6M69I69B9 on March 08, 2013, 08:06:56 AM
Quote from: silvertone on March 08, 2013, 06:48:18 AM
science is Mostly Boring,  the new mbv album is mediocre after a few listens and Hitler Was Right

holocaust was fake
bassir;
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: PLEASEHELP1991 on March 08, 2013, 08:14:06 AM
LMAO (Laughing My Anatomy Off)
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: ncba93ivyase on March 08, 2013, 09:46:48 AM
Quote from: The Last MIB on March 07, 2013, 10:01:26 PM
suicide should be legal

whether or not it's illegal it's unenforcible goonish

it's generally just a tort, e.g. japan requiring families to pay subway cleanup costs

I think Pixar movies suck and Super Mario Galaxy was a bad subseries.
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: ?????? on March 08, 2013, 03:26:01 PM
i hate the residents and captain beefheart
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: silvertone on March 08, 2013, 03:27:40 PM
Quote from: Clucky on March 08, 2013, 03:26:01 PM
i hate captain beefheart


Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: 6M69I69B9 on March 08, 2013, 05:58:11 PM
Quote from: Pancake Persona on March 08, 2013, 09:46:48 AM
whether or not it's illegal it's unenforcible goonish

it's generally just a tort, e.g. japan requiring families to pay subway cleanup costs

I think Pixar movies suck and Super Mario Galaxy was a bad subseries.


w-well regardless i still would like it to be
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: don't let's on March 08, 2013, 06:02:20 PM
Quote from: Pancake Persona on March 08, 2013, 09:46:48 AM
whether or not it's illegal it's unenforcible goonish

it's generally just a tort, e.g. japan requiring families to pay subway cleanup costs

I think Pixar movies suck and Super Mario Galaxy was a bad subseries.
subseries?
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: ncba93ivyase on March 09, 2013, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: Far Beyond Repair on March 08, 2013, 06:02:20 PM
subseries?
mario's a series and galaxy is a series within it

i feel weird to call galaxy its own series since it exists within the universe and timeline of the other games
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on March 09, 2013, 03:38:14 PM
[spoiler]

turn-based gameplay is nothing more than a relic of an era in which real-time gameplay was technically demanding and as such it should have been done away with the instant gaming machines became powerful enough for that to no longer be an issue[/spoiler]

[spoiler]

that being said, i still plan on giving the best of the best turn-based games a chance, in time[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: ncba93ivyase on March 09, 2013, 04:25:14 PM
Quote from: HumuHumu...Tec on March 09, 2013, 03:38:14 PM
[spoiler]

turn-based gameplay is nothing more than a relic of an era in which real-time gameplay was technically demanding and as such it should have been done away with the instant gaming machines became powerful enough for that to no longer be an issue[/spoiler]

[spoiler]

that being said, i still plan on giving the best of the best turn-based games a chance, in time[/spoiler]
i prefer turn-based jrpgs over real-time jrpgs. they're relaxing games that are best enjoyed on the toilet

also, games that blend turn-based combat with real time are the worst. e.g., final fantasy series
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Samus Aran on March 09, 2013, 04:35:47 PM
i feel like tec's idea that turn-based gameplay is a "relic" isn't so much of a "controversial opinion" so much as it's just plain wrong lol

it wouldn't be kept around and so beloved if it truly were outdated or something

it's literally just a style of gameplay that happens to still be around
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Samus Aran on March 09, 2013, 04:37:57 PM
anyway uhhh let's see unpopular opinion uhhhh

i think mirror's edge was one of the best games this gen
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: ME## on March 09, 2013, 04:38:46 PM
one would imagine that tec would like to take as much time as possible to make all of his decisions in a game, so his hatred of turned-based combat is odd goowan
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Nyerp on March 09, 2013, 04:49:38 PM
arcade-style games are old and "outdated", no one should make them ever again

platformers are old and "outdated", no one should make them ever again
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: bluaki on March 09, 2013, 04:51:22 PM
video games are old and "outdated", no one should make them ever again
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: 6M69I69B9 on March 09, 2013, 05:04:38 PM
i like ff3 for the ds
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: ncba93ivyase on March 09, 2013, 07:55:38 PM
Quote from: Fuck on March 09, 2013, 04:49:38 PM
arcade-style games are old and "outdated", no one should make them ever again

