Mine is probably Alexander Hamilton. He was a flawed man (as we all are), but his ideas of a strong federal government really saved the nation from a quick and sudden death.
On top of this, his economic policies, while controversial, revived the credit of the United States. Without that economic boost, the United States wouldn't have arisen to a much higher state than those of the other colonies in the Americas that liberated themselves. It's really amazing when you think of how many geniuses collaborated with each other to form our country.
The eloquent philosophies of freedom pressed forth by Jefferson
The pragmatic stiff economic policies of Hamilton
The diplomatic and political genius of an aging Benjamin Franklin
The hard work and efficiency of John Adams
The leadership of a weak and fledgling military by Washington
The written tales of reason and rights by Thomas Paine
It's really quite amazing bassir;
Quote from: Chﾃ...ﾂ行hﾃ...ﾂｫ on November 01, 2009, 07:58:07 AM
The diplomatic and political genius of an aging Benjamin Franklin
Franklin was a man of exploration, experience, and understanding. And yet the most licentious of the bunch, perhaps. Something to be admired.
Quote from: Chﾃ...ﾂ行hﾃ...ﾂｫ on November 01, 2009, 07:58:07 AM
It's really quite amazing bassir;
Yes it is.
I have admired Benjamin Franklin for a long time because he was amazing at everything. Recently, I realized that he, my dad, and I have the same neck-chin thing going on. I can only conclude that I descend from one of Ben Franklin's illegitimate children.
Quote from: Socks on November 02, 2009, 03:39:05 PM
Franklin was a man of exploration, experience, and understanding. And yet the most licentious of the bunch, perhaps. Something to be admired.
Yes it is.
The man couldn't keep it in his pants, that's for sure.
But I'd argue that he knew how to play the diplomatic game quite well. Especially with the French when he and John Adams were the American envoys to their nation during the Revolution.
Quote from: Stagger Lee on November 02, 2009, 11:36:09 PM
I have admired Benjamin Franklin for a long time because he was amazing at everything. Recently, I realized that he, my dad, and I have the same neck-chin thing going on. I can only conclude that I descend from one of Ben Franklin's illegitimate children.
this is what's known as a double chin 5thgrade;
By fucking far Thomas Jefferson. The greatest Libertarian who ever lived.
Washington (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7iVsdRbhnc&feature=related)
Quote from: Title on November 04, 2009, 01:52:14 PM
By fucking far Thomas Jefferson. The greatest Libertarian who ever lived.
See: Barry Goldwater
Quote from: JMV on November 04, 2009, 02:09:29 PM
Washington (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7iVsdRbhnc&feature=related)
i love that vidya
Gotta say Jefferson. he had so much foresight
Quote from: Selkie on November 05, 2009, 08:46:40 AM
Gotta say Jefferson. he had so much foresight
He pretty much predicted every economic issue that faces our country today.
Fuck Hamilton, go Jefferson.
I sided with Jefferson pretty quickly in the Hamilton/Jefferson debates.
Quote from: Socks on November 02, 2009, 03:39:05 PM
Franklin was a man of exploration, experience, and understanding. And yet the most licentious of the bunch, perhaps. Something to be admired.
If the "John Adams" miniseries is to be taken as a work seeped in research (which it is), and close reading of a lot of the stuff he got through and accomplished in a frightened Continental Congress, he clearly had a diplomatic genius to him in addition to being a total bad
ass.
Quote from: Alyssa the Glowing Sole on November 05, 2009, 10:10:07 AM
If the "John Adams" miniseries is to be taken as a work seeped in research (which it is), and close reading of a lot of the stuff he got through and accomplished in a frightened Continental Congress, he clearly had a diplomatic genius to him in addition to being a total badass.
But his diplomatic genius is a byproduct of him being a total bad ass. Apparently, Franklin was quite the favorite at remote underground Masonic parties in the countryside of England.
Quote from: Socks on November 05, 2009, 01:06:23 PM
But his diplomatic genius is a byproduct of him being a total bad ass. Apparently, Franklin was quite the favorite at remote underground Masonic parties in the countryside of England.
Apparently, Franklin was also the favorite of french whores. I'm agreeing with you, but saying that primarily, he was a damn good reader of people and culture.
apparently, ben franklin fucked a slutty bitch in london and now he's my greatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreat (idk) grandfather
yeah, i know, i'm awesome baddood;
jefferson is pretty awesome as well, but i also like hamilton. yeah, you can easily overlook him because he was pretty conservative, but he was great in every way jefferson wasn't.
not very fond of john adams, though saddood;
Quote from: Title on November 05, 2009, 09:45:52 AM
He pretty much predicted every economic issue that faces our country today.
He didn't foresee the negative repercussions that his embargo act would put on the national economy. Not to say that that takes away ll of his merit. Jefferson was an absolute genius.
But if you look at his presidency...his administration and him used economic policies similar to those that Hamilton pushed for in the Washington administration. For example, he allowed the Bank of the United States to remain in place.
Honest, I think that those who doubt Hamilton's abilities should read The Federalist Papers. In my opinion, he was just as much a genius as Jefferson was. It's amazing how history placed these two polar opposites next to each other in Washington's cabinet. Each bringing up their own good points and philosophies.
washington had a farm of marijuana so he my fave
Quote from: burzumfan420 on November 08, 2009, 07:17:38 AM
washington had a farm of marijuana so he my fave
Behind every good man there is a woman, and that woman was Martha Washington, man, and everyday George would come home, she would have a big fat bowl waiting for him, man, when he come in the door, man, she was a hip, hip, hip lady, man.
(http://images1.fanpop.com/images/photos/1600000/Slater-dazed-and-confused-1626436-200-200.jpg)
I'd have to say Thomas Jefferson. He stood for practically everything I believed in, politically speaking.
hamilton was homosexual
Jefferson was a goddamn man and showed it.
Quote from: Pancake Persona on November 25, 2009, 02:33:12 PM
hamilton was homosexual
Jefferson was a goddamn man and showed it.
hey you know what
fuck you and your biased partisan interpretation of history