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Title: Educate me.
Post by: Det in F♯ Major on March 10, 2009, 03:46:45 PM
School of Rock highly interested me in beginning to listen to bands like Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin, etf. Smashing Pumpkins too, but something tells me they don't belong in the same sentence as those two. I'm kind of drawing a blank so if you think of any more suggestions, post them. ;)
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: YPrrrr on March 10, 2009, 03:50:02 PM
Smashing Pumpkins don't, and their singer has a horrible voice.

I'd suggest the Grateful Red to go with the other two, although I'm not the biggest fan of Zepplin
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Lozal on March 10, 2009, 09:38:00 PM
If you mean stuff more like Pink Floyd (progressive), try Emerson, Lake & Palmer and Yes.

Best stuff out there. :3
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Samus Aran on March 10, 2009, 09:56:13 PM
Quote from: Lozal. on March 10, 2009, 09:38:00 PM
If you mean stuff more like Pink Floyd (progressive), try Emerson, Lake & Palmer and Yes.

Best stuff out there. :3



Wrong.

King Crimson is better than both Yes and ELP, as is Genesis' progressive work.
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Geno on March 10, 2009, 09:59:54 PM
What why school of rock
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: thezerofire on March 11, 2009, 09:40:04 AM
you mean classic rock?
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Det in F♯ Major on March 11, 2009, 03:37:15 PM
Kaz suggest me more stuff, I trust you most in this area of expertise.
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Samus Aran on March 11, 2009, 05:33:15 PM
Quote from: Det in Fââ,,¢Â¯ on March 11, 2009, 03:37:15 PM
Kaz suggest me more stuff, I trust you most in this area of expertise.


Well, I'm not entirely sure what you want. There are some obligatory "great rock bands" that basically everyone should try, like The Beatles of course. But instead I'm going to suggest based on the genres of Led Zepp, Pink Floyd, and The Smashing Pumpkins, since those are the bands you mentioned.

First of all, if you like Led Zepp's typical stuff, which is hard blues rock, you may also want to check out Cream, Derek and the Dominos, The Black Keys, Taste (kind of hard to find), Humble Pie, and Rory Gallagher. Also related is Deep Purple, though less with the blues and more with the hard rock.

When it comes to bands similar to Pink Floyd, it's kind of hard to pick any that are all that close. Progressive rock is hugely variant in different sounds. Pink Floyd doesn't sound anything like Rush, but they're both progressive. Regardless, try King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, Jethro Tull, ELP, and Porcupine Tree.

As for the Smashing Pumpkins, you could list a lot of 90s alternative bands. To put things simply, try out Queens of the Stone Age, Audioslave, and some grunge stuff maybe like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Soundgarden.

Other random stuff you should definitely try:

The Who
Radiohead (progressive and alternative, in different stages)
Some indie bands, preferably Pinback to start with. They're very accessible.
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Det in F♯ Major on March 11, 2009, 06:34:58 PM
okay thanks
ill probably be browsing everyones last.fms for more stuff <3
(of which i am almost at 10,000; 9998 right now)
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Dullahan on March 11, 2009, 07:46:55 PM
Quote from: Lozal. on March 10, 2009, 09:38:00 PM
Yes
Correct.

Quote from: Kaz on March 11, 2009, 05:33:15 PM
Yes
Correct.
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: The artist formally known on March 11, 2009, 09:07:36 PM
Just listen to your local classic rock station, pick out artists you're found of and explore.
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Samus Aran on March 11, 2009, 09:13:11 PM
Quote from: reefer on March 11, 2009, 09:07:36 PM
Just listen to your local classic rock station, pick out artists you're found of and explore.


That's somewhat a good suggestion as well, at least to start with. I would also suggest abandoning radios shortly afterward though.
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: sans culottes on March 11, 2009, 10:41:03 PM
Quote from: reefer on March 11, 2009, 09:07:36 PM
Just listen to your local classic rock station, pick out artists you're found of and explore.

