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Title: So that's what that's for.
Post by: Boogus Epirus Aurelius on March 06, 2012, 06:24:01 PM
I'm putting together a little ditty involving Zechariah Chafee and first amendment theory and everything. Can't really stand the guy and his very black and white views.

But, I'm interested in trying to apply some of his theory to modern free speech examples.
There's the whole concept of "worthwhile" and "worthless" degrees of speech that warrant different levels of protection from the first amendment.

But, what are some examples of "worthless" speech or message? I automatically drift towards the baseless hate speech influences, but even Westboro's demonstrations should be protected under the first amendment, I think.
Can't have the good without the bad.

So, what actually constitutes something that should be "forbidden" or at least less deserving of constitution protection?

Title: Re: So that's what that's for.
Post by: ????? on March 06, 2012, 06:29:46 PM
I don't think walking around naked is protected speech.
Title: Re: So that's what that's for.
Post by: snoorkel on March 06, 2012, 06:33:58 PM
fake "Art" created with the sole intention of selling it to achieve objectively destructive ends, and where it overlaps with propagated verbal messages ex. Nicki Minaj
Title: Re: So that's what that's for.
Post by: ncba93ivyase on March 06, 2012, 07:25:45 PM
Fart noises.

Things done to cause panic, like screaming "HE HAS A GUN" in a crowded area.
Title: Re: So that's what that's for.
Post by: Socks on March 06, 2012, 08:44:16 PM
I'm coming to the realization that perhaps everything should be protected. For the life of me I cannot come up with a fool proof scenario.

Even cursing and nudity seem like legitimate freedoms to argue for.
Title: Re: So that's what that's for.
Post by: ????? on March 06, 2012, 09:09:53 PM
Quote from: Socks on March 06, 2012, 08:44:16 PM
I'm coming to the realization that perhaps everything should be protected. For the life of me I cannot come up with a fool proof scenario.

Even cursing and nudity seem like legitimate freedoms to argue for.


Same here.
Title: Re: So that's what that's for.
Post by: Socks on March 06, 2012, 09:32:40 PM
I also want freedom for the people of Syria. A massacre is underway there.
Title: Re: So that's what that's for.
Post by: ????? on March 06, 2012, 09:35:15 PM
We have so much in common, ohmigosh
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Post by: don't let's on March 06, 2012, 10:37:19 PM
I don't even know what's real anymore.