as the biggest s.o.a.d fan ever...who has never seen them live i hold my hands up to that but i would love to see them live...but they arn't together...now..who agrees theyr like the best band in the FUCKING UNIVERSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND SHOULD GET BACK TOGETHER sooner than later.........serj is a total legend daron is a freak which is why we love him their bassist..shavo is the coolist bass player ever and their drummer john inspires loads of rookie drummers out there...still and they arn't together...scars on broadway failed to make a impact...and serj's solo stuff really dosn't do it for me.
i am posting this as a topic because i want to talk to fellow s.o.a.d fans and lovers about their hiatus and how cool would it be if they did reform is it a good idea?
thanks for your time
Edmundo xx
Quote from: lfctwentytwo on August 10, 2009, 05:46:29 PM
shavo is the coolist bass player ever
bootsy collins begs to differ |:
idk soad is like my favorite band ever though they are like so talented they should get back together right now
They're not the best but yes they're awesome.
They should reform definitely.
SOAD is like Rage Against the Machine. They're both heavy metal groups who promote some kind of socialist revolution and pretend that they're fighting an evil American capitalist warmonger while they sell records for major labels. The key difference is that while I can ignore RATM's bullshit politics because their music is good, SOAD fails both categories. I am also very disappointed in their ethnic pride of Armenia, even though they grew up in California. But the main thing that pisses me off is hearing their shitty songs.
Quote from: coz on August 11, 2009, 08:23:30 AM
SOAD is like Rage Against the Machine. They're both heavy metal groups who promote some kind of socialist revolution and pretend that they're fighting an evil American capitalist warmonger while they sell records for major labels. The key difference is that while I can ignore RATM's bullshit politics because their music is good, SOAD fails both categories. I am also very disappointed in their ethnic pride of Armenia, even though they grew up in California. But the main thing that pisses me off is hearing their shitty songs.
Toxicity is a good album
I don't really like the other ones though.
Quote from: lfctwentytwo on August 10, 2009, 05:46:29 PM
shavo is the coolist bass player ever
where's the rage emote?
Seriously though I could name at least a dozen bassists who are more talented and play cooler bass lines.
System Of A Down sucks and always has.
i don't really have much listening experience with SOAD but i've heard a few songs and for some reason i can't help but enjoy "Chop Suey," but i still can't say i particularly give a shit about the band
Quote from: coz on August 11, 2009, 08:23:30 AM
They're both heavy metal groups who promote some kind of socialist revolution and pretend that they're fighting an evil American capitalist warmonger while they sell records for major labels.
lol selloutz
but more seriously:
The lyrics of System of A Down (debut) focus more around religion and cultural hierarchy, weaving it into mythology and sex, and just sort of living in strange demented ways. Reality vs. shitcrazy stuff play together. To some extent it's about people expanding and finding conflict with the larger forces (implied to abusive industrialism, cultural racism, religion especially, philosophy, etc.) . Besides references to being "canned," or "working class," (which both in context relate to shit crazy hallucinations). This all centers around P.L.U.C.K., and their beginning purpose, which was to talk about the Armenian Genocide, and encourage more truth and transparency in all these overbearing forces, and crazy things we do to combat them.
But there is no economic point to be found here. None.Toxicity does have the whole hollywood cover, which could either be a protest against industrialized art, or soulless entertainment. They get a lot more specific in their cricism: the prison-industrial complex / drug policy, the fucking police, scientific dogma, religion / denial complexes, the education complex, shitcrazy groupies, etc. The title track is about people doing drugs in a dead city. The death is partially a result of corporate control ("Beyond the staples center you can see america," from Deer Dance), but also from all the above things, and a lot of themes from their first album, swirling together.
There is no significant anti-corporate politics here, or even politics at all; they make portraits of all of the things which put pressure on our lives.Steal This Album automatically draws a reference to Steal This Book, which does the whole you vs. society and how to fuck it over, with a tinge of anti-commerce. But the lyrics aren't that clear. First song's about the munchies, second's about finding the true self, third's about feeling subservient to the political system, fourth's about, sixth (i'll get back to the fifth) is about weaponry / children's innocence, eighth (same for seventh) is about the fucking pigs again, ninth is about who the fuck knows what but seems to touch on violence a lot, tenth is about tv, eleventh seems to be about god in this society, twelfth about isolation and driving, thirteenth about war, fourteenth about the self again, fifteenth is about awareness and revolution (in a non-articulated, very general way of truth leading into a more personal society with a bit of irony strewn about), sixteenth about confusion and self, seventeenth about feeling lost. Yadda yadda yadda, big things crushing small things. Boom! and ADD both describe a change of priorities of the people, and the conflict of intrests with industrialism (possibly finding an outlet in the revolution described in Thetawaves), but what's the most important thing in Boom!? the truth, the core expression of the person, and in ADD? The American Dream, the whole work hard and prosper thing.
Their sense of paranoia is now more matured, and directed towards companies, and they declare revolutions; yet not only do they not declare some kind of economic revolution, they try to declare a social one, one of truth and of people being honest with other people and throwing all the crap away. The vessel doesn't matter, they just want to speak up for the ones fucked over.
Mesmerize and Hypnotize are more of the same.
tl;dr:
In the end, SOAD talks about the smallness of good natured people, the death of innocence, the psychedelic escapes like drugs and religion that we create, and the need for some sort of change from this seated madness. There are no politics here. No politics. Just truth.
So I think you're wrong ^_________________^