It can depend on the station. I listen to a lot of music that isn't classic rock, but the only radio stations I listen to are Dallas's two classic rock stations simply because I'll enjoy most of the music. One's great and they play all the great rock n' roll acts and then some, but the other will throw in awful music like Def Leppard. Still a great idea, though. It expands taste pretty well. Kaz said to abandon radios, but I disagree. When I need some music and don't wanna concern changing the song every second, I put on the aforementioned good station for this, and am doing it right now, but I suppose a classic rock station with a strong reverence of the blues and other roots is rare.

Additionally, I'd try pandora.com. I find it better than Last.FM for finding new music as you listen. I didn't really care about music much until I was around 13, when I decided the classic rock bands were pretty cool. I can thank Pandora for a shitload of my music.

It's hard to give a lot of specific suggestions to you. Kaz made a good point about prog. I love Pink Floyd and also enjoy Radiohead and Rush, but I'm not a big fan of most prog. I can listen to Pink Floyd play Echoes for 23 minutes and have a soundgasm, but go "w/e" to an elaborate Yes composition. Classic rock of the 70's is similar and different simultaneously, so specific suggestions can fail.
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: me003 on March 13, 2009, 04:01:37 AM
bitch get your booty back in the club.  baddood;
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Lozal on March 13, 2009, 07:51:06 PM
Quote from: Kaz on March 10, 2009, 09:56:13 PM
Wrong.

King Crimson is better than both Yes and ELP, as is Genesis' progressive work.
ELP>>>>>Yes>>>King Crimson>Genesis


At least in my opinion. :[
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Samus Aran on March 13, 2009, 09:08:12 PM
Quote from: Lozal. on March 13, 2009, 07:51:06 PM
ELP>>>>>Yes>>>King Crimson>Genesis


At least in my opinion. :[


you're weird :|
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Lozal on March 13, 2009, 10:51:27 PM
Quote from: Kaz on March 13, 2009, 09:08:12 PM
you're weird :|
I know.  :(

I'm just absolutely in love with ELP. They're my obsession as of right now. o_o
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Samus Aran on March 13, 2009, 10:59:07 PM
Quote from: Lozal. on March 13, 2009, 10:51:27 PM
I know.  :(

I'm just absolutely in love with ELP. They're my obsession as of right now. o_o


I've never been able to have much more than a slight interest in them. They're really not usually my kind of prog. I mean, they're not terrible like Kansas or something, but still. Yes is better than ELP if you ask me. Or at least Fragile is.
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Lozal on March 13, 2009, 11:09:02 PM
Quote from: Kaz on March 13, 2009, 10:59:07 PM
I've never been able to have much more than a slight interest in them. They're really not usually my kind of prog. I mean, they're not terrible like Kansas or something, but still. Yes is better than ELP if you ask me. Or at least Fragile is.
Ah, I see. They're just one of the bands in which I've had an enormous interest. It's different for everyone, I suppose.
Brain Salad Surgery, Tarkus, and Trilogy are incredible, in my book. Fragile is, as well.  :3

Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Samus Aran on March 13, 2009, 11:14:15 PM
Quote from: Lozal. on March 13, 2009, 11:09:02 PM
Ah, I see. They're just one of the bands in which I've had an enormous interest. It's different for everyone, I suppose.
Brain Salad Surgery, Tarkus, and Trilogy are incredible, in my book. Fragile is, as well.  :3




BSS is the only ELP album I've tried and it came off as "good" to me but not all that interesting. Fragile has "Cars and Brahms" and "Five Per Cent For Nothing" working against it, and some of the rest of the album sort of bores me a little bit. However, I can definitely admit that the first couple minutes of "Heart of the Sunrise" are pure prog greatness. "Roundabout" is of course a classic as well and "The Fish" is interesting, though maybe a bit lacking.
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Samus Aran on March 13, 2009, 11:15:10 PM
btw i also forgot to mention Jethro Tull, and they're better than both Yes and ELP as well baddood;
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Lozal on March 13, 2009, 11:22:20 PM
Quote from: Kaz on March 13, 2009, 11:14:15 PM
BSS is the only ELP album I've tried and it came off as "good" to me but not all that interesting. Fragile has "Cars and Brahms" and "Five Per Cent For Nothing" working against it, and some of the rest of the album sort of bores me a little bit. However, I can definitely admit that the first couple minutes of "Heart of the Sunrise" are pure prog greatness. "Roundabout" is of course a classic as well and "The Fish" is interesting, though maybe a bit lacking.
Hmm. Try giving Tarkus a try. You might like it; I don't know.

