Poll
Question:
If you could choose which of these three popular afterlife theories is correct, what would you like to be the afterlife?
Option 1: Going to heaven. Fuck yeah, paradise!
votes: 13
Option 2: Reincarnating. Fuck yeah, I wanna be a cow!
votes: 3
Option 3: Rotting in the ground. Fuck yeah, I want nothing to happen!
votes: 6
Basically, if you could choose nothingness, heaven, or reincarnation, what do you want to happen to you when you die?
Uhh.
Option 1: Eternal happiness.
Option 2: Return to the shithole.
Option 3: You can never think or do anything ever again.
Who would choose anything other than option 1? doodhuh;
Would the requirements for that system be adapted to your current belief?
Because I think Heaven would be pretty cook but there's no way I'm worshipping a big genocidal baby. akudood;
Quote from: RDX on August 15, 2009, 11:36:49 PM
Uhh.
Option 1: Eternal happiness.
Option 2: Return to the shithole.
Option 3: You can never think or do anything ever again.
Who would choose anything other than option 1? doodhuh;
I chose option 3 O_0
I am just not a fan of eternal life it sounds good to some people but sounds more like a pain to me. I wouldn't want to return over and over that would be basically the same thing. So I chose for nothing to happen.
Quote from: RDX on August 15, 2009, 11:36:49 PM
Uhh.
Option 1: Eternal happiness.
Option 2: Return to the shithole.
Option 3: You can never think or do anything ever again.
Who would choose anything other than option 1? doodhuh;
Think of it like this.
Option 1: Eternal Happiness or Eternal Damnation and torture.
Option 2: Return to the shithole until you have enough karma to reach nirvana (which is what most reincarnation systems have in a way or another).
Option 3: So it doesn't matter if you're good or bad. baddood;
Quote from: Khadafi on August 15, 2009, 11:37:31 PM
there's no way I'm worshipping a big genocidal baby. akudood;
oh god lmao
Quote from: Khadafi on August 15, 2009, 11:37:31 PM
Would the requirements for that system be adapted to your current belief?
Because I think Heaven would be pretty cook but there's no way I'm worshipping a big genocidal baby. akudood;
This, pretty much. Heaven as a mythical location in itself is pretty great, but I don't like the concept of restraining myself to do stuff I could enjoy in my life so I can get a good afterlife.
so imma be a big cheater and come up with my own option yay maps;
I want my conception of time to stop and live the rest of eternity in dreams. hocuspocus;
Quote from: Khadafi on August 15, 2009, 11:39:14 PM
Option 1: Eternal Happiness or Eternal Damnation and torture.
But he said "Paradise" akudood;
Quote from: RDX on August 15, 2009, 11:43:31 PM
But he said "Paradise" akudood;
i assumed that is what would happen if you were good so the inverse ofbeing bad would also be there.
baddood;
The only option available to me, number three. That moment when you realize this is your last thought must be pretty intense.
How about when you die, you go to the afterlife (only one, no heaven or hell) and then when you feel like it, you can get reincarnated. Or maybe when you die, your energy transfers to the earth and other life forms and you eventually become a new life form.
Why would anyone want to live forever? If entertainment here is based on making money, and heaven is perfect, people would have no drive to make money, so no more tv, internet, and other fun activities. Don't forget about all the babies who will stay babies forever, and the millions of people that will be there according to their religion. I mean, after a couple of decades(no time?) a guy would get pretty tired and bored really. And all of the things that make life exciting and a challenge, like paying off a debt or saving up for a car will be gone. There would be no meaning other then to talk with people.
akudood;
Uh yea heaven.
I consider heaven, being the religious concept it is, as a place that is total complete happiness. So if you WANT to eventually die, you can. Or even if it makes you happy to go to heaven for a while then be reincarnated, you can. It will still be a fake world, but identical to the real one so you couldn't tell the difference anyway (like the matrix :o)
SO yea, I don't think you can ever actually get bored in heaven.
Quote from: Selkie on August 16, 2009, 08:04:59 AM
Uh yea heaven.
I consider heaven, being the religious concept it is, as a place that is total complete happiness. So if you WANT to eventually die, you can. Or even if it makes you happy to go to heaven for a while then be reincarnated, you can. It will still be a fake world, but identical to the real one so you couldn't tell the difference anyway (like the matrix :o)
SO yea, I don't think you can ever actually get bored in heaven.
The thing about religion is, people who claim to have been to heaven or God told them to write this or not, have in some way benefited from the people who believe them. And look at priests, the priest from my old church(when I used to believe in a God) went to "help people find God" in Puerto Rico with the donations of rich people. akudood;
Which one would we want or what do we believe in?
I thought rationally. happydood;
I think reincarnation is the coolest.. only because I don't understand 'heaven'. It' probably because I've read The Stranger too many times.
Heaven would be a betetr option as long as I could customize it how I like it. >_> In other words, there would have to be no higher power, no God.