platformers are old and "outdated", no one should make them ever again
fuck this one actually made me angry

i felt a tingle in my scalp
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: silvertone on March 09, 2013, 08:22:09 PM
Quote from: Pancake Persona on March 09, 2013, 07:55:38 PM
fuck this one actually made me angry

i felt a tingle in my scalp
that is how u know it is True
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: don't let's on March 09, 2013, 10:20:07 PM
Quote from: Pancake Persona on March 09, 2013, 03:24:26 PM
mario's a series and galaxy is a series within it

i feel weird to call galaxy its own series since it exists within the universe and timeline of the other games
oh, ok. I was thinking something different when I heard the word 
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: YPrrrr on March 09, 2013, 10:46:15 PM
Who can resist the allure of real time chess
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Thyme on March 10, 2013, 01:12:45 PM
Quote from: YPR Classic on March 09, 2013, 10:46:15 PM
Who can resist the allure of real time chess


are you quoting horse_ebooks
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: YPrrrr on March 10, 2013, 01:26:42 PM
Quote from: Thyme on March 10, 2013, 01:12:45 PM
are you quoting horse_ebooks
i do not know what that is confuseddood;
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: ME## on March 10, 2013, 01:33:42 PM
yprebooks.tumblr.com
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Ace on March 10, 2013, 07:16:13 PM
Quote from: YPR Classic on March 10, 2013, 01:26:42 PM
i do not know what that is confuseddood;


everything happens so much
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: YPrrrr on March 10, 2013, 10:34:57 PM
Whatever you crazy Internet people say  n_u
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: ME## on March 10, 2013, 10:36:26 PM
Quote from: YPR Classic on March 10, 2013, 10:34:57 PM
Whatever you crazy Internet people say  n_u
Is your saliva thick? Do people frequently
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Mando Pandango on March 10, 2013, 10:36:42 PM
Quote from: YPR Classic on March 10, 2013, 10:34:57 PM
Whatever you crazy Internet people say  n_u
As you might know, I am a full time Internet.
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on March 10, 2013, 10:49:55 PM
Quote from: YPR Classic on March 10, 2013, 10:34:57 PM
Whatever you crazy Internet people say  n_u


tomatoes; and the tomatoes;
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Thyme on March 11, 2013, 04:57:13 AM
Never go to bed ghouldood;
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Samus Aran on March 11, 2013, 11:36:35 AM
Unfortunately, as we all know, people
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: strongbad on March 11, 2013, 03:13:40 PM
the pressure that our society holds over the obligation to vote is stupid. in reality you're just trying to guess which candidate will be better based on what they've said and what they have done, which is hardly a good indicator of the future. voting is just guessing coupled with inherent bias. nobody can see both sides to anything (not saying that i am exempt from this), and if you don't want to participate in the broken system you shouldn't have to

the idea of "race" will and should be abolished, and people need to view the human race as one race instead of a bunch of different races in competition with eachother. i feel the same way about gender. while differences between sexes are much more tangible, instead of mostly made up (like that with races), i feel like you should just be an individual with a penis or an individual with a vagina, and then fuck whoever you want, instead of having to identify yourself as something and experience a shit ton of bias based on your identification

marketing is inherently unethical and should be entirely information based. this would give the consumers the best possible experience (because really, when you're trying to find out if a product is good or not do you ever look at the company's page for it? of course not) and encourage better products to be made instead of whatever appeals to idiots who have been brainwashed by fox news

copyrights on productivity based software (anything that can be used as a tool) should be abolished, everything should be open-source, and there should be a tax to support open source software. this would create an ultimately superior computing experience that is driven by quality instead of one-upping the competition and financial gain that brings down the consumer (i.e. drm)
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Mando Pandango on March 11, 2013, 03:15:31 PM
I agree with most of that except the voting thing.
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Hiro on March 11, 2013, 03:19:29 PM
how is trying to convince people to buy your product unethical
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Mando Pandango on March 11, 2013, 03:21:58 PM
I somewhat disagree with the race part too. The racial barriers that exist are certainly more concrete, in my eyes, than the ones that separate gender. Mostly because people of different races tend to be from different cultural backgrounds, so in that respect it's really just the culture instead of race, but there's a strong correlation to race that can't be ignored.
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: strongbad on March 11, 2013, 03:26:41 PM
Quote from: Snack Dad on March 11, 2013, 03:19:29 PM
how is trying to convince people to buy your product unethical