Yeah, those are the downsides of Fragile. I agree with you on your song selections. I also like "South Side Of The Sky".
Quote from: Kaz on March 13, 2009, 11:15:10 PM
btw i also forgot to mention Jethro Tull, and they're better than both Yes and ELP as well baddood;
I haven't listened to enough Jethro Tull to give a fair opinion about them.  saddood;

Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Samus Aran on March 13, 2009, 11:24:23 PM
Quote from: Lozal. on March 13, 2009, 11:22:20 PM
I haven't listened to enough Jethro Tull to give a fair opinion about them.  saddood;


Just get all of Aqualung to start, and if you like that, get Thick as a Brick.
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Lozal on March 13, 2009, 11:38:33 PM
Quote from: Kaz on March 13, 2009, 11:24:23 PM
Just get all of Aqualung to start, and if you like that, get Thick as a Brick.
Will do.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Houdini on March 14, 2009, 12:15:14 PM
Napalm Death
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Det in F♯ Major on March 17, 2009, 06:50:55 PM
well my dad has a looooooooot of stuff we mentioned in this thread

and has like five or six CDs of emerson, lake, and palmer, so they must be good then i guess  bassir;
and he has queen, journey, led zep, genesis, jethro tull (luls), the beatles, etc., so im happy about that. :]
i just have to make sure he doesn't notice im borrowing these or im dead meat. :X
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Samus Aran on March 17, 2009, 06:51:58 PM
Quote from: Det in Fââ,,¢Â¯ Major on March 17, 2009, 06:50:55 PM
jethro tull (luls)


why do you lul

they are amazing madood;
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Hiro on March 17, 2009, 09:29:05 PM
this feels.... weird.

I don't know why, but it does.
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Placebo Headwound on March 18, 2009, 01:36:04 AM
Quote from: Det in Fââ,,¢Â¯ Major on March 17, 2009, 06:50:55 PM
well my dad has a looooooooot of stuff we mentioned in this thread

and has like five or six CDs of emerson, lake, and palmer, so they must be good then i guess  bassir;
and he has queen, journey, led zep, genesis, jethro tull (luls), the beatles, etc., so im happy about that. :]
i just have to make sure he doesn't notice im borrowing these or im dead meat. :X
You can't just ask him if you can listen to them? doodhuh;
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Det in F♯ Major on March 18, 2009, 12:52:09 PM
Quote from: steal on March 17, 2009, 09:27:01 PM
if he doesn't have pink floyd he's a cock sucking faggot


no he does, i just forgot to put that down  giggle;
i imported 'meddle' and 'dark side of the moon' last night, and he has another CD of them too; its a live recording


Quote from: Placebo Headwound on March 18, 2009, 01:36:04 AM
You can't just ask him if you can listen to them? doodhuh;


oh god no, i have a hotblooded full italian father  akudood;
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Det in F♯ Major on March 18, 2009, 03:14:51 PM
Quote from: steal on March 18, 2009, 02:00:15 PM
ok cool thumbup;


are those good CDs or is there anything else...?

Same for all bands in this topic, everyone.
Like what CDs should I get for Led Zep, Rush, the Beatles, etc.
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Samus Aran on March 18, 2009, 03:25:23 PM
Quote from: Det in Fââ,,¢Â¯ Major on March 18, 2009, 03:14:51 PM
are those good CDs or is there anything else...?

Same for all bands in this topic, everyone.
Like what CDs should I get for Led Zep, Rush, the Beatles, etc.


For Led Zepp, start with either their debut album or the unnamed album (I call it Led Zeppelin IV). One is the quintessential blues rock album for them, and the other is the quintessential "Stairway to Heaven" of course.