Otherwise, yeah, I choose reincarnation. I want t be a cat of some sort. Maybe a lion.
I can't really choose because option 1 would be like living inside Glenn Beck's brain for eternity, option 2 I would never want to live another life here, option 3 involves nothing.
heaven is eternal happiness and you never get bored. also you can have whatever you want so basically if you were like "what if i went back to earth and tried to be a little more successful" then you probably could.
what's not to like? i always thought atheists would want to believe in heaven because it's like an infinite orgasm akudood;
Quote from: RDX on August 16, 2009, 12:20:58 PM
heaven is eternal happiness and you never get bored. also you can have whatever you want so basically if you were like "what if i went back to earth and tried to be a little more successful" then you probably could.
what's not to like? i always thought atheists would want to believe in heaven because it's like an infinite orgasm akudood;
Yeah man, it's not like you know, they try to make something sound good and like make you listen to them and support them with like money. And like man, it's not like it's to the benefit of religion that we don't know what happens after we die, so like it's better to tell people things they want to hear so like they think they're happy.
srsly man akudood;
i just read my holy book though, i hardly ever listen to those supposed religious scholars. most of them are crooks anyway. akudood;
To be honest I'd rather just go poof into nothingness when I die rather than go be judged and then go to heaven or hell. Because if you just stop existing forever, at least you know that's going to happen and you can become ok with that. But if you have to live on for eternity, then, what is eternity? Is it fun? Do I want to be alive forever? I wanna die right now, why would I want to exist til the nonexistent end of time?
I don't see why, if you can choose as you can in this scenerio, you would turn down eternal happiness. Must be a rebel without a cause.
Quote from: YPR on August 18, 2009, 01:47:48 PM
I don't see why, if you can choose as you can in this scenerio, you would turn down eternal happiness. Must be a rebel without a cause.
Quote from: Sam on August 16, 2009, 10:56:28 AM
I don't understand 'heaven'.
Is heaven exactly how I want it to be?
Quote from: Sam on August 18, 2009, 08:06:03 PM
Is heaven exactly how I want it to be?
If you're guaranteed to be happy, does it matter?
reincarnation would be really fantastic if you could remember your past lives.
Quote from: Skylark on August 18, 2009, 08:11:15 PM
reincarnation would be really fantastic if you could remember your past lives.
reincarnation is fantastic. we cannot remember our past lives, but we can understand them
I...don't know.
In a way, I would like option one. Living in eternal bliss. But what exactly is "eternal happiness" in the first place? I mean, I'm an atheist so it's not like I believe in it. To me it's a fictional concept. Emotions are simply chemicals in our brain that change form depending on the exterior stimuli in our environment. At it's core, it's an adaption to our way of survival. I've always wondered though...what would heaven be like? Would it be like being high all the time? Not a care in the world, no work to do, you get joy out of just sitting on a couch and looking at the patterns of lines that run across the fabric. I don't know, it really confuses me honestly....
Reincarnation has also been something that's always puzzled me. In a way, we all reincarnate. Our matter doesn't simply vanish as we pass away, it becomes a part of another piece of the puzzle. It's our mind, our living consciousness that dies. But if you don't remember your past lives when you reincarnate, then how can you even claim that the consciousness that attaches itself to your new body is really the same consciousness of your last life? It wouldn't be. If you have no preexisting memories, and your past experiences have no factor in how you live your new life, then it wouldn't be you per say. I personally think that reincarnation is the most elegant and mystifying of all modern religions though. Especially when tied into the Hindu faith. Mostly because, in a way...it correlates with the way the universe really works; except instead of talking about the reincarnation of souls and people, you're talking about atoms and matter. Idk, what I'm saying probably sounds like bullshit because I'm not explaining it right, but it's really something to think about :(
And as far as the third option of non-existence goes, I think I may go with that. When chaos is emptied from the void, you're given...peace. Pure cosmos and order. Nothingness....
Quote from: Ch...sh...« on August 18, 2009, 08:33:47 PM
I...don't know.
In a way, I would like option one. Living in eternal bliss. But what exactly is "eternal happiness" in the first place? I mean, I'm an atheist so it's not like I believe in it. To me it's a fictional concept. Emotions are simply chemicals in our brain that change form depending on the exterior stimuli in our environment. At it's core, it's an adaption to our way of survival. I've always wondered though...what would heaven be like? Would it be like being high all the time? Not a care in the world, no work to do, you get joy out of just sitting on a couch and looking at the patterns of lines that run across the fabric. I don't know, it really confuses me honestly....
