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Title: Internet's Influence on Grammar
Post by: silvertone on January 05, 2012, 07:24:44 PM
Is the emoticon placed before the period or after the period?
For Example: Is It
"Get that Jive away from here  madood;."



or

"Get that Jive Away from here.  madood;"



just something for you all, felt in particular, to think about.
Title: Re: Internet's Influence on Grammar
Post by: Andria on January 05, 2012, 07:25:27 PM
It's the internet who uses periods
Title: Re: Internet's Influence on Grammar
Post by: PLEASEHELP1991 on January 05, 2012, 07:26:24 PM
second option looks more natural as the emotion is already conveyed in that phrase. but it's really a matter of style and up to you
Title: Re: Internet's Influence on Grammar
Post by: don't let's on January 05, 2012, 07:26:35 PM
Boyah actually broke my habit of always using punctuation
Title: Re: Internet's Influence on Grammar
Post by: silvertone on January 05, 2012, 07:26:42 PM
Quote from: Twilight Echo on January 05, 2012, 07:25:27 PM
It's the internet who uses periods
truly curious...
Title: Re: Internet's Influence on Grammar
Post by: snoorkel on January 05, 2012, 07:26:56 PM
in the case of Doodthing, the proper placement would be outside of the punctuation as a standalone element, since His Doodthingness should not be placed in spaces of condescension to words and concepts of ordinary meaning. His emotion supersedes that conveyed by language

Title: Re: Internet's Influence on Grammar
Post by: silvertone on January 05, 2012, 07:28:02 PM
Quote from: Felt on January 05, 2012, 07:26:24 PM
second option looks more natural as the emotion is already conveyed in that phrase. but it's really a matter of style and up to you
Is this the Fall of Grammar Fascism? Freedom of the people to produce sentences anyway they want? This is barbarous anarchy!!
Title: Re: Internet's Influence on Grammar
Post by: silvertone on January 05, 2012, 07:29:45 PM
Quote from: vziard on January 05, 2012, 07:26:56 PM
in the case of Doodthing, the proper placement would be outside of the punctuation as a standalone element, since His Doodthingness should not be placed in spaces of condescension to words and concepts of ordinary meaning. His emotion supersedes that of language


I meant about emotion in general, but the specifications are appreciated.
Title: Re: Internet's Influence on Grammar
Post by: PLEASEHELP1991 on January 05, 2012, 07:31:48 PM
Quote from: Complicated Bridge on January 05, 2012, 07:28:02 PM
Is this the Fall of Grammar Fascism? Freedom of the people to produce sentences anyway they want? This is barbarous anarchy!!
essentially language is anarchy
Title: Re: Internet's Influence on Grammar
Post by: silvertone on January 05, 2012, 07:33:01 PM
Quote from: Felt on January 05, 2012, 07:31:48 PM
essentially language is anarchy
all societies are based on anarchy, but we have grown beyond demented and low-level thinking to create organized cultures. this includes grammar.
Title: Re: Internet's Influence on Grammar
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on January 05, 2012, 07:33:09 PM
I always used the emoticon as the period.
Title: Re: Internet's Influence on Grammar
Post by: bluaki on January 05, 2012, 07:34:01 PM
I've never seen people use emotes before punctuation and I don't think it fits well to do so. Sometimes the presence of an emote functions as replacing the punctuation, but if it doesn't, it should always follow the period.

Then again, I also disagree with the commonly-accepted and not entirely irrelevant practice of moving punctuation that belongs outside a set of quotes inside just before the closing quotation marks. confuseddood;
Title: Re: Internet's Influence on Grammar
Post by: snoorkel on January 05, 2012, 07:34:38 PM
Quote from: Complicated Bridge on January 05, 2012, 07:29:45 PM
I meant about emotion in general, but the specifications are appreciated.


i think, then, it is a question for the Aestheticist and not for the Linguist. it depends on the exact nature and graphickal character of the image.
Title: Re: Internet's Influence on Grammar
Post by: silvertone on January 05, 2012, 07:39:33 PM
Quote from: vziard on January 05, 2012, 07:34:38 PM
i think, then, it is a question for the Aestheticist and not for the Linguist. it depends on the exact nature and graphickal character of the image.

so it depends on the Person?

Quote from: bluaki on January 05, 2012, 07:34:01 PM
I've never seen people use emotes before punctuation and I don't think it fits well to do so. Sometimes the presence of an emote functions as replacing the punctuation, but if it doesn't, it should always follow the period.

Then again, I also disagree with the commonly-accepted and not entirely irrelevant practice of moving punctuation that belongs outside a set of quotes inside just before the closing quotation marks. confuseddood;
When the novelists get over themselves and start speaking like normal human beings, which in turn causes them to utilize emoticons, how will they place these quasi-images representing emotion that will fit within the American Standards of grammar? Is there no real law?
Title: Re: Internet's Influence on Grammar
Post by: PLEASEHELP1991 on January 05, 2012, 07:40:41 PM
modern novelists like jerom repudiate the beat generation