It's not unethical if you're only using factual data. Why do coke and pepsi need to sell a "lifestyle" when they sell their product? people being happy and bubbly and drinking coke. when in reality, you can get the exact same product for less money with a "fred meyer brand cola" or "safeway select cola" label on it. it baffles me that people buy the name brand.
that kind of marketing is a waste of time and money. people know what the product is. it's fucking cola. it's not a lifestyle.
using that kind of marketing for every product (which happens) brainwashes people. look at how successful beats headphones are. overpriced as shit. you can get better headphones for half the price, but people can't see through the marketing, and they want to fit into the "beats lifestyle" which is moronic

bill hicks has a pretty good bit about it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=awgipAZ8x5c#t=159s

Quote from: Sir Popsicle the Sesquipedalian on March 11, 2013, 03:15:31 PM
I agree with most of that except the voting thing.

why exactly?
I'm mostly talking out of my ass with that one, but I feel like it doesn't change a whole lot. It's be interesting to see some longitudinal data over expectations and realities for candidates across time.
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: silvertone on March 11, 2013, 03:28:07 PM
if u dont watch television and dl adblcok , you are pretty well off in terms of Evol Advertisements
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: strongbad on March 11, 2013, 03:29:46 PM
Quote from: Sir Popsicle the Sesquipedalian on March 11, 2013, 03:21:58 PM
I somewhat disagree with the race part too. The racial barriers that exist are certainly more concrete, in my eyes, than the ones that separate gender. Mostly because people of different races tend to be from different cultural backgrounds, so in that respect it's really just the culture instead of race, but there's a strong correlation to race that can't be ignored.

definitely, and i have nothing wrong with cultures. the problem with race is that people immediately identify one's race with the culture that is most fitting for their physical appearance. if you want to appreciate your culture, that's awesome. the problem that i have is that if you were 25% african american and 75% caucasian, and you were interested in your african roots more than your caucasian ones, people would think you were ridiculous. looking white and having vested interests in a culture that doesn't look fitting for you. i think that the word "race" should be abolished, since that implies differences beyond a cultural background (and the minor physical differences, which probably wont be around for a couple hundred more years anyway because of increased globalization).
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Nyerp on March 11, 2013, 03:31:09 PM
Quote from: Sir Popsicle the Sesquipedalian on March 11, 2013, 03:21:58 PM
I somewhat disagree with the race part too. The racial barriers that exist are certainly more concrete, in my eyes, than the ones that separate gender. Mostly because people of different races tend to be from different cultural backgrounds, so in that respect it's really just the culture instead of race, but there's a strong correlation to race that can't be ignored.


the word you're looking for is "ethnicity"
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: strongbad on March 11, 2013, 03:33:33 PM
Quote from: Fuck on March 11, 2013, 03:31:09 PM
the word you're looking for is "ethnicity"

which is a much better word.

also, it's idiotic that you need to check a box to identify your ethnicity whenever you're applying for something or filling something out. that just enforces the idea that our different ethnicities pull us apart from being of the same human race. 
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: ME## on March 11, 2013, 03:42:52 PM
Quote from: ilovesloths on March 11, 2013, 03:33:33 PM
which is a much better word.

also, it's idiotic that you need to check a box to identify your ethnicity whenever you're applying for something or filling something out. that just enforces the idea that our different ethnicities pull us apart from being of the same human race. 


even more extreme:  i don't think there should be any sort of personal identifying data [gender/ethnicity/etc] on applications.  just qualifications and how to contact the individual.
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: strongbad on March 11, 2013, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: Dovydas on March 11, 2013, 03:42:52 PM
even more extreme:  i don't think there should be any sort of personal identifying data [gender/ethnicity/etc] on applications.  just qualifications and how to contact the individual.