For The Beatles, it depends on if you're more into their early, simple love pop stuff or their later, more expansive material that includes songs that are actually about things other than girls. You know, submarines and walruses and Jude and norwegian woods and strawberry fields and such. I much prefer their later material, and the best place to start with that is of course Sgt. Pepper, since it's kinda the huge album for them in that time...but also essential are Revolver and Abbey Road. The White Album and Rubber Soul as well but to a lesser extent.

For Rush, start with Moving Pictures. Simple as that. If you like it, try any of their other stuff in pretty much any order, because it's hard to really pick anything other than Moving Pictures as a starting point.
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Det in F♯ Major on March 18, 2009, 03:42:58 PM
okay so i have a huge stack of CDs here i got from one of his racks:

(ps, he has a lot of 'best of', 'greatest hits' CDs :/)

AC/DC: Who Made Who (everyone says they suck, but i want to see for myself)
Black Sabbath: We Sold Our Soul for Rock 'n' Roll
Black Sabbath: Heaven and Hell
Black Sabbath: Reunion
Blondie: The Best of Blondie
Deep Purple: Machine Head
Deep Purple: Who Do We Think We Are!
The Best of Earth, Wind & Fire: Volumes I and II
Genesis: Invisible Touch
Genesis: Turn It On Again - The Hits
Jethro Tull: Thick as a Brick
Jethro Tull: Original Masters
Led Zeppelin: Early Days
Led Zeppelin: Latter Days
Phil Collins: Hits
Rush: A Show of Hands
The Who: Who's Next
The Who: My Generation - The Very Best of the Who
Yes: Close to the Edge
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Samus Aran on March 18, 2009, 04:21:35 PM
well it's a good start nonetheless, except for him only having Show of Hands for Rush

Thick as a Brick also isn't a good starting point for Jethro Tull because the whole album is one song and you might not like it much if you haven't already enjoyed Aqualung

also wtf at not having Paranoid for Black Sabbath and also i don't really think AC/DC sucks but they're not all that great, just so-so
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Det in F♯ Major on March 18, 2009, 04:48:54 PM
Quote from: Kaz on March 18, 2009, 04:21:35 PM
well it's a good start nonetheless, except for him only having Show of Hands for Rush

Thick as a Brick also isn't a good starting point for Jethro Tull because the whole album is one song and you might not like it much if you haven't already enjoyed Aqualung

also wtf at not having Paranoid for Black Sabbath and also i don't really think AC/DC sucks but they're not all that great, just so-so


he might have those in another rack, i just didn't want to take too many CDs out at a time and then forget where they went

oh, not to mention since he grew up when all these bands were coming about, he has the vinyls for them and he listens to them on a record player :)
so he probably has all the good stuff on records
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Det in F♯ Major on March 18, 2009, 06:48:34 PM
okay so i found pink floyd - pulse (live), rush - chronicles, yes - yessongs, keys to ascension, and fragile
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Hiro on March 19, 2009, 02:56:44 PM
Rush is my dad's favorite band  n_u
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: sans culottes on March 20, 2009, 09:27:41 AM
If you listen to Who Made Who, you're going to think AC/DC sucks. Go with their 70's albums, I'd start with Highway To Hell. Anyone who seriously thinks early AC/DC sucks is either an asswipe or a dull person.
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Lozal on March 21, 2009, 08:26:38 PM
I love Yes. Fragile kicks ass.

Get out Tarkus and Brain Salad Surgery by ELP.
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: Samus Aran on March 21, 2009, 11:31:34 PM
Quote from: coz on March 20, 2009, 09:27:41 AM
If you listen to Who Made Who, you're going to think AC/DC sucks. Go with their 70's albums, I'd start with Highway To Hell. Anyone who seriously thinks early AC/DC sucks is either an asswipe or a dull person.


I hope when you say their 70s albums you're making an exception for 1980's Back in Black, considering that it's pretty much just as good as Highway to Hell.
Title: Re: Educate me.
Post by: sans culottes on March 23, 2009, 05:59:50 AM
Quote from: Kaz on March 21, 2009, 11:31:34 PM
I hope when you say their 70s albums you're making an exception for 1980's Back in Black, considering that it's pretty much just as good as Highway to Hell.

Oh yeah, Back in Black is good, I forgot to mention that. But everything after it was really mediocre.