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General => Philosophy & Scholarly Debate => Topic started by: Selkie on November 24, 2009, 03:22:00 PM

Title: Punishment
Post by: Selkie on November 24, 2009, 03:22:00 PM
I understand that prison reform is something that needs to be done, because the prison industrial complex is an awful thing in general. And I also understand that capital punishment is not something that should not be condoned. And that most people who believe one of these things, also believes the other.

So my question is, what do we do to those people like John Allen Muhammad, who seem to have no true motive or drive, and also not necessarily and strict mental illness? What do we do to those people far beyond repair, but not worthy of the psych ward?

Title: Re: Punishment
Post by: ?????? on November 24, 2009, 03:28:30 PM
i would personally strip them away from their human rights and conduct psychological studies on them  akudood;
Title: Re: Punishment
Post by: Socks on November 24, 2009, 03:32:00 PM
Quote from: Freud and His Friend:Jung on November 24, 2009, 03:28:30 PM
i would personally strip them away from their human rights and conduct psychological studies on them  akudood;


psychedelics are delicious hocuspocus;
Title: Re: Punishment
Post by: hotlikesauce. on November 25, 2009, 09:24:09 AM
That's what Prison should be for.
Title: Re: Punishment
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 25, 2009, 09:25:28 AM
Quote from: Nathan on November 25, 2009, 09:24:09 AM
That's what Prison should be for.
wait what should prison be for

mentally ill people?
Title: Re: Punishment
Post by: hotlikesauce. on November 25, 2009, 09:30:00 AM
Quote from: Pancake Persona on November 25, 2009, 09:25:28 AM
wait what should prison be for

mentally ill people?


Criminals who aren't deserving of the death penalty, but are past the point of fixing without having any discernible mental disorder.
Title: Re: Punishment
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 25, 2009, 09:31:52 AM
Quote from: Nathan on November 25, 2009, 09:30:00 AM
Criminals who aren't deserving of the death penalty, but are past the point of fixing without having any discernible mental disorder.
so then what's deserving of the death penalty
Title: Re: Punishment
Post by: hotlikesauce. on November 25, 2009, 09:38:32 AM
Quote from: Pancake Persona on November 25, 2009, 09:31:52 AM
so then what's deserving of the death penalty


I suppose Murder or something.
Title: Re: Punishment
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 25, 2009, 09:39:23 AM
Quote from: Nathan on November 25, 2009, 09:38:32 AM
I suppose Murder or something.
Murder is justified when it's committed by the state?

And you guess?  goonish
Title: Re: Punishment
Post by: hotlikesauce. on November 25, 2009, 09:41:48 AM
Quote from: Pancake Persona on November 25, 2009, 09:39:23 AM
Murder is justified when it's committed by the state?

And you guess?  goonish


Hmm. Are you talking about Government "marginilizations"? That's not justified, but they're not going to punish themselves.

I guess, yeah. I don't know what else you should be put to death for. If you have any ideas feel free to add them.
Title: Re: Punishment
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 25, 2009, 09:43:14 AM
Quote from: Nathan on November 25, 2009, 09:41:48 AM
Hmm. Are you talking about Government "marginilizations"? That's not justified, but they're not going to punish themselves.

I guess, yeah. I don't know what else you should be put to death for. If you have any ideas feel free to add them.
i think never is a good place to start
Title: Re: Punishment
Post by: Socks on November 25, 2009, 02:20:14 PM
Quote from: Pancake Persona on November 25, 2009, 09:43:14 AM
i think never is a good place to start


life is overrated for the out of place and unstable
Title: Re: Punishment
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 25, 2009, 02:31:55 PM
Quote from: Socks on November 25, 2009, 02:20:14 PM
life is overrated for the out of place and unstable
crazy people are generally great artists
Title: Re: Punishment
Post by: Socks on November 25, 2009, 02:54:36 PM
Quote from: Pancake Persona on November 25, 2009, 02:31:55 PM
crazy people are generally great artists


crazy artists don't think they're any good
Title: Re: Punishment
Post by: ?????? on November 25, 2009, 02:55:50 PM
Quote from: Pancake Persona on November 25, 2009, 02:31:55 PM
crazy people are generally great artists
that only applies to crazy people with crazy emotions
a sociopath or jmv are not capable of art