i agree completely
though once they get to the interview the interviewer's biases take over and fuck over black people and non-straights
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: silvertone on March 11, 2013, 03:54:32 PM
a heavy majority of the people would be better off if they didn't do drugs
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: strongbad on March 11, 2013, 04:02:52 PM
Quote from: silvertone on March 11, 2013, 03:54:32 PM
a heavy majority of the people would be better off if they didn't do drugs

i think it's quite the opposite
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: bluaki on March 11, 2013, 07:09:51 PM
Quote from: ilovesloths on March 11, 2013, 03:13:40 PM
copyrights on productivity based software (anything that can be used as a tool) should be abolished, everything should be open-source, and there should be a tax to support open source software. this would create an ultimately superior computing experience that is driven by quality instead of one-upping the competition and financial gain that brings down the consumer (i.e. drm)
Free software actually does rely on copyright; licenses like GNU GPL, MIT, BSD, and Apache are all based on copyright, although the license terms grant plenty of freedom while preserving credit. A lack of copyright is simply public domain.

Tax money effectively does fund proprietary software, particularly Microsoft's, because of its immense deployment in education, government offices, government services, etc., but some other governments (like I think France) have more funding directed at open-source software.
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: strongbad on March 11, 2013, 07:24:12 PM
Quote from: bluaki on March 11, 2013, 07:09:51 PM
Free software actually does rely on copyright; licenses like GNU GPL, MIT, BSD, and Apache are all based on copyright, although the license terms grant plenty of freedom while preserving credit. A lack of copyright is simply public domain.

Tax money effectively does fund proprietary software, particularly Microsoft's, because of its immense deployment in education, government offices, government services, etc., but some other governments (like I think France) have more funding directed at open-source software.

interesting, thanks for calling out my ignorance.
but the principle in my point still stands.
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: ncba93ivyase on March 11, 2013, 08:12:54 PM
Quote from: ilovesloths on March 11, 2013, 03:13:40 PM
copyrights on productivity based software (anything that can be used as a tool) should be abolished, everything should be open-source, and there should be a tax to support open source software. this would create an ultimately superior computing experience that is driven by quality instead of one-upping the competition and financial gain that brings down the consumer (i.e. drm)
this and algorithms/mathematical formulas and biological objects should not be patentable
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on March 11, 2013, 08:18:11 PM
mbv sounds dated as fuck
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Hiro on March 11, 2013, 08:42:04 PM
Quote from: N o t S i d on March 11, 2013, 08:18:11 PM
mbv sounds dated as fuck
it does sound old but i don't see how that's a bad thing or at all unexpected
the thing was made over the course of 20 years
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on March 11, 2013, 08:49:12 PM
Quote from: Snack Dad on March 11, 2013, 08:42:04 PM
it does sound old but i don't see how that's a bad thing or at all unexpected
the thing was made over the course of 20 years
its just kind of like what's the big deal there is nothing interesting going on in this album all his jokes were used on Loveless and to rehash what he's done is kind of ridiculous why did he spend twenty years bullshitting.

4/10
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Mando Pandango on March 11, 2013, 09:39:37 PM
Just because it was made 20 years after the last one doesn't mean it took 20 years to make.
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Samus Aran on March 11, 2013, 09:46:12 PM
the recording process was apparently half done in 1997 after the band broke up

i doubt it was touched very often in the 16 years following
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on March 11, 2013, 09:46:13 PM
Quote from: Sir Popsicle the Sesquipedalian on March 11, 2013, 09:39:37 PM
Just because it was made 20 years after the last one doesn't mean it took 20 years to make.
QuoteIn 2007, describing the imminent release of a new record, Shields said "It sounds like what we sounded likeâ€"different but not radically different" and revealed the album was composed from "[the] '96/'97 record half-finished record finished, and then a compilation of stuff we did before that in 1993â€"94, and a little bit of new stuff."[4]
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: strongbad on March 11, 2013, 09:46:34 PM
Quote from: Pancake Persona on March 11, 2013, 08:12:54 PM
this and algorithms/mathematical formulas and biological objects should not be patentable

definitely. our patent system is so broken
Title: Re: Controversial Opinions Thread
Post by: Samus Aran on March 11, 2013, 09:49:40 PM
Quote from: N o t S i d on March 11, 2013, 09:46:13 PM



right, so it's pretty obvious why it sounds "dated"

because it's literally mostly a record from 16+ years ago

bad jokes notwithstanding