Reincarnation has also been something that's always puzzled me. In a way, we all reincarnate. Our matter doesn't simply vanish as we pass away, it becomes a part of another piece of the puzzle. It's our mind, our living consciousness that dies. But if you don't remember your past lives when you reincarnate, then how can you even claim that the consciousness that attaches itself to your new body is really the same consciousness of your last life? It wouldn't be. If you have no preexisting memories, and your past experiences have no factor in how you live your new life, then it wouldn't be you per say. I personally think that reincarnation is the most elegant and mystifying of all modern religions though. Especially when tied into the Hindu faith. Mostly because, in a way...it correlates with the way the universe really works; except instead of talking about the reincarnation of souls and people, you're talking about atoms and matter. Idk, what I'm saying probably sounds like bullshit because I'm not explaining it right, but it's really something to think about :(
And as far as the third option of non-existence goes, I think I may go with that. When chaos is emptied from the void, you're given...peace. Pure cosmos and order. Nothingness....
i think you've written more words overall than i've written overall and you have 46 posts
:(
Well it's a complicated issue and I had a lot of thoughts on the matter that I wanted to share : (
Quote from: Ch...sh...« on August 18, 2009, 08:49:25 PM
Well it's a complicated issue and I had a lot of thoughts on the matter that I wanted to share : (
it is not complicated, i can prove it with one fatal blow
Quote from: YPR on August 18, 2009, 08:08:36 PM
If you're guaranteed to be happy, does it matter?
ugh. There is so much wrong with the concept of heaven that I don't even know where to start.
for one, what makes one person happy obviously won't make everyone happy. So if everyone is promised eternal happiness in heaven, they must not all be experiencing the same heaven. So yes, it does matter. For instance, I don't want to live in any heaven where there's going to be a higher power. I do not like being ruled over.
second, in order to make this ideal happiness, we'd have to be set in a world that's made perfectly for each individual. But if there were in such a world.. that means we'd have BIG issues with who wants certain people to be in their world and certain people not in their world, and how some people's 'perfects' go against others'.
So then we come to the conclusion that in heaven one can't remember their past life. Everyone they met and everything they learned on Earth is forfeited and replaced with this ultimate happiness. In fact, none of the 'people' in heaven would be allowed to possess personalities because, aside from the fact that much of us is derived from our experiences, we wouldn't be able to have clashing personalities in heaven.
Which means in heaven we're all a bunch of meaningless, lifeless, lonely, happy blobs. Wow.
Screw it, I'd rather be a fucking cow and live life all over again. I don't care how shitty it is, at least it's interestng.
Quote from: Sam on August 18, 2009, 09:02:36 PM
I do not like being ruled over.
is that why you don't hold your breath underwater?
Quote from: Sam on August 18, 2009, 09:02:36 PM
Screw it, I'd rather be a fucking cow and live life all over again. I don't care how shitty it is, at least it's interestng.
im sure it will be when someone screws you
Quote from: Socks on August 18, 2009, 08:26:47 PM
reincarnation is fantastic. we cannot remember our past lives, but we can understand them
be my teacher
I believe in reincarnation.
Option A (if not referring to biblical heaven), and if it is then Option C. It's not like not really existing affects me in any way. hocuspocus;
Quote from: King Shishkebaboo on August 18, 2009, 09:27:07 PM
I believe in reincarnation.
the point is to disregard what you believe in and choose what you want.
Quote from: King Shishkebaboo on August 18, 2009, 09:37:03 PM
How so?
if we have an entirely gay population of anything other than bored scientists or asexual organisms, reincarnation would come to a screeching halt
ooh baby do you know what thats worth
you make heaven a place on earth
Quote from: Socks on August 18, 2009, 09:41:13 PM
if we have an entirely gay population of anything other than bored scientists or asexual organisms, reincarnation would come to a screeching halt
death -> new spirit
where does nonreproductive sexual interaction enter into that? Humans aren't the only souls.
Quote from: Alyssa the Glowing Sole on August 18, 2009, 09:50:39 PM
death -> new spirit
where does nonreproductive sexual interaction enter into that? Humans aren't the only souls.
psyduck; wtf make it stop
the concept of heaven is stupid
when we die we die
thats it
Quote from: Travis on August 18, 2009, 10:04:16 PM
the concept of heaven is stupid
when we die we die
thats it
do we do we know when we fly
when we when we know do we die
na na na na nana nana
Quote from: Alyssa the Glowing Sole on August 18, 2009, 10:12:47 PM
do we do we know when we fly
when we when we know do we die
sometimes yes, but sometimes the accident is sudden, like in the case of Challenger
Quote from: Socks on August 18, 2009, 10:16:14 PM
sometimes yes, but sometimes the accident is sudden, like in the case of Challenger
Dreaming, tonight.
Dreaming, alright!
Quote from: Socks on August 18, 2009, 10:25:56 PM
do you believe in those too?
Sweet berries ready for two ghosts are no different than you.
Ghosts are now waiting for you.
Are you...
Sweet berries ready for two ghosts are no different than you.
Ghosts are now waiting for you. Are you...
Well I never wanna die. But I guess if I have too then I want to go to heaven. Hopefully it's nice.
Whatever paradise is, I wouldn't mind experiencing it.